olumz1:


They are in pristine condition, sometimes it's costlier to dispose off during renovation work so they give them away free.

Oh ok I see you mean used doors .

bereiweris:
pls House i need ur help planning on moulding blocks during 2nd week of may bt people are advising me not to cause of the rains in port harcourt bt i reali want to mould den so i dont gulp up the little money ve saved. please how do i go about moulding during this said period. ur advice wud b very much appreciated. Tnx

What's the size you moulding ?

6" hollow & some 6"solid tnx

erico2k2:

What's the size you moulding ?

bereiweris:
6" hollow & some 6"solid tnx

Well if you wanna mould get in with it b4 the rains.buy waterproof to cover the fresh moulded block in case it rains b4 it gets dry . I did same in PH . But if you ha e a trusted supplier then you can buy already made . Saves you packing and arranging fees .

EgunMogaji:


That's one of the things that drew me to my floorplan.

I can hide my panels easily from prying eyes, and I can frolick outside while still being inside.

Shout out to me Architect, Darenyx @ https://www.nairaland.com/darenyx, I recommend him without any hesitation.

I know Oga KolaShangOne doesn't favor black roof but it helps blend in solar electric panels and solar water heaters. There really is a method to EgunMogajis madness

truly this is your roof design?
That conviniently hides the panels

rabcnesbit:


Hi. Thanks for your reply. Blocking up the 4 window spaces though should not cost more than 10k I reckon, so still saving myself about 40k. My question really is that is a window actually necessary for a small store in a flat?

You'll have to look at it in totality. That window may have a purpose there for perhaps cross flows.

I don't have a window in my pantry but that was designed that way from the beginning.

rabcnesbit:


Okay, on a different topic. I have got to the stage of installing windows to my building. The number of windows is 56!!! As I am planning on going for casement windows with inbuilt burglary proof and mosquito netting/screen, this will cost me a few bob! So I am looking at reducing the number of windows. The draughtsman that drew the plan for me drew windows for the small stores (one store per flat; block of 4 flats), so that's 4 store windows I could potentially get rid off, as I do not see the reason for a window in a small store in a flat? Or an I wrong, is it definitely needed?

It is not energy efficient to have to turn on the light every time you want to access the store
a properly placed window allows for natural lighting.

EgunMogaji:


You'll have to look at it in totality. That window may have a purpose there for perhaps cross flows.

I don't have a window in my pantry but that was designed that way from the beginning.

Okay, thanks. I suppose I might just have to leave it as per the plan and bear the cost

On a different note. Somebody mentioned to me that burglary proof/bars done separately is better and more durable that the ones incorporated in the window. What are your opinions guys? All-in-one casement window (window+burglary bars) or installing burglary bars separately? Thanks

erico2k2:

Well if you wanna mould get in with it b4 the rains.buy waterproof to cover the fresh moulded block in case it rains b4 it gets dry . I did same in PH . But if you ha e a trusted supplier then you can buy already made . Saves you packing and arranging fees .

tnx for the advice. i reali appreciate

rabcnesbit:


Okay, thanks. I suppose I might just have to leave it as per the plan and bear the cost

On a different note. Somebody mentioned to me that burglary proof/bars done separately is better and more durable that the ones incorporated in the window. What are your opinions guys? All-in-one casement window (window+burglary bars) or installing burglary bars separately? Thanks

I looked at all the pros and cons and I decided against the built in burglaries.

1) It looks too Kirikiriish to me.
2) It's final, you can't decide to remove burglary in the future.
3) You don't have opportunity to have a bespoke design, they're all the same. Well, I don't play well in the same box with others, mostly

So it's down to personal preference.

EgunMogaji:


I looked at all the pros and cons and I decided against the built in burglaries.

1) It looks too Kirikiriish to me.
2) It's final, you can't decide to remove burglary in the future.
3) You don't have opportunity to have a bespoke design, they're all the same. Well, I don't play well in the same box with others, mostly

So it's down to personal preference.

Kirikiriish - will recommend to Oxford.

rabcnesbit:


Okay, thanks. I suppose I might just have to leave it as per the plan and bear the cost

On a different note. Somebody mentioned to me that burglary proof/bars done separately is better and more durable that the ones incorporated in the window. What are your opinions guys? All-in-one casement window (window+burglary bars) or installing burglary bars separately? Thanks

All in one casement windows can be 30 percent cheaper or more and will serve the same purpose security wise. This cost saving is not to be snift at.

Aesthetically, to me it's​ aslo more appealing as the colour of the bar blends with the colour of the casement. An integrated whole.

The protrusion of the burglary bar if done separately will pose a slight design and aesthetics challenge with the pop finish especially if one did two courses after lintel. The upper level of the window wall is not flushed to showcase the beauty of the pop. The burglary proof can be an aesthetic disruption.

Again if burglary proof is done separately, one precludes the use of the lower level of the window especially in the kitchen and bathroom. So one may struggle to store stuff like washing up liquid, soap, containers by the window.

All in one casement window is quicker to install with better results to my reckoning. But that's just me.

Empiree:
truly this is your roof design?
That conviniently hides the panels

Yes it's my ongoing build.

There's a 500 square feet central courtyard.

Fear just dey catch me for the roofing estimates I've been getting

EgunMogaji:


Yes it's my ongoing build.

There's a 500 square feet central courtyard.

Fear just dey catch me for the roofing estimates I've been getting

Brother, no be only you fear dey catch. Just when i set my eyes on your structure my heart starts to beat faster than federal express

Looks like palace. Did you have the idea of installing solar panels before you came up with this structure?. I have no idea where solar panels could seat out of view on mine. I have roofed mine before i got the idea of solar system. You have the chance but i de fear the cost for you man. You seem to be taking your time with your project.

diordaves:


All in one casement windows can be 30 percent cheaper or more and will serve the same purpose security wise. This cost saving is not to be snift at.

Aesthetically, to me it's​ aslo more appealing as the colour of the bar blends with the colour of the casement. An integrated whole.

The protrusion of the burglary bar if done separately will pose a slight design and aesthetics challenge with the pop finish especially if one did two courses after lintel. The upper level of the window wall is not flushed to showcase the beauty of the pop. The burglary proof can be an aesthetic disruption.

Again if burglary proof is done separately, one precludes the use of the lower level of the window especially in the kitchen and bathroom. So one may struggle to store stuff like washing up liquid, soap, containers by the window.

All in one casement window is quicker to install with better results to my reckoning. But that's just me.

Okay, thanks for the advice. What do you think about the fly screen/mosquito net?

rabcnesbit:


Okay, on a different topic. I have got to the stage of installing windows to my building. The number of windows is 56!!! As I am planning on going for casement windows with inbuilt burglary proof and mosquito netting/screen, this will cost me a few bob! So I am looking at reducing the number of windows. The draughtsman that drew the plan for me drew windows for the small stores (one store per flat; block of 4 flats), so that's 4 store windows I could potentially get rid off, as I do not see the reason for a window in a small store in a flat? Or an I wrong, is it definitely needed?

. The foremost aim of putting up window(s) in any structure is for proper ventilation and also sun rays(natural light) into the building. Window in a store is most probably for sun rays(natural light) into that particular area and as long as you don't intend putting fridge/freezers there as well. I reckon you can mount glass blocks in that position to cut cost. I guess the store will go with tiles already.

rabcnesbit:


Okay, thanks for the advice. What do you think about the fly screen/mosquito net?

Nothing to worry about, net included. The net is installed in a sliding format. So to access the handle of the window, you slide the net to one side, open the window and slide the net back into place.

Do you know where they sell this kind of embedded window with the net in the east? Onitsha?

diordaves:


Nothing to worry about, net included. The net is installed in a sliding format. So to access the handle of the window, you slide the net to one side, open the window and slide the net back into place.

Empiree:
Brother, no be only you fear dey catch. Just when i set my eyes on your structure my heart starts to beat faster than federal express

Looks like palace. Did you have the idea of installing solar panels before you came up with this structure?. I have no idea where solar panels could seat out of view on mine. I have roofed mine before i got the idea of solar system. You have the chance but i de fear the cost for you man. You seem to be taking your time with your project.

My design from the beginning is Mediterranean structure due to the weather in Nigeria.

There were four things on my mind.

1) Passive cooling - a giant hole in the middle of the structure guarantees air flow without active cooling.

2) Privacy - with the internal courtyard I can entertain to my delight in private. It's also zone into private, semi private and public areas on the inside.

3) Security - it is my opinion that this is a very safe design and it even has a safe room.

4) Single Level - thinking ahead to old age, it had to be a bungalow.

From the onset I had solar on my mind.

I'm not in any particular hurry to finish the house though I need to seal it sooner than later. I still have another 15 years in the US.

The apartment garage is completed but needs pain painting so I have a place to rest my bones for now and the gateman house is almost done.

No hurry, I'm good with laying one block per year

Memejem:
Do you know where they sell this kind of embedded window with the net in the east? Onitsha?

I'm not familiar with Onitsha but a good aluminium workman can deliver a decent job. They are normally custom designed, you can't buy casement windows off the shelf.

EgunMogaji:


I looked at all the pros and cons and I decided against the built in burglaries.

1) It looks too Kirikiriish to me.
2) It's final, you can't decide to remove burglary in the future.
3) You don't have opportunity to have a bespoke design, they're all the same. Well, I don't play well in the same box with others, mostly

So it's down to personal preference.

there are robbers on nl, maybe even on this thread. if you're going to insist on no burglar proofing [very very dangerous choice imho], then you need to ensure all the doors are steel doors in steel frames, so that if you have a second level pentration [first level is fence], the robbers cannot get beyond the room they entered. you will have to do blockwork to the roof otherwise they will navigate via ceiling.

safe room will not do much good if they get to you first. the goal of burglar proofing is to slow robbers down.

if you hate burglar proofing that much and you have enough cash you can go for window lamination [bulletproofing]

note that it is sometimes your artisans who will sicc robbers onto you as you move into your house

EgunMogaji:


My design from the beginning is Mediterranean structure due to the weather in Nigeria.

There were four things on my mind.

1) Passive cooling - a giant hole in the middle of the structure guarantees air flow without active cooling.

2) Privacy - with the internal courtyard I can entertain to my delight in private. It's also zone into private, semi private and public areas on the inside.

3) Security - it is my opinion that this is a very safe design and it even has a safe room.

4) Single Level - thinking ahead to old age, it had to be a bungalow.

From the onset I had solar on my mind.

I'm not in any particular hurry to finish the house though I need to seal it sooner than later. I still have another 15 years in the US.

The apartment garage is completed but needs pain painting so I have a place to rest my bones for now and the gateman house is almost done.

You really planned ahead. That's great. I want to believe your land is wide to accommodate this structure. God bless your hustle. Seems you gonna enjoy your old age in that crib you called courtyard. 15years is pretty enough to save towards whatever you want.

No hurry, I'm good with laying one block per year

Lol, you are known for your kobo kobo snail moving project

rabcnesbit:

Okay, thanks. I suppose I might just have to leave it as per the plan and bear the cost

On a different note. Somebody mentioned to me that burglary proof/bars done separately is better and more durable that the ones incorporated in the window. What are your opinions guys? All-in-one casement window (window+burglary bars) or installing burglary bars separately? Thanks

Not true.. if good iron is used for your burglary they will all be of the same strength. Look mine below.
Also read @Diordaves post above... he already sum it up... reason why I had mine installed inside the windows..

Hajji M.

mufutau55:


Not true.. if good iron is used for your burglary they will all be of the same strength. Look mine below.
Also read @Diordaves post below... he already sum it up... reason why I had mine installed inside the windows..

Hajji M.

is that solid steel or hollow pipe
if hollow, what thickness are the pipes?

robbers came to our house when i was in university.[this was 1997,1998] . we had burglar proofing. they broke through it in 45 minutes. the burglar proofing was simply decorative hollow pipes. take a hammer [the type used for breaking concrete] or a bolt cutter to one of the samples to determine just how tough it actually is.


dont wait for that day to find out if your protection is up to scratch

oyb:


there are robbers on nl, maybe even on this thread. if you're going to insist on no burglar proofing [very very dangerous choice imho], then you need to ensure all the doors are steel doors in steel frames, so that if you have a second level pentration [first level is fence], the robbers cannot get beyond the room they entered. you will have to do blockwork to the roof otherwise they will navigate via ceiling.

safe room will not do much good if they get to you first. the goal of burglar proofing is to slow robbers down.

if you hate burglar proofing that much and you have enough cash you can go for window lamination [bulletproofing]

note that it is sometimes your artisans who will sicc robbers onto you as you move into your house

I didn't say that I wasn't using burglary. I just don't subscribe to embedded burglary and prefer the traditional external ones. Like in this picture and similar to some used by Skimanski.

If a robber makes it to my front door, after I've moved in full time, then my years of training have been wasted

It's all about levels of defense. Burglary is not burglary proof as we've seen on here, just burglary resistant. Safe room doesn't mean only that you'll hide in there - wish I could say more

Trust me I'm good and methodological.

oyb:


is that solid steel or hollow pipe
if hollow, what thickness are the pipes?

robbers came to our house when i was in university.[this was 1997,1998] . we had burglar proofing. they broke through it in 45 minutes. the burglar proofing was simply decorative hollow pipes. take a hammer [the type used for breaking concrete] or a bolt cutter to one of the samples to determine just how tough it actually is.


dont wait for that day to find out if your protection is up to scratch

Anything you put in your house is just a deterrent... it's a hollow strong iron, not those aluminum type o..
Even if it's solid iron... if they have the time, it can still be cut... Pray none of them come to your house o.

Note: Don't worry... Erico2k2 and EgunMogaji already gave me that "Sweep the compound broom" thing as secondary protection.

Hajji M.

mufutau55:


Anything you put in your house is just a deterrent... it's a hollow strong iron, not those aluminum type..
Even if its solid iron... if they have the time, it can still be cut... Pray none of them come to your house o.

Note: Don't worry... Erico2k2 and EgunMogaji already gave me that "Sweep the compound broom" thing as secondary protection.

Hajji M.

And my girls

EgunMogaji:


And my girls

I will surely stay out of your house... I don't like dogs, especially those types.

Hajji M.

EgunMogaji:


Yes it's my ongoing build.

There's a 500 square feet central courtyard.

Fear just dey catch me for the roofing estimates I've been getting

waithing the make you fear, if the total area of the house no pass 515 SQM he no pass between 2.9 to 3.2 million including wooden and gutters if you choose to used motopo Aluminum 0.55mm all round. Though this may depends on your roofing hight and design sha.

EgunMogaji:


My design from the beginning is Mediterranean structure due to the weather in Nigeria.

There were four things on my mind.

1) Passive cooling - a giant hole in the middle of the structure guarantees air flow without active cooling.

2) Privacy - with the internal courtyard I can entertain to my delight in private. It's also zone into private, semi private and public areas on the inside.

3) Security - it is my opinion that this is a very safe design and it even has a safe room.

4) Single Level - thinking ahead to old age, it had to be a bungalow.

From the onset I had solar on my mind.

I'm not in any particular hurry to finish the house though I need to seal it sooner than later. I still have another 15 years in the US.

The apartment garage is completed but needs pain painting so I have a place to rest my bones for now and the gateman house is almost done.

No hurry, I'm good with laying one block per year

I had you, kobo kobo like my friend says coming out nice oh. No rush like those fake Chinese fan way know the last.

mufutau55:




"Sweep the compound broom" thing as secondary protection.

Hajji M.

oyb:


is that solid steel or hollow pipe
if hollow, what thickness are the pipes?

robbers came to our house when i was in university.[this was 1997,1998] . we had burglar proofing. they broke through it in 45 minutes. the burglar proofing was simply decorative hollow pipes. take a hammer [the type used for breaking concrete] or a bolt cutter to one of the samples to determine just how tough it actually is.


dont wait for that day to find out if your protection is up to scratch

I'm not too sure how Haji M executed his Windows as displayed but normally inside the square hollow pipes is a 16mm rod. So if you took a hammer to it, you will meet the rod and probably be thwarted.