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Re: Ministers Are Very Important And Not Noisemakers: A Reply To PMB by nigerianvenom(m): 6:58pm On Sep 16, 2015 |
Buhari has a problem and that problem is ignorance on issues of governance 17 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Ministers Are Very Important And Not Noisemakers: A Reply To PMB by Mogidi: 6:59pm On Sep 16, 2015 |
TonyeBarcanista: It was the norm in the 70s/80s, APC collectively won this election, Nigeria expects an APC govt not a one man show. 7 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Ministers Are Very Important And Not Noisemakers: A Reply To PMB by TonyeBarcanista(m): 6:59pm On Sep 16, 2015 |
Splashme:He has to control his anger and direct it at the President 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Ministers Are Very Important And Not Noisemakers: A Reply To PMB by TonyeBarcanista(m): 7:02pm On Sep 16, 2015 |
He doesn't know that a government is not complete without a cabinet Mogidi: 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Ministers Are Very Important And Not Noisemakers: A Reply To PMB by Mogidi: 7:09pm On Sep 16, 2015 |
TonyeBarcanista: We were warned about Buhari's intransigence and hotheadedness, even if he were to appoint ministers, it would still be Buhari's way or no way. Buhari remains an autocrat, he is incapable of transiting to democracy, his rumoured democratic ideals are what they are ... rumours. 9 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Ministers Are Very Important And Not Noisemakers: A Reply To PMB by TonyeBarcanista(m): 7:15pm On Sep 16, 2015 |
Mogidi:Before the election we were told that his actions will be guided by VP Yemi Osinbajo, the Presiding pastor of Tinubu House of Prayer ministry. 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Ministers Are Very Important And Not Noisemakers: A Reply To PMB by Mogidi: 7:15pm On Sep 16, 2015 |
atbu1983: Can you name one democratic country in the world being ruled by one sole administrator? Is Nigeria now a monarchy with Buhari as King? 10 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Ministers Are Very Important And Not Noisemakers: A Reply To PMB by TonyeBarcanista(m): 7:16pm On Sep 16, 2015 |
Errm, High Chief Lalasticlala, please do the needful Sir 4 Likes |
Re: Ministers Are Very Important And Not Noisemakers: A Reply To PMB by TonyeBarcanista(m): 7:17pm On Sep 16, 2015 |
Even Monarchical countries have ministers. Mogidi: 13 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Ministers Are Very Important And Not Noisemakers: A Reply To PMB by TonyeBarcanista(m): 7:19pm On Sep 16, 2015 |
They are not errand boys sir, they are officers of government and the President. atbu1983: 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Ministers Are Very Important And Not Noisemakers: A Reply To PMB by Mogidi: 7:21pm On Sep 16, 2015 |
TonyeBarcanista: Osibanjo was sold as the next Idiagbon, the man to actualise Bubu's vision of a new Nigeria hehehe! A mere commissioner's position is better than the position Osibanjo currently occupies. 13 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Ministers Are Very Important And Not Noisemakers: A Reply To PMB by Mogidi: 7:26pm On Sep 16, 2015 |
nigerianvenom: One would have thought he learnt his lessons from his inglorious exit in 1985. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Ministers Are Very Important And Not Noisemakers: A Reply To PMB by otil1: 7:30pm On Sep 16, 2015 |
Simply put: civil servants are garrison soldier. In combat, garrison never lead attack. They don't gain territory, they maintain and administer already gained territory. Ministers and office holders are the attack force -infantry, artillery, armoured batalion and even airforce. They engage. They are needed to mould and champion policies, and most importantly, to advice the president as he wields executive powers. Powers of the President is wittled down without Federal Executive Council (FEC) on which advise, the president acts. Someone should please, please, please, explain to Buhari that anything he approves without FEC, he is on his own and can personally be answerable for those. 18 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Ministers Are Very Important And Not Noisemakers: A Reply To PMB by AZeD1(m): 7:31pm On Sep 16, 2015 |
TonyeBarcanista:The term "minister" is a title with the only requirement to bearing that title being confirmation by the senate. So just like OBJ was the minister of petroleum during his own time, Buhari can appoint the permanent secretaries or any one from the ministry as minister and your "cabinet" is formed. Bike shedders like you are the problems with this country. 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Ministers Are Very Important And Not Noisemakers: A Reply To PMB by hinwazaka: 7:37pm On Sep 16, 2015 |
The statement by the President was callous, insensitive and myopic and was a huge embarrassment to the office of the President, the constitution, the entire government structure and Nigeria in its totality. How can a head of government go on live television in a foreign state and claim that the officials who act as intermediaries between the government and its public institutions are irrelevant and inconsequential in the entire framework of government. With that said he should just jettison the idea of appointing ministers and hand over total control to the Perm.secs who he described as GODS. Anyone who allows himself to be ridiculed by this President, by accepting the role of a minister in this government is a disgrace to his profession, alma mata, and his family. How can they be expected to effectively carry out their duties in a government that doesn't respect the office they occupy. I pity this country. 20 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Ministers Are Very Important And Not Noisemakers: A Reply To PMB by ARBITRAGEUR: 7:39pm On Sep 16, 2015 |
U need to go for a two year training on democrazy and governance in a constitutional society AZeD1: 15 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Ministers Are Very Important And Not Noisemakers: A Reply To PMB by Nobody: 7:40pm On Sep 16, 2015 |
maryjames9:Mary my dear. Don't spar with them. Not worth the time |
Re: Ministers Are Very Important And Not Noisemakers: A Reply To PMB by Nobody: 7:44pm On Sep 16, 2015 |
TonyeBarcanista: Please move this trash to front page. Help the originator. 3 Likes |
Re: Ministers Are Very Important And Not Noisemakers: A Reply To PMB by Nobody: 7:45pm On Sep 16, 2015 |
Buhari disgracing Nigeria since 1983 ![]() 6 Likes |
Re: Ministers Are Very Important And Not Noisemakers: A Reply To PMB by hinwazaka: 7:45pm On Sep 16, 2015 |
AZeD1:Learn about what you intend to speak about. The constitution mandates that for someone to be made a minister he must meet the same criteria that is mandated for a senator. He must be a member of a political party and must be well known to the political class. So PMB can not make a Perm.sec a minister. 9 Likes |
Re: Ministers Are Very Important And Not Noisemakers: A Reply To PMB by TonyeBarcanista(m): 7:46pm On Sep 16, 2015 |
Mogidi:I honestly don't understand this administration. 2 Likes |
Re: Ministers Are Very Important And Not Noisemakers: A Reply To PMB by sammyj: 7:46pm On Sep 16, 2015 |
Point one is must the OP always respond to all PMB s statements while point two is PMB has said he will send his ministerial appointees list to the house for approval before the end of the month while my last point is that the perm secs who are the executive arm of the civil service have more experience than the so called ministers that only come for their share of the national cake and create avenue for theit various constituency to also eat part of this cake rather than focus on developments !!! Mogidi: 3 Likes |
Re: Ministers Are Very Important And Not Noisemakers: A Reply To PMB by TonyeBarcanista(m): 7:49pm On Sep 16, 2015 |
Yes, Buhari can appoint permanent secretary but the permanent secretary will first resign his job (someone will replace him) and undergo Senate screening. There are no two-ways here. AZeD1: 5 Likes |
Re: Ministers Are Very Important And Not Noisemakers: A Reply To PMB by Mogidi: 7:53pm On Sep 16, 2015 |
sammyj: At the emboldened, is it your job to tell the opposition when to respond? 11 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Ministers Are Very Important And Not Noisemakers: A Reply To PMB by TonyeBarcanista(m): 7:56pm On Sep 16, 2015 |
No matter how we look at it the Permanent Secretaries can't perform ministeral duties. They will only be executing presidential directives. They can't sit and deliberate with the president on issues. The permanent Secretaries can't approve contracts without the minister countersign... Except they'll be taking it to the president who will be choked at the end of the day. Even LGA Chairmen appoints Supervisory Councillors hinwazaka: 2 Likes |
Re: Ministers Are Very Important And Not Noisemakers: A Reply To PMB by ifelovemi: 7:56pm On Sep 16, 2015 |
hinwazaka: Naa wa for you o. can you please quote the section of the constitution that stipulate the bolded. A Lot of educated illiterate in Nairaland. 13 Likes |
Re: Ministers Are Very Important And Not Noisemakers: A Reply To PMB by Beremx(f): 7:59pm On Sep 16, 2015 |
doublewisdom:....and nobody knows how intelligent your father is. Too bad! The illiterate Buhari will be your president for 4yrs and if you're not careful,for another 4yrs. 12 Likes |
Re: Ministers Are Very Important And Not Noisemakers: A Reply To PMB by sammyj: 8:00pm On Sep 16, 2015 |
Re: Ministers Are Very Important And Not Noisemakers: A Reply To PMB by Rawani: 8:02pm On Sep 16, 2015 |
Mogidi: It can be inferred from the several statements released, such as the one given today. |
Re: Ministers Are Very Important And Not Noisemakers: A Reply To PMB by Nobody: 8:03pm On Sep 16, 2015 |
TonyeBarcanista:Too pathetic. You are critical of the administration because you don't understand it. Buhari never hid the basis for his coming back to government; tackle corruption, insecurity and create employment. Nigerian people gave him a 48-month contract. He's just under four months gone. And he's looked at what we have and found the bane to be that nobody is held accountable for acts in government. For instance, Obasanjo spent $13.2 billion on Power and we can't see electricity. GEJ spent large sum also. Interestingly, I haven't bought fuel for the generators in one month. Ministers behaved as if they were gods. Now before you select government officials there should be performance expectations and clear directions. 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Ministers Are Very Important And Not Noisemakers: A Reply To PMB by Mogidi: 8:12pm On Sep 16, 2015 |
Rawani:Thanks for clearing it up, most APC supporters thought Buhari was still in search of men of integrity, never suspected a different spin has been spun to beguile the gullible. 1 Like |
Re: Ministers Are Very Important And Not Noisemakers: A Reply To PMB by adadadon(m): 8:15pm On Sep 16, 2015 |
TonyeBarcanista:Prosecution under the Act is to be initiated by the AGF/officer in the federal ministry of justice so authorised 1 Like |
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