guysparrow: @beneli
After passing part 1 plab in Lagos,can someone be giving a visa just for part 2 in UK. What other countries can a doctor with GMC practice apart from England/Uk. What are the average monthly pay for doctors in TT, Grenada, Barbados. I also hear they are some uni courses one can take for 6mths to 1yr in TT or other carribean nations and is equivalent to a US med. Licence. can one get automatic residency spot in SA after PLAB and what is their monthly pay. I will be glad if you can clear the air on these issues.Tks

1. After passing part 1 plab in Lagos, can someone be giving a visa just for part 2 in UK?

To the best of my knowledge the answer is ‘Yes’. Here is a link for your reference:
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/policyandlaw/guidance/ecg/vat/vat15/

2. What other countries can a doctor with GMC practice apart from England/UK?

It really depends on how much UK experience you have and also on your immigration status.
If you have Full GMC registration but have limited UK experience, your options are not that many. Unfortunately you’ll only be able to practice within the UK and the British Isles.

If however you have UK experience, then you could also get jobs in places like Australia, New Zealand and some southern African countries (possibly SA, Botswana etc.). Of course these jobs would be outside the major cities and would not be ‘training posts’. To get into training posts (residency programmes) you’d be expected to pass their respective licensing exams.

If you don’t have restrictions on your visa (i.e. you have a British passport) then you’d be able to also work in most countries within the European Economic Area. You may also be able to work in some regions in Canada if you’re a General Practitioner (Primary Care Physician). I am sure that you’re aware that a General Practitioner is a specialist who has completed his residency in General Practice.

3. What is the average monthly pay for doctors in TT, Grenada, Barbados?

I am not quite sure what their average pay is. I do know however that while a lot of people move from the Indian subcontinent and African countries to those regions, a lot of people there move to America and the UK, in search of greener pastures!

4. I also hear they are some uni courses one can take for 6mths to 1yr in TT or other Caribbean nations and is equivalent to a US med. Licence.

I am not aware of this. I doubt it to be true . . .

5. Can one get automatic residency spot in SA after PLAB and what is their monthly pay.

It is not likely that you can get an automatic residency spot in SA after PLAB. I am not aware that the UK and South Africa have that kind of relationship. Having full UK registration may make getting a residency spot in South Africa a lot more easier though.

I hope i've helped clear a bit of the air . . .!

Best regards.

bisiswag: Lovly thread,pls guys does anyone have any idea how psychiatry residency is Primaries,getting residency placement and all. Thanks y'all.

1. Does anyone have any idea how psychiatry residency is?

I think it really depends on where you do the residency.

In the UK it's now a 6 year programme to be able to get the Certificate of Specialist Registration (this allows you to start competing for Consultant jobs). The first 3 - 4 years is for basic specialist training, during which time you’d be expected to pass all your membership exams and then become a Member of the Royal College of Psychiatrists. You may decide to stop at this stage and start working as a middle grade Psychiatrist. If you want to continue your residency you’ll then spend the next 2- 3 years doing higher specialist training. During this period you’d be expected to focus on the subspecialty of Psychiatry that you’re really interested in. This could include Child and Adolescent, General Adult, Forensic, Rehabilitation, Psychotherapy, Addiction etc.

In the USA and Canada the training is slightly different. You spend 3 years in generic training. Some people stop at this point and then start working as General Psychiatrists. Those that want to continue training, spend another 1 - 2 years in Fellowship (almost like the higher specialist training in the UK) after which they become ‘specialists’ in the subspecialty of Psychiatry they did their fellowship in.

2. I don't know what residency placements etc. is like in Nigeria, so I won't be able to answer the rest of your questions.

All the best. . .

After BSc Anatomy am now going in for medicine in a medical school in Nigeria. I have my fears but I pray its worth it. The passion outweighs d stress right?

@beneli
Thanks so much for your prompt resonse,may God bless you
Please what guide or study materials or web based qtns are required in preparing for the PLAB exams
Thanks

toyingbad: After BSc Anatomy am now going in for medicine in a medical school in Nigeria. I have my fears but I pray its worth it. The passion outweighs d stress right?

If that's what you want, by all means go for it. I can't answer your question about the passion outweighing the stress, because I don't know how much passion you've got. But one thing I know is that the stress is much. All the best.

Good afternoon Doctors.Please can anyone enlighten me on where its preferable where one does his/her house job in Nigeria,that is a teaching hospital or a federal medical center.Thanks.

A teaching hospital is preferable, but these days getting a place for housejob is difficult, anywhere u get is good & ok.

dmasterchief: Good afternoon Doctors.Please can anyone enlighten me on where its preferable where one does his/her house job in Nigeria,that is a teaching hospital or a federal medical center.Thanks.

None is really preferable over d other my dear,it only depends on what you want out of house job.

Some claim its better to do in a teaching hospital but u have to be prepared to work crazy hours and hustle to learn anything cos of the residents and all(e.g,where u are supposed to be the point man repairing episiotomies and scrubbing for surgeries,it goes to the junior residents cos there are so many of them). U also have to be prepared to kiss a lot of a** and suck up to doctors u may not really like due to fear of extra calls(this is not funny at all).

Now for federal medical centres,yes u still get to work,BUT sweetheart believe me wen i say u will learn good skills needed for the job. In all just be prepared to work n if u dont like to work and want to be free,then just do in a state hospital.

So i think if u get placement in any FMC,u should go for it. N welcome to d world of our bitter-sweet profession.

Some people believe that doing your internship at a FMC will give you more practical knowledge whilst a Teaching Hospital is best for academic growth. However, you can still learn practical stuff at a TT tho. In some places, a lumbar puncture is a house officer's procedure while it is done by a registrar in other places.
Since they are both Federal institutes, I don't think the salary disparity is much. You can still make money wherever you go by doing some good ol' PP

Thanks all for helping me emerge enlightened.

Goodmorning docs!I'm a houseofficer right now in nigeria,and want to attempt the next primaries fellowship exams for obstetrics and gynaecology but I want to get information abt what texts to read and exactly wat topics to read in order to pass the exam.anybody who has passed this stage may help out please.thanks in anticipation!

Goodday house, you guys are doing a wonderful job, pls keep it up, cos dats what hippocrates envisaged, being Ʊя̲ brothers keeper. A special thanks to beneli, U̶̲̥̅̊ ve helped hundreds of med personnel over †ђε years & their silent blessings ll continue to lead U̶̲̥̅̊ far in life, also thanks to other who ve been part of †ђε enlightenment campaign. Keep it up, bros

Nairalanders pls how easy is it to get resident placement in naija,after primaries what are d requirements and which hospitals offer cardiology as a speciality in naija. Thanks

Guddy docs in d building pls i wnt u guyz 2 enlightn me more on d top medical profession in nigeria...i rili luv 2 b a doc 2 buh 9ja uniz dz daes isnt easy 2 enta 4 mbbs buh i jux nid more info on other top medical profession which is best selling in 9ja wit gud pay......

@twist kid.. money should not be your top consideration in entering the medical profession. You may get frustrated

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Docs in the house pls if u or u know anyone preparing for psychiatry primaries(national or west africa)march next year, kindly get in touch with me via bisiswag@gmail.com. Its so hard finding dem n I need materials n update,everyone seems to be writing d big fours,med,surg,paed,obs. Lol. Thanks in advance

Cmanforall: A teaching hospital is preferable, but these days getting a place for housejob is difficult, anywhere u get is good & ok.

I think a federal medical centre is best....you sure will learn a lot in such a hospital. in a teaching centre, u are just an errand boy chasing investigations etc

Joining the thread...hello everyone
I am a doki too....was browsing the forum when I saw this somehow

Resident, in 9ja, but stuck in a rut.. thinking of leaving...to go be a non doctor in another country for a year or two, wild eh? But true

anyways....joining you guys here
Good to find this thread on nairaland

@beneli and doctors with any idea about saudi arabia
Good day
I recently secured a job with the saudi arabia ministry of Health
I am now 3 yrs post internship and my starting pay is $2k
I am currently working in FCT with a pay $1,150
I am seeking advice on a viable option to take considering the security challenges for non moselms in the middle east and I also want to know If It is easy to commence residency in saudi. Are there countries I can easily get jobs with a 1 - 2 years saudi experience.
Thanks I await your response

guysparrow: @beneli and doctors with any idea about saudi arabia
Good day
I recently secured a job with the saudi arabia ministry of Health
I am now 3 yrs post internship and my starting pay is $2k
I am currently working in FCT with a pay $1,150
I am seeking advice on a viable option to take considering the security challenges for non moselms in the middle east and I also want to know If It is easy to commence residency in saudi. Are there countries I can easily get jobs with a 1 - 2 years saudi experience.
Thanks I await your response

Hey sincerely I do not have a definite answer to ur question jst that with an opportunity to work in S/Arabia am sure they wld be better opportunity to move higher in ones career dan getting placement in nigeria which is more of man know man now. As per security I know there are many foreigners is saudis and saudis have been known to be quite tolerant though I know there are some cities ie Mecca and Medina I think where churches are not allowed to be built there. But pls how did u get this S/Arabian job cos am interested did u write any exams? And etc wld appreciate any helpful info am jst completing my nysc and wldnt mind working there. My email seyioluks(at)gmail(dot)com. Thank you.

Hello guys,
I am a Nigerian studying medicine outside Nigeria. I plan to do some of my 6th year rotations back home. However, I am not sure of what type of institution to go for it. I am mostly interested in honing my clinical skills than theoretical knowledge (this, I'm fairly comfortably with). My school recommends a teaching hospital, but I'm free to choose where to do it as long as I have performed a set of pre-defined procedures. Where would you guys recommend I go for my practice?
Any help would be highly appreciated.
Thanks.

messiah: Hello guys,
I am a Nigerian studying medicine outside Nigeria. I plan to do some of my 6th year rotations back home. However, I am not sure of what type of institution to go for it. I am mostly interested in honing my clinical skills than theoretical knowledge (this, I'm fairly comfortably with). My school recommends a teaching hospital, but I'm free to choose where to do it as long as I have performed a set of pre-defined procedures. Where would you guys recommend I go for my practice?
Any help would be highly appreciated.
Thanks.

Hi, welcome. When you say clinical skills, what clinical skills exactly are you referring to? And what are these "pre-defined" procedures you're interested in. This will enable us know which kind of hospital you'll get such opportunities.

okorouchenna8: Goodmorning docs!I'm a houseofficer right now in nigeria,and want to attempt the next primaries fellowship exams for obstetrics and gynaecology but I want to get information abt what texts to read and exactly wat topics to read in order to pass the exam.anybody who has passed this stage may help out please.thanks in anticipation!

Happy new year...pls av you gotten any materials yet cos I'll really live to lay my hands on dem too...o n g materials I mean....tnx...drlawalonaolapo@yahoo.com. God bless you

messiah: @beneli,
Thank you once again for such a prompt and detailed response. It was highly informative and very useful. To be honest, I've never been the type interested in practising in the UK. I'd rather go to Sweden for example, take the trouble to learn the language, and practice there for some time. I just lately started asking questions about the UK because many of the consultants that bothered to forget about their junior doctors for once and paid any attention to us (medical students) had some training there and paid glowing tributes to it. Most likely, they never saw other parts of Western Europe and thus don't know that UK isn't the only country w/ an outstanding health care system.
Anyway, my heart has always been w/ the US albeit w/ it's complex health care system and all. I've already started preparing for the USMLE step 1. In fact, I own a couple of preparatory materials [the so-called Board Review Series (BRS) and High-Yield (HY) books]. I also have some Kaplan videos. I've heard of Dr Najeeb before and I've watched a couple of his free lectures on youtube. However, I wanna restrict my preparatory materials to a few. More like talking about quality than quantity.
I had thought that considering the UK might open more options for me, but obviously that seems unlikely.
I don't think having your email is necessary anymore looking at the way you promptly replied. In fact, I prefer it this way as other people can learn a lot from your posts.
I've bookmarked this page for future reference and also to make it easier for me to posts questions that I may have. Hopefully, one day you won't complain about the tonnes of questions I'd be asking you
Thank you and enjoy the rest of your day.

Sorry toh bother but I heard lots of stories lately about how difficult it is toh get placement in US even after blasting dr exams....things like being denied a visa,not getting a hospital toh offer you placement and all...would like toh know yur view about ds b4 I start prepping for step one...tnx....