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Re: A Discriminating Experience In Poland by arabianights: 10:14am On Sep 22, 2015
ferdyabu:

Where is home? Nigerians are the biggest racist/tribalist.

We are racists? ehn!? please can you state instances?Or did any oyinbo complain that we are?.We are very receptive towards those ungrateful ,racists oyinbos that are in Nigeria.So how can you state such,tribalism,yes! but racism................................Clearly you dont know the meaning of the word.

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Re: A Discriminating Experience In Poland by pansophist(m): 10:14am On Sep 22, 2015
arabianights:



please what is "racial profiling"? Sir you sound very educated, i therefore believe you should know that racial profiling stems from racism. there is no way you can seperate them.Attempt it lets see

I can see where you are shifting this into. Racial profiling refers to the discriminatory practice by law enforcement officials of targeting individuals for suspicion of crime based on the individual's race, ethnicity, religion or national origin.

Although this is racial profiling obviously, I agree. All I am inferring is that I choose to present it in an open way, without according my own tag on it. Labelling it as racial profiling, racism, prejudice etc is duely my own projection, which others might disagree with. You got my point now?
Re: A Discriminating Experience In Poland by arabianights: 10:16am On Sep 22, 2015
spiralwedge:


lolz grin grin

they have a whole lot of positives too. wink


such as ?System that functions unlike nigeria,abi? but they are bloody racists and you might as well stay in Nigeria.

Arabians are the worst but the difference is they will give you what you worked for,besides they are too rich or lazy to work so you can eventually be at the top if you are trustworthy and hardworking but those .......................infact
Re: A Discriminating Experience In Poland by arabianights: 10:24am On Sep 22, 2015
pansophist:


I can see where you are shifting this into. Racial profiling refers to the discriminatory practice by law enforcement officials of targeting individuals for suspicion of crime based on the individual's race, ethnicity, religion or national origin.

Although this is racial profiling obviously, I agree. All I am inferring is that I choose to present it in an open way, without according a tag to it. Labelling it as racial profiling, racism, prejudice etc is duely my own projection, which others might disagree with. You got my point now?

The definition of racial profiling is just for least offensive.Others efine it as:

ra·cial pro·fil·ing
noun

1. the use of race or ethnicity as grounds for suspecting someone of having committed an offense


Me sha, Press this home as in approach them through the law.You incurred damages by way of psychological to the extent that they other passengers were scared of you as if you had ebola all over you.Do this or dont come back to Nairaland again with your complaints as i don mark your name unless you wish to change profile name

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Re: A Discriminating Experience In Poland by alexlee50: 10:26am On Sep 22, 2015
princetunex:
Racism is not new but I understand how you feel. You simply paid for the sins of our brothers who have tarnished the image of our color but I'm glad you didn't make any trouble n that's mature. Just move on bro
your statement that he is paying for the sins of "our brothers"is wrong and misleading.are the whites better than blacks? Why are u looking at the black man with inferority complex in your mind? Prominent serial killers in time past, were they blacks? Was adolf hitler black? Some of the greatest robbers of all time, were they blacks? Was the maker of the atomic bomb a black man?

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Re: A Discriminating Experience In Poland by spiralwedge(m): 10:27am On Sep 22, 2015
arabianights:



such as ?System that functions unlike nigeria,abi? but they are bloody racists and you might as well stay in Nigeria.

Arabians are the worst but the difference is they will give you what you worked for,besides they are too rich or lazy to work so you can eventually be at the top if you are trustworthy and hardworking but those .......................infact

we are saying the same thing. every country has the good and the bad. Nigeria's bads are similar to that of Hell Fire Kingdom.

So, I'll rather live where the system is working and 'manage' the racism.
Re: A Discriminating Experience In Poland by meforyou1(m): 10:29am On Sep 22, 2015
3 years ago when i went to seoul, south korea. while coming back. at hong kong. about to board BA, just for one white man to remove me from the queue and started asking sstupid questions. seized my passport and boarding pass. and scanned and checked. and later cme back and apologised and gave me back my documents.
i didnt even feel nothing. i just entered the plane and sat down and bone.
Re: A Discriminating Experience In Poland by Crieff(m): 10:38am On Sep 22, 2015
jayriginal:


You're right. Its the mods that changed it to "My Racism Experience". Most of our mods are illiterates and I'm not sorry to say that. They change topic titles in ways that expose their educational shortcomings and they abuse quotation marks with impunity. In this case though they may be right. Discrimination based on race is racism. So what you choose to call it is not as important as the meaning you are conveying.

Back to you however, I wouldn't exactly call it discrimination as you prefer to call it. Its an unfortunate incident no doubt but unless it was uncalled for, its a security measure. If it can be proven that no one dropped a bag anywhere, then I'll stand firmly by you. However you said that when you demanded to see the tape, they told you that you'd miss your flight if they were to show it. At the end of the day, we don't know if you were discriminated against or not.

Your post is patronising. What else would you call it if not discrimination, security measure?
So if he was the person in the video footage they saw and he threatened litigation, they will let him go away, right? It is what it is and it is not just despicable, it is repugnant.

What would you call Madcow1's recount?

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Re: A Discriminating Experience In Poland by Nobody: 10:42am On Sep 22, 2015
even in South Africa they maltreat Nigerians... it is everywhere.
Re: A Discriminating Experience In Poland by GerogeI(m): 10:44am On Sep 22, 2015
We like to hide all our problem behind racisim.

I would like to tell the OP that their was nothing racist about his experience.
Rather you might say you were profiled cause of where you came from not your colour.
The fact remains that a huge amount of drug trafficking stems from West Africa, precisely Nigeria. Even the South Americans that cultivate the drugs are not stupid enough to be running around the world boarding airplanes with drugs in their droves.

Do you want the polish officials to ignore the fact that majority of drug peddlers consider their airport a weak spot, and originate from your region. Just like we would want the would to ignore the fact that huge amount of Internet scams come from our country, simply because we refuse to govern ourselves, or police our internet access. Am sure the day countries begin to block Internet access requests from Nigeria, we will all shout racisim.

Yet we are the most ethically minded and discriminatory people

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Re: A Discriminating Experience In Poland by Nobody: 10:49am On Sep 22, 2015
emekatimsu:
I understand how you feel, Mr writer. I have once had a similar experience in Germany and it was quite painful. Anyway aside from some bad eggs painting the green passport black from diaspora we here in Nigera practice the worst form of discrimination amongst ourself so we should nt cry much when other nationals theat us in like manner.

Honestly, I was surprised to see the thread here. I don't even come here as frequently anymore because the hatred and tribalism was too much for me. To think they're the ones complaining of racism :/
Re: A Discriminating Experience In Poland by tsdarkside(m): 10:52am On Sep 22, 2015
SimonPeters2020:
I never knew someone else had the same experience. I will never connect my flight again ever in Poland, they are too racial. I was traveling back to the states from Austria and i was due to connect my flight in Warsaw. To my greatest surprise i was singled out of over 150 passengers and my passport was scanned severally, not as if that was a Nigerian passport but just because i am black. Those skin heads hate blacks like mad.

let them hate,as they like...they are going down with the rest of the useless white-race...me,i dont even waste my time to separate them,good white or bad white...for me,the entire white-race is completly useless.....
Re: A Discriminating Experience In Poland by pansophist(m): 10:54am On Sep 22, 2015
GerogeI:
We like to hide all our problem behind racisim.

I would like to tell the OP that their was nothing racist about his experience.
Rather you might say you were profiled cause of where you came from not your colour.
The fact remains that a huge amount of drug trafficking stems from West Africa, precisely Nigeria. Even the South Americans that cultivate the drugs are not stupid enough to be running around the would boarding airplanes with drugs in their droves.

Do you want the polish officials to ignore the fact that majority of drug peddlers consider their airport a weak spot, and originate from your region. Just like we would want the would to ignore the fact that huge amount of Internet scams come from our country, simply because we refuse to govern ourselves, or police our internet access. Am sure the day countries begin to block Internet access requests from Nigeria, we will all shout racisim.

Yet we are the most ethically minded and discriminatory people

So many misconception emanates from your post, and it baffles me you say that with much conviction.

How did you arrived at the conclusion that I am from West Africa and even travelling with a West African passport?

Majority of drug dealers are not from west Africa and even if they were, Poland is not a marketplace for it. Drug dealing is not a colour thing, go to Netherlands or even Poland where I lived for one year, and you will understand this. Majority of drugs are sold on street by its citizens.

I travelled with an EU document, so your extrapolation about drug peddling and internet scamming tie to ''where I came from'' is wrong.

Need I say more?

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Re: A Discriminating Experience In Poland by Originalsly: 11:03am On Sep 22, 2015
pansophist:

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I am writing this letter without prejudice, and all I ask for is that the necessary authorities should equip its employees with customer relationship skills and method in reaching coherent conclusions without subjecting anyone to an inhumane treatment, and also as a deterrent from this happening to subsequent passengers.
I am almost sure they were well trained in all the above.....and also told that they are like ambassadors of their country.... but with the appearance of a Black person.....racism takes over. If these are the trained ones and can operate like this....then you better rethink how the general population would be looking at you.
Re: A Discriminating Experience In Poland by pansophist(m): 11:05am On Sep 22, 2015
Originalsly:
I am almost sure they were well trained in all the above.....and also told that they are like ambassadors of their country.... but with the appearance of a Black person.....racism takes over. If these are the trained ones and can operate like this....then you better rethink how the general population would be looking at you.

From my experience there, I didnt actually experience racism per se, just ignorance. Like constant stare, funny questions and racial abuse by vigrants. I have also tones of good experiences from them, and have been saved by a Pole who punched a homeless man for racially insulting me. Some of my very good friends are Polish people, hence the formulation of my post by not generalizing and labelling them all as racist. Regardless of professional training, some people will never change and those are the kind I encountered at the airport.

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Re: A Discriminating Experience In Poland by murphyibiam15(m): 11:12am On Sep 22, 2015
freecocoa:
You have a point honestly, Anambrarians discriminate even amongst themselves, It took a lot of talk, quarrel, fight and lecture before my cousin from Awka could marry his wife form Idemili, only to later realise her parents initially also refused, reason being "Awka is far" like wtf? Awka far from idemili? I just weak.grin

lolz......u're head dey there....thats the kind of thing we see amongst us.so we just need to start tolerating ourselves first b4 we accuse the whites.though not supporting racism on blacks.
Re: A Discriminating Experience In Poland by arabianights: 11:31am On Sep 22, 2015
spiralwedge:


we are saying the same thing. every country has the good and the bad. Nigeria's bads are similar to that of Hell Fire Kingdom.

So, I'll rather live where the system is working and 'manage' the racism.



.............................."Nigeria's bads are similar to that of Hell Fire Kingdom.........


Thats too harsh...............One day, you will chew your words.
Re: A Discriminating Experience In Poland by Damsman10(m): 11:35am On Sep 22, 2015
Atmmachine:
My Nigga.
That's not even racism.
When you see a real racism, you won't be able to narrate your ordeal to anyone.
The just wanna see your ID & make sure you wasn't the one who dropped the bag.

lol, n dat should b called ...
Re: A Discriminating Experience In Poland by Nobody: 11:41am On Sep 22, 2015
GerogeI:
We like to hide all our problem behind racisim.

I would like to tell the OP that their was nothing racist about his experience.
Rather you might say you were profiled cause of where you came from not your colour.
The fact remains that a huge amount of drug trafficking stems from West Africa, precisely Nigeria. Even the South Americans that cultivate the drugs are not stupid enough to be running around the would boarding airplanes with drugs in their droves.

Do you want the polish officials to ignore the fact that majority of drug peddlers consider their airport a weak spot, and originate from your region. Just like we would want the would to ignore the fact that huge amount of Internet scams come from our country, simply because we refuse to govern ourselves, or police our internet access. Am sure the day countries begin to block Internet access requests from Nigeria, we will all shout racisim.

Yet we are the most ethically minded and discriminatory people

My friend,
I don't know what you are talking about,at that point in time,none of them knew where the op is from nor his nationality.So what are you saying?.

For the records,I do not use Nigerian passport,I always use visa to visit nig.

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Re: A Discriminating Experience In Poland by GerogeI(m): 11:42am On Sep 22, 2015
pansophist:


So much misconception emanates from your post, and baffles me that you say this with much conviction.

How did you arrived at the conclusion that I am from West Africa and even travelling with a West African passport?

Majority of drug dealers are not from west Africa and even if they were, Poland is not a marketplace for it. Drug dealing is not a colour thing, go to Netherlands or even Poland where I lived for one year, and you will understand this. Majority of drugs are sold on street by its citizens.

I travelled with an EU document, so your extrapolation about drug peddling and internet scamming tie to ''where I came from'' is wrong.

Need I say more?

When I speak of peddlers am not talking of street peddlers, but drug transporters. Check statistics, a huge among of drugs distributed around the world transit from South America to West Africa and onward. Preferentially through airports that are considered less secure. An example within Nigeria is the new attention drug traffickers give to the New Enugu International airport which they consider less secure.

So maybe you do not know that transiting drugs through airports is a major career in Nigeria. An yes, the transporters are not the owners, just the mules. And the standard practice is to pass through weak airports and also abandon the bag if discovered. So it's highly likely the bag in question contained drugs.

As to your passport, the typical security person will keep in mind that it could be false, your look first probably identifies you as Nigerian.

Let's take the duty of protecting our collective wealth and good image, it is worth a lot. Terming everything racisim is behaving like ostriches.

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Re: A Discriminating Experience In Poland by jayriginal: 11:43am On Sep 22, 2015
Crieff:


Your post is patronising. What else would you call it if not discrimination, security measure?
So if he was the person in the video footage they saw and he threatened litigation, they will let him go away, right? It is what it is and it is not just despicable, it is repugnant.

What would you call Madcow1's recount?

Its not discrimination if they had valid reasons for it and they were following security protocol. If they had no reasons for that other than the fact that he is black, then that is discrimination. How on earth you can conclude that the above is patronizing is beyond me. Keep sentiments aside please.

Bear in mind that they claimed to have video footage which the OP didnt get to see as he was told that he would miss his flight if they had to show it to him. Perhaps you expect them to hold up the flight for him (anything else would be discriminatory right?). As difficult as it might seem to believe, some people have a hard time telling black people apart (like some people have a hard time telling some Asians apart). Perhaps someone else ( a person of color) dropped a bag at the airport and they thought it was him and decided to check! Perhaps they just wanted to harass him for no reason. Either way, we do not know enough to conclude that it is racism.

At least the OP did not miss his flight. I missed mine but you dont hear me shout racism because I know the reason my passport was subjected to such intense scrutiny.
Re: A Discriminating Experience In Poland by Nobody: 11:44am On Sep 22, 2015
chara019:
Mtcheeew.....see them crying foul over racism,when tribalism is ongoing in your country,are you any better either?yeye dey smell .mtchew.

Abi o
Re: A Discriminating Experience In Poland by Nobody: 11:49am On Sep 22, 2015
melakes:

I quite agree with u but its beyond racism. the heart of virtually all men are somewhat similar or what will u call a typical tribalistic nigerian? Even within a tribe, u av ethnicity. As long as we dont c oursefs as equals, we'll continue to recount such barbaric experiences. I wish we can live in a world devoid of racism, ethnicity, tribalism, religious segregation, etc. But in truth, all dz make us humans. Only d wise ar free from them all.

The unfortunate truth. As long as humans can be categorised, we'll always find different ways to hate and discriminate against one another.
Re: A Discriminating Experience In Poland by GerogeI(m): 11:52am On Sep 22, 2015
euromilion:


My friend,
I don't know what you are talking about,at that point in time,none of them knew where the op is from nor his nationality.So what are you saying?.

For the records,I do not use Nigerian passport,I always use visa to visit nig.

And you also changed your looks from appearing Nigerian.lol

Let me make it simple. Some one abandoned a bag with drugs, the security are looking for the person fast. They zoom in on Nigerians, cause from experience Nigerians are majorly involved in transiting drugs. Shikina
Re: A Discriminating Experience In Poland by Nobody: 12:01pm On Sep 22, 2015
GerogeI:


When I speak of peddlers am not talking of street peddlers, but drug transporters. Check statistics, a huge among of drugs distributed around the world transit from South America to West Africa and onward. Preferentially through airports that are considered less secure. An example within Nigeria is the new attention drug traffickers give to the New Enugu International airport which they consider less secure.

So maybe you do not know that transiting drugs through airports is a major career in Nigeria. An yes, the transporters are not the owners, just the mules. And the standard practice is to pass through weak airports and also abandon the bag if discovered. So it's highly likely the bag in question contained drugs.

As to your passport, the typical security person will keep in mind that it could be false, your look first probably identifies you as Nigerian.

Let's take the duty of protecour collective wealth and good image, it is worth a lot. Terming everything racisim is behaving like ostriches.

Talking of good image?.I guess it starts from you,Eastern Europeans are the biggest drug dealers here in Europe.Nigeria gov need to control their media outlets like evry other countries does,and in my opinion,some of Nigerians so called educated,are half baked,imagine a so called educated man putting his own country down in public,and he's even a diplomat for that matter.
Re: A Discriminating Experience In Poland by Nobody: 12:06pm On Sep 22, 2015
I'm not so sure this was racially motivated. It could have been a genuine mistake on the part of the airline staff. Not saying this isn't racism but you can be sure what exactly happened by contacting the airline to seek redress for the embarrassment. I don't know if it's possible for you to see the recording they claim you starred in but perhaps that should give you an inclination into what really transpired on the day in question. Good luck.
Re: A Discriminating Experience In Poland by ferdyabu(m): 12:09pm On Sep 22, 2015
arabianights:


We are racists? ehn!? please can you state instances?Or did any oyinbo complain that we are?.We are very receptive towards those ungrateful ,racists oyinbos that are in Nigeria.So how can you state such,tribalism,yes! but racism................................Clearly you dont know the meaning of the word.
My mum is white and my dad is from Bonny island,Rivers state.I have experienced discrimination when I was living in Nigeria because they thought that I wasn't black enough or look exactly like them.
Re: A Discriminating Experience In Poland by Nobody: 12:10pm On Sep 22, 2015
GerogeI:


An you also changed your looks from appearing Nigerian.lol

Let me make it simple. Some one abandoned a bag with drugs, the security are looking for the person fast. They zoom in on Nigerians, cause from experience Nigerians are majorly involved in transiting drugs. Shikina

My friend,
All your write up here are what I may term,generalisations and assumptions.

For your info,I don't even look Nigerian nor sound Nigerian,to the extent that even the embassy always request for invitation letter or hotel reservation from me before any visa given.

Anyways,it's been a pleasure talking to u.Goodluck.

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Re: A Discriminating Experience In Poland by arabianights: 12:29pm On Sep 22, 2015
ferdyabu:

My mum is white and my dad is from Bonny island,Rivers state.I have experienced discrimination when I was living in Nigeria because they thought that I wasn't black enough or look exactly like them.



Na lie !!!! they adore half castes in that region.who are you fooling? may be your mum or dad offended them

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Re: A Discriminating Experience In Poland by arabianights: 12:31pm On Sep 22, 2015
euromilion:


My friend,
All your write up here are what I may term,generalisations and assumptions.

For your info,I don't even look Nigerian nor sound Nigerian,to the extent that even the embassy always request for invitation letter or hotel reservation from me before any visa given.

Anyways,it's been a pleasure talking to u.Goodluck.


grin grin grin grin ;so you be oyinbo or what ? if you dont look like us then how you go look?

pix or hadonbelivit tongue
Re: A Discriminating Experience In Poland by haul: 12:41pm On Sep 22, 2015
fightforchange1:


Ig anything white people are worshipped for their past. We the world worship them by being christian and naming our kids euro style names...
Abandoning our customs to accept theirs.

Na den you go dey hear cynthia, Felicia, ben, hanks!

After reading a lot and fred myself of mental slavery long ago, I called my parent and cured their ignorance that they made a mistake giving me a jew name calling it christian names, the good thing is that it was a third name.

Why can't we name ourselves olayemi, babayaro, chinedu?

You see them even rebranding ikechwuku to "iyke"

Nobody go bear such names as joseph, benjamin from my own lineage rubbish! I'm african so everything about me!

There is even this sport host on inside sport called "joe hanson" if you first see this name won't you think his white,even if you want to give an opportunity to a black man you would have skipped his name from the blessing.

Its start with loving ourselves, making ankara,lace,aso ofi, our official dress to work not relegating them to only fridays in our own country.

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