I asked you and gave example of 7 different Mary in your new testament. Maybe two are blood relations.

In either case the Quran is not a historical book and we cannot say the history recorded in the bible is totally correct.

I have also shared meanings of the names of Imran as an exalted or highly placed person which is similar to Amram. Do you imply there cannot be numerous exalted people?

TenQ:


Basic lack of History by both Allah and his Mohammed :

If Allah had called Mary the Daughter of David, it would have made some sense. Unfortunately, Allah and his Mohammed mixed up Mariam and Mary thinking that they are the same person.

I hope you know that Mariam and Mary are the same in Arabic.

Mariam (مريم): This is the Arabic name for Mary, the mother of Jesus, as mentioned in the Quran and used in Arabic-speaking Christian communities. It is the more common Arabic form of the name.

Mary (ماري): This is a variation of the name Mary in Arabic, often used in some regions or in transliterated forms of the name.


How did Mohammed and Allah mix up Mariam the daughter of Imran with Mary the mother of Jesus?

Num 26:59:
"And the name of Amram's wife was Jochebed, the daughter of Levi, whom her mother bore to Levi in Egypt: and she bore unto Amram Aaron and Moses , and Miriam their sister."

Yes, however note that Allah chose Adam and Noah and the descendants of Abraham and of ‘Imran above all mankind.

TenQ:

Then Mary is a daughter to Abraham or Isaac or Jacob or Levi.

Jacob is the father of the 12 tribes of Israel. Mary can only be descendant of only one of these 12 tribes and it is Judah (certainly not Levi).

Ohyoudidnt:
Following the first exile, it is apparent that the status of mothers began to play a significant role in determining the national/ethnic identity of their children. Lets consider the narration of the expulsion in Ezra 9.1–10.4, which recounts the removal of foreign women and their children, thereby apparently linking the status of children with their mothers. Then the Shechemite narrative in Jub. 30.1–26 and considers the incorporation of Molech language in the prohibition against intermarriage.

Can you consider that the association between intermarriage and idolatry may be rooted in the presumption that Dinah's progeny would be Jewish, yet raised as idolaters. Also the author of Luke-Acts portrays Timothy as Jewish (Acts 16.1–3) in light of his mother's status and thus was required to undergo circumcision. Timothy came from a mixed racial background, in which his mother was Jewish and his father was Greek. His familiarity with the Jewish and Greco-Roman cultures made him an ideal protégé of Paul; and,
In later years, Timothy served as Paul’s emissary at various locales, where the apostle had established churches on his missionary journeys.

Considering Jewish history characterized by persecution and diaspora, determining Jewish identity through the mother ensured that Jewish heritage and traditions would be preserved and passed on to future generations.

According to rabbinic law, from the second century to the present, the offspring of a gentile mother and a Jewish father is a gentile, while the offspring of a Jewish mother and a gentile father is a Jew (albeit, according to the Mishnah, a mamzer, a Jew of impaired status).
Such societies once existed in ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia, and can still be found in parts of Africa, India, and Polynesia.

Judges 5:7, which states, The villagers ceased in Israel; they ceased to be until I, Deborah, arose; arose a mother in Israel." Deborah was a prophetess and a judge in ancient Israel. Her leadership role and authority in guiding the nation can be seen as an example of how women can play a significant role in matters of governance and succession.

In the New Testament, in the book of Luke 1:32-33, an angel announces to Mary, "He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, and he will reign over Jacob's descendants forever; his kingdom will never end." This scripture can be seen as an indication that Jesus' inheritance and authority are derived from his maternal lineage, as he is said to be a descendant of David through his mother Mary

You just confirmed again that Mary is from the Tribe of Judah therefore she can't be from the Tribe of Levi!

Case closed!

How did Mohammed and Allah mix up Mariam the daughter of Imran with Mary the mother of Jesus?

I quoted from your bible in respect to your request to show a scriptural proof of matrileneal succession lines. In any case Jesus did not have a human father, would it not then be a scriptural lie to claim a lineage from a father who is not his.
Islam however differs from Christianity in that Mary was never married.

TenQ:

You just confirmed again that Mary is from the Tribe of Judah therefore she can't be from the Tribe of Levi!

Case closed!

How did Mohammed and Allah mix up Mariam the daughter of Imran with Mary the mother of Jesus?

There is no mix up. The Mary is a daughter of a an exalted person Joachim and the Mother of Jesus.

There appears to be a referrence to Heli in your Bible another name for Joachim however the Bible isn't explicit about the parents of Mary

TenQ:

You just confirmed again that Mary is from the Tribe of Judah therefore she can't be from the Tribe of Levi!

Case closed!

How did Mohammed and Allah mix up Mariam the daughter of Imran with Mary the mother of Jesus?

Ohyoudidnt:
Yes, however note that Allah chose Adam and Noah and the descendants of Abraham and of ‘Imran above all mankind.

Your lack of understanding of History is appalling sir.

1. All present day humans are descendants of Adam
2. All present day humans are descendants of Noah
3. All Jews are descendants of Abraham
4. Imran is just one person from the Tribe of Levi and the father of Moses, Aaron Aaron and Miriam.
5. Levites are the Priestly tribe such that Zachariah as a Levites is a priest but not necessarily a descendant of Amram.
6. The high priest must come from the descendant of Aaron (not even Amram) as the descendants of Moses are not eligible for the office.

It seems that Allah and his prophet didn't realize
If God chose Abraham descendant it involves the Jews
The Descendants of Amram are also Jews .

If it is true that Allah chosen the Jews Above all mankind's?
Why does Allah now want to exterminate the same Jews?

Ohyoudidnt:
I quoted from your bible in respect to your request to show a scriptural proof of matrileneal succession lines. In any case Jesus did not have a human father, would it not then be a scriptural lie to claim a lineage from a father who is not his.
Islam however differs from Christianity in that Mary was never married.

This was because he had no human father!
And the Messiah was supposed to come from the line of David(Judah). This was why Matthew used the traditional lineage line through Joseph to David while Luke used the lineage of Mary also through David.

Do you know any other human being in this category who has no father but has a mother?

Ohyoudidnt:
There is no mix up. The Mary is a daughter of a an exalted person Joachim and the Mother of Jesus.

There appears to be a referrence to Heli in your Bible another name for Joachim however the Bible isn't explicit about the parents of Mary

Conjectures of "appears to be" does not solve the problem of the ignorance of Allah and His prophet Muhammad!

Since Allah knows that Miriam and Mary are different : and that Mary is from the Tribe of Judah. Why did he not say Mary is the daughter of David or Judah which would have made some sense!

How did Mohammed and Allah mix up Mariam the daughter of Imran with Mary the mother of Jesus?

May Allah be merciful unto you.
It is in order to say appears to be as you have agreed different people wrote the bible and we cannot be absolutely sure of their motives and meanings.

“… we may follow the opinion of other scholars who maintained that Jacob (Joseph’s father) had died young and that Joseph became a quasi-adopted son of Heli/Joachim through his marriage to the Virgin – for this reason, then, Joseph is called son of Heli.

https://sanctanomina.net/2015/09/17/marys-genealogy-and-joachim-and-eli/

TenQ:

Conjectures of "appears to be" does not solve the problem of the ignorance of Allah and His prophet Muhammad!

Since Allah knows that Miriam and Mary are different : and that Mary is from the Tribe of Judah. Why did he not say Mary is the daughter of David or Judah which would have made some sense!

How did Mohammed and Allah mix up Mariam the daughter of Imran with Mary the mother of Jesus?

How were the offspring of raped jewish women who didn't know their rapist treated?
I will appreciate you explaining.
TIM16:1 He also came to Derbe and to Lystra. A disciple named Timothy was there, the son of a Jewish woman who was a believer, but whose father was a Greek

TenQ:

This was because he had no human father!
And the Messiah was supposed to come from the line of David(Judah). This was why Matthew used the traditional lineage line through Joseph to David while Luke used the lineage of Mary also through David.

Do you know any other human being in this category who has no father but has a mother?

Ohyoudidnt:
May Allah be merciful unto you.
It is in order to say appears to be as you have agreed different people wrote the bible and we cannot be absolutely sure of their motives and meanings.

“… we may follow the opinion of other scholars who maintained that Jacob (Joseph’s father) had died young and that Joseph became a quasi-adopted son of Heli/Joachim through his marriage to the Virgin – for this reason, then, Joseph is called son of Heli.

https://sanctanomina.net/2015/09/17/marys-genealogy-and-joachim-and-eli/

Is David the king of Israel a descendant of Aaron?

Ohyoudidnt:
How were the offspring of raped jewish women who didn't know their rapist treated?
I will appreciate you explaining.
TIM16:1 He also came to Derbe and to Lystra. A disciple named Timothy was there, the son of a Jewish woman who was a believer, but whose father was a Greek

Timothy was treated as a Greek as he had a Greek father even though his mother was a Jew. Therefore, Timothy was not circumcised as a baby on the eight day as required by the Law of Moses for Jews.

Gen 17:12:
"And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of your seed."

Because Paul and Timothy were going to the temple in Jerusalem, Paul compelled the ADULT Timothy to be circumcised (because of the Jews)

Acts 16:1-3:
"Then came he to Derbe and Lystra: and, behold, a certain disciple was there, named Timotheus, the son of a certain woman, which was a Jewess, and believed; but his father was a Greek: Which was well reported of by the brothers that were at Lystra and Iconium. Him would Paul have to go forth with him; and took and circumcised him because of the Jews which were in those quarters: for they knew all that his father was a Greek."


You may need to explain why Timothy was not circumcised on the eight day if he was seen as a Jew.

TenQ:

Timothy was treated as a Greek as he had a Greek father even though his mother was a Jew. Therefore, Timothy was not circumcised as a baby on the eight day as required by the Law of Moses for Jews.

Gen 17:12:
"And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of your seed."

Because Paul and Timothy were going to the temple in Jerusalem, Paul compelled the ADULT Timothy to be circumcised (because of the Jews)

Acts 16:1-3:
"Then came he to Derbe and Lystra: and, behold, a certain disciple was there, named Timotheus, the son of a certain woman, which was a Jewess, and believed; but his father was a Greek: Which was well reported of by the brothers that were at Lystra and Iconium. Him would Paul have to go forth with him; and took and circumcised him because of the Jews which were in those quarters: for they knew all that his father was a Greek."


You may need to explain why Timothy was not circumcised on the eight day if he was seen as a Jew.

I find that there is also Titus who wasn't circumcised. Does this then mean some acts of worship apply to some people that believe in your God and not to others? Why the obvious and deliberate segregation? Is this not a religious case of racism? Only Jews are to partake of the covenant of Abraham!

Why then is Abraham called the father of nations? If for some reason you are not circumcised on the 8th day does this then eliminate a need for it? Abraham was not 8 days when he was circumcised.

You ignored the question of raped jewish women or girls who got pregnant as a result of rape. How are their children 's lineage established?

Ohyoudidnt:


I find that there is also Titus who wasn't circumcised. Does this then mean some acts of worship apply to some people that believe in your God and not to others? Why the obvious and deliberate segregation? Is this not a religious case of racism? Only Jews are to partake of the covenant of Abraham!

Why then is Abraham called the father of nations? If for some reason you are not circumcised on the 8th day does this then eliminate a need for it? Abraham was not 8 days when he was circumcised.

You ignored the question of raped jewish women or girls who got pregnant as a result of rape. How are their children 's lineage established?

What did the bible say about raped Jewish women? I don't know!

Ishmael was circumcised by Abraham!
Was your prophet Mohammed circumcised?

motayoayinde:


NOPE.
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STOP WASTING YOUR TIME. 😊

This is a deluded fellow. You keep decieving yourself about the expansion of islam. Can you show your evidence? Killing of Apostates is what is keeping Islam, the day the law is prohibited all over Muslim countries, Islam collapses that very day. Muslim leaders are crying in Pakistan, Iran is moving away from Islam. Muslim leaders are talking about tsunami and avalanche of apostasy coming. Mention where Christians are trooping into Islam the way you described it as "in droves".