JMAN05:

Why do u ask?

FlipGamBino:
@Sarassin, quick one, I have been reading the vedas for a bit now and i wanted to ask, the texts, "not the prayers" here are they read literally or they are deliberately made obscure in print, i have an English translated version here. how are you?

Ubenedictus:
CURIOUSITY

JMAN05:


Its obvious.

JMAN05:


Not all I ve read bits of each tho. I mostly read when the need arise. But before I gave my reply above I did the reading of the fragment of Papias, read Polycarp's letter, parts of Clement writings. I have those, if not all of them in my digital lib, so I read them when there is need. I have not had a personal research project to read all there writings.

Ubenedictus:
I am suprised you accuse the ebonites of heresy! There is an irony there. The ebonites were a group that rejected d divinity of Jesus, a trait u share... That was their major heresy! If u are calling d ebonite heretics then some fingers are pointing back at you.

JMAN05:


Paul and his writings are false. Clinging to the mosaic, those who look at Jesus as a mere man sprung by natural generation frm Joseph nd Mary. Those are the people u expect me to accept jst because they reject d divinity of Christ?

So if for eg, I share one particular belief with a sect, am wrong to call them heretics? Is that catholic view or bible's view?

Ubenedictus:
some also blive dat Jesus was an archangel! D similarities just interesting. They were classed as heretics mainly cos of d belief u guys share.

those who observe the Mosaic Law for themselves, but do not require observance thereof from others; and those who hold it of universal obligation. The latter are considered heretical by all; but with the former St. Justin would hold communion

JMAN05:


Ur brain is still on default. My classifying them as heretics is not the same with urs or ur church's.

They rejected Paul's writing they still stock to the mosaic law.

See wat ur encyclopedia said about whom u guys term saint Justin:



Do u now see the main reason for there being regarded universally heretics? I wonder where u got this ur lies from. Among this Ebionites some are seen as being more catholic, yet not orthodox.
U just want me to start making analysis now. Very soon ur brothers will fly from who knows where to say I search the internet to criticise there church. Don't just start cos u might be surprised that ur church may be more guilty in terms of similarity.

But then, if u view the ebionites as true xtians, that's the catholic training u had that is at work. It is ur right to accept. But as for me and my household, they are heretics. I hope I have that right?

Ubenedictus:
that was before the canon was made. Rejecting this or that book at the time didnt make anyone a heretic. Whole churches rejected revelation, other hebrew others 2pt...the list continue. That doesnt immediately make one a heretic.

lol, if u want to post condemned similarities be my guest I'll be waiting, but I do know that rejection of d divinity of Christ is/was a condemned heresy u guys share. It gets more interesting when we look at the other heretical sects that rejected d divinity of Jesus.

ace1:
Considering the close relationship between Jesus and Peter, why is there no gospel account of Peter in the bible?

Sarassin:


Hi FlipGamBino, I am very well thanks. Depending on the volume you are studying the commentary (Brahmana) is meant to be a literal read but for the most part they are discourses, they are not deliberately made obscure although a little something is lost in rendering it from Sanskrit.

"WHEN THE WISE MAN POINTS AT THE MOON,
THE FOOL LOOKS AT HIS FINGER!" - Confucius.

"THE HINDU VEDAS CONTAIN TWELVE FALSE DATUMS
FOR EVERY TRUTH THAT THEY TELL!" - The Perception of Truth Lectures, by L. Ron Hubbard.

oaroloye:
SHALOM!





There are said to be about 100,000 Vedas.



INSTEAD OF READING "VEDAS," WHY DON'T YOU LEARN TO CONSULT THE AKASHIK RECORDS, SO THAT YOU CAN KNOW THE PERSONS WHO WROTE THE VEDAS, and not just their Leftover Garbage?

Sarassin:


There are four Vedas.

oaroloye:


No, sorry: you are correct. I got that wrong.

The four Vedic Collections are: RIG Veda, SAMA Veda, YAJUR Veda, and ATHARVA Ved.

100,000 stanzas in the Vedas?

Is that what i should have said?

Ubenedictus:
jman05, U claim those guys are heretics for rejecting scriptures, the question is, who decleared those as scripture and when?

JMAN05:


Like I said previously, my use of the word heretic must not tally with your own meaning. If someone rejects an inspired word of God, he is not a heretic by ur catholic training.

If you dont think rejecting inspired word of God made one a heretic, that is so sad, because the scriptures do not agree with you.

Peter spoke of heretics (2Peter 2:1), and condemned those who reject Paul's letters. (2Peter 3:15, 16). The book of revelation spoke against adding or removing from the visions therein. How much more of those who reject the entire letter? My definition of heretic is not the same with yours. You can hold on to what you are taught, the scriptures I follow.

What about holding to the Mosaic law? That does not make them heretic too. ndo!



This people were primarily known as heretics cos of sticking to Mosaic law, not archangel issue. Do you now agree?

You want us to start debating similarities bah? And your eyes didnt that your saint can dine with this people, that some of there beliefs are termed catholic (I should start listing them shey?), that ur vulgate matthew is a corruption that ebionites also used? You think I have that time? And u want the similarity condemned by ur church? Chai!

The point here is this: That similarities doesnt mean a thing. You do have some similarities with other churches you consider heretics, does that make you agree to be a heretic?

Even Judaisers believe in God, and agree in some respects to the christians, but this does not exempt them from being heretics. But of course, your church has a different way of identifying heretics which are not scriptural.

If you disagree with this, pls live with it. Me and my household agree with that. Why must I be a doctor to ur ailment?

Ubenedictus:
jman05, U claim those guys are heretics for rejecting scriptures, the question is, who decleared those as scripture and when?