Can a true muslim leave islam? Take a look at this

Re: Can A True Muslim Leave Islam?

No.

do u want him to get killed?

A true muslim will never leave Islam. Those convertee are majorly through one problems or the other, be financial, spiritual, physical deformation and the likes and since there is no proper understanding of their religion, they seek for solution anywhere.

n_o_e_t_ic:

do u want him to get killed?

for what?

Can A True Muslim Leave Islam?
No!!, a true Muslim cannot leave Islam,or he will be beheaded.

Horus:

Can A True Muslim Leave Islam?
No!!, a true Muslim cannot leave Islam,or he will be beheaded.

If he had beheaded someone after he converted.

littleb:

for what?

there is no objectivity in denial. You will be better respected if u address issues rather than deny them.

You can start by saying that while this practice happens, it is unislamic. and then u proceed to quote ur koran and hadith to butress ur points.
dont come here to start denying islamic conventional norms.

Can a true muslim leave islam?
No!

But Islam can leave him though

Morpheus, u muslim?

A true Muslim can never be deceived by the 'world'

babs787:

A true Muslim can never be deceived by the 'world'

what makes a true muslim? a wahabbi? a sufi?

the concept of true muslim or true "insert religious adherent" is relative considering the divisions among these religious. of course it can be easily argued that a true muslim doesn't partake in such division.

considering the infinite and complex nature of this perfect "allah" it would be ignorant to think the truth is unique to only one religion.

Oga,have you not raised similar issue in another thread where I provided answers and asked you to explain some terms in atheism and agnostic but you never did till today. Do one keep explaining to you afterall,you are more intelligent than Davidylan

what makes a true muslim? a wahabbi? a sufi?

Niether Wahabbi nor sufi never ever make a true muslim. A true muslim is defined as someone who is totally subsmissive to Allah almighty as commanded in the Quran and,

babs787:

A true Muslim can never be deceived by the 'world'

@post :

Yes, but he will do it secretly otherwise the Jihadist will behead him or her.

@ t.truth,

I will continue laffing at ur posts

@ Topic,

A Muslim is one who submits to God's Will.

There are many types Muslims either by Name,by parental/ friend influence and by having sound knowledge of the religion. They all can leave Islam due to one reason or the other except the one that has sound knowledge of the religion.
No matter the case maybe a Muslim that has knowledge of Islam will never leave Islam.

True talk my sister

alimat 2:

@ Topic,

A Muslim is one who submits to God's Will.

Really ? Muhammedan Islam is NOT A RELIGION BUT A SATANIC MUHAMMEDAN CULT.

Another point of correction; A muslim is the one who submit to the will of Saudi Black Stone. There are lots of Imams and Islamic scholars who ran away from that satanic cult called Muhammedan Islam.

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And i will laff again ,

I will never insult ur god or ur believe but will continue laffing at ur posts ,

Keep laughing!
U dare nt insult ALLAH

Confussion

can a true muslim leave islam

yes
i have proof of several true muslims one of them inline to be imam of his family mosque leave islam and its contradictions and is now an evangelist

^^^^,
i am also a Prove when i did not hav knowledge of Islam i went to church and called Jesus my God nd saviour but as Almighty God so much loves me he showed me the way back to Islam .

Reasons due to confussion in d christiandom

Jehova witness will Say no Trinity, other churches will call them non-xtians,
Celestial/ C$S churches =Their fellow xtians will say they are not xtians but ritualist

Deep life church =Other churches will say their doctrine is too strict,
Tb Joshua          =Other xtians call him insturment of devil
some xtians will say jesus is God while some will say he is not God.

so which one are we to follow?

If a muslim lack knowlegde of islam he will surely be deceived with JEsus is your lord and personal saviour nd leaves islam if problems arise.

ayanrin:

Keep laughing!
U dare nt insult ALLAH

salam Brother,

shine ur eyes b4 posting

alimat 2:

^^^^,
i am also a Prove when i did not hav knowledge of Islam i went to church and called Jesus my God nd saviour but as Almighty God so much loves me he showed me the way back to Islam .

Reasons due to confussion in d christiandom

Jehova witness will Say no Trinity, other churches will call them non-xtians,
Celestial/ C$S churches =Their fellow xtians will say they are not xtians but ritualist

Deep life church =Other churches will say their doctrine is too strict,
Tb Joshua =Other xtians call him insturment of devil
some xtians will say jesus is God while some will say he is not God.

so which one are we to follow?

If a muslim lack knowlegde of islam he will surely be deceived with JEsus is your lord and personal saviour nd leaves islam if problems arise.

you were never a christian in the first place you were "XTIAN" YOU NOTE THE DIFFERENCE?
EVANGELIST SHITTA was in line to be the imam of his family mosque before he became born again the name is quite popular so you can ask anyone in lagos who the shitta family is.

pastor hamzat(note he still retained his muslim name" is another example, he is presently pastoring a redeemed church in manchester

pastor mathew ashimolowo is another one,born a devout and strong moslem he currently heads the fastest growing ethnic minority chruch in uk
where are your own examples of notable pastors or men of GOD who converted to islam?
as for christianity with factions we both know islam has different factions as well,not only that we dont murder and bomb each other even if we disagree on doctrines like you do sunni bomb shia, wahhabis bomb shia e.t.c

ISLAM is my pride,till death and afterlife,will never get tired saying ALLAHU AKBAR,SUBHUANNALLAH,ALHAMDULLILAH,LAI ILLA ILLA ALLAH




and ofcourse

ASALAMU ALEKUM

@alimat2
salam sister
alright

alimat 2:

^^^^,
i am also a Prove when i did not hav knowledge of Islam i went to church and called Jesus my God nd saviour but as Almighty God so much loves me he showed me the way back to Islam .

Reasons due to confussion in d christiandom

Jehova witness will Say no Trinity, other churches will call them non-xtians,
Celestial/ C$S churches =Their fellow xtians will say they are not xtians but ritualist

Deep life church =Other churches will say their doctrine is too strict,
Tb Joshua          =Other xtians call him insturment of devil
some xtians will say jesus is God while some will say he is not God.

so which one are we to follow?

If a muslim lack knowlegde of islam he will surely be deceived with JEsus is your lord and personal saviour nd leaves islam if problems arise.

The muslim sects is even worst. The sunnis calls the shias kuffir. The wahhabis calls the sunnis infidels and a kuffir and so on,  Not only that, they also attack themselves and kill themselves brutally.

You are a gullible follower of that satanic cult. You know nothing about Islam and that satanic verses called the Quran. There are millions of muslim clerics, Imams and muslims who have converted to Christianity that I know, who are pastors, missionaries and evangelist.

nonsense

uplawal:

ISLAM is my pride,till death and afterlife,will never get tired saying ALLAHU AKBAR,SUBHUANNALLAH,ALHAMDULLILAH,LAI ILLA ILLA ALLAH




and ofcourse

ASALAMU ALEKUM

if you ask me as a criminologist i think you are starting to doubt your faith if not you wont be shouting it lool
its like a man shouting that he is not gay,meaning gayish thoughs keep on popping up in his mind,in your case christian thoughts keep popping up in your mind so you are shouting out for validation,dont worry its only a matter of time before you become totally arrested sister uplawal

I wonder if any of the other people followed the link.

This guy did what all muslims are supposed to do so how can you still say no?

To say no simply means you commit the No True Scotsman fallacy. In which you redefine a term (in this case "true muslim" to exclude anyone who carries out the mentioned action (i.e leaves the religion).

alimat 2:

^^^^,
i am also a Prove when i did not hav knowledge of Islam i went to church and called Jesus my God nd saviour but as Almighty God so much loves me he showed me the way back to Islam .

Reasons due to confussion in d christiandom

Jehova witness will Say no Trinity, other churches will call them non-xtians,
Celestial/ C$S churches =Their fellow xtians will say they are not xtians but ritualist

Deep life church =Other churches will say their doctrine is too strict,
Tb Joshua =Other xtians call him insturment of devil
some xtians will say jesus is God while some will say he is not God.

so which one are we to follow?

If a muslim lack knowlegde of islam he will surely be deceived with JEsus is your lord and personal saviour nd leaves islam if problems arise.

From the earliest days after the death of Muhammad, his followers split into very many sects. Most of these sects dissolved into oblivion; others persisted into modern times, yet more have had their influences continue; the following are only a sample:

1 Kharijites/Secedres: Who were the very first to split from 'mainline Islam' who believed that Ali should have been made Khalifa instead of Mua'wyia. Their ideas were puritanical, democratic and violent. The Wahabis of Arabia are their followers except that are not democratic but very violent and fundamentalist.


2 Murji'ites/: Those who postpone (Judgement till the Last Day). They were men who did not take life too seriously and were tolerant of human frailties and weaknesses; they believed that even a fornicator or a thief would not be debarred from Paradise if they believed in the unity of God. Their beliefs were the exact opposite of the Kharijites.


3 Shi'a/Party: While the Kharijites actually went against Ali, the Shi'a believe that Ali should have been the legitimate Khalifa and he and his two sons Hassan and Hussein are venerated as martyrs to 'Islam'. They are the believers in the legend of the Mahdi (similar to the Messiah) and the doctrine that there is an infallible Imam (Religious Leader) in every age to whom alone God entrusted the guidance of his servants and hence rejecting the principle of the concensus of the community. The Imam of the Shia becomes like the Pope in Catholicism: Divinely ordained, divinely inspired and the true successor of the prophet.


4 Mutazilites/Modernists: who claimed the right to judge revelations in the light of reason and the tenets of philosophy. The title means (Those who have withdrawn). This movement originated in the philosophical and theological ideas of Wasil bin Ata (699-749) which took roots especially under the Abbasid Caliphate of the ninth century. They held the belief that reason must play a role in the Muhammadan's encounter with Allah. They even went against orthodox teachings by declaring that the Quran was created and that the dogma of predestined humanity is neither moral nor logical.


5 Ahmadiyah: The most recent sect in 'Islam' as founded in 1908 by Gulam Ahmad al Qadiani in India. It has revolutionary concepts which challenge most of the theological interpretations of the Quran by the other sects since it disapproves of Jihad, does not accept that Muhammad is the last prophet, the mediaeval Ulama need not be followed in the interpretation of the Quran and Hadith, etc.

6 Qadarites: They rejected the precept that Man is pre ordained and believe that he has Free Will.

The above are only the more important sects among thosands more. They too fell into divisiveness, internal blood letting, 'brotherly' hatred and mutual destruction.