The Church and Job creation....

The more we have churches preaching about 'having everything or you are nothing', the more we see competition, the more private jets are purchased, more private universities, increased crime rates, odd and obscene news here and there....

An idle mind is the devil's workshop, we don't need more churches competing for members and bragging rights of largest church auditorium or having the most branches everywhere. People need jobs, need power, need education....God doesn't live in houses built by man's hand Acts 7:48 (depends on the God u serve)

Imagine if the church camp grounds which mostly cover a very large expanse of land were used as Farms for (food, solar power arrays, wind farms), imagine the jobs we could create, the families we could provide for, the hands we could make busy, and the crimes we could reduce....

If you have a little gathering of people in your house in the name of God, that is also enough, serving God is a spiritual thing not all the physicalities we have turned it to be...(1 timothy 6.6). Godliness with contentment is great gain.

Sometimes some people say the west (English) have lost their love for God, that they have turned their churches to pubs, that they brought christianity to Africa, and we are trying to bring it back to them, to save them.......Really

It does not seem like they need to be saved, here in England, we in Nigeria do....

The church could play a better role in people's lives, much more than providing them with something to believe in about life after now, but also start creating a better life for people here. Not just saying to the members go and be blessed, but do what they can to create this Jobs that would benefit more people. (James 2;16) It states of what good are you if you tell your brother go in peace, stay blessed, but do nothing.

We need to emancipate ourselves from the mental slavery that divides us and subjects us to selfish, vain-seeking, collective ignorance and negligence. We need to be united irrespective of religion tribe or creed to help ourselves, because there will be no need of any churches or mosques no matter how many they are or how beautiful they are built if the roads leading to them are unsafe, paved with robbers etc, or if members are subjected to compulsory fasting not of their own will but due to hardship.

This is not about, this church or that church, this religion or that religion, but this is call for...

Unity Faith Peace and Progress.

True talk Brother i guess people will come in here to attack you, well the truth they say is bitter, alot of whares house being converted to churches shouting for people to pay thithes, where do they want them to get this 10%? God help us.

peeceelove2:
True talk Brother i guess people will come in here to attack you, well the truth they say is bitter, alot of whares house being converted to churches shouting for people to pay thithes, where do they want them to get this 10%? God help us.

That's it brother.....

My brother this is the reason why I don't go to Church anymore and becoming more and more agnostic..

It does not make any sense, why should a Pastor have a private jet that cost him atleast $50 Million, then he goes of to have 2.

now lets put this into perspective, if Oedepo had used atleast 30% of the $100 Million he used to buy his jets.

he could have built a worldclass Skills acquisition center, in actual skills like Software development and Electrical Embedded production.

This would actually bring skills that are needed in and outside Nigeria..



But his supporters are brainwashed into thinking buying 2 private jets is God's work

FOOLS

Sibe007:
The Church and Job creation....

Imagine if the church camp grounds which mostly cover a very large expanse of land were used as Farms for (food, solar power arrays, wind farms), imagine the jobs we could create, the families we could provide for, the hands we could make busy, and the crimes we could reduce....

There are vast expanse of virgin land all over nigeria, tell your government to create effective policies to harness it.

If you have a little gathering of people in your house in the name of God, that is also enough, serving God is a spiritual thing not all the physicalities we have turned it to be...(1 timothy 6.6). Godliness with contentment is great gain

The above shows you are ignorant of the things of God. The scripture you quoted is talking about material contentment. Is this the first time you are touching the bible? Didn't read that Peter preached and 3000 people were added to the church and she continued to grow?

Sometimes some people say the west (English) have lost their love for God, that they have turned their churches to pubs, that they brought christianity to Africa, and we are trying to bring it back to them, to save them.......Really

It does not seem like they need to be saved, here in England, we in Nigeria do....

The church could play a better role in people's lives, much more than providing them with something to believe in about life after now, but also start creating a better life for people here. Not just saying to the members go and be blessed, but do what they can to create this Jobs that would benefit more people. (James 2;16) It states of what good are you if you tell your brother go in peace, stay blessed, but do nothing.

We need to emancipate ourselves from the mental slavery that divides us and subjects us to selfish, vain-seeking, collective ignorance and negligence. We need to be united irrespective of religion tribe or creed to help ourselves, because there will be no need of any churches or mosques no matter how many they are or how beautiful they are built if the roads leading to them are unsafe, paved with robbers etc, or if members are subjected to compulsory fasting not of their own will but due to hardship.

This is not about, this church or that church, this religion or that religion, but this is call for...

Unity Faith Peace and Progress.

vladimiros:
My brother this is the reason why I don't go to Church anymore and becoming more and more agnostic..

It does not make any sense, why should a Pastor have a private jet that cost him atleast $50 Million, then he goes of to have 2.

now lets put this into perspective, if Oedepo had used atleast 30% of the $100 Million he used to buy his jets.

he could have built a worldclass Skills acquisition center, in actual skills like Software development and Electrical Embedded production.

This would actually bring skills that are needed in and outside Nigeria..



But his supporters are brainwashed into thinking buying 2 private jets is God's work

FOOLS

And who told you that he doesn't do charity or perform his coporate social responsibility?

Folks like you would commend people like Dangote who probably has more than 2 jets and sales his goods at exploitative prices.

But a simple MOG who has two jets to keep up with his busy evangelistic schedule, is a subject of bashing.

As a matter of fact God is not done with him, more jets are coming.

paulGrundy:


And who told you that he doesn't do charity or perform his coporate social responsibility?

Folks like you would commend people like Dangote who probably has more than 2 jets and sales his goods at exploitative prices.

But a simple MOG who has two jets to keep up with his busy evangelistic schedule, is a subject of bashing.

As a matter of fact God is not done with him, more jets are coming.

one of the brainwashed members here defending a man who used his offering to buy a private jet

keep giving him your money while he fools you with the promise of everlasting life

i pity my people

paulGrundy:


And who told you that he doesn't do charity or perform his coporate social responsibility?

Folks like you would commend people like Dangote who probably has more than 2 jets and sales his goods at exploitative prices.

But a simple MOG who has two jets to keep up with his busy evangelistic schedule, is a subject of bashing.

As a matter of fact God is not done with him, more jets are coming.

You are a disgrace to humanity..

vladimiros:


one of the brainwashed members here defending a man who used his offering to buy a private jet

keep giving him your money while he fools you with the promise of everlasting life

i pity my people

Proudly a fool for Jesus

And just so you know, am happy that my money is being used to spread the gospel, as a matter of fact am obliged to give more.

paulGrundy:


Proudly a fool for Jesus

And just so you know, am happy that my money is being used to spread the gospel, as a matter of fact am obliged to give more.

[size=13pt]you are also Proud that your money is used to buy a Bombadier Gulf Stream G650 which costs about $60 Million..

while Bill gates does not even have a private jet


between Bill Gates and OYedepo who do you think is busier

Men of God have used Religion to hypnotize our Youths yet they still defend them..

shame on my country[/size]

You don't know how to tell lies, where do I start from?

vladimiros:


[size=13pt]you are also Proud that your money is used to buy a Bombadier Gulf Stream G650 which costs about $60 Million..

The cost of the first and second jets range around $13-15million.

while Bill gates does not even have a private jet

Another lie, bill gates owns a Bombardier BD-700 Global Express that cost $40 million and seats up to 19 people.

between Bill Gates and OYedepo who do you think is busier

Do you think oyedepo does just pastoring alone?

Men of God have used Religion to hypnotize our Youths yet they still defend them..

shame on my country[/size]

You are the one who is hypnotized.

paulGrundy:
You don't know how to tell lies, where do I start from?



The cost of the first and second jets range around $13-15million.



Another lie, bill gates owns a Bombardier BD-700 Global Express that cost $40 million and seats up to 19 people.




Do you think oyedepo does just pastoring alone?



You are the one who is hypnotized.

The brsinwashing is strong with this one.

His other business is owning schools with Church funds

Secondly Bills jets were bought by Microsoft, he had none before that.

The fact in a country with a very low gdp per capita one of it biggest pastors has 2 private jets is a fucking joke

vladimiros:


The brsinwashing is strong with this one.

His other business is owning schools with Church funds

Secondly Bills jets were bought by Microsoft, he had none before that.

The fact in a country with a very low gdp per capita one of it biggest pastors has 2 private jets is a fucking joke

And you see nothing wrong with that same country having the richest man in Africa, who does little charity and exploits vulnerable poor?

Your values are skewed.

paulGrundy:


And you see nothing wrong with that same country having the richest man in Africa, who does little charity and exploits vulnerable poor?

Your values are skewed.

Aliko is a capitalist, what he wishes to do with his money is his problem.

but when you call yourself a fighter for christ and use church money to live a bling lifestyle, thats fvcked up

vladimiros:


Aliko is a capitalist, what he wishes to do with his money is his problem.

but when you call yourself a fighter for christ and use church money to live a bling lifestyle, thats fvcked up

I wish you could say the same for dominion ministries aka winners chapel.
Why is it bothering you? Is it because you don't believe in what they preach?