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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by yommytino(m): 1:56pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
The other time it was drivers that striked, this time around it will be car owners Uber/Bolts Car Owners Association 5 Likes |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Felicity0001: 2:03pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
MrCarter577: Its a fare price. Enjoy it bro. Thought its good you update trip destination for security reasons. Most importantly let the rider update from his end... Bolt can act funny some times... Rider can report trip and your account can be blocked permanently. Got it. 1 Like |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Advision: 2:07pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
CheerfulGiver: I have been involved in the business since the days of Romeo the celebrity driver. I think he reinvented himself with a profile here. Let's not measure balls here, I have been involved in this business when 40-45k was still the norm (around 2014). I maintain very residual interest in it, even at that I am not sure what you think you can sch me in. 4 Likes |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Blackbishop(m): 2:07pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
izzou: Check this out, you have 4 cars on the platform delivering 25k weekly that is 100k per week, as a business man you are not putting your home expenses on it. Per month you have 400k steady and you have up to par cars no weekly wahala. So according to Dru he only run services and not major repair in 6 months that is 2.4milla. servicing and the minor repairs coat him 300k for the six months on all his cars that is a balance of 2.1milla left. So as a business man he his making more profit. 8 Likes |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by CheerfulGiver: 2:08pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
IFSHR:
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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by CheerfulGiver: 2:10pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
Advision:Have you driven a car for 6 straight months? That's what I want to find out. 1 Like |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by IFSHR: 2:10pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
[quote author=CheerfulGiver post=103834786][/quote] It's either you are guilty of this or you are not... absolutely not my headache. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by IFSHR: 2:11pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
How much the driver makes with a car on rental is not the business of the car owner.. the problem is not the earning, the problem is the contract details used, and the man management prowess of the car owner.... The average car owner don't know anything about the business, and their failure starts from asking for just any rental agreement contract, they modify the name and validate the contract without personalising it to fit their preference and what they are offering..imagine a landlord in VGC using same tenancy agreement with a landlord in Akute e.t.c. Your rental agreement must represent the current economy and projected economy of the business (if not you will complain and cry every-time) Secondly, Rental implies giving out/transfering possession of a particular thing (not ownership) to a second party for use in return for an agreed fee, termed rental fee) the returns generated from the use of the item is basically the rentee largese and by law in return he is expected to pay the agreed rental fee to the renter .... So whether the rentee makes more than the rental fee that's his gain and if the rentee makes less than it, definitely his loss, anything other than this is just individual play of give and take. For instance: you rent out a house and the company makes a lot of money and you feel cheated, the legal thing to do is to activate the part of the contract which states the rental fee is open to renegotiation, but the question is how many of this rental contract have such provision (none that I have seen) Thirdly, under rental especially for an item that has depreciating or appreciating attribute there must always be a well stated plan of action, when it comes to maintenance and repairs, most of the rental agreement just indicate repairs and maintenance to be handled by owner (wrong move) some indicate that repairs below or above this amount (wrong move). Imagine renting a house and your bulb gets spoilt and you start disturbing your landlord (?). For car , there are two type of cost ...running cost and repair cost....running cost such as fueling, servicing, buying of battery, electrical fault ought to be handled by the driver, why repairs such as engine related, gear related and other high end expenses should be handled by the renter (ownership is not transferred) Renter (car owner) have every right to review his rental fee, very legal, that can be done reviewing the current earning possiblity, the current repair expenses, and you draw up your contract and table your offer to the rentee (driver) it's left for him to accept, reject or counter offer. (simple). Lastly, the man management skill, if you don't possess it, you have no business investing in this nature of business... You must be ready to hire, review, fire, and inspect....lack in any of those areas and you will cry bitterly... I will restate my point, any amount the driver makes out of the car is never the business of the car owner....if you want most of the earning to be yours as the owner, then what you have to do is employ drivers (I moove) 6 Likes |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by CheerfulGiver: 2:13pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
yommytino:I dare them. |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by CheerfulGiver: 2:13pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
IFSHR:Its headache enough for you to think that's how they do it. |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by CheerfulGiver: 2:14pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
Pearl1910:Or leave the money in a bank and collect 2% monthly 1 Like |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by IFSHR: 2:16pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
CheerfulGiver: It's a major one for you to spend all energy proving that no one does it.....speak for yourself oga ade 5 Likes |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Advision: 2:22pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
CheerfulGiver: I have managed cars actively on the platform for over 3 years. In all this while, I maintained an active bolt driver account I used during the weekends when the most money were on the table. Even without driving full time and having now retired since rentals and costs became unfavourable. No one can run the business profitably even on 25k rental right now using tokunbo cars, not even moove with their large fleet n economies of scale. Personally when, I understood the business better, I converted all my cars to hire purchase at 35k with 300k upfront. If there is something you think you can school me on, say it, I am listening. Dont tell you you have driven for longer than I have. 2 Likes |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by CheerfulGiver: 2:22pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
IFSHR:Oh I always do, with evidence. And always will |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by IFSHR: 2:24pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
CheerfulGiver: Are u asking for my permission, I can't remember telling you not to...Abi which one b plenty talk...egbami 3 Likes |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by dru23(m): 2:24pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
Blackbishop: But it is not easy at all .... Having good drivers plays a major part.. So this is why my rental is 25k ... Am not saying that my method will work for EVERYONE...... 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by CheerfulGiver: 2:26pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
Advision:You'ce not driven for straight 6 months. A simple no would have sufficed. The other conjunctions up there are a failed attempt to justify why you think 40k weekly is right. You've not done it. So you cant actually opine based on non personal weekly driving experience. Anyone that drives full-time will never advocate for 40k weekly. 4 Likes |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Bobbiet(m): 2:29pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
Good evening pilots.... I'm here with a knowledge seeking question. I'm based in Benin and I've been looking for a car to ride on e-hailing. So last week I went to a office and was offered a car with certain criteria to meet. About 60k deposit and 2 guarantors. I'll balance 8k daily, 6days a week. Car is strictly on rental. I'll be paid 50k monthly. Pilots in the house, is this a fair deal? Can I meet up in Benin? My target in raising enough money to get a decent Nigerian used car in less than 5months. |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by dru23(m): 2:30pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
Advision: I don't think new investors can make 25k currently especially on Tokunbo cars.... But old investors that have excess to cheap cars and forex will do ok ..... |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Felicity0001: 2:37pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
kanuisagoat: I thought I made myself clear already on how much is ok for married couple and singles... So where did you not understand? As a matter of fact 25k is very very much okay generally so pets not create any form of segregation. I read somebody said bolt has increase the fare, what kind of poor analysis is that? How much was fuel b4? Its reasonable to say owners should increase rental fee due to inflation on cost of purchase of cars and cost of repairs and parts but to say because of surge and N70/km is not a technical way to argue at all. Any owner that wants to rent at 30k and above should opt to hp and stop acting like you're doing the driver favour for his hard work by maintaining your own car. Mind you these drivers are only renting your car and no matter how long or how many years he uses the car on rental the car still belongs to you and not his so why should I rent a car for 30k and above? For what As as how na?! If it's HP then the driver knows he's working to get something at the end of the contract but how certain can a driver drive on rental to buy his own car? How possible can a man with responsibilities be able to save 2.5m to buy a corolla? So you guys should understand there's a large different btw rental and HP so why asking for same amount? Same owner on rental with a particular car for 3yrs wants 30k per week as one on HP, so tell me who is the selfish one here now? The renter The hirer Or the rentee? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by CheerfulGiver: 2:43pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
Bobbiet:its total bullshit 2 Likes |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Felicity0001: 2:44pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
hopefullight: See your mouth like 40k40k... Can you drive? Do you have a car on the platform or a prospective investors? I assure you you'll be frustrated out of the business in 3months without even making 50% of your capital if you continue in this mentality of yours. Take a uber job and see how far it is. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by LilX: 2:45pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
Felicity0001: Full stop 1 Like |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by LilX: 2:47pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
Felicity0001: I don't kill myself , I do what I can do, I'm on rental and I set my target, I'm not greedy to target 30k a day. I can send my dashboard here , once I make 10k net a day. I'm home , I save my strength and the car have less burden . 8 Likes |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Pearl1910: 2:48pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
dapotemi: I told u to go and learn Rentals/Lease. Owner doesn't employ Driver. Driver is renting the car. Abeg make una wey understand this guy language Interprete for am. If u want 100k weekly employ Driver pay him salary and give him KPIs. If he doesn't meet the targets u sack him. Just like u will be sacked if u aren't meeting up in ur office and u can never earn more than ur employer as an employee. The earlier u drop the reasoning that car owner is an employer of driver the faster u will understand and get a hold of the whole thing. 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Advision: 2:54pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
CheerfulGiver: You best argument to kicking against 40k ia that you have driven for 6 months. Bro, it holds no water here. I will provide you a basis for my own: Eatimates: Corrola 2006 toks: 2.5M Minor repairs before deplyment: 75k Total outlay: 2.6M **Running expense and income 1. 1st year total rental at 25k : 1200k for 12months (because its toks assume near 100% uptime) 2. Servicing every 2 months using the cheapest engine oil, oil filter: 15k per servicing (90k per year) 3. Shock absorber (35k _50k), brake parts, clutch (15-30k), tyres (30k) (twice a year at the least for a well maintained car: total is 210k) 4. Papers & comp. insurance (5%): 175k 5. Miscellaneous: 50k Net income to partner:1.2M - 100k -210k -175k -50k = 665k From year 2, I can bet the partner will not see 665k as car maintainance will start shooting up and he will not achieve 100% uptime. In essence even after 5 years at 25k he may not recover his capital talk less of profit, especially if a discount factor is applied to account for time value of money. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by hopefullight: 2:55pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
Felicity0001: To your quesrion, yes I can drive and I am also a Stakeholder in the industry. If you cannot drive it for 40k others will do it. Its dru that spoil people like u...25k weekly for a 2.5m car. @dru23: how many years does it take you to break-even on a car with 25k? 4 Likes |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by izzou(m): 2:59pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
Nothing concerns me with what the driver makes. My own take is that with the current reality we live in, 25k will not make any car owner break even Blackbishop, I understand the fact that Dru23 has a fleet. But what about those with just one Corolla? 100k a month and you spend a mandatory 10k plus to service. Let's not talk about if something major or minor goes bad. That's like taking 75k a month So at what point will the person recoup his 2.5 million, and start enjoying sara money? 4 Likes |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by dru23(m): 3:04pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
hopefullight: The Honda Civic 03 to 05, I try to buy them nothing more than N1.5m using exchange $1 to N500 .... I keep under 1.5m even under this Buhari exchange ..... What matters to me is as long as the business pays itself .... If I don't have to take out money to fix things than ok....... Again having good car and driver is at least 70% part for the business to succeed 3 Likes |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by izzou(m): 3:05pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
kanuisagoat: You can be actively involved. It depends on the arrangement. Partners collecting 25k are really trying. Especially those with just one car. I don't see how that's feasible 3 Likes |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Advision: 3:05pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
From a driver perspective. There was barely a weekend I didnt gross 40 - 50k (net at least 25k) even during the driest period. On public holidays/festivals, I can do 50k in 1 day if I drive morning and evenings. Mind you these figures where made morning and evenings only because I typically hate afternoon traffic and selcting only trips to areas I consider to have good roads. Morning rush (excluding bonus) 5am - 12noon, a driver can consistently make 8k net (Monday - Wednesday), slightly lower on Thursday and Fridays at atleast 4k net. Nb- I did not factor afternoon and evening weekdays because I almost never did drive by then. But even fron the drivers app, with the surge that comes up at peak afternoon and late in the evening, will the driver not make something? No serious driver should make less tha 60k net a week execpt under extraordinary circumstances. And if you make 60k and owner of the car collects 40k (2/3), it is not too much given that he owns the car, carries the risk of business failure and bares maintenance |
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by hopefullight: 3:05pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
dru23: With your 25k weekly in tokunbo cars, they will still insult you...Good driver or not 25k weekly is Not a recommendable business model. Kindly increase your weekly charges. 2 Likes |
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