Emperoh:

F A L S E!!!!!

Van Persie is a Flop;True or False?


Nah. . . .me no believe that. Ok Sauron Pls confirm the above claims. Muki Pls confirm this is truely Blue Diva

The Portuguese forward completed his world-record transfer to Real Madrid this week, and claims he can keep improving in Spain.

But he has hailed Ferguson for changing his game and making him more aware of his team-mates.

"It's obvious that I'm a less egotistical footballer now,'' he told Spanish sports daily AS. "Without a doubt. I know for sure that four years ago I always played to try to end up scoring myself.

"But experience makes you understand that you achieve better things playing as a team and being united. At Madrid they will see a better Cristiano.''

It is United coach Sir Alex Ferguson who Ronaldo credits with that transformation.

Ferguson splashed out £12.24million to bring the teenage Ronaldo to United from Sporting Lisbon in 2003 and in six years under the Scot's tutelage, he has developed into one of the best players on the planet.

"Ferguson is a maestro,'' added Ronaldo. "For me he was my father in football. He was crucial in my career and, outside football, was a great human being with me. Talent isn't everything. You can have it from the cradle, but it is necessary to learn the trade to be the best.

"When I arrived in England I was an 18-year-old kid and had established stars by my side. Ferguson taught me to clean up my faults, to know to give the pass at the last moment, to take the right decision in the area.

"I spent six years at United and I owe them everything that I am today. I made history at United and won many trophies. It was a pleasure to play at Old Trafford but now a new stage in my life is beginning at the Bernabeu with new challenges.

"I wanted to play at this club and for that reason I'm here.''

Ronaldo revealed it was his admiration and respect for Ferguson and United that prevented him from joining Madrid last year.

biina:

and now SAF attempts to repeat same with Obertan?

~Sauron~:

Why not?
It could be Obertan, Valencia or even Nani.

biina:

I beg, there is no evidence that SAF is good at either spotting talent, or nurturing it to world class level.
The only success story is Ronaldo, while there is a long list of 'still waiting to happen' and failed projects.
One can clearly see that CR is the exception and not the norm.

biina:

I beg, there is no evidence that SAF is good at either spotting talent, or nurturing it to world class level.
The only success story is Ronaldo, while there is a long list of 'still waiting to happen' and failed projects.
One can clearly see that CR is the exception and not the norm.

mukina2:

False shame nor catch you?

The guy looked so happy kissing the real badge, must have been terrible being a devil



True!!!!!

Owen is soured pap true or false?

~Sauron~:

Why not?
It could be Obertan, Valencia or even Nani.

What the fuc.k is that name doing there?
Did you dream about Nani allnight or what?

MrCrackles:

What the fuc.k is that name doing there?
Did you dream about Nani allnight or what?

mukina2:

False

Owen Hargreaves is the medical Assistant . .true or false?

Eastbay:

False,
Tomas Rosciky is.

~Sauron~:

Is it only Rosicky?
What about Eduardo and the other losers in Arsenal?
At least Owen Hargreaves helped his club win the Champions League/EPL in 2007/8.

~Sauron~:

Where is your retentive memory?

David Beckham
Paul Scholes
Ryan Giggs
Cristiano Ronaldo

What are those? Village-class level?

~Sauron~:

Is it only Rosicky?
What about Eduardo and the other losers in Arsenal?
At least Owen Hargreaves helped his club win the Champions League/EPL in 2007/8.

Helped the club in what capacity?
Provision of team talks via video link from the hospital bed or making up the numbers at OT so jersey digits can be fully allocated?
Which one Sharon?

biina:

Dont you have any idea of what a world class player is? Some examples might help: figo, zidane, Ronaldo de lima, Ronaldinho, kaka, Van basten, Cryuff, Maradona, Henry, Ruud, Maldini, etc
The likes of Beckham, Scholes and Giggs were very good players (just like Rooney still is) but were never at a world class level.
The fact that 3 players from the same generation of youth products were all you could come with proves my point.
What SAF has always been good at is building a coherent team that plays like a single unit. Under ferguson, ManU play like if they share a common presence of mind.
His numerous failed youth purchases like Bellion, Anderson, Nani and co, are evidence he is not the talent groomer.

MrCrackles:

Helped the club in what capacity?
Provision of team talks via video link from the hospital bed or making up the numbers at OT so jersey digits can be fully allocated?
Which one Sharon?

MrCrackles:

Helped the club in what capacity?
Provision of team talks via video link from the hospital bed or making up the numbers at OT so jersey digits can be fully allocated?
Which one Sharon?

biina:

Dont you have any idea of what a world class player is? Some examples might help: figo, zidane, Ronaldo de lima, Ronaldinho, kaka, Van basten, Cryuff, Maradona, Henry, Ruud, Maldini, etc
The likes of Beckham, Scholes and Giggs were very good players (just like Rooney still is) but were never at a world class level.

The fact that 3 players from the same generation of youth products were all you could come with proves my point.
What SAF has always been good at is building a coherent team that plays like a single unit. Under ferguson, ManU play like if they share a common presence of mind.

His numerous failed youth purchases like Bellion, Anderson, Nani and co, are evidence he is not the talent groomer.

Eastbay:

Barring Maldini,how many of the above listed players became world-class players in places where they were groomed?
If your argument is to be deemed consistent,you'd know that these players were raw and unpolished when they first started out.Of course,I don't expect you to accept since you're determined to say anything disparaging about United.

Eastbay:

Hargreaves was an integral part of the 2007/08 side.He scored a free-kick against your Gunners at OT .Hope you're not drunk already.it's too early for that.
somehow,i feel the dementia/memory loss that made you spew this is deliberate

~Sauron~:

Just like Biina, your retentive memory has been infected by a VIRUS.
Hargreaves played in the final of the UCL against Chelsea.
Didn't he also put his penalty kick away in a ruthless fashion?
I also remember him scoring the winner against Arsenal at OT to confirm GAYnner's 3rd TROPHYLESS season.
If John Terry had Hargo's composure, Chelsea woulda won the UCL that season.

Sharon you need to go back to rehab!
Like Esther_Eastbay, you are suffering from the after effects of caustic soda seepage into the brain
Can you justify the amount spent on Hargo with the meagre returns he has generated so far?
Is Hargo a wastepipe just like Berbatov OR not?

MrCrackles:


You are a flacid frog!
We are not talking about penalty kicks or bloody alcohol here. . . . . .Integral part of 07/08 my batty
Hargo is a wastepipe, if you dont agree then you mustav been brainwashed with caustic soda!

~Sauron~:

At this juncture, it will be fair to say you don't know what you are talking about.
So Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes are not world class players. . . . .If i dig out quotes, you will be forced to swallow your vomitus here.

By your blurry estimation, Ronaldo and Giggs are from the same generation?

Name one manager in the world who has not copped failed projects.

biina:

I didn't say those became world class at the club they were groomed, but if you want examples of such: maldini, Raul, baresi, totti, messi, xavi, casillas. . . . . . .

biina:

I didn't say those became world class at the club they were groomed, but if you want examples of such: maldini, Raul, baresi, totti, messi, xavi, casillas. . . . . . .

MrCrackles:

Sharon you need to go back to rehab!
Like Esther_Eastbay, you are suffering from the after effects of caustic soda seepage into the brain
Can you justify the amount spent on Hargo with the meagre returns he has generated so far?
Is Hargo a wastepipe just like Berbatov OR not?

biina:

No they are not. When was either of the two the eminent player for his position in the world?
Giggs was so exceptional that they had to give him the PFA player award as a retirement gift, while Scholes can only boast of a PFA player of the month

You need to get out of the mediocrity of your club.Is it that you cant comprehend English language, or you simply cant count up to three.
I said CR was the exception, and thus he cannot be counted twice. I simply ignored him on your list. There were only 3 players relevant to your argument on the list.

Not all of them are being touted as world class talent groomers by a fan. The real question is what is the success rate?
For example AW has had failed projects, yet he is far better than Ferguson at spotting budding talent.

biina:

@Sauron
ROTFLMAO
That list is simply hilarious.
A bunch of culled statement out of context from predominantly manU folks is what you have to show that he is a great player
What next, letters from his school teacher?

~Sauron~:

Hargreaves: Bought for 18 million pounds.
Debut season:
He won the UCL title(30 million)
He won the EPL title(50 million)
If he retires tonight, he has justified his price-tag.

Pathetic Sharon
Fractionate Owen Hargreave's input to both prize money amounts and dont give me some collective team effort result!
Will you agree that Ronaldo, Ferdinand and Rooney' collective contributions to winning the prizes above is well over 50%?
So how much did the "Hospital Assistant" contribute?

MrCrackles:

Pathetic Sharon
Fractionate Owen Hargreave's input to both prize money amounts and dont give me some collective team effort result!
Will you agree that Ronaldo, Ferdinand and Rooney contribution to winning the prizes above is well over 50%?
So how much does the "Hospital Assistant" contribute?

Eastbay:

biina,
thierry Henry,Glenn hoddle,Sam allardyce,Zidane,Shearer,Venables,Edgar Davids,Cesc Fabregas,Tony Adams,eidur gudjohnnsen,Patrick vieira cannot be United admirers by any stretch of the imagination.
That list is as wide in range as it possibly can be.

~Sauron~:

Some players don't like the lime-light. . . . . .How many times have you seen Scholesy name in the media apart from footballing issues?
He is so shy he rarely grants interviews so his skills were slept on.
I have provided quotes from Zidane, Lippi and many great players. If you can read well, you would admit i have made u look like a fool(again)!!!

What about Roy Keane? Mr English.
I have to assume there's a splinter in your sphincter. . . . . .
How many dynasties has SAF built at Man Utd? Considering the fact that many of his players in 92/93 are still playing for the club today.
It's as if you failed qualitative analysis as a child. . . . .It shows through the balderdash you spew week in week out.

What has AW won with his budding talents?
SAF won the league with kids in 95/96. . . . . .Tell us what AW has won with his KIDS.
U are a soccer-illiterate.