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Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by eunisam: 11:57pm On Oct 25, 2015 |
nice |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by SkyBlue1: 11:58pm On Oct 25, 2015 |
Rossikk: And there you go again with the condescending tone. Did not say ignore colonialism, said poor governance and bad leadership has had a major role to play with the lvel of underdevelopment in Nigeria, and not everything should be blamed on colonialism. |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by Rossikk(m): 12:04am On Oct 26, 2015 |
SkyBlue1: Do you think ''better leadership and governance'' drops from the sky? Or you think people are born with it? Nigeria is where it is at because of its HISTORY. Or are you saying God created us differently from other people? If so, then you are delving in the waters of esoteric superstition, inferiority complex and tomfoolery. Where a nation stands at any moment is where its history has placed it. If there was bad governance, it was because of our history. We were lumped together, various ethnicities, almost deliberately to fail. Consequently we suffered disunity, civil war, coups, military rule, nepotism, tribalism etc etc. Our 50 years or so of independence have not been enough time to correct those dysfunctionalities. Which is why we are still a developing nation. These are NATURAL effects of how we arose out of history. Things do not just happen. They happen for a reason. People like you just look at Brazil, or maybe Germany, and just think, ''Why can't we be like them? Something must be wrong with us!'' Is Germany's history the same as yours? Is Brazil's history the same as yours? Is Japan's history the same as yours? You also need to stop confusing people's understandable disappointments at the nation's progress and the way they might express that disappointment with inferiority complex. It is patronising. It IS inferiority complex if you are unwilling to examine the reasons for your nations' situation in a rational manner that doesn't assume that something is inherently wrong with the people of your country, or your race. |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by SPOPOVICH: 12:19am On Oct 26, 2015 |
u didnt have to mention SA, many countries in SSA are more devoped than naija. and why are people bashing congo, did you see the All Africa games, i dont think nigeria is more developed than Congo. DRC would probably be far ahead of naija if it was colonized by the british instead of Leopolds Belgium. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by SkyBlue1: 12:26am On Oct 26, 2015 |
Rossikk: Spare yourself the pain of conjecturing on what "people like me" think and focus on the points raised. I did not mention Germany or Japan or other such countries so why the headache? I did not say we should ignore history so again no need for that patronising and totally unecessary essay on the importance of history. I did not say something is inherently "wrong" with Nigerians so again, spare me the sermon it is tiring and unoriginal. I only pointed out what I still stand by, that with better government (which you have been so kind enough to teach us doesn't fall from the sky), Nigeria would be much more developed than it is. The country has missed opportunities for progress and that has had a huge impact on the level of underdevelopment we see, and no it isn't solely down to colonialism. I am sure if people go out next election cycle and sell their votes for a cup of rice you would solely blame it on colonialism. I just don't share your own brand of patriotism which says take no responsibility for your actions and blame everything on colonialism (in big text while you're at it). 4 Likes |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by Laird(m): 12:29am On Oct 26, 2015 |
I AM A MEDICAL DOCTOR AND I CAN BOLDLY SAY NIGERIA IS A FAILED COUNTRY NO STEADY ELECTRICITY NO GOOD ROADS SLUMS AND GHETTOS NO GOOD HOSPITALS STEALING OF REVENUE BY POLITICIANS LEADERS AND PEOPLE PURPOSELY IMPOVERISHING THEIR PEOPLE POLITICAL AND WORKER EXPLOITATION BY POLITICIANS AND EMPLOYERS NO GOOD PUBLIC HOSPITALS NO FREE OR VERY CHEAP HEALTH COVERAGE NO GOOD SALARIES FOR DOCTORS, NURSES,PHARMACISTS, LAB SCIENTISTS, POLICEMEN, TEACHERS, STREET CLEANERS, SEWAGE AND WASTE DISPOSAL WORKERS HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT HIGH COST OF DOING BUSINESS.BRIBERY, CORRUPTION HIGH LEVEL OF POVERTY INSUFFICIENT NUMBER OF UNIVERSITIES POOR QUALITY OF PUBLIC SCHOOLS EVEN MANY RICH PEOPLES CHILDREN LEAVE AND DO NOT PERMANENTLY RESIDE EVEN DOCTORS ARE LOOKING FOR GOOD JOBS NIGERIA CANNOT DEVELOP IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS EXCEPT LED BY A WHITEMAN STEALING OF TAX AND OIL AND REVENUE MEANT FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND PEOPLE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS LIKE SCHOOLS, HOSPITALS, ROADS, PENSION, GOOD SALARIES BY POLITICIANS, TOP GOVERNMENT BRASS, TRADITIONAL RULERS, BUSINESSMEN, NIGERIA IS ONLY ENJOYED BY THE SUPER RICH... GOVERNMENT, POLITICAL THIEVES, BIG TIME BUSINESS MEN, TOP CIVIL SERVANTS, PEOPLE WHO GOT FIXED IN BIG COMPANIES OR SET UP IN BUSINESS BY THEIR PARENTS OR FAMILY MEMBERS, RICH DEVELOPED COUNTRY RETURNEES, CORPORATE CRIMINALS POOR MORTGAGE SYSTEM BY MAJORITY OF NIGERIANS AND OVEREXPENSIVE HOUSING AND RENTS 95% OF NIGERIANS HAVE LOW PAYING JOBS EVEN FOR PROFESSIONALS LOW PAYING, UNSECURED, UNCERTAIN, ASS WIPING, ASS KISSING, BOOTLICKING JOBS RESULTING IN NIGERIA'S TALENT AND BRAINS, FOOTBALLERS, SPRINTERS, BOXERS, DOCTORS, ENGINEERS, PHARMACISTS, NURSES AND OTHER PROFESSIONALS LEAVING THE COUNTRY FOR BETTER PAY, BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE IF BRAIN SURGEON PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE BEN CARSON WERE TO BE BORN PRESENTLY IN NIGERIA TO A CLEANER MOTHER, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN A HAWKER OR CONDUCTOR BECAUSE NIGERIA HAS NO STUDENT LOANS FOR POOR STUDENTS TO GO TO SCHOOL HIGH DEPENCY AND BEGGING RATE BECAUSE IF ONE PERSON IS RICH AMONG 100000 PEOPLE, THAT PERSON WILL EITHER ISOLATE HIMSELF OR BE SUBJECT TO CONSTANT BEGGING BY THE WAY MY FOLKS ARE VERY WELL TO DO BUT STINGY AND SHARE THE SAME QUALITIES WITH NIGERIA POLITICIANS....GREEDY, STINGY, EXPLOITATIVE, POWER AND MONEY HUNGRY TRUTH BE SAID SO I WANT TO LEAVE NIGERIA EVEN PUBLIC HOSPITAL ADMINISTRATORS ARE CORRUPT 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by Rossikk(m): 12:34am On Oct 26, 2015 |
SkyBlue1: You lack basic common sense and are clearly afraid to call a spade a spade. COLONIALISM IS PART OF OUR HISTORY WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT. The very reason you are a Nigerian is because of colonialism. We have made progress BECAUSE we got rid of colonialism, or else we would be still massively underdeveloped today, going by the impotence of our colonial rulers, who did virtually nothing by way of developing this country. So we thank God for our independence. Why people would sell their votes for a cup of rice? Because of poverty, ignorance, and greed. These are all attributes of a developing state, and hence, state dysfunctionality. We are a dysfunctional state, like most nations on earth. That dysfunctionality arises from our history as a recently independent state with historical challenges. Your reasoning is like a child's. Your desire is to pretend we have no history, and that all nations started off on a clean, equal slate. That warped thinking then gives you leeway to conclude that the fault for our current underdevelopment must lie in our genes. I am here preventing you from reaching such asinine conclusions, which is why you are upset, albeit couching it in fake rational-speak. |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by SPOPOVICH: 12:39am On Oct 26, 2015 |
Ollombo international airport- Congo |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by SPOPOVICH: 12:45am On Oct 26, 2015 |
Ollombo International Airport - Congo better than all nigerias airports. img405/250/aerop6.png[/img] |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by SkyBlue1: 12:48am On Oct 26, 2015 |
Rossikk: Thank you from preventing me from reaching such "asinine conclusions" which I am yet to reach, but you obviously know my thoughts better than I do it seems. Now when you are done with your amusing rants on history of colonialism (which we all agree should not be ignored), educate us at what point the country should start taking responsibility for it's underdevelopment. I will not assume you would reach such an asinine conclusion that proposes we have no responsibility, no I will give you the courtesy of arriving at your own thoughts and perhaps read them tomorrow. What a child. 6 Likes |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by Rossikk(m): 12:58am On Oct 26, 2015 |
SkyBlue1: What a charlatan. We have taken responsibility since 1960 and continue to do so. But if you ask me WHY we are where we are today I WILL reel out our history starting at least from 1880 till date. UNLIKE YOU who thinks history is immaterial, and that our problem is our skin colour, race, the colour of the sky, or the moon, or some other (UNSTATED) fault. Why can't you be a man and say what you think is the reason we are not like Japan or Switzerland? Corruption? Tribalism? Ok, WHY are we having such problems? Greed, ignorance? Ok WHY are we having those problems? Answer!! Of course you will have no answer, because giving a reason grants us humanity, which you have been conditioned to deny us. When people like us discuss the fundamentals behind your nation's dysfunctionality, you close your ears and are insistent on your natural inferiority. Tragic. |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by SPOPOVICH: 1:21am On Oct 26, 2015 |
Luanda, Angola - The 'African Miami' (pics) https://www.nairaland.com/1525621/luanda-angola-african-miami-pics |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by Rossikk(m): 1:21am On Oct 26, 2015 |
SPOPOVICH: You really are not smart at all. You present 100 photos of ONE airport to ''prove'' that DRC is more developed than Nigeria. I mean, is it an IQ issue with some of you? What about their roads? How many functional airports do they have? How many universities do they have? How many megawatts do they generate and distribute? What is the size of their middle class? How fast is it growing? What is their income per capita? These are ways you measure development, not.....this. |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by SPOPOVICH: 1:31am On Oct 26, 2015 |
^^^^^^^ thats little congo (brazzaville) Airport is better than any in naija.. |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by SPOPOVICH: 1:43am On Oct 26, 2015 |
and these countries have just come out of civil wars, while naija was enjoying peace. |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by chinchum(m): 1:48am On Oct 26, 2015 |
Rossikk:your explanation dealt with the OP fallacy. Largest economy is not necessarily the best infrastructure or the finest or even the best human development index(HDI) . We must learn to put things in perspective and not sensationalise, USA is the largest economy in the world, but it does not have the best infrastructure , or the least poverty rate or the best HDI. |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by SPOPOVICH: 1:59am On Oct 26, 2015 |
Libreville 24 hours electricity. 1 Like
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Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by Rossikk(m): 2:03am On Oct 26, 2015 |
SPOPOVICH: So what? I could easily get you an airport in Abu Dhabi that beats any airport in Germany or the US. Does that mean UAE is more developed than Germany and the US? Olodo. |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by vodkat: 2:09am On Oct 26, 2015 |
Laird: that is the problem and also the whiteman thinks you are a monkey so why prove to them that they are correct? the whiteman is different becuase he is not always motivated by money and if he is motivated by money he provides value |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by Rossikk(m): 2:10am On Oct 26, 2015 |
SPOPOVICH: So what? Brazil and India lack 24 hrs electricity. I guess Gabon is more developed than those countries.. |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by Rossikk(m): 2:13am On Oct 26, 2015 |
Laird: [size=15pt]But Nigeria was ''led by a white man'' from 1897 to 1960 (63 years) and at the end, was an undeveloped bush with no power station, no proper roads, no industries, no university, and near zero infrastructure. In fact, given their near zero investment in education, chances are if they were still in power, you'd be a village farmer, a hunter, or a tailor today, not a medical doctor with the IQ of a mosquito.[/size] 1 Like |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by SPOPOVICH: 2:26am On Oct 26, 2015 |
Kigali Rwanda, completely destroyed more than a decade ago, clean and safe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMf7GTNTtZ4 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by tpiah11: 2:49am On Oct 26, 2015 |
NewNigeriaMind: These are fairly recent, right? |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by 14(m): 2:51am On Oct 26, 2015 |
oduastates: South Africa's budget is roughly $120Billion, and Nigeria's budget is $23Billion, see the gap. So any country has different ways to estimate their GDP. 1 Like |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by Lucasbalo(m): 5:18am On Oct 26, 2015 |
BOWOTO:Gbam. I remembered the first time I went to S/A with four colleagues of mine that were white on official duties. We came out of the airport in Jo'burg and was thinking am I in Africa. Incidentally, on our way to our hotel, one of my colleagues from Chicago asked me that are we in Africa ?. I said yes with smiles all over my face. S/A is hundreds of years ahead of Nigeria in development. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by ISpiksDaTroof: 5:51am On Oct 26, 2015 |
Rossikk: Yeah, yeah, yeah...whatever. Anybody with common sense knows that he's really comparing infrastructure. 1 Like |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by ISpiksDaTroof: 5:56am On Oct 26, 2015 |
Rossikk:So, from 1960 to date---especially from August, 1985-March, 2015 what have your leaders been doing with the proceeds the country earned? Where have they been investing it? The biggest problem with Nigerians is that you love to lie to yourselves. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by Nobody: 5:59am On Oct 26, 2015 |
Nigeria has a GDP about 9 times that of Kenya but last year Kenya had a national budget that was bigger than that of Nigeria . I was really surprised to discover that . |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by NewNigeriaMind: 6:06am On Oct 26, 2015 |
Good morning guys. Having breakfast and well heading out soon. See you guys latter in the evening with more pictures. |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by ISpiksDaTroof: 6:09am On Oct 26, 2015 |
Rossikk: Your own problem, I think, is that you truly believe in your heart that your thoughts are "deep" and you're giving out serious knowledge online. 2 Likes |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by DropShot: 6:16am On Oct 26, 2015 |
Rossikk:You could have said all this without the name calling! |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by BOWOTO(m): 6:26am On Oct 26, 2015 |
SkyBlue1:Bro please ignore that guy, I gave up on him a long time ago, he has the typical Nigeria mentality, blaming colonialists for his misfortunes. After 55 years, still blaming colonialists, I doubt if Nigeria will ever develop. with people like this. 1 Like |
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