Can we change the Topic to How Can Nigeria Work?
'Cos if we stay on why it does not work, that will be part of why it will never work.

mogentle why trying to change the subject are you scared of telling a fulani who is a human being like you the truth, they are not God!

im going to expose all thier nonsence so that some people will feel so ashamed that they will go and talk to thier fellow northerners

even cigarette same thing nigerian tobacco selling at half price to mallam , same thing nigerian distillaries selling squadron and other alchohol at half price to mallam.

this is why yar adua has like cancer or something like that sickness, because he reaping the cheating, because yar adua could not leave smoking and drinking kai kai alone lol

even cement same thing mallam go directly to factory to collect cement at half price.

let me tell you a story of another avenue that these hausa-fulani have been using to siphon govt money for the past years.

during IBB time there was an army general by the name Mohammed Haladu from kano
at the time he was in charge of nigeria defence academy. right from when this man joined army he would take all the money that was under him and take it to kano to go and gamble.
even when he was chairman of nigerian ports authority.

the people he gambling with including abubakar rimi, abacha, dangote, dantata, bamanga, mai deribe etc mostly northerners specifically fulani but once in a while you see some middlebelters & southerners like adisa, useni, david mark and co there, you will even foriegn fulani people like paul biya. some lebanese and white expertriates at these gambling weekend sprees.

they will drop everything from key to rolls royce, to house key for a house in london or dabai or a yatch in spain, some bring the money they took directly from the govt accounts to gamble

its there that not only will you see fine women but also the finest homosexual men nigeria has to offer.

usually the location is hotel or a guest house.

this is how hausa-fulani have been gambling nigerias future away.

and the funny thing is that general haladu had refused to release money for medical treatment of some soldiers that came back from liberia with aids,

but haladu himself ended up dying of aids because he could not keep his hands off young boys and the prostitutes of abuja , espacially after he gambled virtually half of the money allocated to his ministry when he was minister of industries under abacha!

so you see its what hausa-fulani man sowing that hes reaping.

even in yar aduas govt this gambling is still going on, the hausa that are in charge of various ministries and parastatals as well as northern governors still converge to gamble official accounts at abuja, kaduna or kano!

example is rabiu kwakwanso who was the minister of defence during obj. this man had no experience what so ever in anything defence, the man was only there to be sending one or two hausa to go to laz vegas in america, dubai just to gamble and to invest it in things like stock market to try and double the ministry money and bring it back, with the aim of siphoning some from himself.


what they do is when they loose in the gambling they will use hausa in ministry of finance to tell southerner in another ministry or govt office to remit any surplus money in thier account at the end of the year to ministry of fianance in order to prepare the next budget.

then they will use that money to cover up the loss in the other ministry or parastatal. they will then tell the southerner in the other ministry that they and their director of finance are eligible for an and of year personl bonus, so that they will keep quiet.

hausa man not interested in anything going on in any hotel except currency exchange, casino or gambling taking place in that hotel.

southerners go to hotel for lodging, food, swimming pool, wedding, annual general meeting and recreation.

if things get bad in nigeria fulani can go to virtually any country in africa and see a fellow fulani speaking fulani or hausa and settle there infact they will have a settlement there.

for all other tribes, nigeria is the only country they have.
and the middle-belters are in this category

so why will IBB, useni and co joining and aiding fulani to spoil nigeria! can they tell me if there is gwari or nupe  or langtang tribe in any other part of africa.

a child that has many shoes will be careless with the shoes, but a child that has one shoe has to take care of that shoe very well.

the only reason a middle belter would join fulani to do such thing, is if the person is actually a fulani pretending to be a middlebelter!

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Wow Jimmyjam, you really jammed this thread. .

On a serious note, we all know where the problem is but failed to confront it. I believe with more awareness, we shall be prompted to take our destiny in our hands one day. Nigerian officials are damn corrupt.

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and the funny thing is that , most of the homsexuals are northerners, specifically fulani.

you see all those army officers that ruled nigeria, mostly of northern extraction , they liked being posted to a remote part of the country where their wifes nor anybody would know they are sleeping with men.

and this homosexual thing is now not only a thing for men.  even women are apparently getting into it, ther are allegations that sarakis daughter who is a senator known as gbemi is a lesbian.

or have people not read the stories in the papers of so called big girls of abuja, big girsl of lagos etc most of those girls and women they are referring to as big girl are lesbians. and some papers have carried the stories but they will just say names withheld

the story will be something like this

our insider sources hear it that a female senator (name withheld)
is madly in love with an rich abuja big girl businesswoman
and that they frequently meet at abuja sheraton for bedroom action etc etc

Hmmm. More expose on Why Nigeria is not working. Na wa o.

Nigeria is not working cause some people want Nigeria to be like the places these things happen watch.

http://www.terrorismawareness.org/videos/108/the-violent-oppression-of-women-in-islam/,

How can Nigeria work when our leaders are on looting spree.

CORRUPTION!CORRUPTION!!CORRUPTION!!!,OUR LEADERS!OUR LEADERS!!OUR LEADERS!!!-Abeg we are tired.
Somebody said revolution-YEAH,bring it on am in.

a man once said and i quote that

" IBB your the mechanic that spoilt nigeria and only you know the problem , and the parts you have spoilt , so therefore only you know the solution that will fix or solve the problem"

when i heard this statement i laughed twenty times over, because in as much as it was funny it also has an aota of truth because some mechanics are the same one who either stole or spoilt a car but will be the same ones to tell a person the problem with the car or to buy the parts that they had stolen lol

Nigeria isn't working cause no one listened to Fela or Femi.

hummmmmm.

you see by now nigeria is supposed to be like dubai, abu dhabi and united arab emirates, with all the oil money.

but instead the leaders over the years have encouraged a brain drain, and an andrew check out mentality.

even in the u.k, u.s due to the govts in those places spending their countries money on war. the number of europeans and americans who took up jobs in dubai, hong kong, india etc has drastically inscreased.

so brain drain and andrew check mentality is actually a world wide phenomenon. and its usually the leaders in those countries who encourage it

jimmyjam:

you see by now nigeria is supposed to be like dubai, abu dhabi and united arab emirates, with all the oil money.

but instead the leaders over the years have encouraged a brain drain, and an andrew check out mentality.

even in the u.k, u.s due to the govts in those places spending their countries money on war. the number of europeans and americans who took up jobs in dubai, hong kong, india etc has drastically inscreased.

so brain drain and andrew check mentality is actually a world wide phenomenon. and its usually the leaders in those countries who encourage it

@jimmyjam,

Why are you blaming Nigeria's problems on the Hausa/Fulani? Haven't there been corrupt southerners that have contributed in damaging Nigeria? Why not try to be more objective instead of being glaringly one-sided?

the truth is that Nigeria have leaders who dont put its citizens interest first.
come to think of it,

im being one sided because the hausa fulani are being one sided also or as lexdino said , not putting all nigerias first as one category.

jimmyjam:

you see by now nigeria is supposed to be like dubai, abu dhabi and united arab emirates, with all the oil money.

The Emirates' leaders are just ascorrupt as ours. Only difference is the relative sizes of the populations which means they can afford to steal and yet still produce a ''paradise''.

The Emirates' leaders are just ascorrupt as ours. Only difference is the relative sizes of the populations which means they can afford to steal and yet still produce a ''paradise''.

The emirates steal to develope their countries. Nigeria leaders steal to develope other countries.

here is the method for problem management:

1. Identify the origin and cause of the problem
i.e who started it, or what started it?

2. what is prolonging or making it to reoccur:

i.e who is fueling it and how e.g in the niger delta is it IBB and various politicians or foreign entities fueling it by financial or arms support

can we anticipate the problem to reoccur if so how soon or how often


3. what are the solutions to it

i.e do they have to share things more fairly
do we have to conceed something e.g bakassi
do we have to demand more rights, do we have to demonstrate, riot, meeting, conference etc

4. who has the solutions and whos responsibility is it to solve it:
is it responsibility of the federal, senate, soverign conference, international body, private entities, non govt organizations,  or citizens/indigenes

5. what positive and lasting results will the solutions bring

obasanjo and kofi anan set up peace and conflict centers, we are still waiting to see the function and use of these centers.

Im trying to understand how gaskiya is saying that all careers, sectors etc are all represented at the senate, house of rep level, unless they are being 100% handpicked based on their profession and background, and we know thats not true.

so far we have addressed question number 1 i.e the cause of the problem.  i.e corruption , attitude, selfishness, fulani, gays etc

please can we now move to discuss question number 2 i.e what is prolonging it or making it to re-occur.

i think what is prolonging it is that these bad ideologies and individuals are not being checked both collectively and individually via a broad mechanism

also a lot of people have offered solutions and seminars on the way forward, but how many act on it, very few

jimmyjam:

so far we have addressed question number 1 i.e the cause of the problem.  i.e corruption , attitude, selfishness, fulani, gays etc

please can we now move to discuss question number 2 i.e what is prolonging it or making it to re-occur.

i think what is prolonging it is that these bad ideologies and individuals are not being checked both collectively and individually via a broad mechanism

also a lot of people have offered solutions and seminars on the way forward, but how many act on it, very few

Canada is not working either because almost every  10 years there is a referendum about Quebec's willingness to break way from the federal government.
I mean which country is working properly , somalia,  liberia, serbia, Belgium,  Uk?
Americans are saying their country is owned by chinese.

Canada is not working either because almost every 10 years there is a referendum about Quebec's willingness to break way from the federal government.
I mean which country is working properly , somalia, liberia, serbia, Belgium, Uk?
Americans are saying their country is owned by chinese.

Are you saying that nothing spoils as Nigeria is not working? Nigeria is too endowed in all ramifications not to be working.

panafrican you have a point , its not only those countries infact in ireland the irish republican army is fighting for a similar reason,including the fact that they dont want thier currency tied to the british pound amoung others i think its that or they dont want to use british pound there. i think also they dont want to be part of the united kingdom.

In terms of IBB and co their homosexuality stems from 2 sources:

1. Psychiatric/pshychological: psychiatrist have actully discovered a malfunction of a certain part of the brain that causes a mood disorder that causes a person to exhibit a homosexual behaviour either in public or in private. the persons thoughts will be stuck, rigid, fixated and facinated about relationships with a similar sex to the point that anybody who is anti-gay towards them will appear abnormal and will be looked at as an enemy.

for some reason a lot of them exhibit a smartness in another part of the brain such as ability to plan well, exhibit high political and diplomacy skills and verbal ability, thats why some gays talk funny. They also seem to be creative i.e they like fashion, art etc e.g gianni versace, karl largerfeld etc

also it has been noticed that people who are not sure of their parentage or family background have a tendency to be homosexual e.g orphans (this appears to also be IBB's case)

also people who thier parents used to dress them up as girls maybe if thier clothes where washed/wet but their sisters clothes where dry their parents would temporarily wear them the clothes of the sibling of the opposite sex. or it can be a mother who would playingly/jokingly put lipstock on her small sons lips and everyone will take it as an innocent joke. these events leave the child unsure about thier sexualiy later on in their teen years, thats when they would want to experiment with a member of the same sex.



2. The spiritual and religious factor: there are some juju and cults that people patronise for money, power and even for high intellect (similar to how IBB is)
the requirement by the babalowo or the cult will be that the person will have to sleep with younger people of the same sex every few days if not the persons money, power and intellect will immediately start diminishing and vanish
(this appears to also be the case of IBB, Abubakar, haladu, mukhtar etc)

the funny thing is that some of these men will even sleep with the son of a friend and offer the small boy access to money and power themselves)

so we can now see how people like orji kalu got into this gay thing , his own was juju/cult based that he joined after first sleeping with the likes of IBB and then those men now referred him that if he wants power, money etc like them that he should join or something to that effect or automatically as soon as those men slept with him as a young child, he immediately becomes spiritually blind and start following them to any cult activity via follow follow juju (where the person will be folowing them everywhere they go)