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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by elated177: 5:58pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
CharlyG1, Nnamdiosu, sonofthunder, I am still waiting for your responses. |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Dencotext: 9:48pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
Tjayjosh: Well my good friend, I found this article online that stated that " The rapture, often called "the blessed hope," is sadly more hoax than hope, even though the man who started it had no intention of deceiving anyone. You need to know what the Bible actually says!.... Credit for its origin generally goes to John Nelson Darby, a 19th-century theologian." You can find the full story here https://www.ucg.org/world-news-and-prophecy/the-rapture-a-popular-but-false-doctrine Also you can find tons of material online about how this man started using the word RAPTURE for the first time about 200 years ago or more... before then, no such doctrines like post-tribulation , pretribulation or tribulation rapture existed in the Church... thanks to the mess it caused and OUR believe that we are advancing in knowledge. We do not even know that devil have been alive throughout our church history. Evangelical pentecostal always challenge unscriptural things that the orthodox church added so why not we think that unscriptural things have also crept into our midst too? You must question every acceptable thing nowadays if they are found in the bible as handed to us by the early church, if they are not, try to check up the origin. Being simple in God is better than being complicated without scriptural backings. Since I do not find the word RAPTURE in the bible, I will accept your doctrine that "The "caught up" and the second coming are similar but separate events." on one condition only... Please assuming, John Nelson never wrote about this rapture of a thing, please kindly let me know based on the bible, how many resurrections from the dead do we have? Please I am not interested to predict when it would happen... Jesus said he does not know, only the Father knows, I am only interested to know how many times the dead would be resurrected. And for Christ sake, please do not misunderstand the word called resurrection, bible stated that those living in Christ are also buried with him in death through baptism, meaning they died..... so that is why they will be caught in the air even when they are alive. RESURRECTION ensures everybody knows they have died somehow in Christ to be able to partake in ETERNAL LIFE. RAPTURE only describe flying in the air alive to meet Jesus... but this did not explain why people would fly up in the sky to meet Christ. The word RESURRECTION ensures they know they have died (with Christ anyway, whether dead or alive, to God it is the same thing... that we really died with Jesus...to come back to live). So scripturally or technically speaking, being "caught up" or whatever you call that event cannot be termed RAPTURE but RESURRECTION unless believers are not going to put on the glorified body when they are caught up but enter heaven with flesh and blood. The confusion caused by the word RAPTURE by the devil, is the same confusion caused when the unbelievers first called us CHRISTIANS.... we are not trying to behave like Christ, we are not even behaving like CHRIST... the early church called themselves believers because we are saved by faith. So we know that JESUS LIVES INSIDE US that is why we behave like him, as it is the life of Christ manifesting through us, because we are the body of CHRIST, not because we behave like him religiously... in both instances, I am talking about the power that be inside us, not ABOUT what you see of the outward behaviour. Even a fake Christian could behave religiously correct to the eyes like a believer, yet deny the power thereof. God wants us to put our faith on the finished work of Christ that we must die with Him to gain life, satan wants us to talk about only the outward manifestations knowing that when you put your hope on words never found in the Bible... that is when you can even fight and kill those who quote scriptures because it has the real power of GOD, which the devil fears and hates. Please do not use the word Rapture to defend your opinion again unless you show me from the Bible. Better quote scriptures to defend your opinion and we can look into the meanings. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Gent: 3:18pm On Feb 06, 2020 |
Let me not be selfish, I`ll post mine. Experience (Testimony) 1. My strange experiences started when I was in Primary 3. Many nights while sleeping, I would experience an unseen force pressing me down to my bed, can`t move any part of my body, the only thing I could do then was to control my eyes and breath. This experience never left me, I always had it in many nights. Doesn`t matter whether I was at home, school, company accommodation, or anywhere else. I noticed that the force, likely demonic, was more prominent whenever I`m living in SIN. Anytime I`m close to Jesus Christ, especially been strong in prayer, I`m protected. At times, the demonic force is so strong that even during the day, I experience it in my sleep. But I have never seen strange things like shadows, spirits, etc during the activity. About 6 months ago, something happened in my company apartment that put an end to this rubbish. In my room, one end of the bed is close to the wall, with time, I noticed that whenever I sleep at that end of the bed, I MUST BE PRESSED in my sleep. Hence, I always avoided that part, and I got some respite, at least to an extent. Then on this fateful night, that demonic force pressed me, and consequently, I was highly provoked and couldn`t wait for the next night to come, so that we will know who is who. Before I conclude experience 1, let me mention certain things I found out about this demonic force, at least, by my calculation, I have been under its power for about 40 years, so I know one or two things about it. The power it exerts on its victims is strongest when a. when u are sleeping at night. b. when u are sleeping alone. c. Sleeping with your back on the bed and your face facing the ceiling, i.e. facing up. d. absolute silence in the room. e. room lights off, thus dark room. etc. On the fateful night, I personally invited this demonic power for a show, then I was really very angry with it. Then, I was alone in my room at my company apartment. Though I couldn`t see the power or its source, just before sleeping for the night, I told the evil force that I will create a conducive environment that will maximize its power, like a. sleeping on the part of the bed close to the wall. b. sleep while facing up. c. ensuring that both the room lights and outside lights are off. d. ensuring there is absolute silence in the room by making certain the TV, radio, etc are off. etc. I spoke to the power, I said after making the room okay for its operation, I invite it to press me. I told it that if it succeeds, then it means the God I worship, Jesus Christ my Lord and the Holy Spirit are powerless. Then I made the room very conducive for its operation, and slept. My brother and sister, since then till now which is a period of about 6 months, that demonic force don pick race, I never experience it again. It doesn`t matter whether my room is conducive or not for its operation, I`m free! Appreciation to God for its intervention. Tomorrow, or next tomorrow, will publish Experience 2. God bless us all. 20 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Dencotext: 8:41pm On Feb 06, 2020 |
Gent: Man make we celebrate am with a bottle of goodair na? ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by TrollKiller(m): 10:12pm On Feb 06, 2020 |
I had a dream.... I saw myself with a girl. A beautiful girl though I couldn't remember her face when I woke up I felt so much love for this girl ehn.... The love was so intense and hard that I felt it when I woke up. At the end of the dream. I hugged her and like cried because I was leaving or something and she was sad too. When I woke up, I cried physical tears I have never felt that kind of deep connection with a person before Please what does this mean Mind you we never had sex or kiss, all we did was hug and play, but I felt that we were a couple or something. My spirit was so happy in that dream. |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Nobody: 5:19pm On Feb 08, 2020 |
I now have the revelational knowledge that the great tribulations will be after the resurrection of the saints (rapture) and not before it. Also the time is truly nearer now than ever In fact, all is set and Jesus Himself is ready, all waiting for the signal from the Father. We are in the time of grace and mercy. The Father is delaying to extend grace and mercy to thousands. Now is the season to wash your garments everyday and focus on the throne. Shalom brothers. 3 Likes |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Gent: 9:18pm On Feb 08, 2020 |
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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Gent: 10:00pm On Feb 08, 2020 |
Experience (Testimony) 2. This experience was before the advent of gsm service in the country. This was the period I, together with my parents, were living in the family house in Benin. My siblings were either schooling or working outside the state, hence myself, and parents were the only ones occupying the house. From when I was born till now, I never purchased an alarm clock or alarm device. On this fateful night, I made up my mind to pray at 2am every night because I knew prayer is needed to be strong in Christianity, at that period my prayer life was very weak. I made up my mind to wake up before or at 2AM every night to pray to my God. Now, my parents` rooms was at one end of the house, my room was at the other end of the house. Remember, I had no alarm, yet I was determined to wake at 2am for prayer, my wrist watch was by my side, so that I would check time from time to time. I lay on the bed at about 8pm on the fateful night, after sleeping for some hours, somebody spank me very hard on my buttocks (bom-bom), this was physical. The spanking was what woke me from my sleep, but to my greatest surprise, nobody but me was in my room. The only persons that could have done that were my parents, but they were sleeping in their rooms, besides, I never mentioned it to anyone my plans to wake up at 2am. This was a mystery, just before continuing with my sleep, I remembered my plan to pray at 2am, then I looked at my watch to see if it was 2am, behold, I was dazed seeing it was 2AM ON THE DOT, it wasn`t a minute before or after 2AM, but it was 2AM ON THE DOT. 8 Likes |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Gent: 10:30pm On Feb 08, 2020 |
Experience (Testimony) 3. I was in my room in my father`s house and in a dream, this was about 10pm. Though dreaming, I was a little bit conscious of my physical environment. I noticed there was a power forcing me to sleep and another power or opposing power waking me up. In other words, two powers, which are opposing each other were at work in my life. But my physical consciousness was very small, in the spiritual, a strange woman (wasn`t married at that time) was seducing me. At that state, I did not understand what was happening, physically, I felt a being laying on me, could feel it from my head to toes, on the bed, I was facing up and my hands on the back of the being. I observed the back of the strange being was slimy, slimy just like okro water, unconsciously, my hands was moving up and down apparently in romance, yet I did not know what was going on cos. in the dream a strange woman was seducing and romancing me. Suddenly, I woke up from my dream and sleep and immediately became fully conscious of my environment. At that point of waking up, I felt the strange being leaving my body, u know, like someone that lay on u leaving your body, u will feel pressure or load on u leaving. It`s obvious the power forcing me to sleep was doing so to enable me sleep with the strange woman, and the power forcing to wake was to prevent me from sleeping withy the strange woman. I thank God for His intervention. 5 Likes |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Gent: 11:08pm On Feb 08, 2020 |
Experience (Testimony) 4. This experience was at the last two Football World Cup in South Africa. Then primary schools was not in session, thus my wife and children went for holiday in Sapele, Delta State where my wife come from. I was alone in my rented apartment in PHC. You will recall last matches for the day end at about 11pm. Then. I always join other football lovers to watch matches late into the night before coming home. On the fateful night, I got home about 11:15pm, went to bed at about 11:30pm. While deep in sleep, physically I felt a weight on my, as if somebody was lying on me, remember I was the only one in the house. This strange occurrence left me puzzled, I kept asking myself in the sleep, " what is going on, I thought my family is in Sapele, then how come somebody is on me, besides, I`m the only one in the house. " In the same sleep, my mind appears divided, one half of it was saying, " boy, just sleep. Your wife is the one on you" While the other half countered the other voice by saying, " guy wake up, remember your family is in Sapele, and something is on you, so wake up". This argument went on for a time until I decided to wake up. As soon as I woke, I felt a body leaving me and consequently got a respite. I checked the time, and it was about 11:50pm. Thank God for His intervention. 2 Likes |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Gent: 12:38am On Feb 09, 2020 |
Experience (Testimony) 5. My last key experiences. My wife and I were in the same bed at night. At sleeping for many hours, the urge to continue for me wasn`t there, nevertheless I remained in bed with my eyes still closed, in light sleep. Then, I was a little bit conscious of the environment, though still in light sleep. By my guess, the time was 4am, apart of noise of night creatures, fans, etc, there were silence everywhere, even in the compound, my neighbours were still fast asleep since there voices were not heard. Suddenly, I started hearing the voices of children, the noise was coming from far towards my apartment. The noise was a mixture of chatting, laughing, excited talk, etc. By my conjecture, the children should be between 7-12 years. Though I was still in light sleep, I was faintly conscious of happening in the physical. The voices was drawing closer and closer to my apartment, until it got to it and pass by until I heard the voices no more. What came to my mind was for me to hear children voices, then it is daybreak and most likely the voices I heard is that of children on their way to school. I then concluded that it should be about 6:45am, but then I wondered why I could not hear my neighbour`s voices. But I noticed a strange thing, the direction of the voices when it got to my apartment or compound was from the air, I mean it was as if the children making the noise, where flying because I heard the noise pass over my roof. I`m 100% certain that the voices of the "children" were passing over the roof of my house, which means the children that were chatting were not walking, they were flying in the air. All this while, my eyes were still close in light sleep, but partially conscious of happenings in the physical. After the voices finally died, I opened my eyes, and to by greatest shock, I say it was still night, in other words, it was not yet day break. Quickly, I looked at the time, and discovered it was about 4:35am. I thank God for the revelation. 1 Like |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by CharlyG1: 6:49pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
elated177: A man who imagines or dreams this, is a wizard. Whether he knows it or not. The power of control (witchcraft) whatsoever does not come from God. Whether it's the manipulative control of people (like Jezebel), or using magic on various things and objects. It's not from God. It's the superhuman stuff that belongs to the doctrine of demons i.e Dr Strange, Superman, etc. And if a man imagines himself constantly trying to be like this "Dr Strange personality", then he is messing with occult spirits and he's in darkness already. 1 Like |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by elated177: 10:02pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
CharlyG1: I wonder why it took you this long to reply. What if an individual actually has the ability to do this in real life? |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by CharlyG1: 11:04pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
elated177: I am really sorry I took so long to reply you and some others who contacted me via mails and others that will still send me mails. Maybe it's because I have other things to attend to now and then, and I can't do everything at the same time, after all I'm human. So to answer your other question, the only people that will be able to do such things are "Witches" and "Wizards" by the use of diabolical powers. That goes back to my previous answer that such abilities come only from Satan and demons. God don't give powers to control things. He blesses His children with spiritual gifts for the advancement of His kingdom here on earth and He puts His Spirit in His children to help them overcome all the wiles and powers of darkness. I hope I have answered your question sir. Thank you. 3 Likes |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by elated177: 11:38pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
CharlyG1: I will get back to this. Let me suspend it for now. Let's look at the issue involving chelseafan99, I can use his monicker now that he has replied, what did he say in that thread that made you and the other guys classify his experiences as demonic? I have asked the question already. Didn't you see it? |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Finallydead: 1:39am On Feb 10, 2020 |
elated177: CharlyG1: Sir, my little contribution about your dream is to say not every dream is a parable that requires interpretation. Some dreams are simply a projection or anatomy into your spiritman, and most times your soul. This is one of the functions of God's Logos light in the believer(Heb4:12). If the believer is sanctified and well severed from his Adamic foundation. Then what you've described here maybe dormant resident power's in your spirit (psychokinesis) which may or may not manifest in your physical universe depending on your maturity in Christlike love and reaching the point of sonship, as well as God's sovereign will for you. Yet in the course of the Logos light inspection of your spirit, it may simply observe this residual ability in the spirit. This may be the case of your dream, but still depends on the witness in your spirit at the time of the dream to tell you the source of this dream and your discernment to tell you the kind of spirit(whether witchcraft) behind it. Regardless of the case, it is never wisdom to focus on any such things than simple perfecting the love of God and development of holy faith. God bless. |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by MuttleyLaff: 7:31am On Feb 10, 2020 |
elated177:What I would say about something like this is to start with first asking probing questions like: 1/ Why does he want the branches of the tree to move? 2/ What is he trying to prove by wanting and/or getting the branches of the tree to move.? 3/ Is he that vain, he just has to get the branches of the tree to move ni? 4/ What's the benefit, whats he to gain from having the branches of the tree to move? 5/ To what purposes does he want to have the branches of the tree to move? 6/ What power is influencing him to want to have the branches of the tree to move? nnamdiosu: elated177: nnamdiosu: elated177:https://www.nairaland.com/2705292/seeing-demons-angels-fallen-angels/74#43080656 Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Chelseafan99: 11:50pm On Feb 19, 2016 Correct me if I am wrong elated177, but the above link is the written or spoken statement of Chelseafan99 you're referring to, hmm? C'mon now elated177, when pesin dey cry, pesin still sabi see ground for road now. Chelseafan99 admitted to a chequered life of frequent and regular visits to to native doctors and the likes. He admitted that occultism is a tradition in his family, even revealed that his grand father was the chief native doctor in their village. elated177, the writing is all over on the wall now, and showing clear signs that Chelseafan99 has so long pried and stared into darkness, that darkness too, has decided to turn round and stare back at Chelseafan99, lol. Only God can help Chelseafan99, to show him light to beam at the darkness and defy darkness with the light. If there's no one around to hand over a torchlight, candle or anything to help with him with, then he needs to pronto get out of the frigging black abyss he's got sucked into and immersed in elated177:I have another two cent to give next below aside the already one I just above have given CharlyG1:Gbam! elated177:I would suspect such individual CharlyG1:Gbam elated177:elated177, I trust you now can see, in the CharlyG1 response, the relevance of those 6 questions above, at the beginning of this post, I asked, hmm? Also elated177 what Chelseafan99 narrated wasnt a dream/vision/trance but it was an actual event that happened to him in real life Finallydead:elated177, lol, about your "a man looks at a tree about 100ft away and says in his heart he wants the branches of the tree to move" I am going to be brutal frank and honest with you. I am getting elated177, that there has been a misunderstanding in what the core lesson is that Jesus was teaching in Matthew 17:20 and Matthew 21:21. The man in your narrative, has taken literally what Jesus said in Matthew 17:20 and Matthew 21:21, but that isnt what Jesus taught in there that we do. What Jesus taught in Matthew 17:20 and Matthew 21:21 was to have fair, sensible, strong, intelligent, logical, appropriate and reasonable faith You see elated177, that Jesus' remark, ''...you could say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it would move. Nothing would be impossible'' is a hyperbole and if anybody has taken the ''move mountain'' remark literally, then the posssible only mountain moved by such will be done using earth moving machineries such as JCB or Caterpillar bulldozers, lol. I could compliment with more light and add more value to that my brother/sister Finallydead contribution, but whats up there is suffice, so I wouldnt, unless someone personally requests for it 2 Likes |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by elated177: 10:00am On Feb 10, 2020 |
CharlyG1: This was not a dream, trance or vision. It was not an imagination. This was a real life event featuring the power of YHVH Almighty. The power of what control? How did Jezebel factor into this. The case of Jezebel, as portrayed in the Scriptures, is clearly different from this issue. Superman stuff? So if Dr Strange or Superman actually existed in real life you would ascribe his power to Satan? Hilarious! A man who imagines himself doing what Dr Strange or Superman did is messing with the occult? Really! Ludicrous! If occultism had such power to give, many occultists in this world would have acquired or achieved it. Again, if Satan actually had such power, the power to do what Dr Strange or Superman did, many of his servants, especially the numerous witches in this country, would have acquired such power. Besides, I don't even know why you dragged Dr Strange and Superman into this issue. I doubt if you can actually differentiate between occult spirit and the Spirit of YHVH Almighty. |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by CharlyG1: 10:02am On Feb 10, 2020 |
elated177: I've gone back to that page for your sake. Everyone there gave chelseafan99 great advice. He needed Jesus and deliverance. His experience was as a result of demonic forces working in his life. Situations like that don't come from God. If you're probing around, looking for faults here and there, you'll find none. What is done here is backed up by God Almighty. If you have a similar case like chelseafan99, then you need deliverance ASAP. I advise you to say whatever you have in mind so that we could be of help to you. After all, we all need love and support. I almost became a wizard at some point in my life, maybe I even was. Satan had sent witches, wizards, and fallen angels to turn me, I kid you not. The witches confessed, and I saw the fallen angels and demons with my eyes opened. From age 11, a particular celestial spirit would always appear to me in white garment during my childhood days and would torment me during my sleep and even when I was awake. Only I could see this demon, and no one else. I never knew why this happened until Jesus came and revealed it all to me. Anyway, They tried to "turn me" making me believe I had "clairvoyance", or psychic abilities". But I didn't turn thank God. I practiced Clairvoyance in my ignorance, and soul travel and yes it worked. I never knew I was practicing witchcraft and had opened up a door for sexual spirits to come into my life. My experiences are quite vast, I can't share them all here. But one thing I'll tell you from experience is this: These demons are more cunning than we think and they make you believe all that superhuman stuff, to make you feel good about yourself and give you a prideful heart. They want you to open the door for them to come in. So the more you practice witchcraft ignorantly, the door opens for them to come in and possess you. So, You my friend have to humble yourself, and remove that pride from your heart. That's the first step to your deliverance. And the next step is to seek for Godly counsel. If you don't like our advice here, go to your church for counsel. I'm pretty sure you'll be directed for deliverance if your experiences are the same with chelseafan99. And oh, Stay away from all those nonsense new age practices.. * The law of attraction (deep/focused imagination) * Trying to mind read * Channeling energy to heal someone and absorb the person's disease or sickness (I did that ignorantly) * Yoga * Deep and focused imagination (like meditation during hypnosis) These are all occultic and very dangerous. You are not Superman, or Spiderman or Doctor Strange etc. You are God's creation and you should do only what the Lord wants of you. God bless you. 12 Likes |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by CharlyG1: 10:20am On Feb 10, 2020 |
elated177: I thought you were just ignorant. Now I see that you're more foolish than I could imagine. So this power you talk of was given to you by God to make trees move and dance around? Well done sir. You are too powerful. So Dr Strange is not from the occult? You haven't seen the occultic symbologies Dr Strange uses when he invokes those powers? So you think all these superheroe stuff you see on TV is just for entertainment? You don't know they're inspired by the occultic powers behind Hollywood who worship these spirits as gods (superheroes). I guess you don't believe that the so called "Spiderman" is infact a real demon. You don't know the scriptures nor do you research. Demons regard themselves as "Superheroes", "Men of renown" even as said in the Bible. And during deliverances, many demons will boast about who they are and what they can do. Continue moving objects with your mind or hands. I respect you so much because you are so powerful. Continue with your foolishness until you enter into the depths of the snare of the enemy. Only God can save you. I have no more advice for you. And don't stirr any more issues here, and that's a warning! 6 Likes |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by MuttleyLaff: 10:30am On Feb 10, 2020 |
elated177:elated please be specific. Are you saying all that moving tree narrative is about you ni? That you have the ability to with just ordinarily your mind, physically uproot and move trees from point A to point B, hmm? CharlyG1:CharlyG1, go easy on elated177, it hasnt yet got to labelling anyone with foolishness yet. If this was some other poster, yeah maybe, but elated177, hmm, maybe something has gone awry somewhere in his/her theology and biblical studies Please suffer him/her a bit further, let's see how high in the air he/she is and how low she/he will land. I wouldnt just like that wash hands off him/her and then left to be thrown under the bus 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by elated177: 10:31am On Feb 10, 2020 |
CharlyG1: You have probably mistaken me for one of the people seeking solution from you. Have you not seen the messages my Father in heaven, YHVH Almighty, has used his humble servant, elated177, to disseminate? Did someone who could be used to disseminate such messages sound to you like a person who would have a dream and start running from pillar to post in search of interpretation? How dare you make such an ignorant statement? How many witches or wizards, either in the past or present, have you heard did or could do such a thing? Mention their names or cases. To be able to achieve such a feat, the individual must actually generate enough wind "breeze" that will move the branches of such tree. How many diabolical powers can generate such wind? You see, CharlyG1, when you people do not know what to say, just keep quiet and stop saying what you do not know. This display of ignorance and arrogance has really gotten angry. Yahushua the Messiah walked on water and calmed the storm. I guess such power came from Satan? Arrant nonsense! Elijah withheld rainfall for three and half years. Was EliYah from Satan, too? The power with which EliYah the prophet called down fire on mount Carmel, was it occultic or satanic as well? With what power, exactly, did prophet EliYah cause the heavy rain, after humiliating the 850 prophets of Baal and Ashtoreth? Was it from Satan? You see, CharlyG1, witchcraft is calling good evil and evil good; calling light darkness and darkness light. Witchcraft, occultism or satanism, is actually ascribing the pure, great and awesome power of YHVH Almighty to Satan. Stick to the dreams and so-called interpretations you are doing. As long as this issue is concerned, you either do not know what you are talking about or you belong to the group of occultists, witches, wizards and satanists who go about looking for the light of YHVH Almighty is his servants to quench. Please, quit with the "sir" and false humility. I don't have time for such. |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by MuttleyLaff: 10:36am On Feb 10, 2020 |
elated177:The british bobby from the moment he/she apprehends you, put handcuffs on, lead you into the cell and slam the door shut at every moment will be "sir" you, lol. Nothing to do with humility, its just decorum, lol, so dont misinterpret CharlyG1 calling you sir, lol 2 Likes |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by elated177: 10:49am On Feb 10, 2020 |
Finallydead: I never said this was a dream. My statement was: "Let's say someone saw himself/herself doing this in the dream." I spoke hypothetically. This was/is real life event. Not dream, vision or trance. I never really specified who was involved. I don't know what you tried to communicate here. |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by elated177: 10:51am On Feb 10, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: See muttleylaff waltzing in, probing and all. Ludicrous! Go and sit down somewhere and have yourself one glass of chilled Irish rum and freshly baked scotch egg, dude. You know zilch about this issue. |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by CharlyG1: 10:54am On Feb 10, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: I'm sorry to say foolishness. I should have said "Beyond foolishness". It's not an insult. It's a prideful spirit that tries to deny God and yet having a form of godliness (2 Timothy 3:5) This young man believes all the diabolical stuff but tends to paint them in a good way like Simon the sorcerer. Now he talks about Elijah bringing fire down from heaven and Jesus walking on water. Those are signs and wonders actually done by God. God brought the fire down using Elijah because at that time Israel were under the bondage of Jezebel and Ahab. God sought to return His people back to Him using Elijah, Moses and all the signs and wonders that happened back then. Jesus is God, and Him walking on water and Peter walking on water was actually a teaching to strengthen the faith of His disciples to make them know that they can do all things if they have faith in Him. The thing about these signs and wonders is the motive behind it. The motive was God's and it was just and good. And it was only permitted by God. Didn't Elijah pray to God before the fire fell? Didn't Peter ask Jesus if he could come to him on the water? Satan himself performs signs and wonders and many will fall in the last days because of this. There are some things that should be addressed with a tough hand and not gently, and this is one of those cases. There is a form of pride seen in his previous posts, feels like he's struggling with something on the inside, and now he tries to unleash all that here and make me the victim. Someone who should humble himself thinks he knows it all. What a pity. 9 Likes |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by MuttleyLaff: 2:14pm On Feb 10, 2020 |
elated177:[img]https://s2/images/MuttleyDriveLaff.gif[/img] The scenery is captivating. Why did you not respond, when I typed, what I would say about something like this, is to start with, first asking probing questions like: 1/ Why does he want the branches of the tree to move? 2/ What is he trying to prove by wanting and/or getting the branches of the tree to move.? 3/ Is he that vain, he just has to get the branches of the tree to move ni? 4/ What's the benefit, whats he to gain from having the branches of the tree to move? 5/ To what purposes does he want to have the branches of the tree to move? 6/ What power is influencing him to want to have the branches of the tree to move? elated177:[img]https://s1/images/MuttAmin.gif[/img] Forgive me, for doing the due dilligence of trying find out, if all that talk and/or the moving tree narrative is about you. C'mon now, dont be shy to own up. Do you have the ability and extraordinary gift, to with, just ordinarily your mind, physically uproot and move trees from point A to point B, hmm elated177? 1 Like |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by MuttleyLaff: 2:15pm On Feb 10, 2020 |
CharlyG1:Foolishness is not an insult. It actually is a statement of fact. It means taking wrong decisions, it means deliberating or contemplaring unwise action. For example, it will be unwise (i.e. foolish) to, without looking left right and left again, cross a busy fast moving dual carriage highway road. It will be foolish or unwise to ignore a pedestrian overhead walkway bridge and attempt playing chicken crossing a multi-lane motorway. CharlyG1:"So Jesus said to them, “Because of your unbelief; for assuredly, I say to you, if you have faith as a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move; and nothing will be impossible for you." - Matthew 17:20 "Then Jesus told them, “I tell you the truth, if you have faith and don’t doubt, you can do things like this and much more. You can even say to this mountain, ‘May you be lifted up and thrown into the sea,’ and it will happen." - Matthew 21:21 elated177, is simply just temporarily misguided. He has mistaken and misunderstood what Matthew 17:20 and Matthew 21:21 are all about In his overzealousness, he has decided to want to live out the dreams/fantasies of literally moving objects like trees/mountains from point A to point B, lol |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by elated177: 3:52pm On Feb 10, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: Hocus pocus! |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by elated177: 3:55pm On Feb 10, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: I really wanted to ignore you. Where was it stated that a tree was uprooted from point A and moved to point B? |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by elated177: 4:05pm On Feb 10, 2020 |
CharlyG1: Rubbish! Utter rubbish! By their fruits the saints of Yahushua the Messiah shall be known. YHVH Almighty knows those who are his. Since I am neither here to seek glory for myself nor fleece people, I will ignore you and not condescend to your level by swinging insults. I have made my points. YHVH Almighty will never allow his light in his saints be quenched. |
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by elated177: 4:36pm On Feb 10, 2020 |
CharlyG1: Who is talking about superheroes? Someone is talking about supernatural powers of YHVH Almighty on his saints and you are here talking about superheroes? Who cares what Spiderman is or is not. Spiderman is a mere fiction. Why did you bring Spiderman, Dr Strange and Superman, mere fictions, into this issue? Could it be that, you, in your insecurity - fuelled by pride and arrogance, wanted to reduce the power of YHVH Almighty displayed in such event to a mere childish fiction. Do not be threatened, I don't do this for money or fame. I neither have a church nor do I ever wish to open one. I have always advised people to focus on doing the will of YHVH Almighty by obeying his Commandments and by so doing, loving their fellow human beings. Many folks, while pursuing dreams and their so-called interpretations, have fallen into the traps and snares of their enemies. Spiderman, Superman, Dr Strange, etc, are mere fictions and, yes, they are ordinary entertainment. Who knows how many souls you have misled with your so-called dreams and interpretations. People like you abound. When you see pure, great and awesome power of YHVH Almighty on and in his servants, you covet it. If you see that you can neither tap/steal it nor manipulate the carrier of such power to your advantage, you try to malign it or destroy the carrier of such power. May you end up destroying or maligning yourself, CharlyG1. It is a thread like this one that you people actually use to fish out people with real gifts and powers of YHVH Almighty in this world, but who are not yet aware of what their Father in heaven has made them to be and the specific purpose for which he made them the way he did. May YHVH Almighty continue to deliver his servants from you and your cohorts. You are the snare of the enemy and I will never enter into you. |
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