Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by Nobody: 3:18pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
donnffd:
Who assumed monkeys will become humans ?, Are you sure you read the post , please go read it again, i never said monkeys will become humans, i believe my exact words were "Chimps are our closest cousins"...
I must have misread...do accept my sincere apologies 1 Like |
Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by HCpaul(m): 3:19pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
ifeness:
How do you explain a god creating the world in 6 days? What can be more superstitious than that? The absence of knowledge shouldn't be filled by god. That is a medieval reasoning. And you think that the best explanation you can provide is to use the existence of God as an excuse for your inability to provide an evidence. If you fail to provide me one, then have just detect another weakness of an athiest. |
Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by hahn(m): 3:21pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
ifeness:
How do you explain a god creating the world in 6 days? What can be more superstitious than that? The absence of knowledge shouldn't be filled by god. That is a medieval reasoning. It's 7 days actually. He created "highness" on the last day after smoking the weed he created hence "the rest" ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) |
Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by Nobody: 3:22pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
HCpaul:
And you think that the best explanation you can provide is to use the existence of God as an excuse for your inability to provide an evidence.
If you fail to provide me one, then have just detect another weakness of an athiest.
I cannot argue about the non-existence of your god with you. I cannot convince my niece Lords Of The Rings did not really happen. |
Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by HCpaul(m): 3:24pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
hahn:
Ogbeni, answer my question joor and stop replying a question with a question. Weren't you taught how to hold a civilized discussion? ![undecided](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/undecided.png) Am sorry... The name that i saw prompted me that you are from china, and that was why i wasn't sure of your religion. Ok Mr Chiolin Hahn... Am not answering your question o. Once again, are you a christian? |
Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by Nobody: 3:24pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
hahn:
It's 7 days actually. He created "highness" on the last day after smoking the weed he created hence "the rest" ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) Oh 7 day,thanks brother! Ok Hcpaul I smoked weed with your god on the 7th day,I witnessed him going through the headache of perfecting the humans body....are you happy now@Hcpaul? ![smiley](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/smiley.png) 1 Like |
Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by hahn(m): 3:26pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
HCpaul:
Am sorry... The name that i saw prompted me that you are from china, and that was why i wasn't sure of your religion.
Ok Mr Chiolin Hahn... Am not answering your question o.
Once again, are you a christian? And you expect me to answer yours? ![undecided](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/undecided.png) "Hahn" is a Chinese name? Wetin we no go hear for your mouth ![cry](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cry.gif) |
Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by HCpaul(m): 3:26pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
ifeness:
I cannot argue about the non-existence of your god with you. I cannot convince my niece Lords Of The Rings did not really happen. You loose the arguement because you fail to provide me an evidence for the evolution theory. |
Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by HCpaul(m): 3:34pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
hahn:
And you expect me to answer yours? ![undecided](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/undecided.png)
"Hahn" is a Chinese name? Wetin we no go hear for your mouth ![cry](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cry.gif)
So you are really fron chinese... Wow! That is excellent.
I won go do my computer project.
Wait for me, am coming back in the evening. |
Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by hahn(m): 3:36pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
HCpaul:
So you are really fron chinese... Wow! That is excellent.
I won go do my computer project. Wait for me, am coming back in the evening. Don't forget to go for your psychiatric evaluation and take your meds. This your case is becoming worse by the minute ![undecided](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/undecided.png) |
Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by Nobody: 3:37pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
HCpaul:
You loose the arguement because you fail to provide me an evidence for the evolution theory. It is a long process and many things were involved. It certainly wasn't in 7 days I can assure you. Keep calm and enjoy your life Mr 1 Like |
Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by CoolUsername: 4:22pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
HCpaul:
Ok... Show me an evidence and i will belief the evolution theory. Finally! My time to shine. You see the way bacteria eventually become resistant to antibiotics? That's natural selection in action in that situation. A more specific example is the drought that occurred in Galapagos Islands back in '77. During the drought the supply of seeds was greatly reduced; now, a specie of bird called the finch which relied in small soft seeds for food had to turn to larger and harder seeds. As a result only the finches with larger beaks could get adequate food. By the next generation the size of finch beaks increased by 10%. That's microevolution and basically all that a person can witness realtime in a lifetime. But let's not kid ourselves microevolution continues until we see radical changes. So, whether a person says micro- or macroevolution. It's all the same process, evolution |
Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by CoolUsername: 4:30pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
Oluwaseytiano: "Evolution" mixes two things together, one real, one imaginary. Variation (microevolution) is the real part. The types of bird beaks, the colors of moths, leg sizes, etc. are variation. Each type and length of beak a finch can have is already in the gene pool and adaptive mechanisms of finches. Creationists have always agreed that there is variation within species. What evolutionists do not want you to know is that there are strict limits to variation that are never crossed , something every breeder of animals or plants is aware of. Whenever variation is pushed to extremes by selective breeding (to get the most milk from cows, sugar from beets, bristles on fruit flies, or any other characteristic), the line becomes sterile and dies out. And as one characteristic increases, others diminish. But evolutionists want you to believe that changes continue, merging gradually into new kinds of creatures. This is where the imaginary part of the theory of evolution comes in. It says that new information is added to the gene pool by mutation and natural selection to create frogs from fish, reptiles from frogs, and mammals from reptiles, to name a few. Do these big changes (macroevolution) really happen? Evolutionists tell us we cannot see evolution taking place because it happens too slowly. A human generation takes about 20 years from birth to parenthood. They say it took tens of thousands of generations to form man from a common ancestor with the ape, from populations of only hundreds or thousands. We do not have these problems with bacteria. A new generation of bacteria grows in as short as 12 minutes or up to 24 hours or more, depending on the type of bacteria and the environment, but typically 20 minutes to a few hours. There are more bacteria in the world than there are grains of sand on all of the beaches of the world (and many grains of sand are covered with bacteria). They exist in just about any environment: hot, cold, dry, wet, high pressure, low pressure, small groups, large colonies, isolated, much food, little food, much oxygen, no oxygen, in toxic chemicals, etc. There is much variation in bacteria. There are many mutations (in fact, evolutionists say that smaller organisms have a faster mutation rate than larger ones 17). But they never turn into anything new. They always remain bacteria. Fruit flies are much more complex than already complex single-cell bacteria. Scientists like to study them because a generation (from egg to adult) takes only 9 days. In the lab, fruit flies are studied under every conceivable condition. There is much variation in fruit flies. There are many mutations. But they never turn into anything new. They always remain fruit flies. Many years of study of countless generations of bacteria and fruit flies all over the world shows that evolution is not happening today. You know that microevolution never stops and eventually builds up into macroevolution right? 1 Like |
Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by johnydon22(m): 4:43pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
donnffd you see what i mean? You intended the thread to be an intellectual pin prick but it has been turned into "God and No God argument and word batter..."
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Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by CoolUsername: 4:46pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
Oluwaseytiano: Here is how the imaginary part is supposed to happen: On rare occasions a mutation in DNA improves a creature's ability to survive, so it is more likely to reproduce (natural selection). That is evolution's only tool for making new creatures. It might even work if it took just one gene to make and control one part. But parts of living creatures are constructed of intricate components with connections that all need to be in place for the thing to work, controlled by many genes that have to act in the proper sequence. Natural selection would not choose parts that did not have all their components existing, in place, connected, and regulated because the parts would not work. Thus all the right mutations (and none of the destructive ones) must happen at the same time by pure chance. That is physically impossible. To illustrate just how hopeless it is, imagine this: on the ground are all the materials needed to build a house (nails, boards, shingles, windows, etc.). We tie a hammer to the wagging tail of a dog and let him wander about the work site for as long as you please, even millions of years. The swinging hammer on the dog is as likely to build a house as mutation-natural selection is to make a single new working part in an animal, let alone a new creature. Only mutations in the reproductive (germ) cells of an animal or plant would be passed on. Mutations in the eye or skin of an animal would not matter. Mutations in DNA happen fairly often, but most are repaired or destroyed by mechanisms in animals and plants. All known mutations in animal and plant germ cells are neutral, harmful, or fatal. But evolutionists are eternally optimistic. They believe that millions of beneficial mutations built every type of creature that ever existed. Believing in beneficial mutations is like believing a short-circuit in the motherboard of your computer could improve its performance. To make any lasting change, a beneficial mutation would have to spread ("sweep"![wink](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/wink.png) through a population and stay (become "fixed" . To evolutionists, this idea has been essential for so long that it is called a "classic sweep", "in which a new, strongly beneficial mutation increases in frequency to fixation in the population." Some evolutionist researchers went looking for classic sweeps in humans, and reported their findings in the journal Science. "To evaluate the importance of classic sweeps in shaping human diversity, we analyzed resequencing data for 179 human genomes from four populations". "In humans, the effects of sweeps are expected to persist for approximately 10,000 generations or about 250,000 years." Evolutionists had identified "more than 2000 genes as potential targets of positive selection in the human genome", and they expected that "diversity patterns in about 10% of the human genome have been affected by linkage to recent sweeps." So what did they find? "In contrast to expectation," their test detected nothing, but they could not quite bring themselves to say it. They said there was a "paucity of classic sweeps revealed by our findings". Sweeps "were too infrequent within the past 250,000 years to have had discernible effects on genomic diversity." "Classic sweeps were not a dominant mode of human adaptation over the past 250,000 years." This is untrue. While gene mutations contribute to evolution, they are not the only the cause. Changes in the environment and isolation also cause animals to evolve differently. Also, you should note that not every single trait that every living animal has is beneficial. For example, whale foetuses grow rudimentary hindlimbs which are then reabsorbed before birth. Furthermore, the human male's testicles develop in the body and then migrate to their final place eventually through the inguinal canal. These canals make men susceptible to hernias. If evolution was always beneficial then male testicles should form outside the body away from our body heat and without the risk of hernias. |
Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by jayriginal: 6:12pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
Oluwaseytiano
Whoever wrote the articles you pasted here doesn't know very much about evolution.
Many of the questions can be dismissed with little thought. For instance, why don't Eskimos have fur. Well that's because they don't need fur since they wear warm clothing. That in itself is due to the fact that man is an intelligent animal.
Now if they had to go au naturale, then they better have some way of coping with the environmental conditions or they drop dead. This is in fact why many more species that have lived on earth are now extinct. Those that can adapt continue while those that can't become extinct.
You also mentioned bacteria. The goal of evolution is not to turn into a different specie (although this can and does happen). We have drug resistant germs. They've evolved to combat their natural predators. That's enough for them.
My thoughts, man would hardly evolve anymore (minus genetic engineering/modification) because technology has made us overcome our environmental challenges. We are no longer in our natural habitat where the impetus to survive was second nature. In our own way, we have also affected the environment and habitats of other animals.
Bottom line, the article you posted appears good but is pretty easy to deconstruct. Also, always include your sources. |
Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by Oluwaseytiano(m): 6:22pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
johnydon22:
Word of advice sir, quite the copy and paste you have bathed this thread and for once employ your own reason in dealing with topics ... if u had employed ur reasoning first u would have realised dat those were extract from a book. Just learn and stop being a dumbass |
Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by Oluwaseytiano(m): 6:22pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
jayriginal: Oluwaseytiano
Whoever wrote the articles you pasted here doesn't know very much about evolution.
Many of the questions can be dismissed with little thought. For instance, why don't Eskimos have fur. Well that's because they don't need fur since they wear warm clothing. That in itself is due to the fact that man is an intelligent animal.
Now if they had to go au naturale, then they better have some way of coping with the environmental conditions or they drop dead. This is in fact why many more species that have lived on earth are now extinct. Those that can adapt continue while those that can't become extinct.
You also mentioned bacteria. The goal of evolution is not to turn into a different specie (although this can and does happen). We have drug resistant germs. They've evolved to combat their natural predators. That's enough for them.
My thoughts, man would hardly evolve anymore (minus genetic engineering/modification) because technology has made us overcome our environmental challenges. We are no longer in our natural habitat where the impetus to survive was second nature. In our own way, we have also affected the environment and habitats of other animals.
Bottom line, the article you posted appears good but is pretty easy to deconstruct. Also, always include your sources. really? D fact is everybody knows nothing about evolution even d so Called evolutionist |
Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by Oluwaseytiano(m): 6:23pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
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Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by jayriginal: 6:27pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
Oluwaseytiano: really? D fact is everybody knows nothing about evolution even d so Called evolutionist It is a field of study for some people. You can't say everybody knows nothing about it. |
Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by johnydon22(m): 6:29pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
Oluwaseytiano: if u had employed ur reasoning first u would have realised dat those were extract from a book. Just learn and stop being a dumbass Ok sir sorry for saying sir.. thank you sir |