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Re: My Igbo Brothers, It Is Time To Restrategise Not Biafra by Nobody: 8:40am On Nov 11, 2015
londoner:
I am not a mister.

Can read what you highlighted in bold and tell me it is not the truth?

No one is saying they has not been systematic neglect of the SE but we have also neglected our own region. Especially state governors. We have some of the most selfish governors. It is only now that we have one or two good ones.

For many years successive state government have collected allocation and produced substandard roads that do not last. Many will just use substandard materials in everything to be able to pocket the money.

While states like Cross River and Akwa Ibom have been able to churn out good roads and create tourist hubs due to a continuity of leadership that had the good of the states as a consideration.

Because of a lack of good leaders and the general selfish nature of Igbos once in positions of responsibility most Igbos will not support the idea of Biafra at this point.

Someone's writeup:

In saner climes the great evils and injustices being perpetrated by the born-to-rule bigots and their Southern stooges can never be tolerated or cordoned; the whites can't tolerate such display of arrogance. Pray, tell, a country that is managing evils and injustices, and is still experiencing development?

If for over 50 years of waiting and hoping for a better Nigeria have been fruitless with so many innocent people being sacrificed and still being sacrificed then it proved that the Nigerian project cannot work.
Britain made a fundamental error to join strange bedfellows - ethnic nationalities who have different aspirations and irreconcilable value systems. Keeping quiet and docile and feigning ignorance of the grave situation in the polity is a greater evil itself.

India, Pakistan and Bangladesh were once a country created by the same British. Knowing that they cannot stay put together because India is predominantly Hindu, Pakistan Muslim and Bangladesh was more or less poor, they had to seek their separate nations.
The earlier the reality is dawned on the citizenry to do the needful the better for everyone.
Many confused fellows main wish is for Nigeria to continue to manage staying put in a cesspit, for the sake of false unity of 'One Nigeria'.

Some Southerners are still managing to stay in the North against their wish. Some are there to answer the national call, and have ended up getting swallowed up in the bloodshed and carnage of the day.

Many Southern stooges believe the only way to allow our ethnic diferences work in Nigeria is to allow the Feudal Islamic Fulanis rape your women, kill your children, pillage your land, destroy your ecosystem, put an emirate on your land and then convert you to their murderous, blood-thirsty religion of Islam. Biafrans are the only ones who have resisted the Hausa-Fulanis and their Yoruba slaves (who have met the conditions for peace already by having Emir imposed on them in their land).

Biafrans can never meet the Hausa-Fulanis conditions for One Nigeria, and Hausa-Fulanis do not desire a Nigeria free of injustice. There can't be peace with feudals wanting to rule over Republicans forever.

One truth you must take note is that Biafrans do not make good slaves. The whites can bear you witness.

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Re: My Igbo Brothers, It Is Time To Restrategise Not Biafra by XBLadez: 8:41am On Nov 11, 2015
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omenka:
The IPOD protesters are nothing more than a bunch of paid TAN thugs re-activated by some sore losers in the PDP. Simple.
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PDP has got nothing to do with IPOD.

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Re: My Igbo Brothers, It Is Time To Restrategise Not Biafra by XBLadez: 8:48am On Nov 11, 2015
londoner:
I don't think it is about Jonathan losing the election but the anti-Igbo sentiment which happened around that time. Although there is a long history of it there was a straw that broke the camels back. The utterances of the Oba and Buhari's 5% remarks basically confirmed to Igbos that they will always be considered underfoot.

There is often a general sentiment that Igbos are second class citizens in Nigeria ( not withstanding the few tokens). There is also a belief that an Igbo will never be president and this is without considering there may be some fitting candidates but their Igbo heritage discounts them in the minds of people.

I too believe that the call for Biafra is unnecessary and it is Igboland that is suffering. The reawakening towards the east should have been used more constructively.
What is happening now is a wasted opportunity.

If you feel perpetually unequal in a society you look for somewhere else to call home. Nigeria has ignored that feeling of both the Igbos and the oil producing tribes for too long.

I'm proudly Nigerian and would rather see genuine conciliation than any Biafra. Aside the Nigeria issue Igbos themselves need to tell themselves the truth about their own Igbo leaders and how they have woefully neglected their states and how Igbo businessmen have rejected the idea of building up their region to the point that they may look down on someone who has not gone to Lagos or Abuja to invest or do business. Igbos have to look at their own mentality too. It's very easy to lump all the blame on the rest of Nigeria but they lie to themselves if they do that.
Those have always been my point:-
Our so-called leaders aka Red Cap Chiefs Thieves who claim they represent us but only fight for their own interest
And the businessmen who believe they can't make it elsewhere except in Lagos and Abuja. The damage has gone far deep enough but I still believe it's never too late to correct things. The first step should be to create and install good business opportunities in the whole of the SE to a larger extent, then the agitation for Biafra can follow
Re: My Igbo Brothers, It Is Time To Restrategise Not Biafra by cmoneke: 8:57am On Nov 11, 2015
Super1Star:


Who told you there was no rebuilding fund for SE in 1970?
Ok then tell us wat d name of d rebuilding fun is called n who sign it lol my bro u no get talk
Re: My Igbo Brothers, It Is Time To Restrategise Not Biafra by londoner: 9:04am On Nov 11, 2015
kingzizzy:


Yes there are Igbosveho believes in Nigeria, mostly those born or raised outside Igboland, but they are a very small minority. I would say they are probably less than 10%

That's not true. Even the pics of marches are not even up to 500,000 people in one place and this is inside Igboland. If they won't march for Biafra do you think they will fight and risk dying for Biafra? You need to wake up and smell the coffee. The fact that someone wants to see a better Igboland does not mean they don't want that Igboland to remain part of Nigeria. They way in which this Kanu madman and his followers want to achieve their aim gives people little option but to disassociate themselves from the Biafra agitation.

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Re: My Igbo Brothers, It Is Time To Restrategise Not Biafra by Nobody: 9:06am On Nov 11, 2015
EUROBOMBER:

That is why I came back from retirement, to open threads. cheesy cheesy
ok good luck to ya but I believe in BIAFRA
Re: My Igbo Brothers, It Is Time To Restrategise Not Biafra by londoner: 9:06am On Nov 11, 2015
Pavore9:
I believe more in restructuring Nigeria into regions with the power at the centre weakened. Let every region stretch themselves intellectually to develop at their own chosen pace as against the feeding bottle federalism that is obtainable today. It will mean that if a region chooses to be lazy, other regions will no longer continue to subsidize them and they are forced to sit up! Regionalism will ginger the spirit of competition to outdo each other in development.

Nigeria today is akin to a school that operates a system that mass promotes its students, so what is the point in studying hard! angry

Agreed 100%

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Re: My Igbo Brothers, It Is Time To Restrategise Not Biafra by trapQ: 9:09am On Nov 11, 2015
were your forefathers held at gunpoint when they agreed to become Nigerians??
kingzizzy:


It doesn't matter if Igbos are calling for Biafra because Jonathan lost or because the colour of the Moon has changed. The important thing here is that if the over 40 million Igbo nation decide for whatever reason to leave Nigeria, a British contraption they were forced into, then nobody has the right to tell them otherwise.
Re: My Igbo Brothers, It Is Time To Restrategise Not Biafra by londoner: 9:12am On Nov 11, 2015
XBLadez:

Those have always been my point:-
Our so-called leaders aka Red Cap Chiefs Thieves who claim they represent us but only fight for their own interest
And the businessmen who believe they can't make it elsewhere except in Lagos and Abuja. The damage has gone far deep enough but I still believe it's never too late to correct things. The first step should be to create and install good business opportunities in the whole of the SE to a larger extent, then the agitation for Biafra can follow

It's now a culture and mindset and I don't think it is due to lack of business opportunities either

I don't believe in Biafra but a better region. In fact Nigeria becoming regional with a weaker federal centre is the solution not Biafra.

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Re: My Igbo Brothers, It Is Time To Restrategise Not Biafra by londoner: 9:12am On Nov 11, 2015
trapQ:
were your forefathers held at gunpoint when they agreed to become Nigerians??

Pretty much.

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Re: My Igbo Brothers, It Is Time To Restrategise Not Biafra by londoner: 9:16am On Nov 11, 2015
Even if Biafra became a reality do you really see this kanu man handing over to the people the right to vote who leads them?

Will he not just install himself like an emperor and divide the spoils of Biafra between himself and his men?

The man is greedy for power.

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Re: My Igbo Brothers, It Is Time To Restrategise Not Biafra by Nobody: 9:17am On Nov 11, 2015
EUROBOMBER:
I personally think that the loud call for Biafra by some misguided few is very unnecessary. Why this hypocrisy? Jonathan arrested a lot of MASSOB members and we didn't have this type of protests.

Jonathan promised that he was going to finish the second Niger bridge before 2015 and he did not do it! Why did Jonathan not build the deep seaport at Ibaka which would definitely positively impact the economy of the east after 5yr Jonathan is not Igbo; he is ijaw. The ijaws are a highly unreliable and treacherous group of people. The behaviour of edwin clark says it all while on nairaland we have barcanista aka tonyebarcanista. It was barcanista that started the talk of Lower Niger comprising the SS & SE but today he is describing Igbos as land grabbers and expansionists.

Let us be sincere with ourselves, this sudden loud call for Biafra is linked to Jonathan's defeat at the polls otherwise why didn't we use the opportunity when Jonathan was there to actualise Biafra? Why do we now expect Buhari to give us the Biafra?

There is nothing wrong in making mistakes and we should accept that we made a political mistake by voting the weak ijaw man in the person Jonathan. let us begin to reach out to the other big two i.e the north and the west to see how we can produce the next president after Buhari.

And for those of you that hate Buhari so much, you can at least console yourself with the fact that he will not rule forever.

Power is transient.

A word is enough for the wise.


I see no wisdom in ur post.

It's just incoherent gibberish

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Re: My Igbo Brothers, It Is Time To Restrategise Not Biafra by Nobody: 9:18am On Nov 11, 2015
omenka:
The IPOD protesters are nothing more than a bunch of paid TAN thugs re-activated by some sore losers in the PDP. Simple.

Looooooooooooooooooool
Re: My Igbo Brothers, It Is Time To Restrategise Not Biafra by Nobody: 9:19am On Nov 11, 2015
EternalTruths:



You keep making the mistake of thinking that Biafra is a PDP affair


Biafra is the cry of an oppressed people



Talk to your masters up North and side West to address the anti Igbo actions cool

It is time for us to move on like the big tribe that we are. We can easily get the presidency if we reach out to parts of the north and the SW.

let us learn diplomacy and humility.

There is a time to stoop to conquer.

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Re: My Igbo Brothers, It Is Time To Restrategise Not Biafra by XBLadez: 9:20am On Nov 11, 2015
londoner:


It's now a culture and mindset and I don't think it is due to lack of business opportunities either

I don't believe in Biafra but a better region. In fact Nigeria becoming regional with a weaker federal centre is the solution not Biafra.

Hahaha! That, my friend, I don't think will be possible. The federal centre itself controls and manipulates the fate of these regions
Re: My Igbo Brothers, It Is Time To Restrategise Not Biafra by Nobody: 9:27am On Nov 11, 2015
chuna1985:



I see no wisdom in ur post.

It's just incoherent gibberish

It is for those that have brains not for your Biafra chanting type.

Gerrit?

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Re: My Igbo Brothers, It Is Time To Restrategise Not Biafra by Nobody: 9:30am On Nov 11, 2015
xtrorse:


It's far honourable to die for a cause than to die as a slave and for nothing in Lord Lugard's cage...

Nobody made us slaves, we made ourselves slaves by refusing to apply ordinary common sense and diplomacy.

Let us come together and push one Igbo man while reaching out to the north and SW and see if he will not win?

All we do is shout and cry but have we taken the necessary steps? No!

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Re: My Igbo Brothers, It Is Time To Restrategise Not Biafra by Nobody: 9:32am On Nov 11, 2015
londoner:
I don't think it is about Jonathan losing the election but the anti-Igbo sentiment which happened around that time. Although there is a long history of it there was a straw that broke the camels back. The utterances of the Oba and Buhari's 5% remarks basically confirmed to Igbos that they will always be considered underfoot.

There is often a general sentiment that Igbos are second class citizens in Nigeria ( not withstanding the few tokens). There is also a belief that an Igbo will never be president and this is without considering there may be some fitting candidates but their Igbo heritage discounts them in the minds of people.

I too believe that the call for Biafra is unnecessary and it is Igboland that is suffering. The reawakening towards the east should have been used more constructively.
What is happening now is a wasted opportunity.

If you feel perpetually unequal in a society you look for somewhere else to call home. Nigeria has ignored that feeling of both the Igbos and the oil producing tribes for too long.

I'm proudly Nigerian and would rather see genuine conciliation than any Biafra. Aside the Nigeria issue Igbos themselves need to tell themselves the truth about their own Igbo leaders and how they have woefully neglected their states and how Igbo businessmen have rejected the idea of building up their region to the point that they may look down on someone who has not gone to Lagos or Abuja to invest or do business. Igbos have to look at their own mentality too. It's very easy to lump all the blame on the rest of Nigeria but they lie to themselves if they do that.

God bless you. This is our problem, always blaming other people but never ourselves. i smh.

For how much longer can we continue like this please?

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Re: My Igbo Brothers, It Is Time To Restrategise Not Biafra by jpphilips(m): 9:35am On Nov 11, 2015
kingzizzy:


It doesn't matter if Igbos are calling for Biafra because Jonathan lost or because the colour of the Moon has changed. The important thing here is that if the over 40 million Igbo nation decide for whatever reason to leave Nigeria, a British contraption they were forced into, then nobody has the right to tell them otherwise.

Where is the census result that showed Igbos are 40m? Have you conducted a plebiscite to know what number is pro and against?
Funny enough, educated Igbos are so angry yet when they voice their opinion you label them Yorubas.
Let me tell you for the records that the referendum report will shock you. Kanu already knows that the reason he hasn't mentioned it yet.

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Re: My Igbo Brothers, It Is Time To Restrategise Not Biafra by simplycarro: 9:38am On Nov 11, 2015
jpphilips:


Where is the census result that showed Igbos are 40m? Have you conducted a plebiscite to know what number is pro and against?
Funny enough, educated Igbos are so angry yet when they voice their opinion you label them Yorubas.
Let me tell you for the records that the referendum report will shock you. Kanu already knows that the reason he hasn't mentioned it yet.

Your signature is apt and very profound.
Re: My Igbo Brothers, It Is Time To Restrategise Not Biafra by Nobody: 9:40am On Nov 11, 2015
jpphilips:


Where is the census result that showed Igbos are 40m? Have you conducted a plebiscite to know what number is pro and against?
Funny enough, educated Igbos are so angry yet when they voice their opinion you label them Yorubas.
Let me tell you for the records that the referendum report will shock you. Kanu already knows that the reason he hasn't mentioned it yet.

Don't mind these unreasonable Biafra people.

Let referendum be conducted so that they can be shamed for life.

Nonsense.

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Re: My Igbo Brothers, It Is Time To Restrategise Not Biafra by gunpoint(m): 9:41am On Nov 11, 2015
trapQ:
were your forefathers held at gunpoint when they agreed to become Nigerians??
Then if i were you, i would get guns and march out of it.
So what are you waiting for?
Hurry to your death before your place is taken lipsrsealed
Re: My Igbo Brothers, It Is Time To Restrategise Not Biafra by kingzizzy: 9:42am On Nov 11, 2015
jpphilips:


Where is the census result that showed Igbos are 40m? Have you conducted a plebiscite to know what number is pro and against?
Funny enough, educated Igbos are so angry yet when they voice their opinion you label them Yorubas.
Let me tell you for the records that the referendum report will shock you. Kanu already knows that the reason he hasn't mentioned it yet.


What is shocking is that a referendum is the same thing that all the Biafran agitators want. This same referendum is what Ojukwu proposed for 3 years of the war so that hostilities would end. But everybody already knows what the outcome of the referendum hence they shout 'one Nigeria' just like Gowon did.

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Re: My Igbo Brothers, It Is Time To Restrategise Not Biafra by kingzizzy: 9:44am On Nov 11, 2015
trapQ:
were your forefathers held at gunpoint when they agreed to become Nigerians??


Of course! How do you think Lord Lugard created Nigeria? We were all made Nigerians at gun point, and we still remain Nigerians at gun point.

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Re: My Igbo Brothers, It Is Time To Restrategise Not Biafra by moderation2020: 9:47am On Nov 11, 2015
kingzizzy:


It doesn't matter if Igbos are calling for Biafra because Jonathan lost or because the colour of the Moon has changed. The important thing here is that if the over 40 million Igbo nation decide for whatever reason to leave Nigeria, a British contraption they were forced into, then nobody has the right to tell them otherwise.

thou the op meke sense but you make a better sense. you must be nwa chineke, chukwuabiama must bless you.

We are determined
We are fearless
We are resolute
We are IPOB
We are Biafrans

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Re: My Igbo Brothers, It Is Time To Restrategise Not Biafra by londoner: 9:48am On Nov 11, 2015
XBLadez:

Hahaha! That, my friend, I don't think will be possible. The federal centre itself controls and manipulates the fate of these regions

A successful Biafra is even less possible IMO.
Re: My Igbo Brothers, It Is Time To Restrategise Not Biafra by PassingShot(m): 9:49am On Nov 11, 2015
kingzizzy:


It doesn't matter if Igbos are calling for Biafra because Jonathan lost or because the colour of the Moon has changed. The important thing here is that if the over 40 million Igbo nation decide for whatever reason to leave Nigeria, a British contraption they were forced into, then nobody has the right to tell them otherwise.
Then go ahead and move out of Nigeria now. Or is anyone holding you back? And if I may ask, in what way do you think Buhari or any other person can be of help?

Please state specifically how the president can help you to actualize Biafra and which he has failed to do?

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Re: My Igbo Brothers, It Is Time To Restrategise Not Biafra by Nobody: 9:49am On Nov 11, 2015
xtrorse:


Someone's writeup:

In saner climes the great evils and injustices being perpetrated by the born-to-rule bigots and their Southern stooges can never be tolerated or cordoned; the whites can't tolerate such display of arrogance. Pray, tell, a country that is managing evils and injustices, and is still experiencing development?

If for over 50 years of waiting and hoping for a better Nigeria have been fruitless with so many innocent people being sacrificed and still being sacrificed then it proved that the Nigerian project cannot work.
Britain made a fundamental error to join strange bedfellows - ethnic nationalities who have different aspirations and irreconcilable value systems. Keeping quiet and docile and feigning ignorance of the grave situation in the polity is a greater evil itself.

India, Pakistan and Bangladesh were once a country created by the same British. Knowing that they cannot stay put together because India is predominantly Hindu, Pakistan Muslim and Bangladesh was more or less poor, they had to seek their separate nations.
The earlier the reality is dawned on the citizenry to do the needful the better for everyone.
Many confused fellows main wish is for Nigeria to continue to manage staying put in a cesspit, for the sake of false unity of 'One Nigeria'.

Some Southerners are still managing to stay in the North against their wish. Some are there to answer the national call, and have ended up getting swallowed up in the bloodshed and carnage of the day.

Many Southern stooges believe the only way to allow our ethnic diferences work in Nigeria is to allow the Feudal Islamic Fulanis rape your women, kill your children, pillage your land, destroy your ecosystem, put an emirate on your land and then convert you to their murderous, blood-thirsty religion of Islam. Biafrans are the only ones who have resisted the Hausa-Fulanis and their Yoruba slaves (who have met the conditions for peace already by having Emir imposed on them in their land).

Biafrans can never meet the Hausa-Fulanis conditions for One Nigeria, and Hausa-Fulanis do not desire a Nigeria free of injustice. There can't be peace with feudals wanting to rule over Republicans forever.

One truth you must take note is that Biafrans do not make good slaves. The whites can bear you witness.

Where is your strategy in all this Biafra agitation? This is part of our problem as Igbos. Do you think you can get Biafra by opening a pirate radio station and cursing everybody? Insulting a power like great Britain that founded Nigeria? Asking people to disrupt a church crusade simply because the founder of the church is Yoruba? telling people to gather arms and calling for killings?


Nnamdi Kanu is very daft I must confess. I think he probably takes too much London dry gin. The lunatic just sat down in London, drew a map and began to circulate as Biafra; this is astonishing! When did he consult with the minority tribes in the Niger Delta before including them in his map? Are those guys not human beings with their own rights as well? Where did he even consult with Igbos in the SE at the grass roots and at the top before drawing maps? Secession is not a joke and not a light matter at all.

We must learn to negotiate and strategize. This is our bane in national politics till today in Nigeria, we cannot form reasonable alliances and negotiate well as a people.

Honestly we are our own biggest problem and until we realise this, all this Biafran chanting will amount to nothing.

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Re: My Igbo Brothers, It Is Time To Restrategise Not Biafra by kingzizzy: 9:52am On Nov 11, 2015
PassingShot:

Then go ahead and move out of Nigeria now. Or is anyone holding you back? And if I may ask, in what way do you think Buhari or any other person can be of help?

Please state specifically how the president can help you to actualize Biafra and which he has failed to do?


The Nigerian Government should agree to a referendum in SS/SE zones
Re: My Igbo Brothers, It Is Time To Restrategise Not Biafra by Nobody: 9:52am On Nov 11, 2015
kingzizzy:



What is shocking is that a referendum is the same thing that all the Biafran agitators want. This same referendum is what Ojukwu proposed for 3 years of the war so that hostilities would end. But everybody already knows what the outcome of the referendum hence they shout 'one Nigeria' just like Gowon did.

Here again you lack strategy. You cannot secure a referendum by shouting Biafra and protesting everywhere.

Get our members in the national Assembly to start the discussion on a referendum first and let's see how it goes from there.

The powers like Britain that can even help from outside Nigeria are being insulted on the useless radio Biafra.
Re: My Igbo Brothers, It Is Time To Restrategise Not Biafra by Nobody: 9:53am On Nov 11, 2015
kingzizzy:



The Nigerian Government should agree to a referendum in SS/SE zones

Have you present a motion for referendum and it was rejected? Answer.

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