ichommy:


You dey busy here. I just dey Look you. U never start Exam abi? Oops god will help u write

KingEbukasBlog:


That's what I'm saying , the Family Guy creators already knew of this and decided to ridicule it . You could watch it on Youtube though . Neil Armstrong killed the guy who witnessed the deception in that episode .

But I dont have my doubts . Does it change anything ? Man has made it to Pluto and its real this time .

Or was it staged ?

Teempakguy:

what about islam and judaism?

FOLYKAZE:

The multiple light source,

a radiation belt which a Nasa officer was quoted saying passing through it is yet impossible,

the flying flag.

There was no stars visible too.

I got the video on Youtube. Many things were mentioned which indicate the mission was staged

FOLYKAZE:


Pluto? Guy no make me laugh abeg.

KingEbukasBlog:


No I meant images of the planet and its moon were taken and released by NASA

plaetton:


I know who designed my pc and cell phone, silly.
It wasn't an invisible fairy living outside our universe.

FOLYKAZE:


Let me have it if you have.

I will really appreciate

FOLYKAZE:

Pluto? Guy no make me laugh abeg.

KingEbukasBlog:


Isn't it the same God ? Actually Allah was used by Arabian christians before it was "hijacked"

Teempakguy:
christians also hijacked yahweh from the judaists. didn't they?

so.

herald9:

LOL. This is Naija... Not North Korea. At least they are sane enough not to be hijacking other people's religion and culture. Now see how coordinated they are.

KingEbukasBlog:


Still one God bro . But different concepts .

KingEbukasBlog:


Still one God bro . But different concepts .

Mbombo, also called Bumba, is the creator god in the religion and mythology of the Kuba of Central Africa. In the Mbombo creation myth, Mbombo was a giant in form and white in color.

The story of Mbombo's creation tells that in the beginning, Mbombo was alone, and darkness and water covered the all earth. It would happen that Mbombo came to feel an intense pain in his stomach, and then Mbombo vomited the sun, the moon, and stars. The heat and light from the sun evaporated the water covering the earth, creating clouds, and after time, the dry hills emerged from the water. Then Mbombo vomited once more, bringing forth nine animals: the leopard, called Koy Bumba; the eagle, Ponga Bumba; the crocodile, Ganda Bumba; the fish, Yo Bumba; the tortoise, Kono Bumba; a black leopard-like animal, Tsetse Bumba; a white heron, Nyanyi Bumba; a scarab; and a goat named Budi. Mbombo also vomited many men, one of them was called Loko Yima

Chukwu of Igbo religion

Ptah is the Creator god par excellence: He is considered the demiurge who existed before all other things, and by his willfulness, thought the world. It was first conceived by Thought, and realized by the Word: Ptah conceives the world by the thought of his heart and gives life through the magic of his Word. That which Ptah commanded was created, with which the constituents of nature, fauna, and flora, are contained. He also plays a role in the preservation of the world and the permanence of the royal function.

El of the canaanite religion.

I can count up to 20 of such uncreated creators in different cultures ...

johnydon22:


I have watched original NASA released videos on the Apollo mission, there wasn't no multiple light source unless reflection can be termed another light source.

Mind you Nasa does a simulation before embarking on any mission and what you might have seen might be a picture of such simulation..

johnydon22:
The Van Allen radiation belt is like an umbrella of charged particles surrounding the earth, this particle possess very high radiative charge and so dangerous to human exposure.

It was discovered in 1950s and was one of the main obstacles man had to overcome in moon trips..

The thing is the Belt is not impassable asin cannot be passed, actually it can the danger is exposing a human to high radiation and it is more than dangerous.

After many research of which Van Allen himself also contributed to, it was deducted that at the speed the probes would possess the lining of the space craft was enough protection.

Van allen radiation belt is not an impassable shield but rather just a shield of charged particles .. the high radiation is the problem not the shield.

SPEED was the solution..

johnydon22:
The moon is almost like a vacuum with gravitational pull relatively low.. The flag was not fluttering in reaction to a wind or anything but rather to it's own weight.

Take for instance when you touch an X-ray film, it flutters ...

This was the same effect the moon environment had on the flag, mind you a pole had to be crossed horizontally to keep the flag up.

The flag was not fluttering in reaction to wind but rather reaction to the effect of the astronauts were lending on it because they were fixing the flag and touching it.

If it starts fluttering in the moon environment it would continue for a little more time.. Could give you a video of a space walk and you will see strings were also fluttering, this is not wind..

fabrics are more like an X-ray film.material in zero G.. [/i][/b]

johnydon22:
Conspiracy theories really went delusional and ignorant on this one.

Cameras capture stars in relation to their power, the cameras used on the moon were rarely 33MM cameras and the light from the stars were too dim to be captured remember an even more brighter light source the sun was just around the corner..

it was impossible to capture the dim light of stars with an opposing brighter light working against it using relatively small power camera.

The astronauts also took a UV picture which captured the stars, they don't always mention this one right?

try capturing the night sky with your phone bro, you would rarely see one star in the picture depends on the magnitude of your phone's camera.

I wil add a picture of a space walk, tell me if you see stars.[/i][/b]



I have seen many of them

KingEbukasBlog:
Seriously bro

Oh Bumba creation story actually sounds ridiculous to you?

Now you are getting there.…Now you know how both the Enuma elis and the Genesis story sounds

God in igbo language ?

Ptah of egypt

So Ifeness isn't an atheist

Means God I suppose

See it confirms what I said . One God different concepts

Lmao.. So every uncreated deity of every culture now is the same as Yahweh

You need to make up your mind cus Sango is not Amadioha..

You asked for uncreated deities and you got them cus i just saw you wanted to bully teempakguy with Allah and Yahweh he threw in knowing both are of the same Abrahamic descent.. others i mentioned predates both Abrahamic deities or differs in cultural origin

johnydon22:


Lol.. Its the New Horizon space probe, not a manned mission

FOLYKAZE:


You are right.

I learnt that there is a probe moving toward edge of our solar system

plaetton:
For quite a long time, in fact since I Joined Nairaland, I and many atheists on this forum have been trying our very best define to the theists what atheism really means.
So far, no luck.

It seems that no matter how much efforts we put into it, no matter what language, no matter how subtle, no matter how plain, the people of faith never seem to, or perhaps, refuse to comprehend what atheism means, and that it is not a competing religion nor philosophy.

I figure that perhaps it has to do with something called onomatopeia .
This is the phenomenom whereby a word is associated with an act , behavior or another word, due to the pronounciation.

For example, everyone knows what Theism or Theist means.
Atheism or Atheist sound similar but opposite.
This is not correct.

Atheism and theism are not opposites.

One believes in a set of things without proof, the other does not believe same for the very obvious lack of proof.
If theists had a shred of proof for any one of their beliefs, then their beliefs would no longer be a matter of faith.

Now, for some strange reasons, theists, especially Christians, seem treat atheism as a competing religion.
It baffles me in no small way when Christians open threads trying use half baked logic to show (PERHAPS TO THEMSELVES) how asking for proof is flawed.

I have thought about this , and I think the best and easy way to make ourselves and our viewpoints understood is to rebrand ourselves.

I suggest we stop calling ourselves atheists, because there soo much misunderstanding behind that word.

I suggest we call ourselves Toothfarians

This way, we would be standing on the same pedestal with the goddists, and thereby making it very easy for them to understand where we are coming from, objectively criticize our beliefs/nonbeliefs , and vise versa.

I mean, I would rather love to hear malvisguy212, kingebukasblog, Deepsight etc to tell me that my belief in the Toothfairy is flawed, ask me to show proof, and to mock my foolishness.
That way, we could have an even match, smooth flawless arguments and debates about god and the Toothfairy.

hahn:
Toothfarians? Lol.

The truth is, nothing we do can change any theists point of view and ill tell you why. The answer is simple, "you have to realize you've been believing in fairytales". Nothing beats realization. Besides that, you have to understand that we are arguing with people who went through an education system that is antique at best.

These same people who believed that salt could cure ebola, that cannot differentiate between detergent and omo or live in a society where, "the devil pushed me to it" is an excuse for child molestation. These people don't read and find it hard to imagine that they are actually more intelligent and exposed than ancient goat herders and that's why you'll hear them say, "science has only made the world worse". If they bothered to read, they'd realize atheism is not a religion like they assume.

We live in a society that doesn't work and thus have to look onto good for miracles such as electric power supply, yes people actually pray to god to restore power, lack of quality health services and that's why out of desperation people have to pray to be healed from common malaria because it is not certain you'll live when you visit a hospital. There's no justice so the best we can do is pray god punishes those who offend us and so on and so forth.

Belief in god is what keeps most people sane in this insane society we live in.

I believe as atheists we should concern ourselves more with helping the poor, sharing books to schools, running for political posts etc if we really want to see change. Arguing with theists won't change anything because religion has created a comfort zone where ignorance is treated with high regard and you're considered evil when you seem knowledgeable and attack dogma.

johnydon22:
Oh Bumba creation story actually sounds ridiculous to you?

Now you are getting there.…Now you know how both the Enuma elis and the Genesis story sounds


Hahaha you don't really know much about the Igbo religion anyway would blame it on your Christian background..

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chukwu



The point remains you asked for uncreated creator Gods...

Ptah and Yahweh shares a similarity tho... Created everything by talking.. lol..



In Semitic lingual but refers also the supreme deity of Canaanite pentheon ....



Lmao.. So every uncreated deity of every culture now is the same as Yahweh

You need to make up your mind cus Sango is not Amadioha..

You asked for uncreated deities and you got them cus i just saw you wanted to bully teempakguy with Allah and Yahweh he threw in knowing both are of the same Abrahamic descent.. others i mentioned predates both Abrahamic deities or differs in cultural origin

Teempakguy:
toothfarian? hmmn. okay, maybe.


both hahn and plaetton are right. there is nothing stopping us from multitasking, no?

no it doesn't . . .

Ishilove:

You sef you're a stiff-necked heathen

UyiIredia:
You atheists better start coming out. The faster the better. Those of us wey don dey reason una online since go start to dey debate u face to face. Those that can't argue should pray cuz it matter even more. But una dey fear fear. Preach your atheism d way Christians preach their st*pidity.

Teempakguy:
ah . . . please don't come here oh. things are hot here.

johnydon22:
Oh Bumba creation story actually sounds ridiculous to you?
Lmao.. So every uncreated deity of every culture now is the same as Yahweh

You need to make up your mind cus Sango is not Amadioha..

You asked for uncreated deities and you got them cus i just saw you wanted to bully teempakguy with Allah and Yahweh he threw in knowing both are of the same Abrahamic descent.. others i mentioned predates both Abrahamic deities or differs in cultural origin

FOLYKAZE:



What kind of nonsense is this? If atheism and theism are not opposite, are you impling that atheism is a state of belief and idea?

Generally, we know theism is a belief. And the opposite of belief is disblief. Atheism as we know is disblieve in the existence of God as opposing to theism which is believe in the existence of God.

Thiests hold the position that a God exist.

Atheists negate this position.

If this isnt opposition I dont know what eslse to call it.

Telling us here atheism and theism are not opposite shows you dont know what you are saying.




Theism is the believe that God exist. There is nothing more to add or remove there. The issue if there is a prove for the existence of God is another thing entirely which has nothing to do with theism.

There are evidence for the existence of some theistic Gods everywhere. Some religion took after natural entities as the Gods served in it. The astrolaty religion took celestial bodies as Gods. Polytheistic and animism religion took Nature as God. You, plaetton, on this forum stated that energy is God. While we know this Gods are provable as to their existence, they remain theological body (theism). This put into trashcan your claim that theism believe in something that cannot be proven. It exposes hypocrisy and double-mouthed nature of you who once claimed energy is God and have verifiable proof of existence to turn-around and tell us theism is believe in things that cannot be proven and not opposite to atheism.

No one would prove whom God is when you dont know what you are looking for. Consciousness is God. Energy is God. Reality is God. Illusion is also God. These and many more are concepts of God which different religion embrace.

Consciousness is God of Yoruba religion.

Energy is God in Shaktism.

Reality is Hindu God.

Illution is Hindu satan.

So tell me sir, which concept of God does your atheism negates? Does your atheism applies to some Gods or all Gods?

Lets start from here

johnydon22:


It does or you are begging it to be....



Don't forget in Biological Evolution it implies gradual change in relation to reaction with natural element.



You see like i told you before, you and many atheists on this board don't really have a clue on evolutionary mechanism.

Seeing this one would deduct that evolution theory asserts a chainlike modification of trait but thats is not the case.

The evolutionary mechanism is more like a web, branches of species relating to natural environment and factors.

Interactions between these species and mutation and then natural selection leading to extinction and dominance of a surviving branch.



The problem here is that a house doesn't modify and become a 2storied building if you made a bungalow initially..

Reconciling inanimate objects to natural Raw-actions is as flawed as comparing a plastic flower to a real one.





The problem here is that in evolutionary assertion it does not stop, it keeps going in relation to the actions of more factors on the subject . .



Ok this is funny....

Am not really sure you understand what natural selection is because it sounds more like you think natural selection is a thing ..

Maybe an angel ?

Teempakguy:
i actually mentioned only judaism and islam because i wanted to show him that religions are simply reformations of earlier religions. hence they are incorrect. an average christian believes that the muslim is going to hell. how so? is it not the same God? why do christians think muslims hijacked yahweh to form allah when that's exactly what they did. how can they have the gut to say muslims are going to hell for worshipping allah when it's the same doctrine?

i also wanted to prove that the new testament God is not the same as yahweh. hence, jesus lied when he claimed the God of abraham was his dad. hence the proof that he was a phony.

inserting the extra Gods was interesting though. did you hear of mithras? i heard he was born on december first, was called the son of God and the light of the world, was born of a virgin, had a last supper and holy communion, had twelve disciples, ascended into heaven . . .

Ishilove:

This one is sango's priest