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Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by adesegun121(m): 5:20pm On Nov 20, 2015
seunlara:
there is no way terrorism won't be narrowed down to Islam. What cause is Islam fighting for? What ever treatment u get u deserve cos u people won't stop behaving abnormal. How can people think u can fight for God? Una Don turn to vampires... U v basterdized d religion... If u continue to make place unbearable for people hell is your home... All terrorist should v a change of heart biko..

Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by Nobody: 5:21pm On Nov 20, 2015
parisbookaddict:
Islam terrorizing every damn day...


This is what happens when people take commands like the ones below serious....

Qur’an 9:29—Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth, from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

"Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are harsh to the unbelievers but merciful to one another" Quran 48:29
For every verse of the Quran that is touted as "violent" and "intolerant", the answer generally lies in the preceding or the succeeding verses themselves.

The verse that you have posted is from Surah Anfal Ch. 8 verse 39. It is absolutely true and unadulterated. But didn't you notice that the verse begins with an And? Doesn't it indicate that there must be something before the verse that set the context of the verse?
Let me quote the preceding verse i.e. 8:38

Say to those who have disbelieved that if they cease hostilities, what has previously occurred will be forgiven for them. But if they return to hostility - then the precedent of the former rebellious peoples has already taken place.

Clear enough?
Verse 8:39 is in the context of those non-Muslims who were hostile to the Muslims back then. Islam is not just a spiritual entity but also a political entity. With the advent of Islam and the Muslim empire most non-Muslim tribes and kingdoms around it began attacking and waging a war against it. All seemingly "violent" verses refer to those who were at war with Muslims/Islam. As for general non-Muslims, the Quran clearly states that they must be treated with kindness and justice. Have a look at this verse:

Surah Mumtahana 60:8-9
Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly.
Allah only forbids you from those who fight you because of religion and expel you from your homes and aid in your expulsion - [forbids] that you make allies of them. And whoever makes allies of them, then it is those who are the wrongdoers.
Written 20 Feb • View Upvotes

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Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by sayitright: 5:22pm On Nov 20, 2015
lie lie I no dey lie..... If I talk dis one dey go free me abi. ?
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by Nobody: 5:22pm On Nov 20, 2015
amjoseph19:
The world in general is hypocritical when dealing with islam.. Let's face the fact. let's call a spade a spade and not a big spoon. Islam is a cancer to the world and it need to be cut off.
With all due respect to the muslim, I don't hate you guys.. You guys should stop playing the race card here and don't call me racist cause islam is not a race, it is an ideology. I love you all as humans, but I hate your ideology. It is a treat to my existence.
succint
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by iliasaa(m): 5:27pm On Nov 20, 2015
all praises are for Allah alone. am a Muslim and am proud to be a Muslim. even when some tries to damage the image of Muslims I will remain a Muslim until ppl realize that all the things are not from Muslims. no matter what Islam can never be extinguished from earth. am very sure in the nearest future ppl will come to realize how peaceful Islam is.

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Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by PLANETMARS(m): 5:29pm On Nov 20, 2015
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Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by Adek15(m): 5:31pm On Nov 20, 2015
IbnIslam:
For every verse of the Quran that is touted as "violent" and "intolerant", the answer generally lies in the preceding or the succeeding verses themselves.

The verse that you have posted is from Surah Anfal Ch. 8 verse 39. It is absolutely true and unadulterated. But didn't you notice that the verse begins with an And? Doesn't it indicate that there must be something before the verse that set the context of the verse?
Let me quote the preceding verse i.e. 8:38

Say to those who have disbelieved that if they cease hostilities, what has previously occurred will be forgiven for them. But if they return to hostility - then the precedent of the former rebellious peoples has already taken place.

Clear enough?
Verse 8:39 is in the context of those non-Muslims who were hostile to the Muslims back then. Islam is not just a spiritual entity but also a political entity. With the advent of Islam and the Muslim empire most non-Muslim tribes and kingdoms around it began attacking and waging a war against it. All seemingly "violent" verses refer to those who were at war with Muslims/Islam. As for general non-Muslims, the Quran clearly states that they must be treated with kindness and justice. Have a look at this verse:

Surah Mumtahana 60:8-9
Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly.
Allah only forbids you from those who fight you because of religion and expel you from your homes and aid in your expulsion - [forbids] that you make allies of them. And whoever makes allies of them, then it is those who are the wrongdoers.
Written 20 Feb • View Upvotes
people are hypocrites. I know they won't like ur comment.

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Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by ken4jj(m): 5:34pm On Nov 20, 2015
klax:
I know they will still come and defend their shameless behaviour. I can see some idiots among them quoting their demonic book gave to them to go ahead and kill unbeliever, ohhh..... nice one so Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Mali, Somalia etc are unbelievers too Oh........sorry the bombing of the mosque during Friday prayer we have witnessed around the world so the worshippers in those mosques too who dies in 100s are Unbelieveable

I tell you what and I repeat muslim shame on you. You are too confused and don't know what you are doing again those counties I mentioned above are 99.9% muslim pls any peace there Noooo. Fools, Virgin moral fu ckers.

Ohh, i have forgotten that today is friday. If you check well, you will see that these terrorisms are normally carried out on a friday after getting inspiration from their mosque.

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Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by parisbookaddict(f): 5:42pm On Nov 20, 2015
IbnIslam:
For every verse of the Quran that is touted as "violent" and "intolerant", the answer generally lies in the preceding or the succeeding verses themselves.

The verse that you have posted is from Surah Anfal Ch. 8 verse 39. It is absolutely true and unadulterated. But didn't you notice that the verse begins with an And? Doesn't it indicate that there must be something before the verse that set the context of the verse?
Let me quote the preceding verse i.e. 8:38

Say to those who have disbelieved that if they cease hostilities, what has previously occurred will be forgiven for them. But if they return to hostility - then the precedent of the former rebellious peoples has already taken place.

Clear enough?
Verse 8:39 is in the context of those non-Muslims who were hostile to the Muslims back then. Islam is not just a spiritual entity but also a political entity. With the advent of Islam and the Muslim empire most non-Muslim tribes and kingdoms around it began attacking and waging a war against it. All seemingly "violent" verses refer to those who were at war with Muslims/Islam. As for general non-Muslims, the Quran clearly states that they must be treated with kindness and justice. Have a look at this verse:

Surah Mumtahana 60:8-9
Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly.
Allah only forbids you from those who fight you because of religion and expel you from your homes and aid in your expulsion - [forbids] that you make allies of them. And whoever makes allies of them, then it is those who are the wrongdoers.
Written 20 Feb • View Upvotes

I saw this answer on reddit .... apparently u did copy it from there... the muslim failed to answer similar verses i gave him to explain...okay explain this one (mind u there are over 100 verses so this could take a while)

Qur’an 9:29—Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth, from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by DjAduba(m): 5:42pm On Nov 20, 2015
This terrorists are only following the commandment of the Holy Bible.

they just pretend to free few Muslim in order to malign the religion of Islam.

Exodus. 22:20 "He who sacrifices to any god, except to the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed.

What doz the word destroy mean?
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by VickyRotex(f): 5:43pm On Nov 20, 2015
rigarmortis:



You are talking plenty but saying nothing.

So if muslims use terror as a tool against governments, or segments of the society to intimidate people in furtherance of their political objectives which could go from wanting to create an islamic state to protesting the election of a non muslim and socially which could go from their hardline stance on women freedom to forcing women to cover their hair and other factors, even against their wishes, to stoning of female adulterers, not rape cases mind you, i mean two consenting adults.

All the above come with a religious undertone, and the religion is question is islam, so what do you call a muslim who wants to further the cause of allah by doing all these?

A terrorist?....yes..... but since terrorism cuts across many factors, political, religious etc and religion has many kinds, islam, xtian, budhism, the use of muslim terrorist aptly describe these people.


Okocha was a sportsman, if you say that to someone who doesnt know okocha, you leave him guessing wildly, but if you say, okocha is a footballer, you are telling him he is a sportsman whose specialism is soccer.



Honestly, I don't understand what you're saying.

But @bold, that shows you agree with me, that the word "Terrorism" cuts across various religion.

Summary is, there's more to Terrorism, than just religion.
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by parisbookaddict(f): 5:43pm On Nov 20, 2015
ken4jj:


Ohh, i have forgotten that today is friday. If you check well, you will see that these terrorisms are normally carried out on a friday after getting inspiration from their mosque.

Yes every friday like clockwork..
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by ElCapone(m): 5:44pm On Nov 20, 2015
IYANGBALI:
this one na revised standard version abandoned by all muslims grin
I really can not blame yhu in any way cos some few have chosen to portray islam in a negative light. For next time plz quran has never been revised in any way. The way our prophet delivered it is how we still have it. Yhu may only say, ppl interpret it to suit their selfish desires.
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by VickyRotex(f): 5:44pm On Nov 20, 2015
oglalasioux:

Good observation. People hide under the guise of religion to unleash their wickedness on fellow human beings. Every religion is guilty of this.

Exactly!
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by parisbookaddict(f): 5:46pm On Nov 20, 2015
DjAduba:
This terrorists are only following the commandment of the Holy Bible.

they just pretend to free few Muslim in order to malign the religion of Islam.

Exodus. 22:20 "He who sacrifices to any god, except to the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed.

What doz the word destroy mean?

Really...

Please tell us more...mr al taqiyya..even Rilway.ne001 will be impressed

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Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by Nobody: 5:46pm On Nov 20, 2015
iliasaa:
all praises are for Allah alone. am a Muslim and am proud to be a Muslim. even when some tries to damage the image of Muslims I will remain a Muslim until ppl realize that all the things are not from Muslims. no matter what Islam can never be extinguished from earth. am very sure in the nearest future ppl will come to realize how peaceful Islam is.

What kind of a human being are you? You are excited that the jihadist are only freeing fellow muslims. Blood thirsty religion. You want the world for yourselves alone. If this world wants to know peace then they should ban islam in all countries.
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by tomzman: 5:49pm On Nov 20, 2015
amjoseph19:
The world in general is hypocritical when dealing with islam.. Let's face the fact. let's call a spade a spade and not a big spoon. Islam is a cancer to the world and it need to be cut off.
With all due respect to the muslim, I don't hate you guys.. You guys should stop playing the race card here and don't call me racist cause islam is not a race, it is an ideology. I love you all as humans, but I hate your ideology. It is a treat to my existence.
You said it all. It's a pity I am only allowed to like your post once. Islam is a cancer to the world!
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by ElCapone(m): 5:49pm On Nov 20, 2015
uzoonyx:
But why is it so contradictory in reference to the previous Quran quotation
One thing about quranic verses is that, they were revealed in certain situations that are or were different from other situations. So other verses reffering to killing of infidels were revealed during the heat of battles. Its nt even allowed islamically to attack a grp of ppl unprovoked. Yhu only go to war based on self defence, even in da heat of battle yhu have to abide to some strict rules and codes like, nt killing non combatants, no killing of women and children, no destruction of buildings and other places of worship be it an aetheist temple, no mutilation of corpses, no chasing or running after enemy even after they have retreat or maltreating ur enemy when dey surrender. If yhu can notice, dis terrorists have broken all da listed codes.
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by axiliborha(f): 5:50pm On Nov 20, 2015
parisbookaddict:
Islam terrorizing every damn day...


This is what happens when people take commands like the ones below serious....

Qur’an 9:29—Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth, from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

"Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are harsh to the unbelievers but merciful to one another" Quran 48:29
harsh to the unbelivers abi.....so those people they have killed are unbelievers is that what those ISIS have learnt and is that what they are doing......western education is an unbelieving education and should be tarnished including those have passed through it.....wait what me I don't understand is that the guns and the bombs they are using to fight the western are made by who? Amadioha or sango or is it their dumb fuckedup brain that built it isn't it still the same westerners they are killing that made it. How can you expect a blind man to see without the help of deaf man and vice versa Islam as a whole are just forcing the world to end to be the antichrist but the antichrist isn't dumbfucks that didn't go to school
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by VickyRotex(f): 5:50pm On Nov 20, 2015
thazz:


Because when a radical person from other religion does samething, the media won't call Terrorist.. they simply call name like "Shooting" "Homicide"

Just goto youtube and type "Joseph Kony"

Terrorism is a plaugue and we must collectively fight it...



Thank you for this!
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by oyinsho(f): 5:51pm On Nov 20, 2015
amjoseph19:
Make I do go learn Quran. One can't just tell.

It is not worth it......obviously they are mean people. I really wonder if Islam is truly a religion of PEACE
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by Atiloszy(f): 5:58pm On Nov 20, 2015
Booyakasha:
You see, Islam is the worst thing that has ever happened to planet earth. angry
Shut up
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by keriafe(m): 6:01pm On Nov 20, 2015
All terrorist are islam by default..what are they still defending
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by princejayboss: 6:02pm On Nov 20, 2015
VickyRotex:


Yes! Terrorism has no religion. Anyone can be a Terrorist. ( A muslim, christian, an atheist, name it), can be a terrorist.

Therefore, terrorism shouldn't be narrowed down to a particular religion.


Keep deceiving yourself that terrorist has no religion..... Islam need to get re-orientation.. Because the teaching is very barbaric.


Quote me and I will teach you Quran
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by rigarmortis: 6:06pm On Nov 20, 2015
VickyRotex:



Honestly, I don't understand what you're saying.

But @bold, that shows you agree with me, that the word "Terrorism" cuts across various religion.

Summary is, there's more to Terrorism, than just religion.


This time around you are talking little, but still saying nothing.
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by VickyRotex(f): 6:07pm On Nov 20, 2015
princejayboss:



Keep deceiving yourself that terrorist has no religion..... Islam need to get re-orientation.. Because the teaching is very barbaric.


Quote me and I will teach you Quran

So every case of terrorism you've ever heard of is Islam?

I employ you guys to read more please.

Anyone can be a Terrorist!
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by ExInferis(m): 6:08pm On Nov 20, 2015
Booyakasha:
You see, Islam is the worst thing that has ever happened to planet earth. angry

.....and there isn't a damn thing you or anyone can do about it.
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by abaqos: 6:09pm On Nov 20, 2015
Admin what is the source of your report that points to the fact that those who recited QURAN were released. I have been following the event on BBC from the onset and noting of such was reported.please don't report what is wrong but because most people will just take things as you serve them. Thanks
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by VickyRotex(f): 6:09pm On Nov 20, 2015
rigarmortis:



This time around you are talking little, but still saying nothing.

You wrote alot of things there, and I don't understand, but yet I dint insult you.

But you?

Please learn how to talk to people. Thank You!
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by VickyRotex(f): 6:11pm On Nov 20, 2015
abaqos:
Admin what is the source of your report that points to the fact that those who recited QURAN were released. I have been following the event on BBC from the onset and noting of such was reported.please don't report what is wrong but because most people will just take things as you serve them. Thanks

If you truly have been following BBC like you said, then you'll know the Op is right.

It was stated earlier on BBC and Aljazeera that they released about 2 people who could recite the quran.
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by Nnamoo77: 6:11pm On Nov 20, 2015
Am busy learning Koran... Although am a Christian, jst doing it in case I fall into dis kind problem......! May almighty God save us...!
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by mbhs139(m): 6:14pm On Nov 20, 2015
Booyakasha:
You see, Islam is the worst thing that has ever happened to planet earth. angry

I clicked on the link to see the video as claimed but was disappointed when I didn't see anywhere where you claimed they were releasing people who could read the quran

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