Yujin:

And who told you our governors have not built more than that? We aren't talking about schools and health centres here. Which region performs better than the Igbo region in education? In health, we are among the first two all over Nigeria so what are you talking about? Its only Ndigbo who really know how the SE is surviving with the over population there but for how long shall we live as though we have no federal government? Why not open up the ports in eastern part of Nigeria? Yar'adua signed millions to dredge from the ocean up to baro in Niger state. What do you have to say about that?

drshrewd:
Amaechi secondary schools

TheGoodJoe:


Gov. Amaechi built 500 and you are talking of 50. In the former area I stayed in Port Harcourt at D-Line, in that small location, we had Three of these kind of schools in the pic below. Orogbum, Nkpolo Oroworukwu and Oromineke.

TheGoodJoe:


You can not deny the Igbos lack behind in a lot of areas. For instance, Aba can not compare to one tenth of the infrastructural development of Uyo. If these developments were there, I think we would see so much clamor for Igbos in terms of Federal appointments.

Abagworo:


Apart from road which infrastructure does Uyo have more than Aba? Most people doing the IPOB nonsense are those bitter about Jonathan's loss but it does not change the fact that Igboland has little federal presence. My anger is that Jonathan scammed Igbos for 6 years without improving our federal roads at all. If the federal roads that transverse through Aba were good, things would have been better for residents.

Afam4eva:

You just showed me a single picture out of 500./I can also show you one picture and claim that the Anambra state government built 1000 world class schools. You have to prove that Amaechi actually did build 500 schools.

Afam4eva:

You just showed me a single picture out of 500./I can also show you one picture and claim that the Anambra state government built 1000 world class schools. You have to prove that Amaechi actually did build 500 schools.

TheGoodJoe:


Amaechi built Federal Roads running up to N100 Billion and later the Federal Government balanced the State the money. That is why I want Anger channeled towards the leaders who are not working in the state than pointing fingers easily at what the Federal Government did not do.

Abagworo:


Apart from road which infrastructure does Uyo have more than Aba? Most people doing the IPOB nonsense are those bitter about Jonathan's loss but it does not change the fact that Igboland has little federal presence. My anger is that Jonathan scammed Igbos for 6 years without improving our federal roads at all. If the federal roads that transverse through Aba were good, things would have been better for residents.

tonychristopher:


Oga you are not Igbo and there is nothing like half measured Igbo

When you talk about akwa ibom I laugh ...Oga I am an anambra man and we are proud ...when did you guys start comparing yourself with us


Hmmmmmm nawa


Or do you want us to measure our development in my place . .both human economic and infrastructure anambra is far ahead ...have you not seen have you not heard

Keep calling aba... They are building it but I am anambra and you are no Igbo not even half

safarigirl:
don't insult my akwa-Ibom brother mbok, we have stronger ties to them than Anambrarians

Abagworo:


Apart from road which infrastructure does Uyo have more than Aba? Most people doing the IPOB nonsense are those bitter about Jonathan's loss but it does not change the fact that Igboland has little federal presence. My anger is that Jonathan scammed Igbos for 6 years without improving our federal roads at all. If the federal roads that transverse through Aba were good, things would have been better for residents.

TheGoodJoe:


Leave that talk, there is no debate in Amaechi's educational development. I told you in my former area alone, we have three. At Rumukwrushi area in Port Harcourt they are three. It is like that in many areas.

Afam4eva:

I'm not doubting you. I just need proof just like you requested of me. If you can't do that then o can't obligebyoi. Just accept that some SE governor's have also built tens of schools.

Afam4eva:

You just showed me a single picture out of 500./I can also show you one picture and claim that the Anambra state government built 1000 world class schools. You have to prove that Amaechi actually did build 500 schools.

Rotimi Amaechi achievements as a governor is the most under reported. those beautiful schools are all over the nook and crannies of the state____their is no mile around the state that you can't find atleast one of those schools.the great thing about those projects is that he built those schools from the scratch after demolishing the old ones which he felt was below standard.The primary schools are each equipped with ICT facility, modern library, science laboratory, football field, basketball pitch, volleyball pitch, a sick bay, nursery playground. He also employed over 13,000 trained graduates to man those schools___Have you ever wondered why Port Harcourt became the first city in sub Saharan Africa to win the World book capital ___ Amaechi is by far the most underrated achievers of our time

Abagworo:


Rivers is richer than the entire 5 Southeast States combined and Amaechi only did one federal road from Port Harcourt to Omerelu. Akwa Ibom is also richer than the 5 SE States combined and equally did feferal roads. However both Rivers and Akwa Ibom have very bad roads even with all the wealth.


IMHO the Southeast Governors tried their best amidst very paltry income which is usually almost exhausted on recurrent expenditure.

fistonati:
I blame ur teachers for ur lack of good English and morality

TheGoodJoe:


I did not say did not build more than ten schools. Did they build them up to Amaechi's standard?

The governors can do more and we should hold them accountable to do more. The Igbos are uniting to march for their own country. If they march this way against their corrupt leaders, they will get better results.

Calling the billions they receive paltry like someone above is accepting that these leaders have a right to waste the resources assigned to the states.

The wastages of resources is unacceptable. If the Igbos are okay with it, what is my own.

tonychristopher:



Shut up and go to anambra my state and see education and its standards


How many of your people churn out the finest in Nigerian education ?

TheGoodJoe:



Are you saying the schools in Anambra are up to the quality of the schools in Port Harcourt? If they are, then you have an amazing Governor.

As for churning out the finest in education, it is not a competition. What I know is that, the strides Amaechi took in Rivers State's standard of education will lead to the development of brilliant minds in the state.

That is what I want for all states and that is why I want Nigerians demanding accountability from our leaders. Especially those close to us. Like the Governors and LGA chairmen that get regular allocations.

TheGoodJoe:



Show me and shut me up. For now, no bridges and Ports from the Federal government. That does not stop development in the States.

tonychristopher:


why are you getting crazier by the day...JONATHAN Scamed igbo, oh how? he did not scam you but SAI BUHARI scammed you with phanthom waterver


Cant you just think for once

Abagworo:


Yes he scammed Igbos. Where are the railways, international airports, completed highways and 2nd Niger bridge? Buhari is doing well fighting corruption for now and most importantly work has resumed on Port Harcourt- Owerri highway which if completed is to Buhsri's glory. I'm proud of helping oust the scammer.

owobokiri:


To tie the struggle for a free igboland with the electoral fortunes of one Jonathan is the height of insanity... You have been pushing this warry argeument here to end against all reasonable counsel... i dont know what is wrong with you... In another thread you were busy preparing all sorts of spurious excuses for a northern "revenge" against igbos/Igbos for bringing down one despicable mosque at onitsha.. You conviniently ignored the fact that 9 innocent igbos were maimed by Nigerias security outfits commanded by northerners and that this massacer directly elicited the violent reaction from a hitherto peaceful protest... Some of you just need to dry up.. You cant sacrifice the whole-collective interest of the igbos just because you are a fanatic fan of one bemused Daurra upstart... If you are igbo as you always claim, you should learn to respect the views of the majority.. You dont need to agree with the majority but making it look like igbos are the pugnacious group in this dispensation , in the face of all sorts of flagrant taunts and marginalisations by Abuja/Buharis, as i said earlier is the height of insanity... Abagworo, go and sit down!!!

Yujin:

Did I tell you we are in wont of schools? Of most of the secondary school competitions in Nigeria, Anambra of recent has come tops. Does that not tell you that education therein is topnotch? How many power plants did FG build in the SE as against that built in the other regions? How many economic stimulating infrastructures did they situate in the SE to support the population density there?

TheGoodJoe:


[b]I am saying most of the questions you guys channel to the Federal government should be channeled to your governors. You guys never or hardly see that your governors get allocations from the Federal government and they are suppose to work so you people can feel the presence of the government.

There were schools in Port Harcourt, long before Gov. Amaechi. That did not stop Amaechi from bulldozing them down and building schools of qualities he considered the standard of the state.

Are your state schools top quality. The Primary schools Amaechi built are free of charge with Uniforms, Socks, Sandals, exercise and textbooks free. That did not stop him from employing over 13000 youths to work in the schools.

So keep waiting for the Federal government to do projects that will impact the states economically and do not ask your leaders why they do not carry out economic stimulating projects.

How many did the Federal Government do for Rivers State? The Bridges, Flyovers, Land reclamation projects and Agricultural projects were all state funded. [/b]

Mordecai:


First of all, TheGoodJoe, I think you are just parroting Amaechi's propaganda, seeing as most of your audience do not stay at Port Harcourt and know little about what you are saying and thus cannot prove you wrong.

As much as infrastructure is needed to boost education, infrastructure does not "educate". People and institutions do. We have learnt that institutions develop society, not buildings, not the whole chimichaga you attribute to Amaechi as achievements.

Amaechi did not bring development to Rivers State because he began killing all the institutions there. He succeeded in killing the judiciary. The healthcare sector was dying too, because he instituted free healthcare for everyone, and then refused to fund it. Months into the programme, the whole scheme collapsed. And you should not argue about it, because these are facts. Free healthcare is dead in Rivers State today, even long before the end of Amaechi's administration.

His monorail project - do we really have to tell you it was a white elephant project and a waste of funds?

Not to waste time on Amaechi, let me deal with your assertion that IPOB should direct the protests at Igbo leaders.

You are aware of the idiom - first chase away the wild fox, then we can warn the hen against venturing far into the wild.

The Igbo have their leaders, but who ends up as Governors? Those whom the Federal Government foists on them. We have not forgotten the case of Ngige/Uba, Uba/Peter Obi, Ngige/Obiano. These were all struggles wherein the FG tried to foist their candidate on Anambrarians. While Anambra has been successful in holding their own, other states haven't. You can remember that Chinua Achebe, of blessed memory, even refused national honours from Obasanjo for this same reason.

Because Anambra has been able to keep the leaders it wants, Anambra is working today. Institutions are working. And despite not having to waste money building "Amaechi" model schools, they produce the best students nationwide, at least according to the statistics we have today. They have working hospitals, where citizens can at least get attention without having to go to India. They do not need to, like Amaechi, buy big Mobile healthcare vans that eventually get dumped in BMSH Port Harcourt, after three months. A waste of resources. They have a government that is still carrying out massive projects even when other states can barely pay salaries. This is because they have been able to resist the FG and hold their own. That is the model that gives IPOB hope that with a state of their own, the South East can develop rapidly.

Another case in point, who does the FG want to negotiate with over Biafra? The protesters or the Governors? If they really want peace will they not release Kanu and attempt negotiating with him?

So in a nutshell, IPOB is not a crusade against bad governance. It clearly isn't. It is a protest against the system that gives rise to the bad governance.

If you really do not understand this, then you chose not to.

Mordecai:


First of all, TheGoodJoe, I think you are just parroting Amaechi's propaganda, seeing as most of your audience do not stay at Port Harcourt and know little about what you are saying and thus cannot prove you wrong.

As much as infrastructure is needed to boost education, infrastructure does not "educate". People and institutions do. We have learnt that institutions develop society, not buildings, not the whole chimichaga you attribute to Amaechi as achievements.

Amaechi did not bring development to Rivers State because he began killing all the institutions there. He succeeded in killing the judiciary. The healthcare sector was dying too, because he instituted free healthcare for everyone, and then refused to fund it. Months into the programme, the whole scheme collapsed. And you should not argue about it, because these are facts. Free healthcare is dead in Rivers State today, even long before the end of Amaechi's administration.

His monorail project - do we really have to tell you it was a white elephant project and a waste of funds?

Not to waste time on Amaechi, let me deal with your assertion that IPOB should direct the protests at Igbo leaders.

You are aware of the idiom - first chase away the wild fox, then we can warn the hen against venturing far into the wild.

The Igbo have their leaders, but who ends up as Governors? Those whom the Federal Government foists on them. We have not forgotten the case of Ngige/Uba, Uba/Peter Obi, Ngige/Obiano. These were all struggles wherein the FG tried to foist their candidate on Anambrarians. While Anambra has been successful in holding their own, other states haven't. You can remember that Chinua Achebe, of blessed memory, even refused national honours from Obasanjo for this same reason.

Because Anambra has been able to keep the leaders it wants, Anambra is working today. Institutions are working. And despite not having to waste money building "Amaechi" model schools, they produce the best students nationwide, at least according to the statistics we have today. They have working hospitals, where citizens can at least get attention without having to go to India. They do not need to, like Amaechi, buy big Mobile healthcare vans that eventually get dumped in BMSH Port Harcourt, after three months. A waste of resources. They have a government that is still carrying out massive projects even when other states can barely pay salaries. This is because they have been able to resist the FG and hold their own. That is the model that gives IPOB hope that with a state of their own, the South East can develop rapidly.

Another case in point, who does the FG want to negotiate with over Biafra? The protesters or the Governors? If they really want peace will they not release Kanu and attempt negotiating with him?

So in a nutshell, IPOB is not a crusade against bad governance. It clearly isn't. It is a protest against the system that gives rise to the bad governance.

If you really do not understand this, then you chose not to.

nigga I don't think you've been to PH beforeif not you would not have been typing badadash

you said:
"As much as infrastructure is needed to boost education, infrastructure does not "educate". People and institutions do. We have learnt that institutions develop society, not buildings, not the whole chimichaga you attribute to Amaechi as achievements"

since you do not reside in Rivers state I will obliged to educate you. Amaechi made a radical and holistic revolution in the education sector. he did not only built hundreds of second to non public schools in the country but he also employed and trained over 13,000 teachers :o____can you beat that. even the then FG never employed as much in its entire dispensation. check out the job section of Nairaland you will find out that the thread about that massive employment is the only public employment thread that has been alive for over three years now. check it out here https://www.nairaland.com/1023351/rivers-state-teachers-recruitment-2012 this is not propaganda you will find over 600,000 posts of benefitiaries____These were previously poor unemployed graduates. Amaechi hardly advertise his achievement and most of his achievements are even mostly under reported. and hey, don't expect immediate results as these is wholistic revamping of the state's educational sector that took several years to complete and just materialize barely two years ago when the best of infrastructure met the best of brain. just watch out for Rivers State in the next 5 to 8yrs

you also said:

"Amaechi did not bring development to Rivers State because he began killing all the institutions there. He succeeded in killing the judiciary. The healthcare sector was dying too, because he instituted free healthcare for everyone, and then refused to fund it. Months into the programme, the whole scheme collapsed. And you should not argue about it, because these are facts. Free healthcare is dead in Rivers State today, even long before the end of Amaechi's administration"

you are indeed a novice in Rivers state affair. he killed judiciary you said when the government in the center can not allow him appoint a chief judge? you must be rambunctiously discombobulated. go read the constitution of Nigeria dude

where did you get your info that the free medical care program was not working. why are you bent at discrediting good governance?

how can you say the monorail project is a waste when Architech Namadi Sambo the former VP during his campaign in PH said if Wike should be elected as governor he would complete the project. that Project is one of Amachi's legacy project that I love so much. I know you may not know the value of a monorail especially in modern Urban transit that's why you called it a wast. for your info that monorail was conceived to be completed in Phases to link up old PH township to as far as Eleme. monorail projects all over the world takes years to complete its not a cut and nail project that you can complete with a go. If you really understand the politics of how the private partners who are even the major financier of the project pulled out you will really appreciate the then State governor on the level of the project.

TheGoodJoe:


Amaechi built Federal Roads running up to N100 Billion and later the Federal Government balanced the State the money. That is why I want Anger channeled towards the leaders who are not working in the state than pointing fingers easily at what the Federal Government did not do.

drshrewd:

[b]nigga I don't think you've been to PH beforeif not you would not have been typing badadash

you said:
"As much as infrastructure is needed to boost education, infrastructure does not "educate". People and institutions do. We have learnt that institutions develop society, not buildings, not the whole chimichaga you attribute to Amaechi as achievements"

since you do not reside in Rivers state I will obliged to educate you. Amaechi made a radical and holistic revolution in the education sector. he did not only built hundreds of second to non public schools in the country but he also employed and trained over 13,000 teachers :o____can you beat that. even the then FG never employed as much in its entire dispensation. check out the job section of Nairaland you will find out that the thread about that massive employment is the only public employment thread that has been alive for over three years now. check it out here https://www.nairaland.com/1023351/rivers-state-teachers-recruitment-2012 this is not propaganda you will find over 600,000 posts of benefitiaries____These were previously poor unemployed graduates. Amaechi hardly advertise his achievement and most of his achievements are even mostly under reported. and hey, don't expect immediate results as these is wholistic revamping of the state's educational sector that took several years to complete and just materialize barely two years ago when the best of infrastructure met the best of brain. just watch out for Rivers State in the next 5 to 8yrs

you also said:

"Amaechi did not bring development to Rivers State because he began killing all the institutions there. He succeeded in killing the judiciary. The healthcare sector was dying too, because he instituted free healthcare for everyone, and then refused to fund it. Months into the programme, the whole scheme collapsed. And you should not argue about it, because these are facts. Free healthcare is dead in Rivers State today, even long before the end of Amaechi's administration"

you are indeed a novice in Rivers state affair. he killed judiciary you said when the government in the center can not allow him appoint a chief judge? you must be rambunctiously discombobulated. go read the constitution of Nigeria dude

where did you get your info that the free medical care program was not working. why are you bent at discrediting good governance?

how can you say the monorail project is a waste when Architech Namadi Sambo the former VP during his campaign in PH said if Wike should be elected as governor he would complete the project. that Project is one of Amachi's legacy project that I love so much. I know you may not know the value of a monorail especially in modern Urban transit that's why you called it a wast. for your info that monorail was conceived to be completed in Phases to link up old PH township to as far as Eleme. monorail projects all over the world takes years to complete its not a cut and nail project that you can complete with a go. If you really understand the politics of how the private partners who are even the major financier of the project pulled out you will really appreciate the then State governor on the level of the project.
[/b]

DerideGull:


You are totally oblivious to the type of politics played in Nigeria. Amaechi's Rivers State will be refunded by the partial federal government but Obiano's Anambra State will not be refunded. The idiotic federal government of Nigeria has no reason to derelict on its duties.

TheGoodJoe:





As of a May 2013.

1. Akwa Ibom. 31LGCs. N69.4bn
2. Rivers. 23 LGCs. N67.6bn


21.ANAMBRA. 21LGCS. 18.74BN
25.ABIA. 17LGCS. 17.48BN
31.ENUGU. 17LGCS. 16.4BN
13.IMO. 27LGCS. 21.9BN


I believe with such Monthly allocations, we should see more from these states.

I do not think we should refer to these as paltry.