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Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by Truckpusher(m): 1:27pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
ketchupBoy:At a point common sense will not push you far - An educated mind is a goldmine. |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by Truckpusher(m): 1:30pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
ketchupBoy:They know that time is already catching up with them and they are doing everything possible to maintain the status quo - There is already a monster threatening their golden throne out there. Boko Haram. 1 Like |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by ketchupBoy: 1:30pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
Truckpusher: yeah, but a mind with common sense, can be a catalyst for Inception ( mental emancipation)... I support you though, thats why the first push should be proper federalism, where education's budget per state is the highest, then we move on to proper fiscal autonomy.. |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by Truckpusher(m): 1:37pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
PabloAfricanus:Whenever we tell them these things they will curse us and call us cowards. 1 Like |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by Truckpusher(m): 1:39pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
ketchupBoy:A mind with common sense is the first step towards mental emancipation but again mental emancipation will become a pipe dream without education. You do have great points and you're also very right as both works for the betterment of the individual. |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by Duru1(m): 1:47pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
vladimiros: I guess you are too educated to fail for the political shenanigans born out of idiocy. For example the bolded in red, there is nothing such as "true or false federalism". The term "true federalism" is used by clueless and dishonest losers. 1 Like |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by Ephemmm: 1:48pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
TonyeBarcanista: Tonye, na today you know ni? Only yeebos are fearless, hardworking, relevant and superior to other tribes in Nigeria. |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by ketchupBoy: 1:49pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
Duru1: The term true federalism means a democracy were each individual state is in total control of it affaiars, and the executive power only enfore federal laws and taxation. Its the stepping stone to Fiscal autonomy 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by Truckpusher(m): 1:56pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
Duru1:until you stop running with this mentality that can only be compared to that of a third world rodent , you're going nowhere bro. |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by MrAnalyst: 2:13pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
YoundDoctor: I waa avoiding insulting the fellow but you just spoke out my 'reserved comments' 2 Likes |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by pazienza(m): 2:15pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
We demanded for a separate region, we got it. We demanded for more states, we got six. We demanded for a minimum of 25% derivation, we got 13% We have Nigerdelta ministry and NDDC. We demanded offshore non-dichotomy, we got it. We demanded stoppage in the exploitation of the Nigerdelta oil communities by oil communities and the FG, we got amnesty and presidency. There are no "We" in South South, it has always been all groups for themselves, which was exactly why Ijaw cornered more than 80% of the amnesty windfall. "We" didn't demand for more states, instead the Igboids demanded for PH state to be free from Ijaw domination, the Ibibio/ Annangs / Oron demanded for a state to be free from Efik influence, the Aniomas demanded for a state to be free from the Edo dominance in Bendel state, like wise the Edoids( Isoko, Urhobo, Itsekiri and Bendel ijaws), they both wanted freedom from Edo over bearing influence, but instead they both were stuck in one state, Delta state, with Aniomas getting the capital city to the envy, anger and disgust of the Edoids. There is no "We" in the SS, it has all be all groups for themselves, which was why Edwin Clark used all at his disposal to ensure that Odili was dumped in place of GEJ, Odili wasn't Ijaw. 6 Likes |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by MrAnalyst: 2:19pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
Truckpusher: if you put it in that light,it's quite understandable but for some ss people to be 'proud' of it. That's self-condescending. |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by MrAnalyst: 2:20pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
ketchupBoy: Noted. |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by Truckpusher(m): 2:26pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
pazienza:Edwin Clark's action didn't go down well with vibrant Ijaw youths that understood that the task ahead isn't something that would be accomplished by Ijaws alone. Besides , the bulk of the people that engaged in the armed struggle were mostly ijaws while the Ogonis expelled shell from their land and the Ogbas choses to negotiate with the two oil majors for scholarships from primary to university education both national and international level , employment quota and infrastructural development and contracts as well as health facilities and youth sustainable programs which I'm a living beneficiary of almost all of them. So, tell me why would a neighbor after seeing people like us benefiting from these things want to ask his child or ward to bear arms to get his right back or go about it violently ? We are making progress, it is a slow one but we'll not go about it violently and if that's what makes us ignorant and lost so be it - Pick up arms and demand for your right , we are waiting for the outcome. 1 Like |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by MrAnalyst: 2:28pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
Bigprozzie: Igbos are lazy and fradulent. iPOB killed nine people? Oh my God,I can't belief my eyes. Somebody actually posted this! |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by ketchupBoy: 2:30pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
Truckpusher: I will buy you Beer if I knew you personally.. keep giving them South East Brain food, they can't see the value in " slow and patience" |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by Truckpusher(m): 2:31pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
MrAnalyst:Nobody is proud of it , in fact the people are not happy but you and I are aware that the only message that an oppressive state like the Nigerian state understood clearly is outright violence but at what cost? Will you burn down a house simply because you want to protest about a new house ? This is common sense. I simply tell my folks to educate their kids because there must be something out there for them. |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by fx45(m): 2:31pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
Truckpusher:The Igbo man doesn't seek to lord it over anybody and that's the truth. The Igbo man seeks to create and open up opportunities for enterprise. That is where he thrives most. That is what matters to him. Contrary to your widely held belief, the Igbo nation is not expansionist. The Igbo man rather seeks to expand his PERSONAL frontiers which in most cases is miscontrued as being domineering. It is simply a quest to achieve individual success. The reason why Nigeria is a failed state today is because the constituting units never sat down on a round table to discuss the terms of engagement. Today we have a structure designed to favour some sections and to emasculate the other sections which happens to be the honeybee. As it is, the status quo looks very unlikely to change now or anytime in the future. The only chances we have of ever turning the tables is by forging a united front and speaking with one voice. The new alliance presents a level playing ground built on the foundations of equality and fair play. It is a an opportunity and a call to rally the troops so we can confront this monster sitting tight on our commonwealth and making sure we never find our voices to speak out. 3 Likes |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by endoski: 2:37pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
vladimiros:the igbos don't want any of dat,all we need is BIAFRA. dnt tink we are desperate for oil. we are going to be evn beta of witawt the ss,so we wunt force or beg the ss to join us. nd i bet u,ss wil neva hv resource control as long as nigeria nd north re concerned,so my fellow ssterners shld beta wake up 1 Like |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by MrAnalyst: 2:38pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
Preyetonye: One SS-This here is the apogee of delusion. Please sir,the SS is definitely not 'one'. Be honest with yourself. Thank you. 3 Likes |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by Truckpusher(m): 2:44pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
ketchupBoy:Honestly, the autonomous nature of the Igbo man did not give him room for unnecessary patience and diplomacy . But one has to weigh his options carefully before taking a calculated risk which is what the Igbo man lacks in abundance but let's be fair here - There is a conspiracy to keep the igbo man down and this is bad and totally unacceptable . Sometimes I understand their plight and frustration because how can a people so vibrant be held down by some crazed zombies that has total disregard for nationalism and self development but wanting to drag the Niger delta into their problems is a no no situation even as we find ourselves in the same boat. We are children of circumstances and it would be unfortunate to for us to take any calculated risk that will backfire. At least not now. If I were Ojukwu I wouldn't go to war but I'll build a regional economic powerhouse because once you win the economic war then the military confrontation will become a walk in the park. Why is North Korea not attacking South Korea on a full scale invasion ? Because the big boys interests are in the South. Win the economic war and watch the North come to the negotiating table. 3 Likes |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by kingzizzy: 2:50pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
CreampieAngela: All 4 regions were still in existence even a year after Ironsi died. So unless Ironsi returned from the dead, you will have to explain how he abolished the regions. 3 Likes |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by kingzizzy: 2:54pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
Truckpusher: Ojukwu did not go to war, rather, war came to Ojukwu 4 Likes |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by Rose2014: 2:56pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
Ugomba:Get out of my head Ugomba Don't say I didn't warn you o I greet u sir |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by Truckpusher(m): 2:57pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
fx45:You've made a passionate and great points I swear but on the part of lording anyone I have this to say : it is a well documented occurrence that minority groups are usually wary of majority groups even in the animal Kigndom . What the Igbo nation would have done is to sustain and maintain the relationship forged between the SS and SE due to Jonathan's emergence but what we've seen so far is the same 1967 slogan where distinct ethnic group and being called and labelled as "Igbo" which I'm not against but I think it is important not repeat same ideological rethoric that have caused a lot of bitterness and even if they strongly feel so then they should allow it to be heard in a referendum and not making some elaborate comments online and offline ,these comments will only further make the people to feel that the old system of domination has reared its ugly head again. Every larger ethnic group always have an agenda even the ijaws feel that because they are the champions of the struggle and then should get a lion share but it is obvious to them that they stand no chance without the support of the other ethnic groups around them. So, you guys need to go back to the drawing board as we all are well aware that without having the Niger Delta behind you , you'll always remain at the mercy of the fulani man and his co conspirators and of course without the support of the Igbos the Niger delta ethnic groups will remain where they are right now too. No one should be playing the big brother here but respect for ethnic boundaries, equality and respect for other people's ways of addressing themselves will go a long way in forging that much desired unity we all needed like water. We are in the same boat. 2 Likes |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by Truckpusher(m): 2:59pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
kingzizzy:What do you do when a bully is luring you to say something that will give him the needed excuses to beat the hell out of you ? You play dumb , weak and afraid until the time is right. |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by fx45(m): 2:59pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
vladimiros:You're dreaming... Like Afam4eva said, keep hoping... The reality is that the Confab report has been thrashed and thrashed it will remain. 1 Like |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by Nobody: 3:02pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
Truckpusher:Why did you mention my moniker unecessarily? Are you insane? |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by Truckpusher(m): 3:05pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
Confrontation:Lol, your moniker is an English word bro. And I'm not insane . |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by pweetychyka(f): 3:06pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
Truckpusher: And u keep killing it! I jez dey leave ma job dey read dis ma friend's post! Cos it is always educating.... 1 Like |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by Nobody: 3:08pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
Truckpusher:Alright. But take head, lest you invoke the anger of the sleeping gods. |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by ketchupBoy: 3:09pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
Truckpusher: This is what i have been telling my Igbo Cousins, focus on economy, Money will buy the Politics and Influence. You have the Human resource, the entrepreneurial spirit, forget Biafra as a Seceded Nation but see it as an autonomous economic powerhouse, him to called me a " coward" 1 Like 1 Share |
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