Ifa is really quite mysterious and also valuable because it's not just a belief system but also an educative platform while also entailing the history of the Yoruba race.

The only problem is those unenlightened folks who misinterpret the ebo. The ebo are rather educative symbolism thus shouldn't be taken literally. Personally, I wouldn't have had problem with the ignorant people misinterpreting the ebo if not for those useless people killing human for sacrifice while forgetting the fact Ifa hates Human sacrifices to begin with. In addition, Ifa always says all the Orishas live within us. So why would any useless fool sacrifice a Human? Ori is an Orisha for example, so why would any fool offer Ori as a sacrifice? Yet such useless fool think Ifa accept such harmful evil stupidity? Although I know Ifa people don't make human sacrifice. it's actually some useless people that do such useless acts.

Basically, Ifa is all about civilization, intelligent creative inventions, medicinal plants, agriculture..

Olu317:
Well, if you do not there a celebration to acknowledged sin and forgiveness , in ifaodu , then you will need to consult further from a priest / Olifa/Onifa/Babalawo on it.

Ela after having so much power and he was healing the sick, raising the dead, opening eyes of the blinds etc, he began to think, he can do it once he lives the abode of Orunmila.

Eventually,he left Orunmila's abode. After doing this, everything he touches doesn't become fruitful anymore each time people come to seek spiritual guidance from ifa through him.

He later device the right plan after he went to see other Babalawos and he was told of his wrong doing after divination were made.........

Thereafter he ackowledged his error and everything was restored back to him after sacrifices were done.........

There are ifa stanzas that talked about sin and forgiveness and what to be used as offering .

No human blood is used in ifa.Although fake priests and fetish people claiming isese do use human beings for their own selfish reason. Ifa reject human sacrifices.

Finally , Ela is not omoloju eledumare. Gbogbo wa ni omo ope segi segi gbogbo wa ni ifa bi
Orunmila ni Baba wa( if you are an initiate you will understand me)

Ire o

I'm sure you're talking about where Ifa talks about Orun and Ela?

As I said, Ifa always speak in parables. Don't forget Orunmila in full expatiation is "Orun mo Ela". Orunmila is simply Ela. Orun and Ela are combined together to mean "Ela always works with divine heaven's knowledge & power".. Orunmila is the same as Ela, just as Ifa often states (albeit the first Ifa priest was also named Orunmila before Ela, born of a virgin came to take over the Orunmila role which has always been his role).

Ela is Omoloju Eledumare as stated by Ifa and he's also referred as Orunmila which represent wisdom and knowledge.

Dsimmer:


I'm sure you're talking about where Ifa was talking about Orun and Ela?

As I said, Ifa always speak in parables. Don't forget Orunmila in full expatiation is "Orun mo Ela". Orunmila is simply Ela. Orun and Ela are combined together to mean "Ela always works with heaven's divine knowledge & power".. Orunmila is the same as Ela, just as Ifa often states (albeit the first Ifa priest was also named Orunmila before Ela, born of a virgin came to take over the Orunmila role which has always been his role).

Ela is Omoloju Eledumare as stated by Ifa and he's also referred as Orunmila which represent wisdom and knowledge.

Knowing ifaodu spirituality is beyond just reading some concocted books . The real deal is to actively knowledgeable about it through priests.

The reality is that, what you're posting is repetion of same view overand over again rwhich doesn't exist in ifa.

Therefore, kudos irrespective of how you have little knowledge Ela but can still be broaden to learn more about ifa as encyclopaedia of Yoruba/ Humanity.

Ire o

Olu317:
Knowing ifaodu spirituality is beyond just reading some concocted books . The real deal is to actively knowledgeable about it through priests.

The reality is that, what you're posting is repetion of same view overand over again rwhich doesn't exist in ifa.

Therefore, kudos irrespective of how you have little knowledge Ela but can still be broaden to learn more about ifa as encyclopaedia of Yoruba/ Humanity.

Ire o

I simply stated what Ifa stated. Ifa says Ela is Orunmila. Orunmila full expatiation is "Orun mo Ela".. So what's the confusion there?

While Ifa always speak in parables, it's not that difficult to read the lines. Orun and Ela are combined together to mean "Ela always works with divine heaven's knowledge/power". That's exactly what Ifa narrated when Ifa was talking about Orun and Ela. Orun means divine heaven📍 That was why I said you should always take note of the name which sometimes gives out the meaning of the parables.

Ela who's Omoloju Eledumare is also Orunmila as stated by Ifa. Albeit the first Ifa priest was named Orunmila before Ela born of a virgin woman came to take over the Orunmila role which has always been his role.

Dsimmer:


I'm saying what Ifa state. Ifa says Ela is Orunmila. Orunmila full expatiation is "Orun mo Ela".. So what's the confusion there?

While Ifa always speak in parables, it's not
difficult to read the lines. Orun and Ela are combined together to mean "Ela always works with heaven divine power and knowledge". That's exactly what Ifa narrated when Ifa was talking about Orun and Ela. Orun means heaven. That was why I said you should always take note of the name which sometimes gives out the meaning of the parables.

Ela who's Omoloju Eledumare is also Orunmila as stated by Ifa. Albeit the first Ifa priest was named Orunmila before Ela born of a virgin woman came to take over the Orunmila role which has always been his role.

Stop irritating me with false information.

Quote the Ifa stanza and let us learn from you.

Olu317:
Stop irritating me with false information.

Quote the Ifa stanza and let us learn from you.

Which one are you talking about exactly? Lol.

Is it the stanza of Orun and Ela which you already narrated of how Ela left Orun house although you can't understand the parable?🤔

Or you don't know Ela, Omoloju Eledumare?

Dsimmer:
Let me add that there's another person whom Ifa calls begotten child of Eledumare. It's "Jewesun, the lamb" as Ifa calls it. Since Ifa says Eledumare has only one begotten child, then it means Ela is the same as Jewesun. Even as Ela is same as Orunmila. However, is Ifa pointing out something to the Yoruba? This begs the question of what's Yoruba business with the Jews?

In addition, can we say "Jewesun = Ela" which is implied by Ifa is the basis why the 12 disciples say "Jesus is Lord" ?😅

This is me thinking loud.

As a matter of fact, Ela/Oluwa and Jewesun/Jesu were no strange to the Yorubas before the European Missionary came with Lord and Jesus

Meanwhile, There's also Esu which represents Justice which is actually the justice personality of Eledumare operating. That is, God is merciful but also full of wrath and justice, especially against terrorists/criminals. That's why Orunmila/Ela & Eshu are friends and duality of each other. That is, Ela (Orunmila) is full of mercy and grace whereas Eshu is full of justice/wrath against criminals/terrorists.

Even the Christians believe Jesus is coming back to fulfill justice. Well, the truth is people don't have to wait for Jesus return before ensuring justice against useless terrorists/criminals disturbing their territory. That's why the Isrealites has David, Samson, Deborah etc. That's why the Yoruba has Sango, Ogun, Oya etc.

Btw, Jewesun in full expatiation is "Je ki ewe sun" which translates into "Let the leaf sleep" which should mean serenity. As I once stated, Yoruba do use J for Y at times. For example, "It shall be" in Yoruba is "Yoowa" which is "Ye ki o wa" in full expatiation however it's also pronounced as "Je ki o wa" at times 😅.. The Jewish do same. Yehuda is pronounced as Judah for example.

Question is what does ifa means by inferring Jewesun = Ela ?

Ifa is mysterious, just as the Yoruba. We could either infer that the Yoruba were probably part of the Jews although they're yet to do DNA test with the Jews OR the Yoruba are just ancient people doing their thing. Na the ancient ghost DNA sef I wan focus on sef

Anyways, Ifa is quite valuable to the Yoruba, just as I previously stated because it's not just a belief system but also an educative platform while also entailing the history of the Yoruba race 📍

Basically, Ifa is all about intelligence, creativity, invention and medicinal plants.

I think Ela was from Oluwa which is also another name for Eledumare/Olodumare (Olorun), considering Ela means enlightenment and clarity/righteousness. Oluwa means "Lord OR Lord of Righteousness OR Lord of creation". Ela also represent righteousness, enlightenment/intelligence and creativity. In addition, Ela is also referred as Oluwo Orun.

Anyways, "Oluwa" means "Lord of righteousness or creation". While the Isrealites say Eloah/Elowah

Funny thing is irrespective of the similarities between the Yoruba names and the Isrealites names for God, Yoruba actually know the meaning of all these names in Yoruba language

The only one which is a bit mysterious to decipher is the Yoruba's Eriwoya which is similar to the Isrealites' Yahweh. I think I'm able to decipher the meaning of Eriwoyah though. Eriwo means "the elephant has fallen" which Yoruba always use to depict a good man or righteous man who passed on, which is similar to how the psalm scripture (Psalm 45: talks about Jesus in the "Ivory" palace and we all know that Jesus was a righteous man.

Ya should mean alive. Ìyè means alive for example. So, Eriwoya should mean "the righteous one who has power over death and Life"..

That was why I said Yoruba are mysterious in my previous post above 😂

There's something I even found. Lol. The Jewish emphasis was also pointed out

Anyways, as I already stated, the Yoruba could probably be Jews although they're yet to do DNA test with the Jews OR the Yoruba are just ancient people doing their thing, considering their ancient DNA.

Dsimmer:


Ela olurogbo is the same as Ela omo oyigi. The one who is different is the Ela olurogbo of Moremi who was a married woman. In fact, it was stated that Moremi named her child, Ela olurogbo because of the popularity and divine nature of the previous Ela olurogbo.

Whenever Ifa mention Ela, it simply means Ela! Whether Ela Olurogbo, Ela Omo Oyigi or Ela Oluwo Orun. All are same.

Btw, let me add that while Oyigi was a virgin woman who gave birth to Ela, her Oyigi name itself is also God's accolades📌

Ela is a spirit of light which is all about enlightenment/intelligence, creativity and Clarity.

Speaking of Moremi, while the human Moremi was Oranmiyan's brave wife. However the cosmos Moremi means another thing. Note that the primordial Orisha are different from the Yoruba human Orisha who are only depicting the primordial Orisha personalities✨ Ifa picked these Yoruba humans in a bid to ensure that Yoruba will continue to have all these in their memory whenever they celebrate their ancestors such as Obatala, Oduduwa, Sango, Ogun, Oya, Osun, Olokun, Moremi etc ✨

The Primordial Moremi should mean God who gave up his son, Ela for sacrifice to save humans. Of course, the Ela child didn't die but ascended up into heaven. Basically, Ifa is still talking about Ela. So anywhere one sees Ela in Ifa, it basically means Ela, Omoloju Eledumare💥! Ela Omoloju Eledumare, Ela Omo Oyigi, Ela Olurogbo, Ela Oluwo Orun are all the same 📌

And according to Ifa, Ela is also Jewesun because Ifa says Olodumare has only one begotten child hence, if Ela and Jewesun are both regarded as the only begotten child of Eledumare who has only one begotten child, then it means both Ela and Jewesun means the same thing (a=x).

Now the question is what's Yoruba business with the Jews to begin with and that's a mystery? 🤔

Just as I stated below

Dsimmer:
Whichever, whether Jews or the ancient people doing their thing, Yoruba are Yoruba (Omoluabi ). Because even if the Yoruba were Jews who parted early from the Jews or not, the Yoruba have carved their own Ife cradle ancestry with their several ancestral cultural heroes with their beautiful cultural exploits such as Obatala, Sango, Oya, Orunmila (Ela), Ogun, Olokun, Osun, Oduduwa (Olofin Adimula), Osoosi, Oranmiyan etc.. 🥰

Speaking of Oduduwa (Olofin Adimula) btw, Oduduwa even made me understand some Jewish history in the scripture.

Oduduwa is Olofin Adimula which means "the one given the law", just like Adam was given the law. Oduduwa came from Oke Ora. Now look at the word Oke "Ora". The "Ora" word looks similar to the mountains of "Ararat" and also "Torah". Torah represents "the Law" in Jewish (Hebrew) language. Oduduwa who is also known as Olofin Adimula which means "the one given the law" came from Oke "Ora" which looks similar to "Torah" which represent the law

Since Noah's ark was raised above the mountains of "Ararat", then, we can say it was "grace/mercy" which saved Noah's ark, not the law because it was raised above the mountains of "Ararat" (Ararat=Torah=Law) thus meaning, it was raised above the "law" 🧐 Let's not forget that Oduduwa who's Olofin Adimula which means the one given the law came from Oke "Ora" 🧐

Jesus (Ela) who also represent the law (the first man) died but was also raised from death thus ensuring grace/salvation persists at the face of the Law.

Ela came to the Yoruba while Jewesun came to the Jews. Both were born of a virgin woman. Jewesun abolished sacrifices just like Ela Iwori (Omoloju Olodumare) also abolished sacrifices as stated in Ela Iwori. Both also resurrected and ascended after their death.

So yes, I admit there are a lot of similarities between the Yoruba and the Jews/Yehudah but they could also be ancient people doing their things 😂

Anyways, what Olodumare expects from the Yoruba and humans apart from integrity is to also use their intelligent creativity to make their society better and innovative, just like his visible manifestation (Omoloju Olodumare) had done by creating the universe which is an intelligent creative world📌 Some Yoruba ancestors understood that and that was why they invented a lot such as, drums, beads, creative fabrics, metallurgy, stone sculptures, Ifa technology, several creative arts etc in addition with agriculture and animal husbandry which are also part of it. So what Olodumare expect is Integrity (righteousness) and intelligent creativity to improve their society, just like his visible manifestation had done.

Dsimmer:
I think Oluwa which is also another name for Eledumare/Olodumare (Olorun) may have been got from Ela, considering Ela means enlightenment and clarity/righteousness. Oluwa means "Lord OR Lord of creation OR Lord of Righteousness". Ela also represent righteousness, enlightenment/intelligence and creativity. In addition, Ela is also referred as Oluwo Orun.

Anyways, "Oluwa" means "Lord of righteousness or creation". While the Isrealites say Eloah/Elowah

Funny thing is irrespective of the similarities between the Yoruba names and the Isrealites names for God, Yoruba actually know the meaning of all these names in Yoruba language

The only one which is a bit mysterious to decipher is the Yoruba's Eriwoya which is similar to the Isrealites' Yahweh. I think I'm able to decipher the meaning of Eriwoyah though. Eriwo means "the elephant has fallen" which Yoruba always use to depict a good man or righteous man who passed on, which is similar to how the psalm scripture (Psalm 45: talks about Jesus in the "Ivory" palace and we all know that Jesus was a righteous man.

Ya should mean alive. Ìyè means alive for example. So, Eriwoya should mean "the righteous one who has power over death and Life"..

That was why I said Yoruba are mysterious in my previous post above 😂

Someone had mentioned before, and I think it might have been Olu317 or absolutesuccess, that eriwo is ancient Yoruba word meaning river. The word is lost through times. From eriwo is the derivative mariwo, a tree found on river banks.

In use, eriwoya (pronounced eriwoooyahhh) is a command, preceeding sacred incantation. In other words, a code request for access into sacredness. Going with your theory on the relativity between Yoruba and Children of Israel, could ERIWOYAH, be the sacred code Moses used to part the river? It's a theory, Id like to hear your weight on it.

BabaRamota1980:


Someone had mentioned before, and I think it might have been Olu317 or absolutesuccess, that eriwo is ancient Yoruba word meaning river. The word is lost through times. From eriwo is the derivative mariwo, a tree found on river banks.

In use, eriwoya (pronounced eriwoooyahhh) is a command, preceeding sacred incantation. In other words, a code request for access into sacredness. Going with your theory on the relativity between Yoruba and Children of Israel, could ERIWOYAH, be the sacred code Moses used to part the river? It's a theory, Id like to hear your weight on it.

Yoruba have several words with each having several meanings and Ifa tends to explore it most times when speaking to the Yoruba people

For example, "Ye" means "alive, intelligence, movement etc".

Likewise "Ela" means "light, purity, clarity, word, intelligence etc"..

There's is also Oluwa which means "Lord of righteousness, Lord of creation.."📌

You know Ifa loves speaking in parables while expecting Yoruba to use their Intelligence to decode it 😅

I'm sure "Ori" must have also meant more and not meaning 'head' alone to the ancient Yoruba ancestors. That's why I don't want any Yoruba words to be lost.

"Ori" which means "head" in Yoruba language, means "Light" in Hebrew (Jewish) for example. It also means head (Rosh) in Hebrew. As a matter of fact, Ori which means "head" in Yoruba represents "intelligence and consciousness/integrity" in the philosophical sense of it thus making it an Orisha. Intelligence is light and clarity. In fact, see Yoruba word for "sunlight" which is "Orun". Look at "Orun" similarity to the word "Ori".. That was why I said Ori must have meant more for the ancient Yoruba ancestors. Orun also means Heaven or greatest height. While "Aaron" also means greatest height in Hebrew. So in Israelites' language, (Ori, Rosh, Aaron) means light, head, greatest height while in Yoruba language, (Ori, Orun, Orin) means head, sunlight, greatest height/heaven, Song, Word.. Now, see the mystery 🤔

Speaking of Eriwo, Eriwo should also mean several things, which include River just like Erinle who's also an Orisha. Eriwo also means "Palm fronds" which is Mariwo. Funnily, Jesus also used "palm frond" during his triumphant entry into Jerusalem.

Eriwo also means a righteous man who passed on, just like I previously stated. Funnily, It was also stated that Jesus was found in the "Ivory palace" in Psalm 45: 8 and we know Jesus was a righteous man 📌

As for Moses parting the sea, it could be Eriwoya because as I said "Ye/Ya" in Yoruba means "alive, intelligence, movement, wind etc". "Eriwoya" is also similar to "Alleluyah" which was used in destroying the Jericho wall. "Eriwoya" is also similar to "Yahweh".

Yoruba's mystery with the Israelites is really surprising and even frightening at times because how come what was happening among the Israelites back then were also happening in Yoruba then? Were the Yoruba really Israelites?

Of course the Yoruba could have parted from the Isrealites while the Isrealites were still in Egypt. That's plausible. So either that or they're ancient people doing their things.

Anyways, whether Yoruba were Israelites or not, they've gone to carve their cradle with their several ancestral cultural heroes with beautiful cultural exploits such as Obatala, Sango, Oya, Orunmila (Ela), Ogun, Olokun, Oduduwa, Osun, Osoosi, Oranmiyan etc..

Also, what Olodumare expect from human is righteousness (integrity) and intelligent creativity to improve their society, just like his visible manifestation had done by creating the universe which is an intelligent creative world.

BabaRamota1980:


Someone had mentioned before, and I think it might have been Olu317 or absolutesuccess, that eriwo is ancient Yoruba word meaning river. The word is lost through times. From eriwo is the derivative mariwo, a tree found on river banks.

In use, eriwoya (pronounced eriwoooyahhh) is a command, preceeding sacred incantation. In other words, a code request for access into sacredness. Going with your theory on the relativity between Yoruba and Children of Israel, could ERIWOYAH, be the sacred code Moses used to part the river? It's a theory, Id like to hear your weight on it.

very well, way back, way back, way back.

Ihale - chutzpah
Hale -- frigthen, rake upon
Ha le ni l'ori--make noise on someone.

Ha, hale: frighten, rake, make noise on someone.

When the Israelites were laying siege on Jericho, the security of the town stood firm. From within the walls, the hullabaloo of the attacking bandits so to speak is 'mere chutzpah', judging from the fact that those who are going around the wall do not have war-ram to crush the wall of defense, so its all "ihale".

The language of the Israelites should have words from its neighbours in it, such that if words were to take their etymology from tribal interactions, bit and piece of the shared history would be imprinted on the morphology of such words generations much later. Hale till date in Yoruba is the preceding acts and noise before a fight.

Hale is the verb form of the noun Ihale : "ejo o, ema ha le mi l'ori nt'ori Olo'un!" (please for God sake, don't rake on my head!) What became rake in Yoruba psyche might have come from "noise". Hale (chutzpah) is akin to hale (noise on), the prefix in Hale-luyah. So from the event of the fall of Jericho's wall, lets assume the noise (ariwo) of Yah was at the point the wall came crashing down.

Now, that can easily become a cultural mantra, such as Haleluyah has been: and we can have a re-cursory to it in cultural linguistics of people who might have had anything to do with the said experience. Hale, (make noise on it), lu (create porosity) yah (tear up). This means the Yoruba language have faint recollections perceivable in the language of the Levant from theological resources that has come to us.

Dsimmer:
Anyways, whether Yoruba were Israelites or not, they've gone to carve their cradle with their several ancestral cultural heroes with beautiful cultural exploits such as Obatala, Sango, Oya, Orunmila (Ela), Ogun, Olokun, Oduduwa, Osun, Osoosi, Oranmiyan etc..

Also, what Olodumare expect from human is righteousness (integrity) and intelligent creativity to improve their society, just like his visible manifestation had done by creating the universe which is an intelligent creative world.

Very true there. Iwa l'oba awure, character is a king, prayer is its subject.

absoluteSuccess:


Very true there. Iwa l'oba awure, character is a king, prayer is its subject.

Yes, righteousness is a priority. I once stated that the 3 things which I noticed Ifa often enlighten people on are Ela (Orunmila), Iwa and Ori.

As a matter of fact, Iwa and Ori are the core attributes/characters of Ela (Omoloju Olodumare) who represents intelligence and righteousness.

Ela is the visible manifestation of Olodumare, Ori represent intelligence while Iwa represent righteousness which are both the core characters of Ela 📌

Funnily, these three words are also present in Israelites' language with similar meanings. Lol.

As a matter of fact, Ifa always mention both the primordial Orisha and the Yoruba human Orishas (Yoruba ancestors) while laying emphasis on the fact that Human does become an Orisha. Hence, anyone who's righteous (Iwa) and intelligent (Ori) to enlighten or invent things end up becoming an Orisha. So, human should always desire to be righteous and acquire wisdom to enlighten others or create things to develop their society, thus making it easier for their society. Such human is an Orisha📌

On a side note, I love Yoruba word play. Ifa who speaks parables also loves exploring these word plays while speaking in parables to the Yoruba for the Yoruba to decode it with their intelligence.

Dsimmer:


Yes, righteousness is a priority. I once stated that the 3 things which I noticed Ifa often enlighten people on are Ela (Orunmila), Iwa and Ori.

As a matter of fact, Iwa and Ori are the core attributes/characters of Ela (Omoloju Olodumare) who represents intelligence and righteousness. Ori represent intelligence while Iwa represent righteousness which are both the core characters of Ela.

Funnily, these three words are present in Israelites' language. Lol.

As a matter of fact, Ifa always mention both the primordial Orisha and the Yoruba human Orishas (Yoruba ancestors) while laying emphasis on the fact that Human does become an Orisha. Hence, anyone who's righteous (Iwa) and intelligent (Ori) to enlighten or invent things end up becoming an Orisha. So, human should always desire to be righteous and acquire wisdom to enlighten others or create things to develop their society, thus making it easier for their fellow humans. Such human is an Orisha📌

On a side note, I love Yoruba word play. Ifa who speaks parables also loves exploring these word plays while speaking in parables to the Yoruba for the Yoruba to decode it with their intelligence.

You made absolute sense in the above piece. Ori lonise, eda l'ayanmo. Ori lo ni ise, Ori ni Oluse, Eda ni a yan ise ori mo. Bi eniyan ko lati fun ori ni ise, ti oluwa re n kanju, b'oya nitori ola (wealth) tabi ipo (position) tabi lati je gbajumo lawujo (fame), onitoun a siwahu, oluwa re a si padanu ise ti Ori yan-an mo gan-an. Ni ni suuru fun Ori, iwa (righteousness) ni, aini suuru f'ori, iwa ni eleyi bakanna ninu ede Yoruba. Olukuluku wa lani iwa wa lati yan, lati mojuto, lati baje tabi lati tunse. Nitemi, mo gba pe ko si eni pipe tase Olodumare.

owe to pe "Iwa l'oba awure" fi yewa pe, bi eniyan tile ni oogun bi Aroni, sugbon ti ko ni iwa, a deyin le awon eniyan jinna si ara re dandan: o dabi e-sun owe to wipe, "oju nii juwe igbo, ese nii f'ona oja hanyan, amo orisa ogiyan onii f'ona ola han ara Ikire lailai..." mi o mo nkan ti won gba l'owo ara won. Ota naa po tobe to rekoja sinu owe Yoruba.

Ifa je onisuuru eniyan nigba tire, asiwaju rere sini pelu. Owe to toka iwa re fidi eleyi mule: "baaba ni 'o dowo ifa', ifa aani, 'o dowo awon aworo - sasa'" Eleyi tunmo si wipe, ifa kii fi ara re pe oga l'ori awon elegbe re ti won jo nde igbo kiri fun ibudo, rara. kanran yen, o maa nri won gege bi aworo-sasa: itunmo aworo-sasa? A-wo-ero-ti-orisa-sa. Awon alabojuto ero Ipo ati ero Ofa ti Ifa maa nsaba toka si.

Awon wo ni ero Ipo?

Hippo, awon ero ti won je alatileyin fun iran Yoruba lati etikun awon ara Moro, (Moor, Mauri, Moore-mope) titi ti won fi gunle si Ofa tabi Ile Ife ni opin irin ajo won. Awon awo naa lo deyin di babalawo, gboloun naa ni orisun awon oro to saba maa ntunmo si. Awon gbolohun onitunmo Yoruba saba maa nsapejuwe iriri won ninu ede Yoruba, nitorinaa, won wulo fun itesiwaju imo ede ati itan ile Yoruba lopolopo.

Ki Oluwa tunbo maa fun-un yin ni ogbon imo ati oye fun itesiwaju iwadi ti e nse pelu akoko yin, ami.

absoluteSuccess:


You made absolute sense in the above piece. Ori lonise, eda l'ayanmo. Ori lo ni ise, Ori ni Oluse, Eda ni a yan ise ori mo. Bi eniyan ko lati fun ori ni ise, ti oluwa re n kanju, b'oya nitori ola (wealth) tabi ipo (position) tabi lati je gbajumo lawujo (fame), eniyan a siwahu, oluwa re a si padanu ise ti ori yan-an mo. Ni ni suuru fun Ori, o je iwa (righteousness), aini suuru f'ori, iwa ni eleyi bakanna ninu ede Yoruba. Olukuluku wa lani iwa wa lati yan, lati mojuto, tabi lati tunse. Mo gba pe ko si eni to pe, tase Olodumare.

Iwa l'oba awure fi yewa pe, bi eniyan tile ni oogun bi Aroni, sugbon ti ko ni iwa, a le awon eniyan jinna si ara re dandan: o dabi esun owe to wipe, "oju nii juwe igbo, ona a maa f'oja hanyan, amo orisa ogidan onii fona ola han ara Ikire lailai..." mi o mo nkan ti won gba l'owo ara won. Ota naa po tobe to rekoja sinu owe Yoruba.

Ifa je onisuuru eniyan nigba tire, asiwaju rere sini pelu. Owe to toka iwa re fidi eleyi mule: "baaba ni 'o dowo ifa', ifa aani, 'o dowo awon aworo - sasa'" Eleyi tunmo si wipe, ifa kii fi ara re pe oga l'ori awon elegbe re ti won jo nde igbo kiri fun ibudo, rara. kanran yen, o maa nri won gege bi aworo-sasa: itunmo aworo-sasa? A-wo-ero-ti-orisa-sa. Awon alabojuto ero Ipo ati ero Ofa ti Ifa maa nsaba toka si.

Awon wo ni ero Ipo?

Hippo, awon ero ti won je alatileyin fun iran Yoruba lati etikun awon ara Moro, (Moor, Mauri, Moore-mope) titi ti won fi gunle si Ofa tabi Ile Ife ni opin irin ajo won. Awon awo naa lo deyin di babalawo, gboloun naa ni orisun awon oro to saba maa ntunmo si. Awon gbolohun onitunmo Yoruba saba maa nsapejuwe iriri won ninu ede Yoruba, nitorinaa, won wulo fun itesiwaju imo ede ati itan ile Yoruba lopolopo.

Ki Oluwa tunbo maa fun-un yin ni ogbon imo ati oye fun itesiwaju iwadi ti e nse pelu akoko yin, ami.

Yeah, righteousness and intelligence/knowledge are quite important.

Funnily, I would even say Yoruba understand most of these similar words more than the Israelites.

For example, the Israelites only know that Yahweh and Eloah/Elowah are names of the supreme creator. Ask them the meaning, they don't know much. Of course, they know Yahweh means alive which is similar to Yoruba's "Ìyè"/Aye word btw.

My point is when Yoruba begin to explore these words in Yoruba language, the Yoruba people even understand the meaning better.

For example Oluwa means "lord of righteousness" and it also means "lord of creation".

The word "Yahweh" means a lot for the Yoruba. Ìyè means alive for example. "Ye" also means movement. " Ye" also means knowledge/wisdom.. Ye also means Nobility.

Another is "Ya" which also mean movement and can also mean fierce wind which causes destruction e.g Oya.

"Yo" means Joy for example, Eyo or Ayo.

There's also "Yewa" which means "befitting".

"Yewa" also means knowledge, for example, Fi "Yewa" pe...

Yewa also mean Elder/Parent/Maturity.

"Yoowa" means "it shall be"

So take a look at all these Yoruba words with the meanings in Yoruba language. As a matter of fact, all the aforementioned are the attributes of the supreme creator, "Oluwa Olorun Olodumare", even as all these meanings depict Olodumare (Ìyè), the supreme creator 📌

Basically, Yoruba even understand all these in their language better. It's a good thing that Yoruba preserved their mysterious language. I even felt some of it had been lost sef. Just like how the Israelites also stated that they lost some of their ancient words. Anyways, Yoruba need to preserve their mysterious language.

Speaking of Ipo, I think Ipo means position. whatever Ifa is saying to the Yoruba, it always has meaning in the Yoruba language to begin with because Ifa speaks Yoruba, except if Yoruba people had lost/forgotten that word. So, Ipo has meaning in Yoruba language which means "position". As a matter of fact, when someone is elected/put into a post/position for example, it's a great responsibility because he has to be responsible (integrity) and also make good policy to improve, invent and also civilize the society. Several Yoruba's ancestors understood that because they were responsible while also inventing a lot of intelligent creative things to improve their society. As for "Fa", while fa means "to hunt, it also means "to draw out something" which is equivalent to acquiring knowledge. From all these, we can say while Ela who's the visible manifestation of Olodumare is more knowledgeable/intelligent and full of righteousness than anyone else, however, he tends to adore the people who try to be righteous and acquire wisdom to either enlighten or invent things to improve their society.

On Yoruba and Israelites, of course I'm sometimes astonished at some of the similarities, including the similar words with similar meanings. But whichever ways because whether the Yoruba were Isrealites or not, Yoruba have gone to carve out their Ife cradle with their several ancestors with beautiful cultural creative exploits such as Obatala, Sango, Oya, Orunmila, Ogun, Osun, Oduduwa, Osoosi, Oranmiyan etc.

There also the word "da" in Yoruba.

Da means good or lovely/beautiful (Da or Dada) in Yoruba. Funnily, Hebrew 's 'Da' also means lovely/beautiful.

Da also means cutlass (Ada) which
means agriculture/farming.

Da also means Sword (Ida) which means justice.

Da also means dreadlock hair (Dada) - natural dreadlock like that of Samson. Funnily, Sango and his brother, Ajaka had natural dreadlock hair 😂

Da also means "set apart" which could mean purity.

So "da" has several meanings in Yoruba📌

As stated, I'm quite aware of the funny similarities between the Yoruba and the Israelites, considering the several similar words with the similar meaning; the similar names for the supreme creator and also, some traditions such as, the virgin tradition of the Yoruba for example. As a matter of fact, the word 'Baale' in Yoruba not only means "owner" and "husband" in Yoruba but also means "the man who found the virginity" which was essential in Yoruba marriage in the old days. As a matter of fact in the old days, there was no marriage in Yoruba culture except she was a virgin (especially the first wife of the man who was also supposed to be a virgin). That was in the old days though. It's similar to the Jewish culture. Funnily, the Jewish word for husband is also Baal. Lol.

There's also the twin tradition of making the second twin the elder (Akobi) of the twins like the case of Jacob.

Yoruba could probably be linked to the Israelites' in a way however I doubt if Yoruba went to Israel to begin with 😂 because if they did, they should have remembered Moses, the red sea and also have the 10 commandments with them, even though the Yoruba ended up doing most of the 10 commandments such as, having respect for parents and elders. That said, It's probably plausible that Yoruba could have parted from the Israelites while the Israelites' were still in Egypt. Funnily on the old map, there's Judah written in the exact South west area where the Yoruba are but then again, Yoruba can't remember if they're Israelites or not 😂

Anyways, Yoruba are simply Yoruba.

BabaRamota1980:


Someone had mentioned before, and I think it might have been Olu317 or absolutesuccess, that eriwo is ancient Yoruba word meaning river. The word is lost through times. From eriwo is the derivative mariwo, a tree found on river banks.

In use, eriwoya (pronounced eriwoooyahhh) is a command, preceeding sacred incantation. In other words, a code request for access into sacredness. Going with your theory on the relativity between Yoruba and Children of Israel, could ERIWOYAH, be the sacred code Moses used to part the river? It's a theory, Id like to hear your weight on it.

Eri is river.
Mariwo is palm frond.
Ope is sacred palm nut.
Eriwo is a sacred word associated with initiates for a purpose.
Orunmila has "Eri"... as a prefix to one of his name cum alias.

Unfortunately, I was not the one who asserted Eriwo as river. Albeit Osinmeri/Oshinmeri is a river in ileife.....

Cheers