Do any atheists argue that Atheism IS Science?

Please, discuss.

what then have atheists been hiding under?

noetic2:

what then have atheists been hiding under?

This is idiotic. Make an argument, not just an assertion, stupid.

@Huxley

spell out your own understanding/definition of an atheist and i will treat your post.

huxley2:

This is idiotic. Make an argument, not just an assertion, stupid.

very typical. whenever u have nothing upstairs to offer, u resort to insults.

on what basis have u always asserted ur ridiculous atheistic postulations, silly?

skyone:

@Huxley

spell out your own understanding/definition of an atheist and i will treat your post.

You can define atheism any number of ways

1) Simple or weak atheism

Is the view that there are on good evidence to belief in a god or gods

OR

The lack of a belief in god or gods (sometimes referred to as "no belief in god"

2) Strong atheism

A categorical assertion that there are no god(s) (sometimes referred to as "no-god belief)


Now, is any of this science? Over to you!

huxley2:

You can define atheism any number of ways

1) Simple or weak atheism

Is the view that there are on good evidence to belief in a god or gods

OR

The lack of a belief in god or gods (sometimes referred to as "no belief in god"

2) Strong atheism

A categorical assertion that there are no god(s) (sometimes referred to as "no-god belief)


Now, is any of this science? Over to you!

This is ridiculous.

Why not state ur own opinion first. which of the atheistic groups do u subscribe to? and whats the basis for it?

is it in any way related to science?

noetic2:

This is ridiculous.

Why not state ur own opinion first. which of the atheistic groups do u subscribe to? and whats the basis for it?

is it in any way related to science?

Did you see anywhere in the question that my own opinion was required?

huxley2:

Did you see anywhere in the question that my own opinion was required?

Since u are an atheist. Isn't it logical that u set the ball rolling.

Do u argue that atheism IS science?

noetic2:

Since u are an atheist. Isn't it logical that u set the ball rolling.

Do u argue that atheism IS science?

Thanks for giving me the opportunity. No, atheism is NOT science.

And that is my final position.( On this one, I am dogmatic ).

huxley2:

Thanks for giving me the opportunity. No, atheism is NOT science.

And that is my final position.( On this one, I am dogmatic ).

On that one, I am MORE dogmatic than you!!  

May I even go one step further to show my hard-line dogmatism? Here:

       No worldview is science

       or, another way to state it is this:

       Science is NOT a worldview!

How can any one compare atheism to science, its just ludicrous to even think of it. I have strong believe in science, and yet I believe in God, although I have my own views, just like Charles Darwin believed that human existence was based on evolution of  life, there is still a side of me that believe there has to be a God, as science can't explain the big bang theory, just has the bible said, so does science it all started with a Big Bang, and life started.

But yet there is still no proof that God exist, but yet we all still fall to our news and go to church every weekend praying that God helps us in our every day life.

Firstly at Noetic you've passed the pass mark i can admit you are no atheist.

Now Huxley from your post;

huxley2:

You can define atheism any number of ways

1) Simple or weak atheism

Is the view that there are on good evidence to belief in a god or gods

OR

The lack of a belief in god or gods (sometimes referred to as "no belief in god"

2) Strong atheism

A categorical assertion that there are no god(s) (sometimes referred to as "no-god belief)


Now, is any of this science? Over to you!

Partially correct and from the above i believe you'll agree with me  why i concluded that atheist are confused set of people. However since they seems to disbelief in God and anything per se tell me how can these confused set of people would want to belief in velocity or gravity. Lets start from here  

skyone:

However since they seems to disbelief in God and anything per se tell me how can these confused set of people would want to belief in velocity or gravity. Lets start from here

Lol, okay. . . this is where I take a back seat. Enjoy.

However since they seems to disbelief in God and anything per se tell me how can these confused set of people would want to belief in velocity or gravity. Lets start from here Smiley

What does Velocity and Gravity have to do with believing in God, can you try to elaborate what you mean, I dont' see any relation.

huxley2:

Thanks for giving me the opportunity. No, atheism is NOT science.

And that is my final position.( On this one, I am dogmatic ).

So whats the basis of ur atheistic beliefs?

noetic2:

So whats the basis of ur atheistic beliefs?

Pardon me, but is that the question of the thread? What is wrong with you? Please, stick to the question of the thread or incur some caustic insults which I shall save until you try to derail the thread again.

huxley2:

Pardon me, but is that the question of the thread? What is wrong with you? Please, stick to the question of the thread or incur some caustic insults which I shall save until you try to derail the thread again.

U said atheism is not science. fine.

The question is, if atheism is not science, what then is it? (from ur perspective). is that too difficult to answer?

kolitos007:

What does Velocity and Gravity have to do with believing in God, can you try to elaborate what you mean, I dont' see any relation.

Scienetist belief in science but atheist believes in nothing. Hence there are many scientist who believes in God.

noetic2:

U said atheism is not science. fine.

The question is, if atheism is not science, what then is it? (from ur perspective). is that too difficult to answer?

Did you not see the definitions I gave above?

kolitos007:

How can any one compare atheism to science, its just ludicrous to even think of it. I have strong believe in science, and yet I believe in God, although I have my own views, just like Charles Darwin believed that human existence was based on evolution of life, there is still a side of me that believe there has to be a God, as science can't explain the big bang theory, just has the bible said, so does science it all started with a Big Bang, and life started.

But yet there is still no proof that God exist, but yet we all still fall to our news and go to church every weekend praying that God helps us in our every day life.

Sorry you dont have belief in God if you do you wont question is presence. The bible is the proof

Sorry you dont have belief in God if you do you wont question is presence. The bible is the proof

So who wrote the bible itself, God or man? By the way the original bible was written in accient latin, which was translated by the cathloic, do you not think that words have been mixed up in the first place.

Surely if you can give any explanation in the bible that is a proven fact, then you have got me am afraid you can't do that.

I rest my case

Scienetist belief in science but atheist believes in nothing. Hence there are many scientist who believes in God.

What a load of rubbish,

somebody should pls talk sense here

huxley2:

Did you not see the definitions I gave above?

yes i did. did u state the basis of both atheistic beliefs?

do u have a reading and comprehension problem? if according to u, atheism is not science, what EXACTLY is the basis of ur atheistic belief?

yes i did. did u state the basis of both atheistic beliefs?

do u have a reading and comprehension problem? if according to u, atheism is not science, what EXACTLY is the basis of ur atheistic belief?

This comment just makes me laugh there you are having a go at someones grammer and yet you have come out with load of jargons, what a plonker, how can you even compare science to ahteism.

kolitos007:

So who wrote the bible itself, God or man?

Man wrote the bible but directed by the Holy Spirit hence you will never agree to this because you first need a brain reformation and which will take a real bible study of 2 to 3 months..

kolitos007:

Surely if you can give any explanation in the bible that is a proven fact, then you have got me am afraid you can't do that.
I rest my case

A proven fact to what tell me, anyway i will answer your question in a simple form.

(1) Mount camel in isreal, Prophet Elijah cursed it not to rain on the mountain forever and today when it rains in the surrounding areas it doesn't reaches the mountain top; this is over 2200 years ago (2) River Jordan still there (iii) Nazereth and of recent some divers found some of Pharaoh's chariot's debris, the whole city of Jerusalem name it.

skyone:

Man wrote the bible but directed by the Holy Spirit hence you will never agree to this because you first need a brain reformation and which will take a real bible study of 2 to 3 months..

Don't u know that the bible is heavily flawed or do you yourself need a brain reformation to sus that out?

manmustwac:

Don't u know that the bible is heavily flawed or do you yourself need a brain reformation to sus that out?

i now see you can easily be fooled through unfounded theories which aims to reduce the true christian values. Why read fake articles and theories why not carry out your research instead.

Live a life out of being gullible.

skyone:

Man wrote the bible but directed by the Holy Spirit hence you will never agree to this because you first need a brain reformation and which will take a real bible study of 2 to 3 months..

A proven fact to what tell me, anyway i will answer your question in a simple form.

(1) Mount camel in isreal, Prophet Elijah cursed it not to rain on the mountain forever and today when it rains in the surrounding areas it doesn't reaches the mountain top; this is over 2200 years ago (2) River Jordan still there (iii) Nazereth and of recent some divers found some of Pharaoh's chariot's debris, the whole city of Jerusalem name it.

Where did you get this LIE from? You think you can just come and tell lies in an open forum? Do you know that the University of Haifa is located on the top of mount carmel? Why do you tell lies like this? Everytime it rains it rains on top of mount carmel. Enough of your lies.


University of Haifa atop Mount Carmel in 1996

Can you provide links to your claims that some divers found some of Pharaoh's Chariots? . Do you know that no body even knows the sea the bible is even talking about? People just assume that moses and the jews crossed the red sea.  There is little agreement as to the route that would have been taken by the Israelites. There is very little that can, with certainty, be ascribed to modern-day locations. More than a century of archaeological research has discovered nothing which could support the narrative elements of the book of Exodus.

If we are to go by what you have written about mount carmel then we can also agree that the bible is false because  according to Isa 34:9-10, Edom (the land between the Dead Sea and Gulf of Aqaba) will become burning pitch forever no one will ever pass through it again because It's fire will not be quenched night and day; its smoke will rise forever. From generation to generation. But in truth that has never happened to Edom. People have passed through it for thousands of years up till today

SCIENCE AND THEOLOGY

"Every day we are told of some wonderful discovery of science. But what has theology discovered? The scientist is searching for the truth; the theologian is trying to save his idols. Of all the great inventions and discoveries that go to make human life easier, happier, more rich and glorious, not one can be laid to the work of theology. These triumphs all belong to science. Some day the world will become wise enough to confess that the priest is of no benefit to mankind. The investigator, the student, the inventor, is the true philanthropist, the real benefactor. He finds what is useful to his race, what adds comfort and joy to existence. Science is the hope of the world, the only savior that humanity has had down the ages or will have as man lives on through the centuries."

-Lemuel K. Washburn

RELIGION AND SCIENCE

"When religion attacks science it is like trying to cut down the tree of truth with the hatchet of falsehood. It is unfortunate for Christianity that it was founded on the book of Genesis. A scientific fact is higher authority today than a religious fable. Science has found so many facts that contradict the stories of Genesis that to accept these stories as divine truth is to make falsehood the word of God.
The one particular enemy of every religion is science. With merciless labor her votaries have dethroned one after another idol of man. Science has no creed, no dogmas. Her search is for facts, and on these she stands. If what is discovered by lovers of truth is contrary to the tenets of religion, such tenets must be abandoned, for what is scientifically false cannot be religiously true.

The Christian church is built upon a lot of divine say-soes. Science has found that these say-soes are not so. The only honest thing for Christians to do is to give up the book of Genesis as a reliable record. What men have said that God has said is not necessarily sacred. Men may have lied, and lies are not holy. Christianity has been afraid of the divine name. What it has found in the name of God it has blindly worshiped as the word of God. This stupid action has been a prolific source of mischief. Faith has carried on its innocent back a thousand impositions through fear to doubt.

Science has not found the name of God in the earth or in the heavens. It has ignored the guide-board which the priest of religion nailed to the Bible, "this book shows the way to truth," and has studied the volume of Nature instead. Whatever it has found has been told. What may be honestly inferred from the facts of science is that all religions are humbugs, and that Christianity is a fraud."

-Lemuel K. Washburn