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Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by malvisguy212: 3:34pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
lexiconkabir:alrigh. The fact that some hadith are weak and some are strong indicate the same thing can happen with the quran, I,e the satanic verses. 1 Like |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by Nobody: 3:38pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
malvisguy212:No, Allah is the guardian over the Quran(He promised this Himself). |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by malvisguy212: 3:41pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
lexiconkabir:nonsense , and who is the guardian of the hadith ? |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by Nobody: 3:46pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
malvisguy212:you are yet to be sensible abi? and who is the guardian of the hadith ?Allah didnt promise to guard the hadith, just like how he didnt promise to guard the torah or the injeel, the only book on earth Allah promised to guard is the Quran. |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by Scholar8200(m): 4:01pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
lexiconkabir:Well the God Who gave His Word in those two and the prophets declares that He will watch over His Word to perform it! In another place Jesus plainly said not one jot or tittle will lack fulfilment! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by Nobody: 4:05pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
Scholar8200:interesting, tell me more In another place Jesus plainly said not one jot or tittle will lack fulfilment!fulfilment is different from being preserved hope you know that? |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by Annunaki(m): 4:05pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
lexiconkabir: So how come allaah was unable to guard parts of the original manuscript of the quoran from being eaten by a goat |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by Nobody: 4:08pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
Annunaki:A hadith cant nullify the Quran, but the Quran can nullify the hadith, since the Quran says it is complete, then that hadith together with its claim should be thrown out of the window. |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by Scholar8200(m): 4:34pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
lexiconkabir:If it is not preserved, how will it be recognised when it is being fulfilled? So, preservation is part of fulfilment! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by unphilaz(m): 4:36pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
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Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by Nobody: 4:37pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
Scholar8200:Ok, the laws are not yet fulfilled? |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by unphilaz(m): 4:40pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
lexiconkabir:noted |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by malvisguy212: 4:41pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
lexiconkabir:I only wish you know what you are saying here, is not a surprise to here muslim say, men can easily change God word. What is the need for the hadith ? |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by Nobody: 4:43pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
malvisguy212:see, you have nothing to say, so stay off my mentions. |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by Scholar8200(m): 4:46pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
lexiconkabir:Christ has fulfilled the Law, the Words of God given by the Prophets have partly been fulfilled, some are being fulfilled, others are meant for the future. Over all these, God is watching! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by malvisguy212: 4:47pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
OLAJADON:which one is authentic and which one is not ? |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by unphilaz(m): 4:47pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
malvisguy212:noted |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by unphilaz(m): 4:48pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
Scholar8200:noted |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by unphilaz(m): 4:48pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
Annunaki:noted |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by Nobody: 4:54pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
Scholar8200:if its fulfilled, then how come you say it is equal to preservation to this day? [s]the Words of God given by the Prophets have partly been fulfilled, some are being fulfilled, others are meant for the future. Over all these,[/s] God Almighty is watching!Yes God Almighty is watching! |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by malvisguy212: 4:57pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
Scholar8200:see bro, if you want to discuss fulfillment of the law, this muslim friend will NEVER understand, he think keeping of the law can save a man. Keeping of the law can NEVER change your NATURE. Romans 8:3 For what the LAW WAS POWERLESS to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he CONDEMND SIN IN THE FLESH, Is their anything to explain here ? Keeping the law will not save a man. The muslim man cannot comprehend this. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by unphilaz(m): 4:57pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
Annunaki:notigoat |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by Scholar8200(m): 4:58pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
lexiconkabir:Why did you cancel that? I meant God is watching over them to fulfil them in due course like He did the rest. O, sorry, glad you agreed ! 1 Like |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by malvisguy212: 5:01pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
lexiconkabir:one good thing you say, even though Allah promise to guide HIS word, allah fail to preserve the hadith, which you claim is allah word also . |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by Nobody: 5:04pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
Scholar8200:I deliberately cancelled that because none of these books claimed to be under the guidance of God, what i meant by God Almighty is watching, is that, sooner or later, we will all account for our deeds, by then all what you do, God will reveal them to you, behold! He has the severest of punishments. |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by Nobody: 5:06pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
malvisguy212:fixed! |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by Scholar8200(m): 5:09pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
lexiconkabir:When there are passages to back God's watching over them? Anyway, no problem. |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by malvisguy212: 6:08pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
lexiconkabir:allah promise to preserve the " Remembrance" in Surah 15, Verse 9. And one many occasion the quran. Adress the gospel and torah as the remembrance: Surah 15:2-9 Often will those who disbelieve wish that they had been Muslims. Leave them that they may eat and enjoy themselves and (that) hope may beguile them, for they will soon know. And never did We destroy a town but it had a term made known. No people can hasten on their doom nor can they postpone (it). And they say: O YOU TO WHOM THE REMINDER HAS BEEN REVEALED! you are most surely insane: Why do you not bring to us the angels if you are of the truthful ones? We do not send the angels but with truth, and then they would not be respited. Surely We have revealed the Reminder and We will most surely be its guardian. Allah promise here is not only for the quran, but for ALL books; And they say: O YOU whom the Reminder has been revealed! you are most surely insane.... Lo! We, even We, reveal THE Reminder, and lo! We verily are ITS GUARDIAN. We VERILY SENT (MESSENGERS) BEFOR THEE (arsalna min qablika) among the factions of the men of old. And never came there unto them a messenger but they did mock him. The verses which immediately follow afterwards provide further proof that Reminder here is referring to more than just the Quran. The truth is that allah not only promise to guide the quran only but he promise to guide the books of previous messengers "SENT BEFORE THEE" . Surah 21:24 Or have they taken for worship (other) aliha (gods) besides Him? Say: "Bring your proof:" This (the Qur'an) is the Reminder for those with me AND THE Reminder (wa thikru) for those BEFORE ME. But most of them know not the Truth, so they are averse. Here, the quran author identified the book (quran) and the other books BEFORE ME as the REMINDER. Allah promise to guide the reminder including the torah and gospel. If you insist, give me reason why Allah allow the previous book to be corrupted ? Quranic verse will be appriciated. |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by OLAJADON: 8:57pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
malvisguy212:their is a book of adith, that consisr of authentic adith...u cant just come here and tell us something is adith and expect of to believe u...moreover their are some adith that contradict the quran, you can find them in the adith book..u cn only find them online....their was a hadith i heard of that tlks abur mohammed eating and the stew fall on is shirt( those this make sense to u).... SO THAT WHY AM ASKING IS ADITH U ARE COATING AUTHENTIC? HOW DID U FIND IT? FROM WHICH HADITH BOOK? |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by malvisguy212: 9:42pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
OLAJADON:so sahih bukhari hadith is not authentic ? 1 Like |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by Annunaki(m): 6:00am On Feb 19, 2016 |
lexiconkabir: Common sense dictates that the quoran itself cannot be the confirmation of it's own authority or credibility. It as to be confirmed by an external credible source before we can even begin to consider it. It's like mohamed making claims to being a prophet and having zero credible evidence to back the claim apart from his lying tongue. That said, your quoran has too many errors, contradictions and inconsistencies for any reasonable person to take it seriously and even much less take it as a book of authority. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by Nobody: 6:04am On Feb 19, 2016 |
Annunaki:I didnt read any of this trash |
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