Presido1:


When will Fash ban all these molue and okada riders.

chidichris:

govt self. no rescue. may God help us

Abuzola:

This happen near my area , atleast 27 people were reported dead and it was a Road safety that pursue the moluwe which made it to fall in a ditch at ILE ZIK near ajayi farm

ElRazur:

Seat belt - We recently bought a ford transit bus from here that is meant for Nigeria. The thing I noticed is how ever one of the 15 seat have a seat belt fitted as standard. I mean, how hard would it be to enforce people to use seat belt?

presido1:

Dude if you enforce seat belt in molue how about the standing passengers? Standing belt i presume.   T[b]hose death traps need to be banned from Nigerian roads. Seat belt wun't solve anything inside molue.[/b]

GBAM!!!
That is exactly what needs to be done
Molues need to be gathered off the roads and collectively crushed
The recycled products can be used to make brand new peak milk tins and cooking pots!

ElRazur:

When people refuse to move and develop with time. Shi.t like this happens. To be brutally honest, I have little or no sympathy for anyone of them.

Simple things that could have avoided this is as follows:

Seat belt - We recently bought a ford transit bus from here that is meant for Nigeria. The thing I noticed is how ever one of the 15 seat have a seat belt fitted as standard. I mean, how hard would it be to enforce people to use seat belt?

Qualified drivers only - How many drivers on Nigeria's road would take  British driving test and actually pass? It is ironic that British roads are well paved and tarred, yet they have a rigourous driving test one have to pass before becoming a qualified and licensed driver. Yet on contrast, Nigeria's road network is nothing to write home about, but we have millions of unsuitable cars and unqualified drivers.  It is disgusting that with the right price, one can obtain a drivers licence in Nigeria without even sitting a test.

For me the last option is the most important as it would help people to be road aware etc. It is scary how people drive on Nigeria's road like they have a spare life in a savings account somewhere.


As far as am concerned, until we elevate our thinking and what not, these sort of news would be a regular occurrence.


PS
While the govt. may not ban these sort of vehicles outright, at least they can have "Speedometer restriction" on them. I.e restricted to something like 50km per hour. This action alone would go a long way to help reduce incidence like this.

presido1:

Another accident prone ford on its way to Nigeria. You are preaching road safety yet you are sending a RHD commuter bus to a LHD country.
Dude if you enforce seat belt in molue how about the standing passengers? Standing belt i presume.

ElRazur:


If this is true, what was the driver thinking? How do you outrun a Road Safety officer in one of those things?   Unless off course, these officers are on foot or something.

Dis Guy:

Hold it.  .  .

which of the two things youve highlighted is the responsibility of the poor passengers?
is it the passenger that is meant to check the driver is qualified?
are the passengers responsible for enforcing seat belts?

Dis Guy:

actually the sanity of the FRSC should be caled into question lagos is not exactly somalia, and its not like molues operate outside lagos,
why cant they just get the picture or registration number of the molue- either wait  to see it another day, trace it to the registered address
is it really sensible to chase a heavy bus in a congested city like Lagos with bad roads and very high pedestrians

_{is the frsc not the same as lastma}

ElRazur:


In the UK, a public vehicle with passengers standing on board have limited speed. While those with seat belts have no room for standing passenger by law. I think we can learn from the UK, after all they invented the seat belt [if memory serves me right]

presido1:

How many public vehicle in UK have seat belt? I mean all those TFL buses that covers the same distance like molues in Lagos. The only public vehicle that enforce seat belt in UK are those that go intra-city like National Express and other coaches that runs on hire. Even the white van drivers that do drop off are not enforced to put on seat belt.

Seat Belt is not the solution as far as molue is concerned. Curbing reckless driving, drink driving, Goad roads, qualified drivers will go a long way is reducing the number of accidents in lagos roads.

This kind of accident is what you get when your transportion is being managed by Agberos. I say ban ban ban all those molues and bring in more BRT buses.

Limiting the speed is another good thing but who will enforce it, Nobody!.

Out of anger of hearing, seeing and witnessing these sort of things.  I have no sympathy

ElRazur:

Out of anger of hearing, seeing and witnessing these sort of things.  I have no sympathy

I[b]N the UK, failing to stop when asked to do so by a man/officer representing the law is actually a criminal offence. I would think, Nigeria have similar laws. If he had stopped, perhaps these could have been averted?
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As for tracing the address, Nigeria's system is not as advanced like we would all like. Some of these cars have been on the road for like 20years or so, way before the advent of using a simplified data base of registered owners in Nigeria.

chidichris:

@ElRazur,
who are u angry with? the dead passangers? the driver or the frsc? or are u angry with the govt of the country for not providing adquate resqcue facilities?
or could it be that you are angry with those of us here who happens to be nigerians which is not by choice?

Dis Guy:

Yes it is but you'll notice unlike the US, they call off car chase when lives are at risk, they turn to technology, CCTV, car registration address or just put it on the file for another day and then add it to your profile.

if the cars are without address chances of spotting it at a later date is even higher, they usually ply the same route. a picture of the driver, distinct dent on the car would have been enough. and with all the money they are collecting as fines, mandating all commercial vehicles in the state to register within six months wont be a big problem. leader are just not creative imagine the amount of people that can be employed inputting car reg/insurance/tax data into the system in the whole country so many avenues to generate money and create employment very incompetent frsc people! they just wear uniform feeling powerful in the scorching heat!

ElRazur:

I agree. My approach was a simple one that can be easily checked by officers etc. It is more visible to see if a seat belt is on, than trying to catch if a driver is under the influence.

White van drivers are bound by law to wear their seat belts. No excuse. Unless of course there is something I am not aware of.

Again I agree to some extent. An outright ban won't work, it would almost collapse the transport network in somewhere like Lagos and other commercial cities. A gradual phasing out may be a better option. Which can be achieved via bringing in other alternatives like you mentioned.

presido1:

Dude its more easy to check if the driver is under the influence of alcohol than to check every passenger for seat belt inside a molue and more over seat belt can never work in molue unless you are talking another kind of molue that am not aware of. How can you enforce seat belt in a situation where 30 passengers gets off and another comes in every 5-10 minutes. Again no where in this world you will see seat belt in such commuter buses like molue or TFL. We have to prevent the accident from happening first and we can only do that through the driver and govt(Gud road).

They are not, when you see one stop him and ask.

The law requires that drivers and passengers aged 14 and over in cars, vans and other commercial vehicles must wear a seatbelt if available. As a driver you are responsible for ensuring that anyone under the age of 14 wears a seat belt or use an appropriate child restraint as required in the regulations

Oboy must you quote UK in every of your post?

MrCrackles:

GBAM!!!
That is exactly what needs to be done
Molue's need to be gathered off the roads and collectively crushed
The recycled products can be used to make brand new peak milk tins and cooking pots!

MrCrackles:

GBAM!!!
That is exactly what needs to be done
Molues need to be gathered off the roads and collectively crushed
The recycled products can be used to make brand new peak milk tins and cooking pots!

Remember the people voted the same govt into power etc.

chidichris:

@ElRazur,
i can take everything u have said here but not this comment above.
were u there when nigerians vote them into power?
these are millitary civilains who seized power by force and have decided to rule over us even without our consent.