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Evidence For The Existence Of Satan (or The Devil) by huxley2(m): 9:57am On Jun 28, 2009 |
Christian apologist have used all manner of arguments to justify the existence of their god. Arguments such as 1) the ontological argument 2) Teleological arguments, 3) First Cause arguments, 4) Arguments from Design and the anthropic principle, etc, etc, etc. Could these same arguments be used to argue for the existence of the antithesis of God, that is, Satan? What is the evidence that Satan or the Devil exists? |
Re: Evidence For The Existence Of Satan (or The Devil) by Tudor6(f): 12:24pm On Jun 28, 2009 |
Using what we usually see from christians on NL this is their evidence Rev. 12: 7- 9 7.Now war arose in heaven, Micheal and his angels fighting against the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8. but they were defeated and there was no longer any place for them in heaven 9. And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world - he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels down with him.[/b]This counts as evidence in the twisted world of jesus and his deceived followers. |
Re: Evidence For The Existence Of Satan (or The Devil) by Image123(m): 12:40pm On Jun 28, 2009 |
@posters the devil is not the antithesis of God. You are a living proof of the existence and 'busyness' of the devil. |
Re: Evidence For The Existence Of Satan (or The Devil) by wisedge: 12:43pm On Jun 28, 2009 |
The existence of Huxley, Tudor and other agents of darkness are enough evidence that satan exists and operates through human beings knowingly and unknowingly. |
Re: Evidence For The Existence Of Satan (or The Devil) by Tudor6(f): 1:15pm On Jun 28, 2009 |
Shame! The only evidence you can give for the existence of the 'devil' is to call me devil. How lazy is that? |
Re: Evidence For The Existence Of Satan (or The Devil) by bindex(m): 2:52pm On Jun 28, 2009 |
I just don't understand why satan is invisible . Christians say that god is invisible because he wants people to believe in him out of their own freewill. But what about satan? Is he invisible because people have to believe in him out of their own free will too? |
Re: Evidence For The Existence Of Satan (or The Devil) by Tudor6(f): 4:26pm On Jun 28, 2009 |
I wonder |
Re: Evidence For The Existence Of Satan (or The Devil) by toneyb: 5:21pm On Jun 28, 2009 |
bindex: How can the belief survive if satan and god are both visible? of course they need to be invisible. They are both invisible because they exist only in the imaginations of those that believe in them and what to use them or turn them into what ever they want them to be. |
Re: Evidence For The Existence Of Satan (or The Devil) by divineson: 2:48pm On Jun 30, 2009 |
The devil can use anyone dat allows him into his body |
Re: Evidence For The Existence Of Satan (or The Devil) by Tudor6(f): 3:02pm On Jun 30, 2009 |
How? |
Re: Evidence For The Existence Of Satan (or The Devil) by divineson: 3:16pm On Jun 30, 2009 |
If u look at the world today, theres nothin to write about, in term of obedient to God,the human heart is continually thinkin of evil such as, sexual immmorality, 419,idolatry,robbery, prostitution,, the devil is always on the move in their heart every time, so also the commandment of Almighty God is progammed in mans heart, but choose out of ur freewill, because devil himself has never change tactics, but resist the devil and he will flee from you |
Re: Evidence For The Existence Of Satan (or The Devil) by jagunlabi(m): 3:17pm On Jun 30, 2009 |
The first question that came to my mind when i was a kid just getting into this christian fairy tale doctrine was, "How can war break out in a place like heaven where there is supposed be only goodness?" Nobody has ever been able to answer that till date. -HOW CAN THERE BE WAR IN HEAVEN? -WHAT BUG COULD HAVE GOT INTO LUCIFER TO MAKE HIM TURN ON HIS BOSS,GOD? -WHERE DIDI THE BUG COME FROM? -HOW DID THE BUG ENTER INTO HEAVEN? -CAN WAR BREAK OUT IN HEAVEN AGAIN? -IF WAR CAN BREAK OUT IN HEAVEN THEN DOES THAT MEAN IT IS A PLACE SUSCEPTIBLE TO EVIL,HENCE IT IS NOT PERFECT? Ofcourse i have since discovered the sumerian "ENUMA ELISH" and the EPIC OF GILGAMESH from where the whole tale was lifted,so the questions have long become redundant. Tudór: |
Re: Evidence For The Existence Of Satan (or The Devil) by jagunlabi(m): 3:21pm On Jun 30, 2009 |
In the bible OT,the events that unfolded were nothing to write home about either,and the humans at that time were killing,maiming,raping,pillaging one another in OBEDIENCE to the "almighty"god.This means,ofcourse,that this god does not mind the evil such as,sexual immmorality, 419,idolatry,robbery, prostitution.So why blame the devil who never instigated any such vile acts in the bible? You really need to look for more valid reasons for the present situation of mankind. divineson: |
Re: Evidence For The Existence Of Satan (or The Devil) by divineson: 3:34pm On Jun 30, 2009 |
Thru our first parent, sin enter us, then thru christ we are redeemed, i mean only thru jesus christ, Let me make one thing clear to u, if u are a believer u accepted jesus christ u do commmit any sin, u don't near alcohol and u dont have faith in God nothin will work out , because God do try our faith.and i think that b4 d federal Govt built the nation Prison, they know already that,there will be breakers of law, so u should trace the source of mankind situation. So you really need to look for more valid reasons for the present situation of mankind |
Re: Evidence For The Existence Of Satan (or The Devil) by jagunlabi(m): 3:38pm On Jun 30, 2009 |
Goodness!You are such a child,such a baby,if you believe what you wrote.And you leaving this world still in your diapers is getting more and more probable by the day.You better grow up. divineson: |
Re: Evidence For The Existence Of Satan (or The Devil) by bindex(m): 2:33am On Jul 01, 2009 |
divineson: Who are your first parents? The mythical Adam and Eve that were deceived to eat from the tree of knowledge? Do you know that the entire tale was plagiarized from the persians and put into your bible? I don't have faith in your god and most things have been working out for me. |
Re: Evidence For The Existence Of Satan (or The Devil) by Tudor6(f): 8:49am On Jul 01, 2009 |
Yeah, me too. And am living a joyful and peaceful life. . . |
Re: Evidence For The Existence Of Satan (or The Devil) by Tudor6(f): 8:51am On Jul 01, 2009 |
Hey bindex,do you know where i can get the original story plagiarised by the deluded moses? I'd love to read more. |
Re: Evidence For The Existence Of Satan (or The Devil) by toneyb: 10:55am On Jul 01, 2009 |
Tudór: I have watched a documentary about it where a guy went looking for the garden on eden, the documentary is tittled the real garden of eden if I am not mistaken and his search took him to Iran where the story originated from and he showed some evidence cravings that were engraved on walls and on stones that showed that the people had their own very similar story of their god putting a man and a woman in a garden before the jews had theirs. Adam and Eve (and Babel): late additions to the Old Testament Noah's flood and the tower of babel myth were also copied from earlier civilizations who had similar stories. |
Re: Evidence For The Existence Of Satan (or The Devil) by Tudor6(f): 11:11am On Jul 01, 2009 |
Thanks man. I hope the blind christian apologists see this. |
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