That the words of the Bible are coming true concerning Ishmael shows it is the word of God. The Bible says Ishmael shall be blessed and twelve princes shall come out of him and it is exactly so (Gen. 17:20). This same authentic words allaah said is corrupt.

Again, this is another fulfilment of the Bible for Ishmael:


International Standard Version
He (Ishmael) shall be a wild donkey of a man. He'll be against everyone, and everyone will be against him. He will live in conflict with all of his relatives."(Gen. 16:12)

Muhammad who brought islam is said to be a descendant of Ishmael. We can see today that everyone' s hand is against them and their hand is against everyone. Thinking about islamic terrorism worldwide.

Is the Bible not correct ? Allah must not have said the truth.

so?

excellencyabia1:
so?

The Bible is the word of God.

Muhammad and muslims are WILD people.

The quran lies that muslims are the best of mankind.

truthman2012:

The Bible is the word of God.
Muhammad and muslims are WILD people.
The quran lies that muslims are the best of mankind.

Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?

God did (2 Samuel 24: 1)
Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1)

In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel?

Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
One million, one hundred thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)

How many fighting men were found in Judah?

Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)

God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine?

Seven (2 Samuel 24:13)
Three (I Chronicles 21:12)

How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem?

Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26)
Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2)

How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem?

Eighteen (2 Kings 24:
Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9)

How long did he rule over Jerusalem?

Three months (2 Kings 24:
Three months and ten days (2 Chronicles 36:9)

The chief of the mighty men of David lifted up his spear and killed how many men at one time?

Eight hundred (2 Samuel 23:
Three hundred (I Chronicles 11: 11)

When did David bring the Ark of the Covenant to Jerusalem? Before defeating the Philistines or after?

After (2 Samuel 5 and 6)
Before (I Chronicles 13 and 14)

How many pairs of clean animals did God tell Noah to take into the Ark?

Two (Genesis 6:19, 20)
Seven (Genesis 7:2). But despite this last instruction only two pairs went into the ark (Genesis 7:8-9)

hockeyoilers:


Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?

God did (2 Samuel 24: 1)
Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1)

In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel?

Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
One million, one hundred thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)

How many fighting men were found in Judah?

Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)

God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine?

Seven (2 Samuel 24:13)
Three (I Chronicles 21:12)

How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem?

Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26)
Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2)

How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem?

Eighteen (2 Kings 24:
Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9)

How long did he rule over Jerusalem?

Three months (2 Kings 24:
Three months and ten days (2 Chronicles 36:9)

The chief of the mighty men of David lifted up his spear and killed how many men at one time?

Eight hundred (2 Samuel 23:
Three hundred (I Chronicles 11: 11)

When did David bring the Ark of the Covenant to Jerusalem? Before defeating the Philistines or after?

After (2 Samuel 5 and 6)
Before (I Chronicles 13 and 14)

How many pairs of clean animals did God tell Noah to take into the Ark?

Two (Genesis 6:19, 20)
Seven (Genesis 7:2). But despite this last instruction only two pairs went into the ark (Genesis 7:8-9)

How is that relevant to the topic, fake white man?

Check here for allaah's blunders and CONTRADICTIONS:

www.nairaland.com/2511448/contradictions-quran

Bible confirms Prophet Jesus peace be upon him, prayed as Muslims pray.

truthman2012:


How is that relevant to the topic, fake white man?

Check here for allaah's blunders and CONTRADICTIONS:

www.nairaland.com/2511448/contradictions-quran

Confirms your book is either a book of lies or corrupted

Say, `O men, now has the truth come to you from your Lord. So whoever follow the guidance, follows it only for the good of his own soul, and whoever errs, errs only against it. And I am not a keeper over you.’ (Holy Quran 10:108)

truthman2012:


The Bible is the word of God.

Muhammad and muslims are WILD people.

The quran lies that muslims are the best of mankind.

Your God gets tired and needs to rest. Seriously you've become a joke now.

hockeyoilers:
Bible confirms Prophet Jesus peace be upon him, prayed as Muslims pray.

Where in the Bible did you find that ? That is one of the lies they told you to become a mislim. You have been deceived.


How do muslims pray? Solat? Solat involves ablution i.e washing your head, nose, mouth, ear, leg, hand etc. and face Kaaba. Now tell me where Jesus or anybody did all those each time they wanted to pray in the Bible.

truthman2012:


Where in the Bible did you find that ? That is one of the lies they told you to become a mislim. You have been deceived.


How do muslims pray? Solat? Solat involves ablution i.e washing your head, nose, mouth, ear, leg, hand etc. and face Kaaba. Now tell me where Jesus or anybody did all those each time they wanted to pray in the Bible.

Mark 26:39 my brother

hockeyoilers:



Mark 26:39 my brother

You are a liar.

The Book of Mark ends at Chapter 16.

Besides, you lack knowledge of Bible interpretation.

Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, "My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will."

Matthew 26 : 39

You see a splinter in my eye, yet there is a lumber yard in yours

hockeyoilers:
Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, "My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will."

Matthew 26 : 39

You displayed a high level ignorance.

Where did you see ablution there?

How many times was he falling with his face to the ground when praying?

Do muslims fall with their face to the ground or prostrate? Do you put your chest on the ground as in falling?

You were converted to islam with lies and deception. It is a pity.

truthman2012:

The Bible is the word of God.
Muhammad and muslims are WILD people.
The quran lies that muslims are the best of mankind.

people pay what ever to get what ever

excellencyabia1:
people pay what ever to get what ever

Meaning?

hockeyoilers:


Your God gets tired and needs to rest. Seriously you've become a joke now.

He didn't get tired, God rested after finishing what He had to do in six days. He didn't rest and continued working. Rest in this context means He stopped. Ignoramus.

truthman2012:

How is that relevant to the topic, fake white man?
Check here for allaah's blunders and CONTRADICTIONS:
www.nairaland.com/2511448/contradictions-quran

It’s All In The Bible; Contradictions and errors... not the word of God Has anyone ever seen God? According to the Pentateuch, God made an appearance in human form over a dozen times in front of several people, such as Abraham, Jacob, and Moses (e.g. Genesis 12:7, Genesis 32:30, and Exodus 33:11, respectively). However, Jesus and John claim that no one has ever seen God face to face (John 6:46 and John 1:18, respectively). Was Ahaziah eighteen years younger or two years older than his father (2 Kings 8:26 and 2 Chronicles 21:20-22:2, respectively)? The Bible says that a man was two years older than his father, yet Christians still parade it as perfect! Perhaps these apologists only read the NIV translation of 2 Chronicles, which deceitfully alters Ahaziah’s age from forty-two to twenty- two with only a minor footnote. Even more astounding than this perplexity is the exceedingly unfortunate Saul who died via four different methods: suicide by sword (1 Samuel 31:4-5), death by an Amalekite (2 Samuel 1:8-10), death by a Philistine (2 Samuel 21:12), and struck down by God (1 Chronicles 10:13-14). How did Judas die after betraying Jesus? The popular account of Matthew is that he hung himself (27:5). However, there’s a lesser-known account of how he died in Acts. “Now [Judas] purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out” (1:18). I’ll openly admit that the common explanation proposed for this contradiction is one of the funniest things I’ve ever heard. Evidently, this is what took place: Judas hung himself from an extremely elevated tree branch in the field, the branch snapped, he did a flip to fall head first, and his body exploded upon impact. If someone were to add “how-it- could-have-been-scenario” in the dictionary, the editor would surely have to consider this example for inclusion. There’s even a contradiction related to how the field was purchased. Matthew says Judas took the money that he received as a reward for surrendering Jesus and threw it into a temple. The priests within the temple then used the money to buy a field for burying strangers (Matthew 27:5-7). Remember, however, Acts claims that Judas, not the priests, was the one responsible for buying the field. The most likely reason for this blaring contradiction is a lack of one author’s access to the contrasting records of the other. Had something lifted this assumed restriction, we could be reasonably certain that this contradiction would disappear. In the Gospel according to Mark, Jesus sends his disciples on a journey and tells them to take nothing but their staves and sandals (6:8-9). In Luke, Jesus says to take nothing, provides a list of items that the disciples are to leave behind, and includes staves on the list (9:3). In Matthew, Jesus reaffirms his desire for the disciples to leave everything at home, including both shoes and staves (10:10). Such a seemingly inconsequential detail is important for one reason only: demonstrating yet again that the Bible is a fallible record scribed by humans, not the perfect word of an eternal god. Here are a few more impossible puzzles for you to solve if you ever get bored: “No man hath ascended up to heaven” (John 3:13) versus “Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven” (2 Kings 2:11); “And one kid of the goats for a sin offering: to make an atonement for you” (Numbers 29:5) versus “For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins” (Hebrews 10:4); “If a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him” (1 Corinthians 11:14) versus “He shall be holy, and shall let the locks of the hair on his head grow” (Numbers 6:5); “The earth abideth for ever” (Ecclesiastes 1:4) versus “Heaven and earth shall pass away” (Matthew 24:35); “And the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go and number Israel” (2 Samuel 24:1) versus “And Satan stood up against Israel and provoked David to number Israel” (1 Chronicles 21:1); “Walk in the ways of thine heart, and in the sight of thine eyes” (Ecclesiastes 11:9) versus “Seek not after your own heart and your own eyes” (Numbers 15:39); “That Christ should suffer, and he should be the first that should rise from the dead” (Acts 26:23) versus Lazarus rising from the dead months ago (John 11:43) and the previous resurrection miracles of Elijah centuries in the past. Did the fig tree cursed by Jesus wither immediately (Matthew 21:19-20) or overnight (Mark 11:13-21)? Did Jehoiachin reign three months and ten days when he was eight (2 Chronicles 36:9) or three months when he was eighteen (2 Kings 24:?

mustymatic:

It’s All In The Bible; Contradictions and errors... not the word of God
Has anyone ever seen God? According to the
Pentateuch, God made an appearance in human
form over a dozen times in front of several
people, such as Abraham, Jacob, and Moses (e.g.
Genesis 12:7, Genesis 32:30, and Exodus 33:11,
respectively). However, Jesus and John claim
that no one has ever seen God face to face (John
6:46 and John 1:18, respectively).
Was Ahaziah eighteen years younger or two
years older than his father (2 Kings 8:26 and 2
Chronicles 21:20-22:2, respectively)? The Bible
says that a man was two years older than his
father, yet Christians still parade it as perfect!
Perhaps these apologists only read the NIV
translation of 2 Chronicles, which deceitfully
alters Ahaziah’s age from forty-two to twenty-
two with only a minor footnote. Even more
astounding than this perplexity is the exceedingly
unfortunate Saul who died via four different
methods: suicide by sword (1 Samuel 31:4-5),
death by an Amalekite (2 Samuel 1:8-10), death
by a Philistine (2 Samuel 21:12), and struck down
by God (1 Chronicles 10:13-14).
How did Judas die after betraying Jesus? The
popular account of Matthew is that he hung
himself (27:5). However, there’s a lesser-known
account of how he died in Acts. “Now [Judas]
purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and
falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst,
and all his bowels gushed out” (1:18). I’ll openly
admit that the common explanation proposed for
this contradiction is one of the funniest things
I’ve ever heard. Evidently, this is what took place:
Judas hung himself from an extremely elevated
tree branch in the field, the branch snapped, he
did a flip to fall head first, and his body exploded
upon impact. If someone were to add “how-it-
could-have-been-scenario” in the dictionary, the
editor would surely have to consider this example
for inclusion.
There’s even a contradiction related to how
the field was purchased. Matthew says Judas
took the money that he received as a reward for
surrendering Jesus and threw it into a temple.
The priests within the temple then used the
money to buy a field for burying strangers
(Matthew 27:5-7). Remember, however, Acts
claims that Judas, not the priests, was the one
responsible for buying the field. The most likely
reason for this blaring contradiction is a lack of
one author’s access to the contrasting records of
the other. Had something lifted this assumed
restriction, we could be reasonably certain that
this contradiction would disappear.
In the Gospel according to Mark, Jesus sends
his disciples on a journey and tells them to take
nothing but their staves and sandals (6:8-9). In
Luke, Jesus says to take nothing, provides a list
of items that the disciples are to leave behind,
and includes staves on the list (9:3). In Matthew,
Jesus reaffirms his desire for the disciples to
leave everything at home, including both shoes
and staves (10:10). Such a seemingly
inconsequential detail is important for one reason
only: demonstrating yet again that the Bible is a
fallible record scribed by humans, not the perfect
word of an eternal god.
Here are a few more impossible puzzles for
you to solve if you ever get bored: “No man hath
ascended up to heaven” (John 3:13) versus
“Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven” (2
Kings 2:11); “And one kid of the goats for a sin
offering: to make an atonement for
you” (Numbers 29:5) versus “For it is not
possible that the blood of bulls and of goats
should take away sins” (Hebrews 10:4); “If a man
have long hair, it is a shame unto him” (1
Corinthians 11:14) versus “He shall be holy, and
shall let the locks of the hair on his head
grow” (Numbers 6:5); “The earth abideth for
ever” (Ecclesiastes 1:4) versus “Heaven and earth
shall pass away” (Matthew 24:35); “And the
anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel, and
he moved David against them to say, Go and
number Israel” (2 Samuel 24:1) versus “And
Satan stood up against Israel and provoked David
to number Israel” (1 Chronicles 21:1); “Walk in
the ways of thine heart, and in the sight of thine
eyes” (Ecclesiastes 11:9) versus “Seek not after
your own heart and your own eyes” (Numbers
15:39); “That Christ should suffer, and he should
be the first that should rise from the dead” (Acts
26:23) versus Lazarus rising from the dead
months ago (John 11:43) and the previous
resurrection miracles of Elijah centuries in the
past. Did the fig tree cursed by Jesus wither
immediately (Matthew 21:19-20) or overnight
(Mark 11:13-21)? Did Jehoiachin reign three
months and ten days when he was eight (2
Chronicles 36:9) or three months when he was
eighteen (2 Kings 24:?

Stop deceiving yourself. Even your god, allaah knows the Bible is the word of God. Do you know better than him ?

Qur'an 5:43
How come they come unto the (i.e Muhammad) for judgment when they have the Torah, wherein Allah hath delivered judgment (for them)? Yet even after that they turn away. Such (folk) are not believers.
Even at Muhammad's time till today the Torah was valid for judgment, but only the people turned away from it according to Allah.

Qur'an 5:47
Let the People of the Gospel judge by that which Allah hath revealed therein. Whoso judgeth not by that
which Allah hath revealed: such are evil-doers. The Gospel was also valid for judgment at Muhammad's time and till date.

Quran 5:71
Say: "O People of the Book! (i.e the Jews and the Christians) Ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye standfast by the Law, the Gospel and all the revelations that has come to you from your Lord.
How could Allah say Jews and Christians should stand fast by the Law and Gospel if they have been corrupted?

truthman2012:


Stop deceiving yourself. Even your god, allaah knows the Bible is the word of God. Do you know better than him ?

Qur'an 5:43
How come they come unto the (i.e Muhammad) for judgment when they have the Torah, wherein Allah hath delivered judgment (for them)? Yet even after that they turn away. Such (folk) are not believers.
Even at Muhammad's time till today the Torah was valid for judgment, but only the people turned away from it according to Allah.

Qur'an 5:47
Let the People of the Gospel judge by that which Allah hath revealed therein. Whoso judgeth not by that
which Allah hath revealed: such are evil-doers. The Gospel was also valid for judgment at Muhammad's time and till date.

Quran 5:71
Say: "O People of the Book! (i.e the Jews and the Christians) Ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye standfast by the Law, the Gospel and all the revelations that has come to you from your Lord.
How could Allah say Jews and Christians should stand fast by the Law and Gospel if they have been corrupted?

It's clearly not you people... those who really believe and follow the teachings

mustymatic:

It's clearly not you people... those who really believe and follow the teachings

Trash !

What is the difference between the Jews of Muhammad's time and the Jews of today ?

What is the difference between the Christians of Muhammad's time and the Christians of today ?

truthman2012:


Meaning?

that any man might make statement to achieve any purpose they wish

excellencyabia1:
that any man might make statement to achieve any purpose they wish

Then, it is left for the audience to verify such a statement. It a statement is found to be false, it should be rejected outright.

Ahunsubillahi minashaytanirojim

truthman2012:


Then, it is left for the audience to verify such a statement. It a statement is found to be false, it should be rejected outright.

how many have the time to evaluate such issues

excellencyabia1:
how many have the time to evaluate such issues

Then, they will bear the consequence(s) of acting on error.

truthman2012:


Then, they will bear the consequence(s) of acting on error.

that is why delusion has become food for many.

truthman2012:


Trash !

What is the difference between the Jews of Muhammad's time and the Jews of today ?

What is the difference between the Christians of Muhammad's time and the Christians of today ?

The religion is Allah's ..

Truly, the religion with Allâh is Islâm. Those who
were given the Scripture (Jews and Christians)
did not differ except, out of mutual jealousy, after
knowledge had come to them. And whoever
disbelieves in the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses,
signs, revelations, etc.) of Allâh, then surely, Allâh
is Swift in calling to account. (Qur'aan 3:19)
[1] Those who disbelieve from among the people
of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) and among
Pagans, were not going to leave (their disbelief)
until there came to them clear evidence.
[2] A Messenger (Muhammad) from Allâh, reciting
(the Qur'ân) purified pages.
[3] Containing correct and straight laws from
Allâh.
[4] And the people of the Scripture (Jews and
Christians) differed not until after there came to
them clear evidence. (i.e. Prophet Muhammad
(Peace be upon him) and whatever was revealed
to him).
[5] And they were commanded not, but that they
should worship Allâh, and worship none but Him
Alone (abstaining from ascribing partners to
Him), and perform Prayers and give Charity: and
that is the right religion.
If they are believers they should use wat was sent to them since they refused to believe. simple

truthman2012:


Stop deceiving yourself. Even your god, allaah knows the Bible is the word of God. Do you know better than him ?

Qur'an 5:43
How come they come unto the (i.e Muhammad) for judgment when they have the Torah, wherein Allah hath delivered judgment (for them)? Yet even after that they turn away. Such (folk) are not believers.
Even at Muhammad's time till today the Torah was valid for judgment, but only the people turned away from it according to Allah.

Qur'an 5:47
Let the People of the Gospel judge by that which Allah hath revealed therein. Whoso judgeth not by that
which Allah hath revealed: such are evil-doers. The Gospel was also valid for judgment at Muhammad's time and till date.

Quran 5:71
Say: "O People of the Book! (i.e the Jews and the Christians) Ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye standfast by the Law, the Gospel and all the revelations that has come to you from your Lord.
How could Allah say Jews and Christians should stand fast by the Law and Gospel if they have been corrupted?

@ mustymatic

If allaah says anything to contradict his own revelations above, he must be a deceiver.

Jeremiah 4:10

Then I said, "Ah, Sovereign LORD, how completely you have deceived (nasha) this people and Jerusalem by saying, 'You will have peace,' when the sword is at our throats."



The word for deceived here is nasha, which means...



1) to beguile, deceive

a) (Niphal) to be beguiled
b) (Hiphil) to beguile, deceive
c) (Qal) utterly (infinitive)

1 Kings 22:20-22

20 And the LORD said, 'Who will entice Ahab into attacking Ramoth Gilead and going to his death there?'
"One suggested this, and another that. 21 Finally, a spirit came forward, stood before the LORD and said, 'I will entice him.'

22 " 'By what means?' the LORD asked.
" 'I will go out and be a lying spirit in the mouths of all his prophets,' he said.
" 'You will succeed in enticing him,' said the LORD. 'Go and do it.'