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Re: Woman, Your Husband Is Your God. by Ishilove: 9:40pm On Feb 17, 2016
MrPresident1:

You never read that part wen Jesus talk say greater works shall His followers do abi? grin
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Re: Woman, Your Husband Is Your God. by TruthHurts1(m): 9:44pm On Feb 17, 2016
MrPresident1:


God is the husband of Israel, in the Bible Israel is depicted as a woman. Now God leads Israel through Adam, Adam is the codename for the rulers of Israel, Eve is the code name for the masses of Israel (I am not talking about the fake jews of today but the ancient israelites), God's spirit was in Adam to provide spiritual leadership and guidance to the masses of Israel, in effect, Adam was God in this relationship. It was a marriage relationship wherein Adam the leaders were married to Eve the masses. Adam and Eve were commanded to bear children meaning go and teach other people the ways of God, both of you provide spiritual guidance and leadership to the masses of the world symbolically presented as be 'fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth'. Adam and Eve as one were supposed to be the husband of the world, but they fell.

Fake Jews? There are no fake Jews. Apart from the ones we have in Nigeria.
All Jews today are descendants of the two Southern Tribes of Benjamin and Judah who were left behind after the 10 tribes of the Northern Kingdom were led away into captivity by the Assyrians.
Jesus was of the tribe of Judah and Paul the Apostle was of the tribe of Benjamin. All people called Jews today trace their lineages to these sources.
Re: Woman, Your Husband Is Your God. by MrPresident1: 9:56pm On Feb 17, 2016
TruthHurts1:


Fake Jews? There are no fake Jews. Apart from the ones we have in Nigeria.
All Jews today are descendants of the two Southern Tribes of Benjamin and Judah who were left behind after the 10 tribes of the Northern Kingdom were led away into captivity by the Assyrians.
Jesus was of the tribe of Judah and Paul the Apostle was of the tribe of Benjamin. All people called Jews today trace their lineages to these sources.


Just so we are clear on this, who do you think are the original Jews, the Jews of the Bible?
Re: Woman, Your Husband Is Your God. by TruthHurts1(m): 10:00pm On Feb 17, 2016
MrPresident1:
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Just so we are clear on this, who do you think are the original Jews, the Jews of the Bible?

The Jews are the biological descendants of the three Patriarchs, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Specifically the 12 sons of the third patriarch, Jacob.
Re: Woman, Your Husband Is Your God. by MrPresident1: 10:17pm On Feb 17, 2016
TruthHurts1:


The Jews are the biological descendants of the three Patriarchs, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Specifically the 12 sons of the third patriarch, Jacob.
who are the Jews is my question to you? Who are they today?
Re: Woman, Your Husband Is Your God. by TruthHurts1(m): 10:26pm On Feb 17, 2016
MrPresident1:

who are the Jews is my question to you? Who are they today?

They are the remnants of tribes of Judah and Benjamin who were dispersed into the diaspora after the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans in the year 70 A.D.

They settled in Europe and parts of the Middle East and North Africa.

The Jews who stayed in the Middle East became known as Mizrahi Jews, while the ones who went to Europe became known as Ashkenazi Jews.

Today they are found mainly in Israel with significant populations in the United States and parts of Western and Eastern Europe.
Re: Woman, Your Husband Is Your God. by dabosuker(m): 10:29pm On Feb 17, 2016
Pyrrho:
[b]MrPresident1 only exposed the irrationality of following some primitive culture in our current societies.

It is obvious that the Bible promotes Jewish old cultural morals and the basis for adhering to them is "Yahweh the God of fore-father, Abraham, said so". Every other religion in the world also has moral teachings that conforms to the culture of its original race. Our African religious morals were deduced from our beliefs, and the "gods of our land" was the authoritative backing.

These are some of the reasons we can't adopt these old-fashioned cultures as standards for living our lives.

If you all(christians) are true to your beliefs, no girl or woman will be speaking on this matter... There were no women-prophet in the Bible, how could there be? No one would listen to a woman...
I know many of you are already warming-up to prove me wrong with Esther and the likes... We know they are not Prophets.

Women were not only instructed to submit, there were only but wives and concubines to men.

Paul also stated that they should not speak in the church. grin I don't blame him either, women can be a lot of trouble.

But for the sake of respect to our own intellect, let us agree that the Bible was fashioned to suit the culture in old jewish traditions, like every other religion in the world. Even the whites still maintained their culture after adopting Christianity. They had a culture of respecting the Lady of the house, and they were authoritative at that. Since the white introduced their own version of christianity to us, we can all see where our defence for women rights emanated from.

I'm sometimes accused of being too blunt. This is how I best present my position on issues like this. [/b]

Well said brother!

I dont know why people would not say it as it is undecided...Christianity or the Bible is against Gender Equality sad..quote me anywhere....what baffles me the most is the fact that persons would adopt an ancient compilation of the cultural guides of a distant group of people as the guide lines to living their lifes, ........even in 2016?

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Re: Woman, Your Husband Is Your God. by ChappyChase: 3:07pm On Feb 18, 2016
Ishilove:
Hyperbole
Which kin hyperbole? Abi e never reach one year?
Re: Woman, Your Husband Is Your God. by Ishilove: 9:44pm On Feb 18, 2016
ChappyChase:

Which kin hyperbole? Abi e never reach one year?
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Re: Woman, Your Husband Is Your God. by ChappyChase: 9:50pm On Feb 18, 2016
Ishilove:
Look down
Hahahahahahha, I think say the thing don reach one year ooo...
Re: Woman, Your Husband Is Your God. by Ishilove: 10:01pm On Feb 18, 2016
ChappyChase:

Hahahahahahha, I think say the thing don reach one year ooo...
Nna, di tin shock me when you said 'one year'
Re: Woman, Your Husband Is Your God. by ChappyChase: 10:10pm On Feb 18, 2016
Ishilove:
Nna, di tin shock me when you said 'one year'
But hope you got my drift?
Re: Woman, Your Husband Is Your God. by MrPresident1: 11:06pm On Feb 20, 2016
God is the husband of Israel, and the model of His marriage with Israel should be the model of marriage for everyone. I do believe that the reason many may have found it difficult to accept the premise of this thread is because of a lack of understanding of the real meaning of submission. A woman does not necessarily have to put in an effort to submit to her husband, it should come naturally, like it is her default setting, this is because a man who fears God is the ultimate blessing a woman will have, and like God's relationship with Israel, this submission will bring enormous blessings to the woman. When God married Israel, He brought enormous blessings to her, and as long as Israel obeyed and submitted to God, the blessings never stopped flowing. Wife, as long as you continue to submit to your husband, your blessings will never stop flowing, because you are obeying the commandments of the Most High God. And God loved His wife Israel so much, that He incarnated as man, and died for her so as to redeem her to Himself after she fell.

Isaiah 54:5
For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.

Deuteronomy 32:13-14
He made him ride on the high places of the earth, that he might eat the increase of the fields; and he made him to suck honey out of the rock, and oil out of the flinty rock;
14 Butter of kine, and milk of sheep, with fat of lambs, and rams of the breed of Bashan, and goats, with the fat of kidneys of wheat; and thou didst drink the pure blood of the grape.
Re: Woman, Your Husband Is Your God. by Nobody: 5:29pm On Feb 21, 2016
Princewell2012:


Hmmm how doe she manage to get into that relationship in the first place Husband direction is against God.

What are you suggesing
Become the head why the husband becomes the body

Ingage the husband in serious fight Just curious.

I dont think i understand you. My comment has a context; obeying the husband completely. I was asking 'president' if this means the wife obey the husband when his directions conflicts with God's.
Re: Woman, Your Husband Is Your God. by MrPresident1: 8:32pm On Feb 21, 2016
JMAN05:


Should they submit when there husband's direction is against God's?

Paul was addressing regenerated Christians in Ephesians, he was showing them the way to a happier and more fulfilling married life.

To the Christian wife he says submit to your husband as to the Lord:

Ephesians 5:22
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.


To the Christian Man he says love your wife as Christ loved His church and gave Himself for it, (be ready to die for her):

Ephesians 5:25
Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;


Now, what if either the husband or the wife is not a Christian?


1 Corinthians 7:12-15
But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.
13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.


Peter puts a kind of finality to this when he enjoins wives who are married to unbelieving husbands to be subject to them in such a way as to convince them eventually:

1 Peter 3:1-2
Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
2 While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear.
Re: Woman, Your Husband Is Your God. by MrPresident1: 9:06pm On Feb 21, 2016
Now there is a deeper perspective to all these husband and wife submission thingy, this is quite a difficult one but I guess if you are one of them by now you should know yourself wink, it is for people called virgins, God's virgins:

I mean virgins in the sense of those whom YAH Himself has separated unto Himself, I do not mean virgin in the sense of one who has never had sexual intercourse, I mean it in the sense of YAH's special 'set aparts'

Revelation 14:4
These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

1Corinthians 7:25
Now concerning virgins I have no commandment of the Lord: yet I give my judgment, as one that hath obtained mercy of the Lord to be faithful.
26 I suppose therefore that this is good for the present distress, I say, that it is good for a man so to be.
27 Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed. Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife.
28 But and if thou marry, thou hast not sinned; and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned. Nevertheless such shall have trouble in the flesh: but I spare you.


Paul encourages virgins to remain unmarried for the present distress, they will eventually marry because to forbid from marriage is satanic, God made us all in complements of male and female; male and female created He them, and the purpose for companionship and to be fruitful and to multiple. They will marry and bear beautiful children.

Now which present distress was Paul talking about? Paul was talking about now, because of the present times we are in, these are the perilous times that the Bible foretold about, Paul encourages virgins to be unmarried for the present distress.
Unfortunately, some virgins will marry, Paul foresees it, and he says such will have trouble in the flesh wink. Married virgins will have trouble in the flesh but this will end in a very short time.

The marriage supper of the lamb is the marriage of the virgins.

The marriage supper of the lamb will take place on the global scale between God and Israel, it will also take place in the microcosmic scale between a man and a woman.

Remember that Jesus Christ is 144,000 persons wink:

Revelation 14:1
And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.
Re: Woman, Your Husband Is Your God. by analice107: 9:30pm On Feb 21, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Does she sing praises to him all morning and pray to him before she sleeps at night ?
My dear. What got me the most is that, this dude says I have to give my offering to my husband and not to God. OK nah.

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Re: Woman, Your Husband Is Your God. by analice107: 9:33pm On Feb 21, 2016
MrPresident1:


The earth is billions of years old, yet the story of the Bible is dated to have begun about 6,000 years ago.

Adam is not the first human on earth, rather Adam is the first man to be created in the image and likeness of God, the breathe of God is the Spirit if God and the Spirit of God is the Word of God. When God gave the Word to Adam, it was allegorically presented as God breathing into man and man becoming a living soul. Any man without the knowledge of God is a beast.
Ahhhh. Mr President. Maybe you shd post some pictures of these other men, whom God created before Adam but in another form, other than the image of God.

Heresy. Shut me up again.
Re: Woman, Your Husband Is Your God. by analice107: 9:37pm On Feb 21, 2016
mcsnup:
now my suspicion is not misplaced. "knowing so much yet knowing nothing" a knowledge so empty yet proudly spirited.
A 1000th Gbam
Re: Woman, Your Husband Is Your God. by MrPresident1: 10:02pm On Feb 21, 2016
analice107:

Ahhhh. Mr President. Maybe you post some pictures of these other men, whom God created before Adam but in another form, other than the image of God.

Heresy. Shut me up again.

Sweery kiss let us reason this thing together wink

Shebi you remember that story of Nebuchadnezzars's dream and Daniel's interpretation, that story of a big tree that was cut down? Let us examine the figurative use of words like birds and beasts:

Daniel 4:20-23
20 The tree that thou sawest, which grew, and was strong, whose height reached unto the heaven, and the sight thereof to all the earth;
Whose leaves were fair, and the fruit thereof much, and in it was meat for all; under which the beasts of the field dwelt, and upon whose branches the fowls of the heaven had their habitation:
22 It is thou, O king, that art grown and become strong: for thy greatness is grown, and reacheth unto heaven, and thy dominion to the end of the earth.
23 And whereas the king saw a watcher and an holy one coming down from heaven, and saying, Hew the tree down, and destroy it; yet leave the stump of the roots thereof in the earth, even with a band of iron and brass, in the tender grass of the field; and let it be wet with the dew of heaven, and let his portion be with the beasts of the field, till seven times pass over him;


Nebu was the giant tree that filled the earth, providing shade and food to the birds of the air and the beasts of the field; He had dominion over them. See Nebu with dominion:

Daniel 4:22
It is thou, O king, that art grown and become strong: for thy greatness is grown, and reacheth unto heaven, and thy dominion to the end of the earth.


See Adam with dominion:

Genesis 1:25-28
And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.


Was Nebu's dominion over sheep and goats?
Nebu was king of Babylon, Babylon was the world power at that time, so the power was over poultry and fish abi?

analice107 come and hansa me na cheesy
Re: Woman, Your Husband Is Your God. by Nobody: 10:44pm On Feb 22, 2016
MrPresident1:


Paul was addressing regenerated Christians in Ephesians, he was showing them the way to a happier and more fulfilling married life.

To the Christian wife he says submit to your husband as to the Lord:

Ephesians 5:22
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.


To the Christian Man he says love your wife as Christ loved His church and gave Himself for it, (be ready to die for her):

Ephesians 5:25
Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;


Now, what if either the husband or the wife is not a Christian?


1 Corinthians 7:12-15
But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.
13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.


Peter puts a kind of finality to this when he enjoins wives who are married to unbelieving husbands to be subject to them in such a way as to convince them eventually:

1 Peter 3:1-2
Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
2 While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear.



Still wondering how that answers my question.
Re: Woman, Your Husband Is Your God. by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:43pm On Feb 23, 2016
analice107:

My dear. What got me the most is that, this dude says I have to give my offering to my husband and not to God. OK nah.

grin grin grin ... Lol .
Re: Woman, Your Husband Is Your God. by MrPresident1: 5:50pm On Feb 23, 2016
JMAN05:


Still wondering how that answers my question.

You are wondering how this answers your question? LMAO

Na U sabi wink
Re: Woman, Your Husband Is Your God. by MrPresident1: 6:04pm On Feb 23, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


grin grin grin ... Lol .

The relationship between Christ and His Church is the model relationship between a husband and a wife.

The Church gives her offerings to God through Her Christ.

Now, this are my words:

Woman, give those offerings to your husband, you are giving your offerings to God directly by giving it to your husband.

Woman, when you are in need of anything, when you are pursuing any goal, when you have obstacles blocking your path to a particular target, then make sacrifices to your husband and immediately see seemingly insurmountable mountain turn to meek valleys, this is the way God designed the world, this is why Sarah called Abraham her Lord; the world is differentiated into husbands aka the leaders and the wives aka the followers.


The very premise of this thread is that women should stop seeing God in their pastors, but rather in their husbands, a home where the pastor is the head over the wife is a dysfunctional home; the woman should give her offering to God through her husband and not through pastor.

And y'all should get your heads out of the clouds, the church is not any formalised place of worship, when two or three are gathered, 'there I AM in their midst' is the Word of God. So if a man and his wife are one person, then with just another person, you have a church, church is not only Oyedepo's 50,000 capacity auditorium.

What I am saying here is for the obedient wife who is ready to listen, who is ready to be blessed, it is not for every woman, if you find it incredulous, well no P grin wink. This act of submission is also a manner of chaste conversation for a woman who intends to win her husband for God.

1Peter 3:1
Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
2 While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear.

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Re: Woman, Your Husband Is Your God. by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:43pm On Feb 23, 2016
MrPresident1:


The relationship between Christ and His Church is the model relationship between a husband and a wife.

The Church gives her offerings to God through Her Christ.

Now, this are my words:

Woman, give those offerings to your husband, you are giving your offerings to God directly by giving it to your husband.

Woman, when you are in need of anything, when you are pursuing any goal, when you have obstacles blocking your path to a particular target, then make sacrifices to your husband and immediately see seemingly insurmountable mountain turn to meek valleys, this is the way God designed the world, this is why Sarah called Abraham her Lord; the world is differentiated into husbands aka the leaders and the wives aka the followers.


The very premise of this thread is that women should stop seeing God in their pastors, but rather in their husbands, a home where the pastor is the head over the wife is a dysfunctional home; the woman should give her offering to God through her husband and not through pastor.

And y'all should get your heads out of the clouds, the church is not any formalised place of worship, when two or three are gathered, 'there I AM in their midst' is the Word of God. So if a man and his wife are one person, then with just another person, you have a church, church is not only Oyedepo's 50,000 capacity auditorium.

What I am saying here is for the obedient wife who is ready to listen, who is ready to be blessed, it is not for every woman, if you find it incredulous, well no P grin wink. This act of submission is also a manner of chaste conversation for a woman who intends to win her husband for God.

1Peter 3:1
Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
2 While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear.



Good post bro . But I need to clear on this : When you talk of offerings , do you mean in monetary terms ?
Re: Woman, Your Husband Is Your God. by MrPresident1: 9:35pm On Feb 23, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Good post bro . But I need to clear on this : When you talk of offerings , do you mean in monetary terms ?
Well, in the context of non formalized worship, offerings could be anything to please God.
Re: Woman, Your Husband Is Your God. by MrPresident1: 10:21pm On Feb 26, 2016
God works through husbands to bless wives; God deals through husbands to get to the wives. We can enlarge this simple statement to say that God works through the husbands of this world (the leaders) to get to the wives (followers) of this world.

Buhari is the president (husband) of Nigeria, Nigerians are Buhari's wife.
Obama is the president (husband) of America, Americans are Obama's wife.

America is the husband of the world; all the countries of the world are wives of America; America leads and dictates and show the way: Dollar, Democracy, LGBT, Capitalism, Pentecostalism, Hollywood, etc., All countries must submit to America, or they must perish. God made her the leader.

It is very essential to get this simple concept because it opens the eyes to a deeper understanding of the Bible.

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