Re: Nigeria And Her First And Second Class Job Syndrome by AZeD1(m): 10:07am On Feb 12, 2016 |
Okijajuju1: Moral Lesson: Get a Third Class degree from a Nigerian University and fly to America and get a job. 8
Thanks OP, you have just changed my life.
*Oya, how much to apply for U.S Visa sef?* Can't 'Okija' help you enter the U.S without a visa? |
Re: Nigeria And Her First And Second Class Job Syndrome by Nobody: 10:07am On Feb 12, 2016 |
kroger: I graduated with the least of grades "PASS" from one of the federal universities, not because i was a numskull but because i did not join the band wagon of the "sorters". More so i was financially inept which resulted in missing some exams, but after 4 years the war was over. With my kind of grade the future was deem for me with no hope. I took some computer programming courses to add to my CV i thought it would be of help. Alas four years on no single interview, i was roaming the streets without hope
God finally answered my call and i travel to the united states for greener pastures, i enrolled for a six months IT course and after completion i received my first phone interview from one of the telecom company and later on skype interview. after three days i was called for a one on one interview at their corporate office. It was straight forward with three interviewers, they asked about my skills and what i could do , which i told them with great confidence. A system was brought in and i was asked to configure bla bla bla which i did. To my amazement none asked a question pertaining my degree what they where hammering on was on the job.
After completion i was given the job instantly to resume the following Monday with a well furnished office and a very good pay. Right Now i am the manager of my team of which i developed a standard software for the company that remains number one.
My point is why is Nigeria hell bent on class of degree rather what the individual has to offer.There are lots of talented 3rd class and pass job seekers out there if given a chance will perform far better. I think this is also one of the bane that is making the Nigerian economy a far cry, it hurts seeing the lower class graduates not given a chance. I weep for Nigeria. I recently sent my resume to one of the Nigerian job boards just to test if i will be contacted but no call as usual maybe because of my lower degree . Nigeria has a very long way to go, even the oyibos that taught us the system isn't even using it its just so annoying.
For all those with a lower degree believe in yourself, a paper should not define your worth but rather look inward and surely you will conquer.
Pardon my English and thanks for reading
thank God for your life. not many have that kind of opportunity. check my profile for one of the topics I wrote. am happy for you 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria And Her First And Second Class Job Syndrome by SaiBuharii: 10:08am On Feb 12, 2016 |
Samtobh: Nice write-up OP. Well, your assertion may not be so true about the class of degree discrimination. I've applied to more than 500 jobs online with a CV always restructured, well-furnished and updated. Ye, no single invite.I've even veered off my field into some areas I consider can boost one's chances but dear, the same issue keep coming up. To add up, I have a diploma in computer engineering, learnt HTML/JavaScript/CSS programming, HPLC/GC-MS/AAS analytical methods, and possess a first class degree. Feb.14th will make it 2 years I did my POP,still in my parent's House. So, my dear, God blessed you at the appointed time. If you posess a first class degree from a reputable University and you can't get a single test invite. I think you gave a problem u have to identify. I got 11 offers with good pays in 6mths after pop, no connection, no exceptional grade. Just being updated and smart. 5 Likes |
Re: Nigeria And Her First And Second Class Job Syndrome by Kjking(m): 10:09am On Feb 12, 2016 |
hmmm.... |
Re: Nigeria And Her First And Second Class Job Syndrome by RVBC: 10:09am On Feb 12, 2016 |
adenuga360: You are just lucky like Olajumoke the bread seller. If not for the fact you left the shores of Nigeria, you for know say kaaki no be leather. Happy for you man. How do you want to give back to Nairalander now that you are made?? a very good question! How do you want to give back to Nairalander now that you are made? |
Re: Nigeria And Her First And Second Class Job Syndrome by bjdon: 10:10am On Feb 12, 2016 |
Congratulations to the OP!!
I've seen quite a few similar cases. I've got a friend who did not even finish Uni in Nigeria, and today is a high earning software engineer in Europe.
The truth is the Nigerian economy is quite small, so employers can afford to be extra choosy.
I hope one day our economy expands to the point where third class/pass graduates can also find jobs were their talents are utilized. 3 Likes |
Re: Nigeria And Her First And Second Class Job Syndrome by Okijajuju1(m): 10:10am On Feb 12, 2016 |
AZeD1:
Can't 'Okija' help you enter the U.S without a visa? ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) |
Re: Nigeria And Her First And Second Class Job Syndrome by bigtt76(f): 10:11am On Feb 12, 2016 |
Sorry but what did you study? Samtobh: Nice write-up OP. Well, your assertion may not be so true about the class of degree discrimination. I've applied to more than 500 jobs online with a CV always restructured, well-furnished and updated. Ye, no single invite.I've even veered off my field into some areas I consider can boost one's chances but dear, the same issue keep coming up. To add up, I have a diploma in computer engineering, learnt HTML/JavaScript/CSS programming, HPLC/GC-MS/AAS analytical methods, and possess a first class degree. Feb.14th will make it 2 years I did my POP,still in my parent's House. So, my dear, God blessed you at the appointed time. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria And Her First And Second Class Job Syndrome by iswallker(m): 10:12am On Feb 12, 2016 |
pincture or idonbilivit......... ![smiley](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/smiley.png) 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria And Her First And Second Class Job Syndrome by luckynzo(m): 10:12am On Feb 12, 2016 |
Op. There's an element of luck in your case. You were lucky enough to travel to the US. There are thousands of unemployed youths out there who will never have that opportunity.
Right now, youths should look inward and identify what they can offer to their country. Develop it by getting professional training and the sky's the limit. 3 Likes |
Re: Nigeria And Her First And Second Class Job Syndrome by TruthHurts1(m): 10:12am On Feb 12, 2016 |
The only certificate that should be looked down on is a fake one. A real certificate always has value, no matter the grade for which it was awarded. 8 Likes |
Re: Nigeria And Her First And Second Class Job Syndrome by fako1(m): 10:13am On Feb 12, 2016 |
I went for a test/interview at ikeja after sending c.v and application via der official hr mail address, at the first stage the interviewer after going through my c.v wch was already with dem (dey printed it) kept asking how i scaled through. I kept mute. 2 weeks after got anoda invitation for stage 2. Met dz lady among the interviewers and she was like "you again". others asked her what happened and she was like "He's a product of a Polytechnic".
i blyv if i can pass your test written and oral and scale to anoda stage. I can deliver.......... habaaaaaa!!!
The annoying one is dressing. Is my dressing formal to work determine wat or how resourceful i will be to the company. most of dz ladies in some company will just dress wit empty brain. 6 Likes |
Re: Nigeria And Her First And Second Class Job Syndrome by Howmon: 10:13am On Feb 12, 2016 |
What course did you study pls. Samtobh: Nice write-up OP. Well, your assertion may not be so true about the class of degree discrimination. I've applied to more than 500 jobs online with a CV always restructured, well-furnished and updated. Ye, no single invite.I've even veered off my field into some areas I consider can boost one's chances but dear, the same issue keep coming up. To add up, I have a diploma in computer engineering, learnt HTML/JavaScript/CSS programming, HPLC/GC-MS/AAS analytical methods, and possess a first class degree. Feb.14th will make it 2 years I did my POP,still in my parent's House. So, my dear, God blessed you at the appointed time. |
Re: Nigeria And Her First And Second Class Job Syndrome by Mayflowa(m): 10:17am On Feb 12, 2016 |
kroger:
My talent would have been wasted like many others, yeah i am planning on starting up an IT company in Nigeria soonest and solely for talented nairalanders and not looking at degree. If you had talent plus zeal, you can never go to waste! Like you,many Nigerians with poor grade have also risen to the top of their careers and businesses. Just that the fraction is less as compared to the US. Clearly, there are scarce opportunities here as compared to US too. I am glad that you made it. However make best use of any opportunity and place you find yourself. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria And Her First And Second Class Job Syndrome by TruthHurts1(m): 10:18am On Feb 12, 2016 |
Samtobh: Nice write-up OP. Well, your assertion may not be so true about the class of degree discrimination. I've applied to more than 500 jobs online with a CV always restructured, well-furnished and updated. Ye, no single invite.I've even veered off my field into some areas I consider can boost one's chances but dear, the same issue keep coming up. To add up, I have a diploma in computer engineering, learnt HTML/JavaScript/CSS programming, HPLC/GC-MS/AAS analytical methods, and possess a first class degree. Feb.14th will make it 2 years I did my POP,still in my parent's House. So, my dear, God blessed you at the appointed time. If I ever start my tech company, which at the moment is still a dream, recruiting people like you will be my number one priority. But for the moment, have you tried sending your CV to the human resources department at Interswitch? I hear they are recruiting. P.S Too bad Valentine's Day is only a sad reminder for you ![sad](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/sad.png) 2 Likes |
Re: Nigeria And Her First And Second Class Job Syndrome by hotwax: 10:20am On Feb 12, 2016 |
Its unfortunate that certificates determines success in Nigeria unlike advanced economy.
They will tell you University is better than HND
2-1,22...2shiiits.
Yet we are slaves...we are not producing a common toothpick, thousands of masters degree holders...hundreds of professors.
We over-valued education.
Education is a formal education and should not be seen as success.
Chinese can't speak English, yet they are far better than Nigerians "English-educated slaves"
Now Nigerians are dominating in top universities in AMerica.
Do they respect Nigeria because of that? No. They still see us as inferior black that we are. Infact, they still see us as scammers 9 Likes |
Re: Nigeria And Her First And Second Class Job Syndrome by Nobody: 10:22am On Feb 12, 2016 |
LesbianBoy: Op that company needs to be probed by buhari. I mean, how can you that came out with PASS be enjoying benefits meant for those with a better result? Nonsense! ![lipsrsealed](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/lipsrsealed.png) Grace at work Bro! Buhari himself was thanking Obasanjo recently for making him Minister of Petroleum during his regime when it remained obvious he knew nothing about the Oil and Gas! Whether home or away, when its your turn to shine no demon can stop you. Hard work, consistency and God factor combined together, we will all make it 7 Likes |
Re: Nigeria And Her First And Second Class Job Syndrome by TruthHurts1(m): 10:25am On Feb 12, 2016 |
LesbianBoy: Op that company needs to be probed by buhari. I mean, how can you that came out with PASS be enjoying benefits meant for those with a better result? Nonsense! ![lipsrsealed](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/lipsrsealed.png) Who go fit take a "lesbian boy" seriously? |
Re: Nigeria And Her First And Second Class Job Syndrome by Omotaday(m): 10:25am On Feb 12, 2016 |
Samtobh: Nice write-up OP. Well, your assertion may not be so true about the class of degree discrimination. I've applied to more than 500 jobs online with a CV always restructured, well-furnished and updated. Ye, no single invite.I've even veered off my field into some areas I consider can boost one's chances but dear, the same issue keep coming up. To add up, I have a diploma in computer engineering, learnt HTML/JavaScript/CSS programming, HPLC/GC-MS/AAS analytical methods, and possess a first class degree. Feb.14th will make it 2 years I did my POP,still in my parent's House. So, my dear, God blessed you at the appointed time. ehya, God will bless you soon. i want to ask a a question out of the topic, im a mass communication student but i have the passion for all these programming stuff. do you think i can make it as a non science student? and how can i enroll for this tutor? or where? i would be glad if you can reply me. |
Re: Nigeria And Her First And Second Class Job Syndrome by juniorades: 10:25am On Feb 12, 2016 |
kroger: I graduated with the least of grades "PASS" from one of the federal universities, not because i was a numskull but because i did not join the band wagon of the "sorters". More so i was financially inept which resulted in missing some exams, but after 4 years the war was over. With my kind of grade the future was deem for me with no hope. I took some computer programming courses to add to my CV i thought it would be of help. Alas four years on no single interview, i was roaming the streets without hope
God finally answered my call and i travel to the united states for greener pastures, i enrolled for a six months IT course and after completion i received my first phone interview from one of the telecom company and later on skype interview. after three days i was called for a one on one interview at their corporate office. It was straight forward with three interviewers, they asked about my skills and what i could do , which i told them with great confidence. A system was brought in and i was asked to configure bla bla bla which i did. To my amazement none asked a question pertaining my degree what they where hammering on was on the job.
After completion i was given the job instantly to resume the following Monday with a well furnished office and a very good pay. Right Now i am the manager of my team of which i developed a standard software for the company that remains number one.
My point is why is Nigeria hell bent on class of degree rather what the individual has to offer.There are lots of talented 3rd class and pass job seekers out there if given a chance will perform far better. I think this is also one of the bane that is making the Nigerian economy a far cry, it hurts seeing the lower class graduates not given a chance. I weep for Nigeria. I recently sent my resume to one of the Nigerian job boards just to test if i will be contacted but no call as usual maybe because of my lower degree . Nigeria has a very long way to go, even the oyibos that taught us the system isn't even using it its just so annoying.
For all those with a lower degree believe in yourself, a paper should not define your worth but rather look inward and surely you will conquer.
Pardon my English and thanks for reading
I want to learn like u and manifest my potentials...how can I contact you sir |
Re: Nigeria And Her First And Second Class Job Syndrome by kaziblake(f): 10:25am On Feb 12, 2016 |
Samtobh: Nice write-up OP. Well, your assertion may not be so true about the class of degree discrimination. I've applied to more than 500 jobs online with a CV always restructured, well-furnished and updated. Ye, no single invite.I've even veered off my field into some areas I consider can boost one's chances but dear, the same issue keep coming up. To add up, I have a diploma in computer engineering, learnt HTML/JavaScript/CSS programming, HPLC/GC-MS/AAS analytical methods, and possess a first class degree. Feb.14th will make it 2 years I did my POP,still in my parent's House. So, my dear, God blessed you at the appointed time. Hmmm It's well. |
Re: Nigeria And Her First And Second Class Job Syndrome by witorwitoutyou(m): 10:27am On Feb 12, 2016 |
SaiBuharii:
If you posess a first class degree from a reputable University and you can't get a single test invite. I think you gave a problem u have to identify.
I got 11 offers with good pays in 6mths after pop, no connection, no exceptional grade. Just being updated and smart. Oga,Thank God for ur own,dont jugde odas base on what u av exp,Go far and u will c more worse cases Dere's. Dis close pal of myne who graduated from Unilag(chemical engineering with a CGPA of 4.76,1st class),searched for job,yet culdnt secure 1ne..durin d 2nd year of his search,he went for his Msc at one efunrun whatever(University major on petrol related course)i forgot d name....came out with 4.85,he finished last year december,making it 3rd year after his pop.Now we re in feb,he hasn't secure a job,so baba,na where u c u go talk reach.Thank God for ur own 9 Likes 1 Share |
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Re: Nigeria And Her First And Second Class Job Syndrome by Ephemmm: 10:28am On Feb 12, 2016 |
kroger: I graduated with the least of grades "PASS" from one of the federal universities, not because i was a numskull but because i did not join the band wagon of the "sorters". More so i was financially inept which resulted in missing some exams, but after 4 years the war was over. With my kind of grade the future was deem for me with no hope. I took some computer programming courses to add to my CV i thought it would be of help. Alas four years on no single interview, i was roaming the streets without hope
God finally answered my call and i travel to the united states for greener pastures, i enrolled for a six months IT course and after completion i received my first phone interview from one of the telecom company and later on skype interview. after three days i was called for a one on one interview at their corporate office. It was straight forward with three interviewers, they asked about my skills and what i could do , which i told them with great confidence. A system was brought in and i was asked to configure bla bla bla which i did. To my amazement none asked a question pertaining my degree what they where hammering on was on the job.
After completion i was given the job instantly to resume the following Monday with a well furnished office and a very good pay. Right Now i am the manager of my team of which i developed a standard software for the company that remains number one.
My point is why is Nigeria hell bent on class of degree rather what the individual has to offer.There are lots of talented 3rd class and pass job seekers out there if given a chance will perform far better. I think this is also one of the bane that is making the Nigerian economy a far cry, it hurts seeing the lower class graduates not given a chance. I weep for Nigeria. I recently sent my resume to one of the Nigerian job boards just to test if i will be contacted but no call as usual maybe because of my lower degree . Nigeria has a very long way to go, even the oyibos that taught us the system isn't even using it its just so annoying.
For all those with a lower degree believe in yourself, a paper should not define your worth but rather look inward and surely you will conquer.
Pardon my English and thanks for reading
Like I always say- Nigerians are used to 'certificate worshipping' instead of skills, knowledge and capability which a prospective candidate possesses. This is one of the advantages test has over interview: one can get a job without interview. Some private organizations in Nigeria are still relying on performance based on test and not all: I am one of living witnesses. Congratulations bros. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria And Her First And Second Class Job Syndrome by kroger: 10:28am On Feb 12, 2016 |
juniorades: I want to learn like u and manifest my potentials...how can I contact you sir Send me a PM. |
Re: Nigeria And Her First And Second Class Job Syndrome by Boyoorisha: 10:29am On Feb 12, 2016 |
Samtobh: Nice write-up OP. Well, your assertion may not be so true about the class of degree discrimination. I've applied to more than 500 jobs online with a CV always restructured, well-furnished and updated. Ye, no single invite.I've even veered off my field into some areas I consider can boost one's chances but dear, the same issue keep coming up. To add up, I have a diploma in computer engineering, learnt HTML/JavaScript/CSS programming, HPLC/GC-MS/AAS analytical methods, and possess a first class degree. Feb.14th will make it 2 years I did my POP,still in my parent's House. So, my dear, God blessed you at the appointed time. If you are willing to start small and confident about the skills mentioned above, you can get in touch with me on 07060402494 |
Re: Nigeria And Her First And Second Class Job Syndrome by banmee(m): 10:30am On Feb 12, 2016 |
mickells: Can you spot the differences in your story and a Nigerian with the same grade that does not have the opportunity to travel out? If you can, then you should know that not everybody is the same. Bros, the truth is, most people all over the world don't know how to apply for jobs, especially in Nigeria. It does not matter what degree you have. Employers, even in Nigeria, are mostly interested in what you can do. Just like the OP, i graduated with a pass. And to make it worse, i graduated with a HD degree. The difference between a HD and HND is that when you graduate, you will not be allowed to serve in the NYSC. I got a pass not because i was dull but i just was not interested in the way the academic system is set up in Nigeria. My first passion was football which i was extremely good at. I was actually called up twice to screen for the under 16 and 21, but alas i did not make it. Back in the day, if you played for Abuede/Osjack youth teams, you most likely would get a call up. Anyway, what made me stand out was my love for things that most Nigerians at the time were not interested in. The way people communicate with one another and languages. I also loved comic books, video games, movies, novels etc. Armed with all these tiny skills and experiences, i could hold a highly intellectual conversation with almost anyone. My first job after school was in a marketing firm. I do not have a marketing degree. The HR rep liked my vocabulary and the way i presented my arguments. We talked forever and mostly not about the job. I could tell he was at odds with the fact that i had a pass and did not have an NYSC certificate. They gave me a chance anyway and i've never looked back since. Part of my job was mainly to interact with high end potential clients, especially expatriates. In no time, i was already a supervisor and later a manager. I didn't realize it then, but employers don't really care that much about your degree. They care about you, your experiences and what you can bring to the table. Most people in Nigeria are as dull as a blunt knife. They cannot hold a conversation even if it is to save their lives. Have you ever had a conversation with a Nollywood addict? O'boy, it can be very exasperating. What am i even saying? Have you read some of the comments here on Nairaland? With a pass, i've worked with BAT Nigeria, NBC, Insight communications, etc Focusing on degrees is half the battle. Develop yourself and the sky is the limit. 20 Likes |
Re: Nigeria And Her First And Second Class Job Syndrome by Montaque(m): 10:30am On Feb 12, 2016 |
SaiBuharii: The reason you finished with a pass is not because you refused to sort, it's because of you refused to sit down attend classes and read.
We are not talking of 2.2 or 2.1 here, you got a pass man...which is the worst available..
*Just to correct that assertion. You should have known the uni he graduated from. Some uni are so messed up that intelligent people can't make it beyond 2.2 Lecturers. that tell u to write word for word what is in his note, those that give the limited A grade to their gf, those that victimize u when u ask difficult questions in class. Bro, I believe his story intoto 5 Likes |
Re: Nigeria And Her First And Second Class Job Syndrome by Nobody: 10:30am On Feb 12, 2016 |
Two questions sir 1)I'll appreciate if you throw more light on the kind of visa you used to undertake the course in the USA and if this happened recently 2) I'm aware that getting work or an H1-B visa sponsorship is quite difficult, how were you employed rapidly even with your immigration status? Thank you for sharing kroger: I graduated with the least of grades "PASS" from one of the federal universities, not because i was a numskull but because i did not join the band wagon of the "sorters". More so i was financially inept which resulted in missing some exams, but after 4 years the war was over. With my kind of grade the future was deem for me with no hope. I took some computer programming courses to add to my CV i thought it would be of help. Alas four years on no single interview, i was roaming the streets without hope
God finally answered my call and i travel to the united states for greener pastures, i enrolled for a six months IT course and after completion i received my first phone interview from one of the telecom company and later on skype interview. after three days i was called for a one on one interview at their corporate office. It was straight forward with three interviewers, they asked about my skills and what i could do , which i told them with great confidence. A system was brought in and i was asked to configure bla bla bla which i did. To my amazement none asked a question pertaining my degree what they where hammering on was on the job.
After completion i was given the job instantly to resume the following Monday with a well furnished office and a very good pay. Right Now i am the manager of my team of which i developed a standard software for the company that remains number one.
My point is why is Nigeria hell bent on class of degree rather what the individual has to offer.There are lots of talented 3rd class and pass job seekers out there if given a chance will perform far better. I think this is also one of the bane that is making the Nigerian economy a far cry, it hurts seeing the lower class graduates not given a chance. I weep for Nigeria. I recently sent my resume to one of the Nigerian job boards just to test if i will be contacted but no call as usual maybe because of my lower degree . Nigeria has a very long way to go, even the oyibos that taught us the system isn't even using it its just so annoying.
For all those with a lower degree believe in yourself, a paper should not define your worth but rather look inward and surely you will conquer.
Pardon my English and thanks for reading
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Re: Nigeria And Her First And Second Class Job Syndrome by TenPassfour(m): 10:31am On Feb 12, 2016 |
Samtobh: Nice write-up OP. Well, your assertion may not be so true about the class of degree discrimination. I've applied to more than 500 jobs online with a CV always restructured, well-furnished and updated. Ye, no single invite.I've even veered off my field into some areas I consider can boost one's chances but dear, the same issue keep coming up. To add up, I have a diploma in computer engineering, learnt HTML/JavaScript/CSS programming, HPLC/GC-MS/AAS analytical methods, and possess a first class degree. Feb.14th will make it 2 years I did my POP,still in my parent's House. So, my dear, God blessed you at the appointed time. send me a DM with your course of study and Telephone number. Will forward it to someone I knew and by God Grace you will definitely get a reply. Also put God first for divine favour. Regards 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nigeria And Her First And Second Class Job Syndrome by Aremu01(m): 10:34am On Feb 12, 2016 |
I hope those corky hr will see thiu |
Re: Nigeria And Her First And Second Class Job Syndrome by Tellemall: 10:36am On Feb 12, 2016 |
bayulll01: I once listen to an interview aired on @channelstv sometimes last year where they interviews a professor from oau,the man keeps complaining about the curriculum system we practiced here in Nigeria,how is not working for us,how we can developed our own system that suits us.I once had a lecturer in the university that teaches seprations process in chemical engineer oh gwash I weep for this generations,the man uses and obsolete text book used in the 1970s when he was a student and uses it to teach me in 2011,I gave up.
my advice to Nigerian student if you have a way of improving yourselves do so,better jet out of this country come back and dominate Separation processes is always taught with an old out-of date, no-longer-in-the-market-except-your-senior-colleagues book. Disgusting. And I can bet you the author of the book is that obsolete professor/doctor who is lecturing. |