oglalasioux:


It's only religious bigots that rush to insult whenever someone has a different view from them. You live in a world of New World Order. You use it's technology in 98% of your life yet you term it satanic.

To prove your love for your god and your religion stop using things produced by the New World Order. Why don't you even commit suicide so you'll not be in the world to be corrupted by the satanic New World Order.

Christianity and Islam should be fought to a halt because they are fake, anti human and anti progress. You can go jump into a lake for all I care.

blueAgent:



And who told you the technology and knowledge is from satan. The earth and its fullness belongs to God including whatever knowledge they cliam to have. and secondly you believe NWO exist and still don't believe in God. for your information those satanist do not give a Bleep about U and ur kind. U are just a tool to acheive their purpose.
without God oil will not exist,their will not be any silicon for Micro processers. hence no facebook,Nairaland. and so on.

CoolUsername:


But this oil comes from the buried and hyper-pressurized remains of dead plants and animals which died at a time so long ago that it disproves the biblical creation timeline.

blueAgent:


I Laugh.. so what made those living things in the first place that later died and formed oil.

definitely it must be a living thing. becos only a Livingthing can create or make something . or u believe stones now make humans how illogical that will be.

secondly no process can ever start on its on. it must be intiated weather a chemical reaction,or motion, or gravity. whatever an object require a force to move it. and the force requires another force to move it.and so on.

CoolUsername:


Now you see, your argument may prove a deistic god, a first cause to be precise. Scientists don't know what happened before 10^-43 seconds (?) after the Big Bang, so it's theoretically plausible for some sort of driving force to exist (though I highly doubt it). Your argument can't be proven or disproven reasonably at the moment.

But what can easily be disproven are the scientific models that are extrapolated from creation myths.

blueAgent:

Lol..bros atheism is the closest thing to Autism . they are just illogical beings

blueAgent:


You lack facts to support your argument. my question to you is the basis for any argument.

big bang can not just occur it must have been intiated by something.

CoolUsername:


What argument are you asking for facts about?

I'm just asking you to pick your side of the argument, are you arguing about god or the Christian God?

blueAgent:




Christain God.

blueAgent:


Over 100000000000000000000000000000000000% perfect.

blueAgent:



Let any
reasonable mind contemplate the alternatives for
a moment. Doesn't it take more faith to believe
that chance could produce life than it does to
believe infinite intelligence could produce it?

blueAgent:




Spontaneous Generation
How does the evolutionist explain the existence
of that first one-celled animal from which all life
forms supposedly evolved? For many years the
medieval idea of spontaneous generation was the
accepted explanation. According to Webster,
spontaneous generation is "the generation of
living from nonliving matter … [it is taken] from
the belief, now abandoned, that organisms found
in putrid organic matter arose spontaneously
from it."
Simply stated, this means that under the proper
conditions of temperature, time, place, etc.,
decaying matter simply turns into organic life.
This simplistic idea dominated scientific thinking
until 1846, when Louis Pasteur completely
shattered the theory by his experiments. He
exposed the whole concept as utter foolishness.
Under controlled laboratory conditions, in a
semi-vacuum, no organic life ever emerged from
decaying, nonliving matter. Reluctantly it was
abandoned as a valid scientific issue. Today no
reputable scientist tries to defend it on a
demonstrable basis. That is why Webster says it
is "now abandoned." It never has been and never
can be demonstrated in the test tube. No present
process is observed that could support the idea
of spontaneous generation. Obviously, if
spontaneous generation actually did take place in
the distant past to produce the first spark of life,
it must be assumed that the laws that govern life
had to be completely different from what they are
now. But wait a minute! This won't work either,
because the whole evolutionary theory rests upon
the assumption that conditions on the earth have
remained uniform throughout the ages.
Do you begin to see the dilemma of the
evolutionists in explaining that first amoeba, or
monad, or whatever formed the first cell of life? If
it sprang up spontaneously from no previous life,
it contradicts a basic law of nature that forms the
foundation of the entire theory. Yet, without
believing in spontane¬ous generation, the
evolutionist would have to acknowledge
something other than natural forces at work—in
other words, God. How do they get around this
dilemma?
Dr. George Wald, Nobel Prize winner of Harvard
University, states it as cryptically and honestly as
an evolutionist can:
"One has only to contemplate the magnitude
of this task to concede that the spontaneous
generation of a living organism is
impossible. Yet here we are—as a result, I
believe, of spontaneous generation."
Scientific American, August 1954.
That statement by Dr. Wald demonstrates a much
greater faith than a religious creationist can
muster. Notice that the great evolutionary
scientist says it could not have happened. It was
impossible. Yet he believes it did happen. What
can we say to that kind of faith? At least the
creationist believes that God was able to speak
life into existence. His is not a blind faith in
something that he concedes to be impossible.
So here we are, face to face with the first
contradiction of evolution with a basic law of
science. In order to sustain his humanistic
explanation of the origin of life, he must accept
the exploded, unscientific theory of spontaneous
generation. And the big question is this: Why is
he so violently opposed to the spontaneous
generation spoken of in the Bible? A miracle of

blueAgent:


U are a proper fool. If men with power could do all this evil in this world without been questioned by U. how much more God Almighty who made U without requesting for ur opinion. secondly what lie did God Lie.?
so if governments can fight wars and kill. so God who owns everything including humans can not kill when he pleases. faith is only a demonstration of your alligenance to GOD . the bible says faith without Works is dead. you cannot say you have faith and still disobey God's moral laws. their are laws and they require faith in GOD for you to live properly by that law.

blueAgent:


Lies. their are people serving GOD faithfully stop decieving Yourself.

Ramon92:
.. Cos she knows that hell is a figment of man's imagination, meant as a mind control tool to control the weak and gullible...

#ImAlsoProudImGoingToHell

seggzz:

First of all, you just call somebody a fool. He that call his brother a fool shall be roasted in hell fire, do you know this is in your Bible? Check Matthew 5: 22.

Evil men are always questioned and judge by an incorruptible governments. Even president Buhari questioned Dasuki's arms deals. Your God allow it also.

What can you say about the book of 1kings 22:21-22? In these verses, God put lying tongues or spirits in the mouth of his prophets. Must He tells them to lie before He can prove something?

seggzz:

Are you saying it's only your Bible God who created lives? What of Allah, Sango, Jehovah and others? Did Jehovah God created only Isreal? Did Allah created only Arab? What made you think that the God that created lives is your Bible God? Can you prove that to me?

seggzz:

Are you saying it's only your Bible God who created lives? What of Allah, Sango, Jehovah and others? Did Jehovah God created only Isreal? Did Allah created only Arab? What made you think that the God that created lives is your Bible God? Can you prove that to me?

blueAgent:



Don't confuse yourself. Jehovah is the same being as God. God is the only creator o of all things and lives both arabs,blacks,white.asians. people call him different names in their language.
yes the bible is God's inspired word. and only the bible has ever explianed human existence and creation of this earth and its end. God knows the end from the begining.
go and check history books all the prophices have been fullifilled and confirmed by historians and archologists.eg.
in the book of Isaiah 20New International Version (NIV)
A Prophecy Against Egypt and Cush
20 In the year that the supreme commander, sent
by Sargon king of Assyria, came to Ashdod and
attacked and captured it— 2 at that time the Lord
spoke through Isaiah son of Amoz. He said to
him, “Take off the sackcloth from your body and
the sandals from your feet.” And he did so, going
around stripped and barefoot.
3 Then the Lord said, “Just as my servant Isaiah
has gone stripped and barefoot for three years, as
a sign and portent against Egypt and Cush,[ a] 4 so
the king of Assyria will lead away stripped and
barefoot the Egyptian captives and Cushite exiles,
young and old, with buttocks bared—to Egypt’s
shame. 5 Those who trusted in Cush and boasted
in Egypt will be dismayed and put to shame. 6 In
that day the people who live on this coast will
say, ‘See what has happened to those we relied
on, those we fled to for help and deliverance
from the king of Assyria! How then can we
escape?’”
Footnotes:
a. Isaiah 20:3 That is, the upper Nile region;
also in verse 5
New International Version (NIV)
did it happen yes. and confirmed by historians. Egypt was invaded by the Assyrians and many more.

seggzz:

Really? I got hundreds of contradictions found in your Holy Bible? Why will your God purposely put confusion in the mind of his followers. Check out some things that probably make HIM perfect as you said.

(1). There's contradiction on the number of men chief of David's captain killed.
A. 2 Samuel 23:8 wrote 800 men were killed by him
B. 1 chronicles 11:11 wrote 300 men were killed.

(2). The Bible made us know that we should not kill. God Himself killed, check the story of flood and Noah, story of ten plagues, etc

(3) God said you should not lie? Check about the woman that hid the Isreal spies, check the story of the lying prophets, check how the Egyptian midwives were rewarded for lying and many more.

You can keep me loading...... If you want.

seggzz:

Really? I got hundreds of contradictions found in your Holy Bible? Why will your God purposely put confusion in the mind of his followers. Check out some things that probably make HIM perfect as you said.

(1). There's contradiction on the number of men chief of David's captain killed.
A. 2 Samuel 23:8 wrote 800 men were killed by him
B. 1 chronicles 11:11 wrote 300 men were killed.

(2). The Bible made us know that we should not kill. God Himself killed, check the story of flood and Noah, story of ten plagues, etc

(3) God said you should not lie? Check about the woman that hid the Isreal spies, check the story of the lying prophets, check how the Egyptian midwives were rewarded for lying and many more.

You can keep me loading...... If you want.

blueAgent:


While their zeal is appreciated and
applauded, it is misguided. Morality by its
very nature allows for exemptions in certain
circumstances; and this occurs not because
God’s law lacks universal validity, but because
God’s law accounts for conflicts of moral
goods—that is, moral dilemmas. Moral
dilemmas occur whenever there are, in God’s
providence, decisions whose alternatives all
have moral reasons opposing them to some
extent. 2 For instance, imagine a dreadful
situation where a killer has taken a mother’s
two sons; the criminal then tells the mother
at gunpoint that she must choose to save
only one of her two sons or else lose them
both, and the mother, unfortunately, is
entirely unable to fight back. The mother
therefore has the very difficult decision of
choosing one (or both) of her own sons to
die. Such a situation would be a moral
dilemma, for moral reasons resist all three of
the options (choosing the first son, choosing
the second son, and choosing neither) but
one of them must be selected. Choosing a
child to die is grievously wrong in ordinary
circumstances, but it might be permitted in
these very dire circumstances. 3
To use a better and less ghastly example of
a moral dilemma, consider the Hebrew
midwives who lied to Pharaoh in order to
save their own people’s babies (Exodus
1:15-20). Lying is ordinarily sinful—there is a
strong moral presumption forbidding
deception—but here is a circumstance where
moral reasons even more strongly forbade
truth-telling, since it would have led to the
babies’ (and their own) deaths. Lying is an
act which would be wrong in normal
circumstances, but here it is permitted due to
overriding moral concerns. Additionally,
consider the practice of divorce. Many
Christians hold that divorce is permissible
only in cases of adultery and abandonment.
According to them, divorce is ordinarily wrong
—something that God hates (Mal. 2:16)—but
it is permitted by these rarer and overriding
moral reasons. (Even then, there are more
complicated moral concerns to take into
account, since it can also be better for
couples to reconcile even after adultery or
abandonment has occurred.) While Christians
might not all apply the language of intrinsic
immorality to divorce, they would still
certainly refer to lying (and selecting a child
to die) as intrinsically immoral. Nonetheless,
without denying these acts’ intrinsic
immorality, one can posit exceedingly rare
circumstances which morally legitimize
instances of these intrinsically immoral acts.
This is not a contradiction of the idea that
some acts are inherently wrong; it is just a
clarification of the idea of an act’s being
inherently wrong. Similarly, this is not an
idea that God’s law contradicts itself; it is
just an affirmation that God’s law accounts
for all the complexities and interrelations of
competing moral goods in all possible
circumstances. The possibility of moral
dilemmas does not entail that we must
sometimes choose between sin and sin—
which is awful and blasphemous to suggest,
for God could never force us to sin—but it
does mean that our moral choices sometimes
will be very difficult and strenuous.

CoolUsername:


Then why are you talking about the Big Bang? Don't you believe that God magicked everything into existence in 6 days?

Leave the scientific theories to me.

seggzz:

Morality or your Bible God allow exemption? Lol... "Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons" - Acts:10:34 This is just another contradiction. That shows your God is a partial God. He will roast other people in hell fire for lying while he allow other people to lie. He himself lies!!!

Sin is sin, whether you lied to defend yourself or otherwise it's still sin. Why did he put his law without stating its exemptions? At least humans laws still have a stated exemption.

blueAgent:


i will read the one of david and respond . but for now Look God is not equal to you or answerable to you. eg if i make robot i have the right to program the robot the way i like. and can also destory it any time or how i want.
same with God. God is not running a deomocracy. if it was so he could have requested for your permission before bringing you into this world.

Isaiah 46:10
New International Version
I make known the end from the beginning, from
ancient times, what is still to come. I say, 'My
purpose will stand, and I will do all that I
please.'

God can kill becos he has the moral right but man can not becos he cannot create human being. Eziekel 18:4
King James Bible
Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the
father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the
soul that sinneth, it shall die.
God is our maker . the same way a government has authority to punishe offenders. so has God .even more authority becos he is our sole maker.

blueAgent:


Why not? how long does it take humans to build things. how much more God. so you believe that big bang can create things in orderly manner the way it is in this world ?

seggzz:

Your God kills because he has a moral right to do so? What an absurdity!!!
Your God can lie because he has the moral right to lie?
Your God can enslave because he has the right to do so?
Your God do all kinds of sin because he has the moral right? WHAT IS THE ESSENCE OF MORALITY?

He is not qualify to be a god!!! He committed all kinds of sin yet you say he is a perfect God? Your Bible God is not worth to punish people for their sin. Isn't wickedness to punish people for the sin you yourself do commit? If your God created humans therefore there is another God that created that your God. So you mean your father has the moral right to kill you because they gave birth to you?

blueAgent:


Your problem is not the bible. but your IQ. is lie the only seen that takes people to hell?
secondly those examples i gave was any of the lie made to destory or kill or deiecve a person .rather they were made to save lives which are morally acceptable considering that the people to be saved were innocent.
you cannot lie against an innocent person and expect to go unpunished.
For peter's comment God is not a respecter of any person. meaning if a rich man commits a sin with a poor man . God will punish them equally without giving preference not pardoning one person or the other.
even David the man after God's heart was punished by God for killing and stealing another man's wife. his kingdom was almost divided. his own son almost killed him becos of God's judgement against David.
so you see try and reason before you just comment. so show me were in bible that God lied.

CoolUsername:


How is the world orderly? It's a chaotic system, any little thing we do is a problem. For example, our planet gradually loses hydrogen and helium from the atmosphere because their speeds in gaseous form are faster than our escape velocity. Do you know what will happen if we run of hydrogen?

seggzz:

Please can you tell me the definition of lie?

"Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee"-1 Kings:22:23. For example, your parents told you to lie that there were not inside the room? How many people lied in this case? Who masterminds the lie?