| Re: The Great Challenge For Christians by promisechuks: 7:49am On Feb 16, 2016 |
vzkpswaqnkhgytd:
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The Bible degrades the Prophets of God by vilification:
For a Muslim, many of the claims to be found in the Bible with regard to the prophets of God, and even God himself, are monstrous and preposterous. One is hard pressed to find a single prophet or messenger who was not a drunkard, an idolater, an adulterer, guilty of incest, a liar, and so forth.
The Bible practically overflows with such stories from almost every Tom, Dick, and Harry. The messengers of God are even made to be guilty of multiple cases of adultery and worse. Abraham (pbuh) is alleged to be a liar and worse (Genesis 12:13). Noah (pbuh) a drunkard (Genesis 9:21). Lot (pbuh) a drunkard and guilty of incest (Genesis 19:30-38). Solomon (pbuh) a worshipper of idols in his old age (1 Kings 4-9), King David (pbuh) commits adultery with Uriah's wife and then murdered her husband (2 Samuel 11:3-4,15-18), David's son Ammon is guilty of incest and the rape of his half sister (2 Samuel 13:14). Aaron (pbuh) fashions an idol (the golden calf) for the Jews to worship (Exodus 32:1-4), to name but a very few of the many allegations to be found in the current Bible Why do you always rush to the OT that has declare abolished because of it's imperfection, to justify the act of the worst prophet ever. C'mon pick from NT and defend yourself. |
| Re: The Great Challenge For Christians by vzkpswaqnkhgytd: 7:50am On Feb 16, 2016 |
promisechuks:
Why do you always rush to the OT that has declare abolished because of it's imperfection, to justify the act of the worst prophet ever.
C'mon pick from NT and defend yourself. So you agree Muhammad pbuh is a prophet. |
| Re: The Great Challenge For Christians by vzkpswaqnkhgytd: 7:58am On Feb 16, 2016 |
Back on topic will you drink poison or admit NT corruption? |
| Re: The Great Challenge For Christians by Scholar8200(m): 8:06am On Feb 16, 2016 |
nasiayam:
The oldest copies of the Gospel of Mark, the Sinaitic and Vatican, end at Mark 16:8. A note in the New International Version of the Bible states: "The most reliable early manuscripts and other ancient witnesses do not have Mark 16:9-20." Verses 9 to 20 appear to have been added later by an unknown Christian forger. The addition was quoted in the writings of Irenaeus and Hippolytus in the [size=13pt]second or third century.[/size]
DO CHRISTIANS AGREE IT'S A FORGERY? They are not the oldest! The Wikipedia pegs the date of the writing of Sinaiticus in between 330-360 AD meaning there was an older one that Irenaeus quoted from and that one had the verses 9-20! The real forgery are your dears - the Sinaitic and Vatican! Product of gnostic tampering! |
| Re: The Great Challenge For Christians by promisechuks: 8:32am On Feb 16, 2016 |
analice107:
My dear, Satan has been using this trick of 'If you are, then do this'. We don't do Satan's bidding. Never.
I for once saw a miracle. Thank God it was a Muslim cripple. An Huasa Muslim cripple seating on a burress board, his legs whidererd from birth.
Christ Embassy's Total Experience. It wasn't in the night, it happened in the morning, so I wasn't mistaken. It happened just by me. Far away from where the man of God was standing. He was not even praying when it happened, he was singing. And the power of the Holy Spirit came upon that man, and he began to shake. On the floor, seating on his plywood Burress. He started struggling to get up. People gathered around him, the workers close by refused for anyone to help him up. He struggled and stood up on those tiny shrunken legs that had never stood before. He wobbled until he got to the pulpit, and testified what had happened to him.
An Huasa Muslim man received healing from Christ, free. But Muhammed is out to kill all Christians.
You calling up this stupidity is still Satan in his old trick, but we know him.
That is an evidence to show you that jesus doesn't care about your religion, because he didn't come to give us books or religion, but to give us what we are enjoying now that NO LAW can provide for us. He came to save everybody(muslims, christians, atheist, buddha and the whole world- past, present and future) from the tricks of the devil. Even, there was a crusade held by benny hinn, a hindu girl was radically healed. And the girl asked pastor benny,"I am an hindu, why did jesus heal me?" And benny hinn answered her "it is just because Jesus loves everybody, no matter your religion". From there, the girl converted. |
| Re: The Great Challenge For Christians by promisechuks: 8:39am On Feb 16, 2016 |
vzkpswaqnkhgytd:
- satan makes you reject the last Messenger as satan made others before reject Prophets of the past. This is nothing new. You even capitalize satans name. He got to you. See, I calling that man a prophet, I see it as an insult to other prophet. Because, his past life he lived were so corrupt to be labelled a prophet. Jesus made it clear that after him false prophets shall come because he has done everything that can give man salvation, no other prophet is needed. How can I take mohammed who is a radical sinner when compared to me, let alone Jesus, as a prophet. Am I mad? Where Jesus in whom I believed in was SINLESS. Please only brainwashed and daft people will believe mohammed. 1 Like |
| Re: The Great Challenge For Christians by promisechuks: 8:45am On Feb 16, 2016 |
vzkpswaqnkhgytd:
All biblical versions of the Bible prior to the revised version of 1881 were dependent upon the "Ancient copies" (those dated at about five to six hundred years after Jesus). The revisers of the Revised Standard Version (RSV) 1952 were the first biblical scholars to have access to the "Most ancient copies" which date roughly four hundred years after Christ. It is only logical for us to concur that the closer a document is to the source the more authentic it is. Upon discovering these "most" ancient copies of the Bible, what did the scholars of the Bible learn about their "King James Version" (KJV) of the Bible? In the preface of the RSV 1971 we find the following:
"...Yet the King James Version has GRAVE DEFECTS.."
They go on to caution us that:
"...That these defects are SO MANY AND SO SERIOUS as to call for revision"
The New Revised Standard Version of the Bible by Oxford Press has the following to say in its preface:
"Yet the King James Version has serious defects. By the middle of the nineteenth century, the development of biblical studies and the discovery of many biblical manuscripts more ancient than those on which the King James Version was based made it apparent that these defects were so many as to call for revision." Please am tired with all this your version this and that, while it has been clear and clearer to you that ALL bible version are talking about the same thing, no addition, no subtraction. But the only way, it can differ is the vocabulary used which must be meaning the same thing in all bibles, no matter the version, just for EASY understanding. The meaning is never altered. 1 Like |
| Re: The Great Challenge For Christians by Newnas(m): 10:11am On Feb 16, 2016 |
promisechuks:
Why are you confused?
God himself made an incarnate son of himself in the person of Jesus.
Okay.
Then your god was killed and crucified dead by some bandits!!!
If he was himself god, who was he calling to on the cross eloi eloi?!!
Exalted be Allah above the lies of the Christians! |
| Re: The Great Challenge For Christians by promisechuks: 11:51am On Feb 16, 2016 |
vzkpswaqnkhgytd:
So you agree Muhammad pbuh is a prophet. Mohammed is your islamic self acclaimed prophet. Bear in mind, not all persons who call themselves prophet are really prophets from God. |
| Re: The Great Challenge For Christians by promisechuks: 12:17pm On Feb 16, 2016 |
Newnas:
Okay.
Then your god was killed and crucified dead by some bandits!!!
If he was himself god, who was he calling to on the cross eloi eloi?!!
Exalted be Allah above the lies of the Christians! Who many times have I explained this to you? God(yaweeh as father) made himself a man by creating an incarnate son of himself(jesus as son), and when jesus was about to ascend he promised to send the SPIRIT OF TRUTH(which is still God) which is the HOLYSPIRIT, that shall comfort, teach us and let us know all things. Of which after the ascension of Jesus, after like 3 days of ascension, as jesus' apostles were at the upper room praying as Jesus has ordered them, immediately, the spirit of God that was promised by Jesus, fell upon them and they started to speaking in many tongues, that is where speaking in many tongues started. So you have forgotten that jesus was 100%humanity and 100%divinity? In all character of Jesus you have to view him in two perspective as I said before. In divinity and humanity. He suffered at the cross and said everything he said, as human being and not as the God he is. So when he prayed at the cross he was talking to the father, as the human being he is. Let me give you one instance of his divinity; 1. Name 1 person you know apart from Jesus that resurrected from the dead without any helper, I mean, who resurrected on his own? No man can defeat death, but he defeated it. This is to show you his DIVINITY. There are a lot more of his divinity. |
| Re: The Great Challenge For Christians by Newnas(m): 12:36pm On Feb 16, 2016 |
I know you won't call Abraham a prophet because he was a pure monotheist and not a misguided mortal-worshipper like you all.
As far as y'all are concerned, a prophet is the one who good at predicting the future!!! |
| Re: The Great Challenge For Christians by Newnas(m): 12:40pm On Feb 16, 2016 |
promisechuks:
Who many times have I explained this to you?
God(yaweeh as father) made himself a man by creating an incarnate son of himself(jesus as son), and when jesus was about to ascend he promised to send the SPIRIT OF TRUTH(which is still God) which is the HOLYSPIRIT, that shall comfort, teach us and let us know all things.
Of which after the ascension of Jesus, after like 3 days of ascension, as jesus' apostles were at the upper room praying as Jesus has ordered them, immediately, the spirit of God that was promised by Jesus, fell upon them and they started to speaking in many tongues, that is where speaking in many tongues started.
So you have forgotten that jesus was 100%humanity and 100%divinity?
In all character of Jesus you have to view him in two perspective as I said before. In divinity and humanity.
He suffered at the cross and said everything he said, as human being and not as the God he is. So when he prayed at the cross he was talking to the father, as the human being he is.
Let me give you one instance of his divinity;
1. Name 1 person you know apart from Jesus that resurrected from the dead without any helper, I mean, who resurrected on his own?
No man can defeat death, but he defeated it. This is to show you his DIVINITY.
There are a lot more of his divinity. please speak a language people can understand!!! all you have said makes no sense, just like mumbled poetry!!! |
| Re: The Great Challenge For Christians by Newnas(m): 12:54pm On Feb 16, 2016 |
promisechuks:
Who many times have I explained this to you?
God(yaweeh as father) made himself a man by creating an incarnate son of himself(jesus as son), and when jesus was about to ascend he promised to send the SPIRIT OF TRUTH(which is still God) which is the HOLYSPIRIT, that shall comfort, teach us and let us know all things.
Of which after the ascension of Jesus, after like 3 days of ascension, as jesus' apostles were at the upper room praying as Jesus has ordered them, immediately, the spirit of God that was promised by Jesus, fell upon them and they started to speaking in many tongues, that is where speaking in many tongues started.
So you have forgotten that jesus was 100%humanity and 100%divinity?
In all character of Jesus you have to view him in two perspective as I said before. In divinity and humanity.
He suffered at the cross and said everything he said, as human being and not as the God he is. So when he prayed at the cross he was talking to the father, as the human being he is.
Let me give you one instance of his divinity;
1. Name 1 person you know apart from Jesus that resurrected from the dead without any helper, I mean, who resurrected on his own?
No man can defeat death, but he defeated it. This is to show you his DIVINITY.
There are a lot more of his divinity. He is God but still created himself as God in another person on earth. So he is father and the same time son. see contradiction!!! So your God was relegated to human form, sounds like the Hercules of Greek mythology. Then he is 100percent human and man. Another crap that will be believed by only a dumb lad. So in short he was still human. You said he died and conquered death. Death already defeated your god the day he died. So it doesn't matter whether he resurrected or not. Once you are beaten you are already beaten even if you take a million revenge. |
| Re: The Great Challenge For Christians by Newnas(m): 1:01pm On Feb 16, 2016 |
promisechuks:
God knew it, but he had to do it for the love he has for you.
God knew that it will only take his death as a man on the cross to liberate us that's why he came as a man(humanity) and as a son to him(divinity) in the person named Jesus.
Though, you saw it as an insult as any person who has not met with the power that resurrected jesus from the dead would see it.
God had no other option than to do it that way for the "who he is" My Allah does not need to be beaten by some thugs and stripped down to the pants then crucified among criminals before He can forgive my sins and yours! Ponder on this OH SON OF ADAM, EVEN IF YOUR SINS REACHED THE HEAVENS AND YOU SEEK MY FORGIVENESS WITHOUT ASSOCIATING PARTNERS WITH ME, I WILL FORGIVE YOU ALL OF IT AND WON'T MIND. |
| Re: The Great Challenge For Christians by afoobabs(m): 9:16pm On Feb 16, 2016 |
promisechuks:
God is not a man, but to carry out his purpose for man, he needed to make of himself an incarnate son of himself in the likeness of man, and the man was named jesus.
Eye-opening questions;
To do what for them?
Why were they lost?
Did jesus later recovered them?
How did he recovered them? See the way u ar talking with confidence like u av physically discuss this with GOD. I dont know what happen to old testerment God that is very cruel and do nt hesitate to distroyed earth and the ppl in it bcus they sined(GOD of NOAH) hw did he now turn the gentle in the new testament that he nw had to come down suffer every sort of humiliationin the hand of his creation, run from coast to coast to evade his own creation and he cried profusely that he doesnt want to die that painful death but was later captured by his own creation and crusified by his own made creation and he cried on the cross that he has been forsaken. Is he really a God that create everytin, the earth the mars jupiter and all other planet the one that create the sun and all other stars the one that create the galaxies and the entire universe i think the God that created all this thing cannot be subjected to such humiliation by the most minute and infinitesimal of all his creation. 1 Like |
| Re: The Great Challenge For Christians by promisechuks: 9:23am On Feb 17, 2016 |
vzkpswaqnkhgytd:
Christian missionaries forge their own interpretations to divert Believers away from Islam, the solution to mankind’s problems. The Holy Quran is absolutely free of rubbish and obscene material. The Prophets of God are respected in the highest level; Christians do not discredit their prophethood for corruption and sin, yet they discredit the Prophet Muhammad for “eating poison”. Yet the biographies of Muhammad are clear that he lived for many years after consuming the poison. The Prophet displayed tremendous energy after eating the poison, showing that the poison had no effect on him. The Prophet detected the poison whereas the companions failed to detect it.
The Prophet lived for four years after the poison!
Once the Holy Prophet (Sallallaho alaihe wasallam) was given food mixed with poison to eat. He who ate it first expired, but the Holy Prophet (Sallallaho alaihe wasallam) lived for four years even after taking that food. That food told the Holy Prophet (Sallallaho alaihe wasallam): There is poison in me.
The Prophet showed tremendous energy before his death, the poison had no effect on him. When the Prophet conquered Mecca, he was fasting!
AbuBakr ibn AbdurRahman reported on the authority of a Companion of the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him): I saw the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) commanding the people while he was travelling on the occasion of the conquest of Mecca not to observe fast. He said: Be strong for your enemy. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) fasted himself. (Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 13, Number 2358 All this blabbings are meaningless because it doesn't still defile the fact that he died of poison, amazingly, your satanic allah and your satanic jubril could not heal him. |
| Re: The Great Challenge For Christians by Newnas(m): 10:29pm On Feb 17, 2016 |
promisechuks:
All this blabbings are meaningless because it doesn't still defile the fact that he died of poison, amazingly, your satanic allah and your satanic jubril could not heal him. |
| Re: The Great Challenge For Christians by Newnas(m): 10:51pm On Feb 17, 2016 |
we don't claim divinity for him, rather he is a man like us all except that he was given revelations to warn the heedless and give glad tidings of paradise to the believers!!!
If you are surprised that he died then mention any of the men of old that you still find alive walking on the earth !!!
You and these concocted stories, I wonder when you all will have -or make us of - reasoning faculty.
Tell Mr erastus adeboye to come to sabo and heal a leper that's has been known for decades or at least yinka ayefele! the guy has tried alot for bros Jay na he should be compensated with limbs abi bros Jay isn't enjoying his songs?!
your leaders are bloody liars
Mr okotie said he was 'called' to lead naija but failed in election
Orishegafor -can president - was buying ammo with private jet! and lied that Nigeria military sent him.
Mr erastus adeboye claimed that God told him the winner of this election but won't declare till after it has been concluded!!! men the guy na sharp guy!!!
Mr fireman said he cured a lady who was later found out to be his secretary!!!
These liars and 'predicters' you take as leaders should be working in the casino!!! |
| Re: The Great Challenge For Christians by nasiayam: 12:57am On Feb 18, 2016 |
promisechuks:
All this blabbings are meaningless because it doesn't still defile the fact that he died of poison, amazingly, your satanic allah and your satanic jubril could not heal him. Bring forth your evidences should you be truthful |
| Re: The Great Challenge For Christians by nasiayam: 1:01am On Feb 18, 2016 |
[s] promisechuks:
Who many times have I explained this to you?
God(yaweeh as father) made himself a man by creating an incarnate son of himself(jesus as son), and when jesus was about to ascend he promised to send the SPIRIT OF TRUTH(which is still God) which is the HOLYSPIRIT, that shall comfort, teach us and let us know all things.
Of which after the ascension of Jesus, after like 3 days of ascension, as jesus' apostles were at the upper room praying as Jesus has ordered them, immediately, the spirit of God that was promised by Jesus, fell upon them and they started to speaking in many tongues, that is where speaking in many tongues started.
So you have forgotten that jesus was 100%humanity and 100%divinity?
In all character of Jesus you have to view him in two perspective as I said before. In divinity and humanity.
He suffered at the cross and said everything he said, as human being and not as the God he is. So when he prayed at the cross he was talking to the father, as the human being he is.
Let me give you one instance of his divinity;
1. Name 1 person you know apart from Jesus that resurrected from the dead without any helper, I mean, who resurrected on his own?
No man can defeat death, but he defeated it. This is to show you his DIVINITY.
There are a lot more of his divinity. [/s] -5 Committing the grave sin of shirk. Beg God to forgive you, |
