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Re: Myths About Naira Devaluation - Nonso Obikili by Kennisch: 10:26am On Feb 17, 2016 |
DONADAMS: @ donadams, No it's not but most international transactions are done in USD then you look at their economy and government spending internationally then it balances out to where it is against the GBP and the Euro. @ aaronson, The writer tried as much as possible to state his own opinion as well as demystify some common misconceptions. That it is jargons, I beg to differ. Furthermore, would you be kind enough to answer your questions? They seem to be rhetorics after all. Thanks! |
Re: Myths About Naira Devaluation - Nonso Obikili by DONADAMS(m): 10:34am On Feb 17, 2016 |
Kennisch:tnks very much...tho l'm still not very cleared |
Re: Myths About Naira Devaluation - Nonso Obikili by Ahmed3rdjuly: 11:21am On Feb 17, 2016 |
seunmsg: China is one of the worlds biggest importers, they import almost everything into their country especially from Germany and Australia. But what they do with what they import is the big question. while China transforms the huge imported raw materials to exportable finished products here in Nigeria we consume them and exports virtually next to nothing in return except crude oil. So our export has a concentration risk in crude whose fluctuation mirrors our economy almost immediately. This is the same problem Finland experienced in the past 10 years when they exported only Nokia phones. Now their economy is in shambles as Nokia went out of market. Export diversification is the key to any strong economy and China has capitalized on that. 2 Likes |
Re: Myths About Naira Devaluation - Nonso Obikili by Ahmed3rdjuly: 11:29am On Feb 17, 2016 |
seunmsg: No nation on earth can do without importation and no nation has comparative advantage in all products. what you are encouraging is like telling a small family to grow every food they eat, sew every cloth they wear, make every furniture in the house, build their house with their hands, educate their siblings themselves. You this strategy would ensure they minimize outflow and boost their family economy right? Theory of comparative advantage, specialization and division of labor improves everyone and reduces poverty more than absolute self sufficiency. 3 Likes |
Re: Myths About Naira Devaluation - Nonso Obikili by Ahmed3rdjuly: 11:34am On Feb 17, 2016 |
acadollar:Go and find out why Switzerland is world most stable economy... The government tried to increase minimum wage at a time to score cheap political point but the people rejected it in a referendum. They understand why fighting inflation is everyone's business 2 Likes |
Re: Myths About Naira Devaluation - Nonso Obikili by piagetskinner(m): 11:49am On Feb 17, 2016 |
Y would u devalue the currency of a consuming economy.... We dont produce anything we only consume.... Countries like japan, south africa.... Dont just consume they export their products as well |
Re: Myths About Naira Devaluation - Nonso Obikili by tuniski: 12:21pm On Feb 17, 2016 |
aaronson:Give your alternative(s) there are many school of thought on economics! |
Re: Myths About Naira Devaluation - Nonso Obikili by tuniski: 12:26pm On Feb 17, 2016 |
abbey621:devaluation is the immediate Remedy to forex regime stability. That will then ensure true diversification via complementary fiscal policy. |
Re: Myths About Naira Devaluation - Nonso Obikili by acadollar(m): 1:26pm On Feb 17, 2016 |
Ahmed3rdjuly:So do you mean that less than $100 minimum wage in Nigeria is okay for citizens even if the naira is devalued? 1 Like |
Re: Myths About Naira Devaluation - Nonso Obikili by abbey621(m): 1:58pm On Feb 17, 2016 |
tuniski: Just one question, the Naira was devalued in 2014 what was the outcome? If you can answer truthfully then you would realize where I'm going! 1 Like |
Re: Myths About Naira Devaluation - Nonso Obikili by kanmyokoya: 4:31pm On Feb 17, 2016 |
please poster be more practical......just listing reports. @oduastates was more of points #gbam |
Re: Myths About Naira Devaluation - Nonso Obikili by tuniski: 4:57pm On Feb 17, 2016 |
abbey621:stability and economic growth! |
Re: Myths About Naira Devaluation - Nonso Obikili by abbey621(m): 5:27pm On Feb 17, 2016 |
tuniski: So you mean since 2014 when the Naira was devalued, it became stable and we experienced economic growth? Come on now, even you realize this is silly ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Myths About Naira Devaluation - Nonso Obikili by tuniski: 5:44pm On Feb 17, 2016 |
abbey621: U simply looking for who to agree with you. Our GDP growth has been steadily growing since the manyy devaluation but, has now been on an all time low cos we have a leadership, who doesn't get it cheered on by fans! |
Re: Myths About Naira Devaluation - Nonso Obikili by abbey621(m): 5:55pm On Feb 17, 2016 |
tuniski: Once again you are making me laugh. I operate on facts not sentiments. Look at the image below and tell me our GDP annual growth rate increased since 2014 devaluation of the Naira: ![]() I'm sure you can't argue with facts, from September 2014 to May 2015, you can see the outcome of your desired devaluation scam! |
Re: Myths About Naira Devaluation - Nonso Obikili by 9jaCrusade: 8:24pm On Feb 17, 2016 |
This is the type of thinking I like. Presenting numbers and using it in the thoughts. Thanks for helping me articulate what I have been thinking all this while. Our problem is not being export oriented. Once we improve our exports and believe in our productive capacities and abilities, we will be fulfilling our destined potentials. This will eventually lead to production of locally demanded products, further pushing down the import: GDP ratio. Enough of the ignorance. |
Re: Myths About Naira Devaluation - Nonso Obikili by maybrowne(m): 9:22pm On Feb 17, 2016 |
Seriously i see a silver lining here |
Re: Myths About Naira Devaluation - Nonso Obikili by tuniski: 9:53pm On Feb 17, 2016 |
abbey621:hypocrisy is distortion! Your submission negates. U took a part of history as the picture of the whole! Devaluation isn't 2014 and 2015 isn't a bit part! |
Re: Myths About Naira Devaluation - Nonso Obikili by abbey621(m): 10:04pm On Feb 17, 2016 |
tuniski: Mr. genius, when was the last year the Naira was devalued significantly? Olodo! The Naira had been devalued twice since the drop in global oil prices began, first in November 2014, when the central bank lowered the midpoint of the official peg by eight per cent to 168 per dollar. In February 2015, the CBN also scrapped its twice-weekly auctions at which the naira was sold at a subsidized rate, a move that resulted in an effective weakening in the exchange rate of the currency by about 15 per cent. Facts are facts my friend, stop arguing baselessly! http://www.bbc.com/news/business-30196496 http://www.punchng.com/pressure-to-devalue-naira-grows-amid-cbn-resistance/ |
Re: Myths About Naira Devaluation - Nonso Obikili by tuniski: 10:20pm On Feb 17, 2016 |
abbey621:Significantly! U are playing the ostrich. Devaluation is not cherry pick u hear! Anyway, relatively the worst is what we face now! A stubborn president and a cheering followership don't emotional deliver healiing, no they won't! Let me ask, at what point will this govt devalue? It is never a question of if. |
Re: Myths About Naira Devaluation - Nonso Obikili by futurenix(m): 10:47pm On Feb 17, 2016 |
seunmsg: I think you should do a little research on the import and export data of some of these countries we claim strengthened their nation over night. I mean China, India and the rest. I don't think there is any country that does not import, even china's import is approximately and sometimes more than their export. We maybe the giant of Africa thinking exportation will start overnight to balance the $billions that were looted. It's just a wild goose chase. Nigeria is still growing. There are potentials of exporting in the nearest future but it just can't start immediately. Most small scale businesses rely on raw materials imported for their finished products. When they can't get the forex to get these raw materials how can they even produce for the locals not to mention export. The little they struggle to get at higher cost will be transferred to the consumers. I have seen made in Nigeria products eventhough the packaging is poor but the products are good. The fall in naira does not affect businessmen and producers because they will just add the extra cost to their goods and sell whether the dollar is affecting it or not. But What about the salary earners, say civil servants? Is there any increase in their salaries to accommodate for the rise in prices of goods? Cause like it or not items a civil servant bought with 6000naira last year will swallow 10000naira presently and be looking for more. What is the government doing to enable these class of people meet up with the inflation. I don't think importation is Nigeria' problem cause if it is there must have been a glimpse of light at the tunnel' end since the restriction of forex. I am a small scale producer and just succeeded in creating demand for my product in neighbouring Cameroon (yes, I know it's not dollar sales but it's a start) , but since I am just introducing the product, I can't buy dollar at this present rate to secure the raw material and double the price of just-known product. I also can't sell at same old price and incur such lost. So my product that has taken me two and a half years to create a real demand for both locally and say internationally is no longer in Stock. In order words I have paused my little production for now and asked my two workers to go home until I see something feasible from the government. I think the government should instead increase (maybe 5×) the duties, tax and product registration on imported goods that are locally manufactured while reducing the duties on raw materials so as to encourage local production. Anybody that thinks he/she loves foreign products should be ready to pay 5× more. Easily accessed loans should be made available (but strictly monitored) to small and medium scale producers and certain tax and registrations be reduced for such producers. |
Re: Myths About Naira Devaluation - Nonso Obikili by futurenix(m): 10:50pm On Feb 17, 2016 |
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Re: Myths About Naira Devaluation - Nonso Obikili by abbey621(m): 11:34pm On Feb 17, 2016 |
tuniski: Oh now I get you, you are not clamoring for devaluation because it has merit but because you feel the president is doing a bad job of running the country. If I had known this earlier there wouldn't have been any need to go analytical, I would have simply ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Myths About Naira Devaluation - Nonso Obikili by gemale(m): 11:56am On Feb 18, 2016 |
omohayek:D market deciding wld nt curb importation because as long as dere is demand 4 d goods/services & importation seems lyk d easier option in d short term, pple wld still import eg in d chopsticks matter u gave, doesn't Nigeria have d resources 2 produce dem? Yes it might take having 2 get few Asian expatriates 2 gain d manufacturing skills bt it can still b locally produced. Importation shld only b restricted 2 raw materials & technology dt can't b locally sourced. Granted, D repercussions may b painful @ 1st bt in d long run wld benefit our economy if properly applied. Allowing d private sector free rein in economic policies is always d best of actions. D govt needs 2 regulate strictly 2 prevent sharp practices. |
Re: Myths About Naira Devaluation - Nonso Obikili by grandstar(m): 3:27pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
Topeakintola: He is right and you are wrong. Sorry 1 Like |
Re: Myths About Naira Devaluation - Nonso Obikili by grandstar(m): 4:17pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
Topeakintola: Your analysis of Japan is wrong. Japans problem is that there is too much regulations are in the economy that stifle business. Unless it deregulates and liberalises its economy, it is doomed to low growth. The Japanese are very conservative, risk averse and very resistant to change. While it took a year for US to address its recent bank crisis, it took the Japanese over 10years before they started to address theirs. 1 Like |
Re: Myths About Naira Devaluation - Nonso Obikili by arent88(m): 4:56pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
JAZES:read the article again.he didnt say devaluation wont fuel inflation,but that to an extent it wont be as damaging as people think. |
Re: Myths About Naira Devaluation - Nonso Obikili by oyinkinola: 5:08pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
[b]....there are very many commentary on depreciation of ₦ nowadays expecially in parallel market, although parallel or black market can be manipulated by the traders, they either do it on their self interest, so those who doesn't beleive in the prosperity of nigeria can harbour $ as they can on imported goods hereby cause hike! But in my own point of view the depreciation of ₦ is a great success to this nation if well manage to nigeria situation today. the looted fund is in $ and it must be refunded back in $, so if $1 is ₦198 when the money is looted, then if the money is refund today at $1 to ₦350 the nation has gained ₦152! imagine if $1=₦1000, the gain is ₦902! So in conclusion if the government managed to refund the $trillion looted and the refunded money, change it in parallel market, this will reduce the pressure on ₦ and the scarcity of $ in parallel market so the ₦=$. (take note all the money took out of CBN during jonathan regime were changed in parallel market before ditributed) you have other opinion?[/b] |
Re: Myths About Naira Devaluation - Nonso Obikili by grandstar(m): 11:16pm On Feb 21, 2016 |
omohayek: fantastic post. Emefiele said he was giving all the support in terms of the foriegn exchange needs to Dangote in building his enormous refinery. Dangote is a man who can acquire the needed funds overseas at 2% above libor. He does not need a cent from the foriegn reserves. How can you claim forex is scarce yet choose to sell all at the cheapest price? Makes no sense. |
Re: Myths About Naira Devaluation - Nonso Obikili by Sanchase: 11:29pm On Feb 21, 2016 |
Nigerians shouting "Devalue devalue devalue Naira". All those people shouting devalue have stacked up foreign currency. The FG has announced that anybody who shouts devalue again will have their property and accounts investigated by the EFCC with immediate effect ![]() |
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