Re: Fashola Warns Mend
« #657 on: July 26, 2009, 09:54 AM »

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I am very happy that tribal sentimentalism has taken over this thread.

Ikeyman, virtually everything on that your BBC history memo is a lie.

The Moroccans conquered Spain, Portugal and some parts of Italy in about 700 AD. Spain and Portugal were amalgamated to form Al Andalus (Andalucia) which was not freed till about the 1400s. By the Frankish Crusaders under the blessing of the Pope.

After about a century of the roaming around Northern Africa, those muslims expelled from Spain and Portugal started a Jihad which earned them a home and a Caliphate in Sokoto.

Immediately after their liberation, the Spanish and Portuguese having learnt a lot in sailing and warfare from their colonial masters, started sailing around the world aimlessly till they discovered America and then the trans-Atlantic slave trade started.

So please, take anything these Europeans teach their children with a pinch of salt. The Moors and Berbers of Morocco conquered and ruled Italy, Spain and Portugal for approximately 700 years and it took all the militaries of Europe led by the french to finally defeat them. Europeans used to call those 700 years the dark ages. Some say its called the dark ages because they don't remember what happened during that period. Some say its the dark ages because things were really bad. But the truth is that they call them the dark ages because they were ruled by brown skinned people and after the Moroccans left Portugal and Spain, these became the most success countries in Europe till the jealous british declared war on Spain.


Coming to the Yorubas, no one knows where they are from. Even Oduduwa doesn't know where they are from. When the Binis revolted against the Ogiso (people of the sky) dynasty because of their indulgence in human pleasures, the half human son of the ruling Ogiso and when he reached a place where people worshipped him, the Bini tried to lure him back to rule, but he told them Izoduwa (I HAVE CHOSEN A HOME). In Ife that is.

And here is a typical example of what i am saying. In your process of trying to debunk one story, you add your own story as well. Why don't you state your sources? I personally find what you posted almost insulting. You talk about "Izoduwa". Who is this Izoduwa that you mention? This name has just started circulating recently, while "Oduduwa" has been around and continues to exist sinc enay colonial writings ever existed. You guys really need to stop manufacturing stories and new names to justify your political ambitions. The truth is universal.

This is the more reason why I am very proud of being a Yoruba,because each family have a well presented history pass on from one generation to other.
Without disrespect to any other tribes in Nigeria, Yoruba's are very rich in culture and diverse set of people and this facts are all over the world today
Like every other tribes like Ibo,Hausa etc we have our own ups and downs. The good thing is that unlike other tribes we are the first democracy in Africa (composition of Oyo Kingdom) and we as people have suffered series of attacks from other neighbouring kingdoms couple with internal wars. Oyo empire was so successfull that the only comparison are the Shanghai empire in China, extending to so many countries in West Africa. The effect of which is still visible today in many countries of the world.

^^^^^Talk full of airs, lacking in any iota of substance. Fool!! .

Anyway talk is cheap.

George_D:

point of order! atlas cove is a federal government facility not that of
lagos state. the ground where it is sited is owned by the federal government.
let's not be too carried away.

George_D:

same thing you have been smoking too. only that i refused to take the
larger share and left it for you!

George_D:

remember you left one stick on the table and i borrowed it
for myself?

nex:

@George_D

how will Deltans feel if Ondo state indigenes blow up the PTI Warri in their own show of freedom fighting for the Niger Delta people? After all, the institute is a Federal one.

But do you think it will be fair to the people of Delta state? Do you think they won't look for an opportunity to strike back at Ondo?

I'm not from Lagos state, but the fact that Lagos is the most mature and civilized state among all the rest doesn't mean we should use our madness to put it in jeopardy.

There is no way to justify the Atlas Cove bombing.


Lagos has been the state carrying the voice of the Niger Delta struggle to the entire country and bringing in Niger Deltans to communicate with the entire country and beyond. If the Lagos state government decides to ban all television and radio broadcast on the Niger Delta issue and censor all print media within its borders (which you know the FG will support), how do we get word out?

How do we garner support and sympathy? That is, the real Nigerian citizens from the Niger Delta who are concerned about the situation.

CNN and BBC will not come to stay in the Niger Delta 24/7.

And without adequate media coverage, the Federal government can slaughter 5 militants and 5,000 innocent citizens and NTA will say JTF just completely annihilated MEND. They will dress everyone up in camouflage, with rifles and send the pictures round the world which AIT, STV, Channels, TVC, LTV or MiTV will be there to help deny the claim or refuse to doctor the pictures?

Anyway, like Fashola said, let it never repeat itself.

nex:

@Ibime

your cowardice is well displayed by your boldness in throwing words recklessly in your anonymous security.

nex:

@George_D

how will Deltans feel if Ondo state indigenes blow up the PTI Warri in their own show of freedom fighting for the Niger Delta people? After all, the institute is a Federal one.

But do you think it will be fair to the people of Delta state? Do you think they won't look for an opportunity to strike back at Ondo?

I'm not from Lagos state, but the fact that Lagos is the most mature and civilized state among all the rest doesn't mean we should use our madness to put it in jeopardy.

There is no way to justify the Atlas Cove bombing.


Lagos has been the state carrying the voice of the Niger Delta struggle to the entire country and bringing in Niger Deltans to communicate with the entire country and beyond. If the Lagos state government decides to ban all television and radio broadcast on the Niger Delta issue and censor all print media within its borders (which you know the FG will support), how do we get word out?

How do we garner support and sympathy? That is, the real Nigerian citizens from the Niger Delta who are concerned about the situation.

CNN and BBC will not come to stay in the Niger Delta 24/7.

And without adequate media coverage, the Federal government can slaughter 5 militants and 5,000 innocent citizens and NTA will say JTF just completely annihilated MEND. They will dress everyone up in camouflage, with rifles and send the pictures round the world which AIT, STV, Channels, TVC, LTV or MiTV will be there to help deny the claim or refuse to doctor the pictures?

Anyway, like Fashola said, let it never repeat itself.