hubreality:

Believing is a choice. How can an unbeliever support and advice better either. I'm an eternal tither because I believed God's word. Not because of my so called religion or pastor.

hubreality,i cant believe you are the one saying all this rubbish,are you trying to tell us that you pay tithe?

Yes I tithe willingly based on my personal convictions of God's word by His Spirit.

Yes I tithe willingly based on my personal convictions of God's word by His Spirit.

Okemoni:

it is actually in matthew 5:17-19.@ the Lord coming to fulfil and nt to break the law.
if the Lord came to break the law, we would nt still be using the 10 commandments.

Thank you for giving the right quote rather than the earlier misleading "further affirm it" you used.
NOW, what does it mean to fulfil something e.g. a contract, a convenant etc

hubreality:

Yes I tithe willingly based on my personal convictions of God's word by His Spirit.

Will you mind saying how much (%) of your income that you tithe and how often? Thanks.

Tithe collection is illegal,we have dwell on tithing alot in this forum,there are topics on tithe by Kunleoshob, segyemaro and others.so you people should call of the bullshit called tithing,that is the reason why we have church at every corner and also in hotels.

@ anonimi, to fulfill is to play your part in a contract or covenant.

are we still on this tithing rubbish?

Tithing is for believers(Word doers) and not for unbelievers(critics) likewise other issues. Its meaningless to any unbeliever. Its a faith walk. I don't argue nor debate the Scriptures. Pretty choice of mine.

Shikena

eghosaobas:

are we still on this tithing rubbish?

i bet you and your people are paying some form of tithe to ogun. olokun and oronmila for you so keep quiet. some matters are beyond your pay grade.

anonimi:

Will you mind saying how much (%) of your income that you tithe and how often? Thanks.

wil you mind telling us what % of yours you pay to whatever cause you follow. you guys dont ask yourself questions when you buy football idol T shirts at exhorbitant prizes or buy rubbish CDs supporting drug using musicians yet you feel obligated to tell the christuian how to spend his/her money.

go read the book whose money is it anyway you will see we all pay tithe it depends on who and how you pay it. some pay it willingly some pay it without knowing.

we are all tithers. the millions paid to air head footballers and actors and actresses are money coming from people like you yet you dont see anything wrong with that. God is not asking you for what He has not given you. i know it is hard for you to get your head around some of us came from zero and would never have had a kobo to our name except for Gods goodness and mercies.

i urge you to read

Deuteronomy 26 (Amplified Bible)

1WHEN YOU have come into the land which the Lord your God gives you as an inheritance and possess it and live in it,

2You shall take some of the first of all the produce of the soil which you harvest from the land the Lord your God gives you and put it in a basket, and go to the place [the sanctuary] which the Lord your God has chosen as the abiding place for His Name [and His Presence].

3And you shall go to the priest who is in office in those days, and say to him, I give thanks this day to the Lord your God that I have come to the land which the Lord swore to our fathers to give us.

4And the priest shall take the basket from your hand and set it down before the altar of the Lord your God.

5And you shall say before the Lord your God, [list]
A wandering and lost Aramean ready to perish was my father [Jacob], and he went down into Egypt and sojourned there, few in number, and he became there a nation, great, mighty, and numerous.

6And the Egyptians treated us very badly and afflicted us and laid upon us hard bondage.

7And when we cried to the Lord, the God of our fathers, the Lord heard our voice and looked on our affliction and our labor and our [cruel] oppression;

8And the Lord brought us forth out of Egypt with a mighty hand and with an outstretched arm, and with great (awesome) power and with signs and with wonders;

9And He brought us into this place and gave us this land, a land flowing with milk and honey.

10And now, behold, I bring the firstfruits of the ground which You, O Lord, have given me. And you shall set it down before the Lord your God and worship before the Lord your God;

11And you and the Levite and the stranger and the sojourner among you shall rejoice in all the good which the Lord your God has given you and your household.

12When you have finished paying all the tithe of your produce the third year, which is the year of tithing, and have given it to the Levite, the stranger and the sojourner, the fatherless, and to the widow, that they may eat within your towns and be filled,

13Then you shall say before the Lord your God, I have brought the hallowed things (the tithe) out of my house and moreover have given them to the Levite, to the stranger and the sojourner, to the fatherless, and to the widow, according to all Your commandments which You have commanded me; I have not transgressed any of Your commandments, neither have I forgotten them.

14I have not eaten of the tithe in my mourning [making the tithe unclean], nor have I handled any of it when I was unclean, nor given any of it to the dead. I have hearkened to the voice of the Lord my God; I have done according to all that You have commanded me.

15Look down from Your holy habitation, from heaven, and bless Your people Israel and the land which You have given us as You swore to our fathers, a land flowing with milk and honey.

16This day the Lord your God has commanded you to do these statutes and ordinances. Therefore you shall keep and do them with all your [mind and] heart and with all your being.

17You have [openly] declared the Lord this day to be your God, [pledging] to walk in His ways, to keep His statutes and His commandments and His precepts, and to hearken to His voice.

18And the Lord has declared this day that you are His peculiar people as He promised you, and you are to keep all His commandments;

19And He will make you high above all nations which He has made, in praise and in fame and in honor, and that you shall be a holy people to the Lord your God, as He has spoken.

omoruyilag:

Tithe collection is illegal,we have dwell on tithing alot in this forum,there are topics on tithe by Kunleoshob, segyemaro and others.so you people should call of the bullshit called tithing,that is the reason why we have church at every corner and also in hotels.

you wish they let you continue sacrificing your dogs and izobo at every junction dont you? iw ould rather have churches in every corner than the sacrifice and evil idols you have at your backyard. it pains you churches are every where you have not seen anything yet. the light is coming.

@ all

What exactly qualifies one to be a pastor and why do we need them?

12When you have finished paying all the tithe of your produce the third year, which is the year of tithing, and have given it to the Levite, the stranger and the sojourner, the fatherless, and to the widow, that they may eat within your towns and be filled,

13Then you shall say before the Lord your God, I have brought the hallowed things (the tithe) out of my house and moreover have given them to the [b]Levite, to the stranger and the sojourner, to the fatherless, and to the widow, [/b]according to all Your commandments which You have commanded me;

GEW:

i bet you and your people are paying some form of tithe to ogun. olokun and oronmila for you so keep quiet. some matters are beyond your pay grade. wil you mind telling us what % of yours you pay to whatever cause you follow.

we are all tithers.

God is not asking you for what He has not given you. i know it is hard for you to get your head around some of us came from zero and would never have had a kobo to our name except for Gods goodness and mercies.

i urge you to read you wish they let you continue sacrificing your dogs and izobo at every junction dont you? iw ould rather have churches in every corner than the sacrifice and evil idols you have at your backyard. it pains you churches are every where you have not seen anything yet. the light is coming.

Please sir, how many strangers and widows chopped inside your last tithe?

t0kunb0:

@ all

What exactly qualifies one to be a pastor and why do we need them?

A Sweet mouth.

You need them to give you something to hope on.

Yet the truth is that the Hope you've gone looking for in Sokoto
All the while it was inside your Shokoto.

Pastor AIO:

A Sweet mouth.

You need them to give you something to hope on.

Yet the truth is that the Hope you've gone looking for in Sokoto
All the while it was inside your Shokoto.

How do I differentiate btw genuine hope or someone just stating the obvious with some biblical backings?

Pastor AIO:

A Sweet mouth.

You need them to give you something to hope on.

Yet the truth is that the Hope you've gone looking for in Sokoto
All the while it was inside your Shokoto.

My man easy oooo

t0kunb0:

How do I differentiate btw genuine hope or someone just stating the obvious with some biblical backings?

What seems obvious is not necessarily true.  

The hope worth adhering to is that which is based on what is within you.

not what you get from without.  


I believe that we each have our portion.  If a certain sum of money, say N150 000, ducks I believe that if it truly is for you it will come back, yet if it was not for you then there is no way that you can hold on to it.  

This is not an easy belief to uphold.  Your common senses, plus everybody  you know, tells you that things are random and by chance and that once you've missed your chance then that's it.  It is hard to ignore that clamour and trust that things are as they are meant to be.

hubreality:

Tithing is for believers(Word doers) and not for unbelievers(critics) likewise other issues. Its meaningless to any unbeliever. Its a faith walk. I don't argue nor debate the Scriptures. Pretty choice of mine.

You must fulfil the other requirements of the jewish law unless you wantto attract the curse of moses.

Mind choosing to live by the law means you are no longer a christian as galatians 5:4 clearly tells us. You have rejected the paschal sacrifice and have chosen to live in bondage.

Okemoni:

@ anonimi, to fulfill is to play your part in a contract or covenant.

you are embarking on another implicit distortion yet again by responding

play your part in a contract

Now consider the whole sentence in Matthew 5:17   

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil

It may be useful to also take into consideration verse 18

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Hmn

God is not happy that you lost ur money.
The principle of tithing under the law of Moses does not apply to gentile believers. Tithe and various forms of offering were meant to take care of the tribe of Levi (non of the PAstors in the gentile world belong to this tribe) who were not given any landed inheritance where they too could farm or make money. Tithe was not giving only in cash but also in form of farm produce etc.
As a gentile believer, there is no law (even Malachi 3 was referring directly to the breaking of the law on tithe by the Jews) in the Bible under which we are mandated to give 10% of our income. We are to take care of our household first then give willingly and cheerfully to God according to our ability. If you like give 100% or 1% as long as it is from a willing mind. I give tithe and more not as a legal requirement or for me not to go to hell, but willingly from my heart to God.
Do not let anyonemakes you feel guilty for not paying tithe and offering.
But if you give to God, God will also bless you. If you sow sparingly you will reap sparingly. However do not attempt to give to God like investment in shares or bank with the mind of multiplying to 100 fold as they use they used to motivate people- God is not a fool or a beggar. Give to God willingly from your mind what you are able.

Duroe,you ve spoken well but most of this pastors put fears in the heart of the lily livers members that they would go to hell if they dont pay tithes.

@poster, you'll catch the vision(purpose) of tithing by a deep overwhelming of God's Spirit by His Word in Knowledge and Understanding when you seek to know Him(the Word) in your faith walk with God. "No Hell for the saved." Tithing is a good and necessary choice in principle for your Kingdom prosperity as a believer(Word doer).
Your destiny is in your hand.

Hubreality,are you saying that TITHING is a yadstick to make heaven? Was that what Jesus Christ preached? How long are we going to be brainwashed and decieved by this so called pastors?

Hubreality is already completely lost, he as sold his soul to a scammer.

Tithing doesn't take you to heaven. One who is saved in Christ Jesus already has eternal life. Tithing is a sure faith walk to believers; most meaningless to unbelievers(critics).

Hubreality,you are not here nor there. You are just in the middle.

So is how they deceive the christians, applying the same logic to so called Miracle and healing

Remember I never said, "if you don't pay tithe you'll go to hell" but I pointed out that, "No hell for the saved." I believe in tithing because God's word said it and it is a Godly principle of prosperity for a believer. I tithe willingly and cheerfully without any compulsion by my pastor or anybody.

Stop listening to your pastor. You need a financial adviser on how to manage your money.

hubreality:

Tithing doesn't take you to heaven. One who is saved in Christ Jesus already has eternal life. Tithing is a sure faith walk to believers; most meaningless to unbelievers(critics).

yeah a sure faith walk to love-vendor suits for chris oyakilhome.

zombie united

Hahaha! very interesting, little sentiments though not news any longer.

May God help us