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Re: Jos Riot: Ibb Appears Before Ajibola Commission by sley4life(m): 4:44am On Jul 24, 2009
IBB is a bazzztard. Why didnt he appear before Oputa panel
Re: Jos Riot: Ibb Appears Before Ajibola Commission by mccloud224(m): 4:56am On Jul 24, 2009
Bcoz Oputa Panel no get mouth were im dey.Imagine.And we talk say we dey inside country.This joke is a country is a zoo.
Re: Jos Riot: Ibb Appears Before Ajibola Commission by defman: 5:43am On Jul 24, 2009
feyisan:

In all honesty I don't particularly hate the man for his past. However he must show
remose and repent.

His coming back might be to the advantage of Nigerians as his aim might be to repear the
damages he caused, win the confidence of the general populace back and receive God's favour
before the last minutes.

So, showing remorse will repair all the damage and gurantee that he won't sell us again? Didn't Obasanjo show remorse and repent? Did that stop him from leaving this country worse than he met it?
Re: Jos Riot: Ibb Appears Before Ajibola Commission by mccloud224(m): 5:51am On Jul 24, 2009
@defman

Abeg reply these people wetin dem need hear.Wetin be remorse?Wetin be repentance?For another land, people wey commit 1/100000000 of wetin these guys do go either receive death sentence or 2 million years in prison.Even Madoff wey be business man get 150 years (at old age) and no be govt money be that.What most of our past leaders have committed is treason which is punishable by death.Treason involves betraying the citizens and leadership of that nation and not abiding the commands in law (na my rough definition be that, look your own for Wiki)
Re: Jos Riot: Ibb Appears Before Ajibola Commission by udezue(m): 6:22am On Jul 24, 2009
Why didnt OPC do something about this? Yoruba ppl massacred in Jos and they were silent but they want talk shit about MEND coz they know the Hausa north is against MEND. The way these ppl dey SUCK HAUSA COCKS is amazing. Toothless COCK SUCKING dogs.
Re: Jos Riot: Ibb Appears Before Ajibola Commission by mccloud224(m): 6:26am On Jul 24, 2009
@Udezue

I second your reply.Na MEND dem get mouth for.Aboki-dick sucking gays.
Re: Jos Riot: Ibb Appears Before Ajibola Commission by princekevo(m): 8:44am On Jul 24, 2009
vigasimple:

NO, it was Kaduna Nzeogwu not JJ rawlings, but the concept is similar except that the Nzeogwu case the 'elimination' ended up on ethnic line favouring the Igbo's and that is why it fail miserably.

The best case scenario, such leader like rawlings will take 6 people in each of the 6 geo political zone, and make them an example. Choose them according to the severity of their corruption. It must be 6 in each region otherwise the perspections of Tribalism will make it to fail again.

IDIAGBON has tried something similar and succesful against Drug tarffickers, result 90% reduction in Drug Trafficking overnight.

Nigeria is not too big or too diverse, it is the usual excuse NOT to do what it is necessary.

So in the present Nigeria today how do u think there would b a general cleasing without some tribe feeling cheated or seeing it being unfair,  Go and read the history of Ghana, they have 2 major tribes who see themselves as rivals since Independence, the Ewes, and the Ashanti. If you study the revolution that happens 1979 very well u will understand that the killing practically favours the Ewes and most of the people killed were from Ashanti region,
If you read this:
On June 4, 1979, Akuffo's government was deposed in a violent coup by a group of junior and noncommissioned officers – Armed Forces Revolutionary Council (AFRC) – with Flt. Lt. Jerry John Rawlings as its chairman. The AFRC executed eight senior military officers, including former chiefs of state Acheampong and Akuffo; established secret Special Tribunals that tried dozens of military officers, government officials, and private individuals for corruption, sentenced them to long prison terms and confiscating property.

From the info above the eight senior military officers, including Acheampong and Akuffo are all Ashanti and even the other military officers sentence to long term prison were majority from Ashanti region,
But people of Ghana didn't this as being biased or tribalistic, u know why? What matters to them was the Objective and intension of J.J Rawlings. Cos the top corrupt military officer who were in power from February 24, 1966 to that June 4, 1979 happens to be majority of Ashanti region since they took over power from Nkrumah who is an Ewe,
If that happened in Nigeria today we will all still count it as being traibalistic on the side of J.Rawlings who is an Ewe or as a revenge for the overthrow of Kwame Nkuruma By the Military and putting Brigadier. A.A. Afrifa as the chief of state who is an Ashanti,

Then bringing it down to Nigerian we have today, Ask urself Which tribes has been majority in power since Independence which tribes has less tested power, We all know that if there happen to be a cleansing of these past corrupt leaders and criminals still parading themselves as Elder states men, the North will have a bigger share of it, followed by the west, How would you feel abt it, and wht would they say? Probably they would proclaim it as being biases unfair and tribally motivated. But it must happen someday irrespective of how some group of people are gonna feel or think abt it, because we cant jst sit and watch these criminals who should be in their grave yards or serving a life term jail for the Atrocities  they commited against Nigeria, parading themselves on the street boldly and even wanting to come back to steal more.
Re: Jos Riot: Ibb Appears Before Ajibola Commission by Nezan(m): 9:53am On Jul 24, 2009
udezue:

Why didnt OPC do something about this? Yoruba ppl massacred in Jos and they were silent but they want talk shit about MEND coz they know the Hausa north is against MEND. The way these ppl dey SUCK HAUSA COCKS is amazing. Toothless COCK SUCKING dogs.
This is a nasty post, you know,
Re: Jos Riot: Ibb Appears Before Ajibola Commission by udezue(m): 10:01am On Jul 24, 2009
idc ;d
Re: Jos Riot: Ibb Appears Before Ajibola Commission by vigasimple(m): 10:26am On Jul 24, 2009
princekevo:

So in the present Nigeria today how do u think there would a general cleasing without some tribe feeling cheated or seeing it being unfair, Go and read the history of Ghana, they have 2 major tribes who see themselves as rivals since Independence, the Ewes, and the Ashanti. If you study the revolution that happens 1979 very well u will understand that the killing practically favours the Ewes and most of the people killed were from Ashanti region,
If you read this:
On June 4, 1979, Akuffo's government was deposed in a violent coup by a group of junior and noncommissioned officers – Armed Forces Revolutionary Council (AFRC) – with Flt. Lt. Jerry John Rawlings as its chairman. The AFRC executed eight senior military officers, including former chiefs of state Acheampong and Akuffo; established secret Special Tribunals that tried dozens of military officers, government officials, and private individuals for corruption, sentenced them to long prison terms and confiscating property.

From the info above the eight senior military officers, including Acheampong and Akuffo are all Ashanti and even the other military officers sentence to long term prison well mostly from Ashanti region,
But people of Ghana didn't these as being biased or tribalistic, u know why? What matters to them was the Objective and intension of J.J Rawlings. Cos the top corrupt military officer who was in power from February 24, 1966 to that June 4, 1979 happens to be majority of Ashanti region since they took over power from Nkrumah is an Ewe,
If that happened in Nigeria today we will all count is as being traibalistic on the side of J.Rawlings who is an Ewe or as a revenge for the overthrow of Nkuruma By the MillMilitary putting Brigadier. A.A. Afrifa as the chief of state who is an Ashanti,

Then bringing it down to Nigerian we have today, Ask urself Which tribes has been majority in power since Independence which tribes has less tested power, We all know that if there happen to be a cleansing of these past corrupt leaders and criminals still parading themselves as Elder states men, the North will have a bigger share of it, followed by the west, How would you feel abt it, and wht would they say? Probably they would proclaim it as being biases unfair and tribally motivated, But it must happen someday irrespective of how some group of people are gonna feel or think abt it, Because we cant jst sit watch these criminals who should be in their grave yards or serving a life term jail for the Atrocities they commited against Nigeria, parading themselves on the street boldly and even wanting to come back to steal more.

You are very close to the point, but you still miss the point.

The nzeogwu plan was to eliminate those that are puling Nigeria backward,. It was agreed and they were identified by whatever criteria and it includes politicians from North to West and to the East.

When it comes to implementation, the people who are meant to carry out the East operations leak the plan to the people they were suppossed to get rid of, and those people were able to escape.

What happen afterwards confirms that an Easterner planned a coup and only eliminate the Northerners and Westerners when the plan and intentions were different.

In Nigeria of today, you will find good (or shall we say very bad) 6 examples of very corrupt politicians in 6 of the geo political zones. They are to be made as an example so that 'leaders' or public officials we have fear of doing something bad or illegal.

Don't allow accusation of tribalism rightly or wrongly, as that was how Nzeogwu was recorded in Histrory.
Re: Jos Riot: Ibb Appears Before Ajibola Commission by princekevo(m): 11:57am On Jul 24, 2009
vigasimple:

You are very close to the point, but you still miss the point.

The nzeogwu plan was to eliminate those that are puling Nigeria backward,. It was agreed and they were identified by whatever criteria and it includes politicians from North to West and to the East.

When it comes to implementation, the people who are meant to carry out the East operations leak the plan to the people they were suppossed to get rid of, and those people were able to escape.

What happen afterwards confirms that an Easterner planned a coup and only eliminate the Northerners and Westerners when the plan and intentions were different.

In Nigeria of today, you will find good (or shall we say very bad) 6 examples of very corrupt politicians in 6 of the geo political zones. They are to be made as an example so that 'leaders' or public officials we have fear of doing something bad or illegal.

Don't allow accusation of tribalism rightly or wrongly, as that was how Nzeogwu was recorded in Histrory.

So do you mean the problem of Nigeria or the troubles we have in Nigeria today are being caused by only 6 very guys as you said? Wht is the true fact of this and that these guys are Evenly spread over the 6 geo political Zones?
No matter how you look at it some group of people must see it as being unjust or unfair to them, jst as the Ashanti's still holds that today against MDC which happens to b J.J Rawling party,

Like i said b4, it doesn't matter where these guyz come from, They must be eliminated accordingly, to achieve a maximum result at the end, anybody can think whtever or bear their grudges as long as Nigeria becomes a better place for you and i.
Re: Jos Riot: Ibb Appears Before Ajibola Commission by vigasimple(m): 12:33pm On Jul 24, 2009
@ Princekevo

Always start at the right footing when you can.

If you are going to carry out such thing in Nigeria with maximum effect and you don't allow religion and tribal sentiment to derail the project, do an even handed justice.

Find 6 corrupt people in each of the 6 geo political zone, and let them be an example to the rest, believe me, everyone will be very careful on how they conduct themselves.

If any set of people tried the like the Nzeogwu one , it will lead to another civil war. And with war, in most cases there are usally no winner or loser but painful loss on either side and very very sour memory. Even if we divide Nigeria today, the perceived beneficiaries may not be the real beneficiaries.

We had missed one opportunity during Abacha regime to clear out hoodlums in our midst. But, i am sure another opportunity will present itself.
Re: Jos Riot: Ibb Appears Before Ajibola Commission by wamby(m): 6:24pm On Jul 24, 2009
people saying IBB is now a repetant criminal and has good plans 4 his country, is like saying maurice iwu like give nigerians a credible elections 2011. once a thief in dz country will always be a thief. shun biblical saying if want to blast me. lets wait 4 maurice iwu 2011 do deliver credible election
Re: Jos Riot: Ibb Appears Before Ajibola Commission by shesi(m): 7:16pm On Jul 24, 2009
Becareful what you ask for People. Jerry Rawlings is no saint. the situation in Ghana was quite different from what you have in nigeria today.

First of all, there was not as much distrust among the tribes as you have in Nigeria. Infact, as far as tribalism goes,  its everybody against the Ashantis. In terms of the two biggest groupings (loosely related tribes), they are the Akans(of which the Ashantis belong) and the Northerners (Hausas, Fulanis, etc) The Ewes are not a dominant group in Ghana. Infact they only became part of Ghana in the 50s. They used to be part of Togoland, which was german territory until germany lost the second world war.

It was Rawlings who introduced Tribalism into Ghanaian politics. The Ewes realised that if they came together and voted for one person, they could have a big say. Prior to 1981 tribalism was never a big theme in Ghana politics. Nobody really cared what tribe those Army Rulers who were executed were from. Besides, the coup that resulted in their execution was not conducted by Rawlings. Rawlings was just the face of that coup. The coup was actually conducted by one Boakye Djan, an ashanti. Rawlings was in Prison during the coup. He was rescued after the coup to be the face of the coup because they were all young and didn't know how the people would react to their coup and since rawlings was already popular with the masses, they decided to use him.

I agree with you on one thing though. You can't have too many of those coup plotters and military rulers running around in the country. They are always destabilizing the system somehow. Those men are thiefs and worst, think they are the only ones capable of running the country in question. In ghana we only have one such person still running around, that's rawlings. One is ok. If we had more than one like you do in nigeria, the country would be up in flames.


You need to flush out all those former military rulers and their ilk. and there is a way to do it without arousing too much tribal sentiment. Ofcourse one tribe may bear the brunt of the action but that alone should not start a war. Afterall, they are all suffering. It's not like life for the ordinary northerner in nigeria is roses. they are suffering too.

The problem nigeria has is i don't see how any agitation to upset the status quo can settle without the country splitting up. Any attempt at forcing the issue will ultimately result in the country splitting up, the way i see it. There is too much bad blood.

The next alternative is vigilante justice. It will not be pretty but it might work. Basically the youth start killing any official if it becomes clear they are engaged in corruption. bombings, snipers, you name it. ofcourse you give the accused person time to clear their name through the press. But if they are unable to do so or continue walking around like they couldn't be bothered, then you eliminate them. Trust me, in no time, all those governors and senators will sit up. Maybe Mend and similar groups should start changing their modus operandi. lol.
Re: Jos Riot: Ibb Appears Before Ajibola Commission by ridgeman: 10:53pm On Jul 24, 2009
IBB is the reason why nigeria fell backwards! He has nothing to contribute except charm and a toothy grin. It is time to
kick him aside so we can move forward!

The man is a waste of time!
Re: Jos Riot: Ibb Appears Before Ajibola Commission by lawwyblack(m): 12:05am On Jul 25, 2009
He is tired of sitting at home desperately looking for relevance, I dont envy him and he ll never become president till he ends his life.
Re: Jos Riot: Ibb Appears Before Ajibola Commission by jamace(m): 6:03pm On Jul 25, 2009
He is tired of sitting at home desperately looking for relevance, I dont envy him and he ll never become president till he ends his life.

grin grin grin . You get razor mouth o grin grin
Re: Jos Riot: Ibb Appears Before Ajibola Commission by sherrif222: 6:44pm On Jul 25, 2009
such people shud be put in jail, when will we start facing the truth and living with it,imafine a man dat has commited series of crime talking about contesting for presidency, a kille, well complete it if u like am out of this discossion.
Re: Jos Riot: Ibb Appears Before Ajibola Commission by ridgeman: 9:15pm On Jul 25, 2009
Interesting how many people want MEND to 'fix' the problem by eliminating high profile targets!

Bad leadership only occurs with the cooperation of 'good' leaders.

At the moment IBB is free to run for office the real evil comes from those who will collaborate with him.

If all the 'good' leaders hold their ground and reject his overtures then his dream will be short lived.


That is the real challenge
Re: Jos Riot: Ibb Appears Before Ajibola Commission by Virgo83(m): 4:10pm On Jul 26, 2009
Who born monkey, why will he not appear when he heard that if he insist on not appearing before the commission every possible measure will be taken upon him,


Baba no want disgrace
Re: Jos Riot: Ibb Appears Before Ajibola Commission by Nezan(m): 5:36pm On Jul 27, 2009
Virgo83:

Who born monkey, why will he not appear when he heard that if he insist on not appearing before the commission every possible measure will be taken upon him,


Baba no want disgrace
funny
Re: Jos Riot: Ibb Appears Before Ajibola Commission by CGKing(m): 10:02am On Jul 29, 2009
udezue:

Why didnt OPC do something about this? Yoruba ppl massacred in Jos and they were silent but they want talk shit about MEND coz they know the Hausa north is against MEND. The way these ppl dey SUCK HAUSA COCKS is amazing. Toothless COCK SUCKING dogs.

See am. Them no dey waste time. Them must to find way take squeeze some tribal bullshit into our solutions mix to real Nigerian problems. How do you guys do it?

Abeg MEND, help us to mend the IBB Stitch. See eh, una need to redefine una mission statement. If u guys go about your oil war, it wont take u anywhere. At the end of the day, na una go still suffer am. Borrow something from Brother Jerry, save strees and money, just target all these stupid ppl wey una call leaders and take them out one by one. Nothing go happen, u know say security no tight for naija. We go join una celebrate every victorious kill and i fit contribute small small from my salary for this cause. Make una check am. Ndo!

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