Debosky

Your argument is that you have seen nothing wrong with this decision including the timing?

How would you explain to the ordinary militant that your decision is in good faith? And you mentioned that the institute is located somewhere else is not bad, why must it be Kaduna?

The message this decision is passing to Deltans is that the Northerners own Nigeria and they can do anything they want with it. That is like spitting on their faces and telling them they can do nothing.

I do like your arguments but sometimes you forget to balance technicality with reason.

debosky:

PTI is one of a kind and is receiving utmost attention iwth a 17b upgrade adn remaining in the Delta - what is the issue?

An Institute for Policy and Strategic Studies is being created elsewhere with a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT purpose and outlook so what exactly is the problem? The PTI retains it's role and reinforces it's strengths and is in no way encumbered with the inevitable issues that University status brings, so has it lost it's unique status?

Must PTI be lumbered with the NIPPS for it to retain it's strategic status? Kindly display the thinking out of the box in this situation so we can all benefit from your thought processes.

The issue? Please go back to the begininng of this thread

2 days ago ad was flying on the dailies for positions in the university of petroleum resources just yes'day it was rebaptised & degraded. So wat's going to happen thereafter to the ads&positions, ?
The greatest attrocity of all time is imposing the so called "m*m*oru yar'dull" on us. OBJ u're "ekwensu"!!!
Does this movin cadavre thinks dat evrybody is dull dat lukumon after decades spent with opec comes back to be min of petroleum? y not give fresh brains chance.
This time i hope militants will not shooting radioactives,

FG are run by lunatics

F.G is not only unserious but also insincere about d so-called amnesty. The handwriting is on d wall. MEND more action.

wel, its a pity, but does the country really nid to waste 14b naira on tht project cos there are a lotta things they can do with that dough

This is an ill-timed decision.
The militants declared a 60-day ceasefire, some people are obviously not happy about it.
This goes to show our leaders want the chaos to continue.

@Debosky,

You have some good points but you must understand that the Federal Government has already acquired a site for a Federal University of Petroleum Resources somewhere close to Warri.
PTI was only designated as a take-off site.

What Yar 'Adua is doing is simply to bastardise Obasanjo's legacies. He has reversed virtually all Obasanjo's policies.
Obasanjo removed Nigeria from the list of indebted nations, Yar' Adua is putting us back in that list.

What is left is for him to bring back the 88 banks Charles Soludo consolidated.

The worst and most devilish thing OBASANJO did to Nigerians is Imposing this ILL-LADEN MONSTER CALLED YARADUA on us.
May God help us.

There is nothing like Nigeria what we have is anyhow

Warri Boi:

There is nothing like Nigeria what we have is anyhow

I dont undastand wat you mean?

naijaking1:

The issue? Please go back to the begininng of this thread

Trite comments do not help - the beginning of the thread gives the minister's justification for the action, so again I ask you, what is the issue?

agabaI23:

Debosky

Your argument is that you have seen nothing wrong with this decision including the timing?

Timing may have been bad, but I never mentioned anything regarding that - what they failed to do was to highlight was has been done and is continuing to be done in the ND - essentially it was a PR gaffe. It has been distorted to mean something is being 'moved' to Kaduna when it never existed anywhere else in the first instance.

How would you explain to the ordinary militant that your decision is in good faith? And you mentioned that the institute is located somewhere else is not bad, why must it be Kaduna?

Again, you need to get the facts - they are upgrading an existing college ALREADY along those lines, not creating something entirely new. There is already a college in Kaduna that is being expanded.

The message this decision is passing to Deltans is that the Northerners own Nigeria and they can do anything they want with it. That is like spitting on their faces and telling them they can do nothing.

You might have a point in terms of perception, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny when examined in detail. The numerous examples I have given of institutions in the ND show already that the assertion about more things being in the North vis a vis oil and gas is inaccurate. The overwhelming majority of oil and gas institutions and colleges, including international ones remain in the ND and cannot be moved.

Lets even digress a bit - the issues around building a refinery in Kaduna have not reoccurred because in the NIPP, almost all the power stations are located in the Delta and the local communities will be the first beneficiaries before anyone else.

I do like your arguments but sometimes you forget to balance technicality with reason.

If we are arguing about perception, then fine, it can be perceived wrongly. But when I am talking with educated and informed people, I expect them to be able to separate perception from reality. The main flaw of the FG action is a failure to highlight what has been done and continues to be done in the ND, but rather has allowed the matter to be defined as simply a downgrade of the University status and a building of another institute elsewhere. This interpretation is not the reality on the ground, hence my efforts to display copious information on the actual state of things.

No shaking,, If dem like make dey carry shell and Chevron HQ go Kano we no send dem ,


But the reality remain that na for the NigerDelta na im the Oil dey flow pass so any time we feel like we go blow pipeline. Dem think say na for Kaduna dem go begin dey physically cart our oil dey go? See bombing!!!

debosky:

If we are arguing about perception, then fine, it can be perceived wrongly. But when I am talking with educated and informed people, I expect them to be able to separate perception from reality. The main flaw of the FG action is a failure to highlight what has been done and continues to be done in the ND, but rather has allowed the matter to be defined as simply a downgrade of the University status and a building of another institute elsewhere. This interpretation is not the reality on the ground, hence my efforts to display copious information on the actual state of things.

What is the reality on ground?

The last time I visited warri (January 2009), I was a sign post that said " Permanent site for the Federal University of petroleum Resources" some where close to Effurun.

PTI was designated as a Take-off campus of the university.
Rilwanu Lukman should come out with the FG's real intention.

It's actions like this that gave rise to all these militancy in the first place

It's actions like this that gave rise to all these militancy in the first place

ThinkRait:


What is the reality on ground?

The reality on the ground is that close to 14bn had been spent on PTI in realigning it with it's original vision - top class middle level manpower for the oil and gas industry in Nigeria and beyond. I have not seen any justification for the University idea beyond the general craze in Nigeria to have universities everywhere, regardless of whether that was the solution to the lack of skilled manpower at specific levels.

The last time I visited warri (January 2009), I was a sign post that said " Permanent site for the Federal University of petroleum Resources" some where close to Effurun.

PTI was designated as a Take-off campus of the university.

This action has been canceled so that PTI retains it's vision and mission and is better organised and to fulfill it's aims and not become another University with all the associated problems they have at the moment.

Rilwanu Lukman should come out with the FG's real intention.

The intent is clear:

“the people who run the economy of a country are not necessarily people with degrees from universities. This is why we give emphasis to the PTI to train people that we need. Our oil industries are suffering because we don’t have the right manpower.

And here you are talking about converting an institute which has been set up precisely to train people that we need into a university that will train people that we don’t need. How?

1. We do not need more universities - they are a waste of resources as we have more than enough already. What we need are specialised institutions such as the PTI with an undiluted vision and a highly focused organisation geared at producing specific manpower requirements for the oil and gas industry.

2. In line with building focused institutions with clearly defined aims and objectives, it makes sense to upgrade an existing college of studies into an institute of policy and strategic studies and pull it out of the NNPC which has not really been that good in utilising it. That way, you have two organisations with clear aims complementing each other and both working towards the greater goal of empowering people to run our oil and gas business from top to bottom.

@Debosky

Is the problem with the Nigerian oil and gas sector lack of quality managers?

If the "upgrade" of PTI isnt necessary, then we dont need a petroleum institute anywhere in Nigeria.

IPS in Port Harcourt is a TotalFina Elf initiative, not a federal government initiative.

Where are the "experts" trained by PTDF through its overseas scholarship scheme?
Where are the hundreds of M. Sc. holders trained in Nigerian universities.


Why is Northern development concentrated in Kaduna/ Kano?

Debosky, U cant justify the decision of Rilwanu Lukman so dont even try.

ThinkRait:

@Debosky

Is the problem with the Nigerian oil and gas sector lack of quality managers?

It is one of the problems - after people have spent years in an organisation, how you you keep them focused on driving performance and growth?

If the "upgrade" of PTI isnt necessary, then we dont need a petroleum institute anywhere in Nigeria.

False - the 'upgrade' to a University was not even backed by any rational reasoning, except as an 'appeasement' action, which would in the end be detrimental to PTI. PTI has a specific goal and is being retooled to achieve that. PTI was never and has never been designed as the be all end all of all oil and gas related discourse or training.

IPS in Port Harcourt is a TotalFina Elf initiative, not a federal government initiative.

Part true - the NNPC is also involved in the IPS, so is the University of Port Harcourt, a Federal University, so by extension the FG is involved.

Where are the "experts" trained by PTDF through its overseas scholarship scheme?
Where are the hundreds of M. Sc. holders trained in Nigerian universities.

Address those questions to the PTDF.

Why is Northern development concentrated in Kaduna/ Kano?

In general or specifically related to oil and gas? Population, historical trade and enterprise has always been centered in that axis. In any case, are we looking at the historical reasons for doing everything or focusing on the issue at hand?

An existing college in Kaduna is being upgraded, that is the pertinent fact. PTI has a mandate that it was created to meet and has been retooled/is being retooled to meet that mandate and will not be distracted from that by creating a University.

There are more than enough university graduates in Nigeria as it is to satisfy the oil and gas industry, we don't need to produce more than we currently are producing. What we need is middle/low level manpower to do the jobs that Fillipinos, Chinese and Europeans are currently brought in to do for us. Blue collar jobs are where we are severly lacking, not in office dwelling execs - ask the likes of Shell and they will tell you, with the hundreds of thousands of applications received yearly.

Debosky, U cant justify the decision of Rilwanu Lukman so dont even try.

It can be justified - We don't need an 'oil and gas' university, we are pursuing a strategy within the PTDF of empowering centers of excellence all over Nigeria in EXISTING universities both within and outside the Delta to supply the University Grade manpower needs. We don't need another University.

The Institute is following on in the footsteps of stand alone institutes like the NIPSS Kuru, the Public Service Institute and other such bodies focused on strategy development and policy formulation. Location is not the key determinant for such institutes as they can be anywhere within the country.

@ Debosky

Keep trying to do the PR job for this administration,PTI was never meant to be the be all and end all,yes,that was the reason for the upgrade
In any case,whatever the intention of the FG for this action,the timing is critically wrong and speaks volume of how insensitive this administration is

rasputinn:

@ Debosky

Keep trying to do the PR job for this administration,PTI was never meant to be the be all and end all,yes,that was the reason for the upgrade
In any case,whatever the intention of the FG for this action[b],the timing is critically wrong and speaks volume of how insensitive this administration is[/b]

I agree with this 100%. But even at that, let us not lose sight of the underlying facts here - that is all I am trying to do.

There are series of meetings going on in Asaba as we speak and the governors (who by the way have always been and are still scared stiff of the militants) are now saying they are considering pulling out of the amnesty deal of the FG,citing percieved insincerity on the part of the FG as demonstrated by this PTI upgrade reversal

The governors just needed an excuse to capitulate again and resume the monthly payments of hundreds of millions of naira to the militants and the FG just handed them a darn good reason.

So let's all brace hard for more acts of economic sabotage that could grind the national economy to a halt

rasputinn:

There are series of meetings going on in Asaba as we speak and the governors (who by the way have always been and are still scared stiff of the militants) are now saying they are considering pulling out of the amnesty deal of the FG,citing percieved insincerity on the part of the FG as demonstrated by this PTI upgrade reversal

The governors just needed an excuse to capitulate again and resume the monthly payments of hundreds of millions of naira to the militants and the FG just handed them a darn good reason.

So let's all brace hard for more acts of economic sabotage that could grind the national economy to a halt

Whenever political sentiments are allowed to cloud the focus and intent of institutions, we will have these things emerging.

It will be idiotic for anyone to regard the FG's action of spending 14bn on an institute in Kaduna (after spending 17bn on the PTI, [i]additional [/i]expenditure, not counting what was there before) as a reason to pull out of the amnesty deal which never included this in the first place.

State governors collecting and frittering away billions monthly that could replicate the NIPPSS in months if they wanted to cannot be trusted on this matter.

vey shocking! do we still practise democracy in this bedeviled country? is there any thing like checks and balances? if yes, does it mean the legilative and the judiciary are in support of this nepotic moves?
MEND, IYC, MOSOP,etc must here this. it is not enough to grant amnesty. Yar', anithing and luke, rubish should understand that when they leave the sit, another person must take over.
why should a sensible investor locate his industry where the raw material will never be found. are they trying to tell the country that it easy to study in kaduna than in delta state. this yar'a, zeroooo should not be carried away by northern sentiment. he is not there for northerners only but for the whole nigeria.
i am dissappointed at every thing that comes out from yar, aboki. it is not his fault alone. if those in the assembly does not check him, he is bound to make other unpatriotic move. Yar', history is watching

debosky:

This is irrelevant - retreats are held in varying parts of the country and Kaduna is at best an hour flight away from anywhere in the Delta. People fly to London to study and go to remote locations for retreats, so what is this cost of personnel thing about?
How can you judge confidence on the basis of ONE investment? Is that not a myopic view? Is this the ONLY institute out there? What about the POLYTECHNIC in Bayelsa? What about the NATIONAL TECHNICAL INSTITUTE FOR GAS in Bonny? The NTI alone has an investment of ~4bn, is it not relevant? 

Again more falsehood - there is a petrochemical plant in Warri, Brass LNG is being built in the ND, so is Escravos GTL. The Eleme Petrochemical is in the ND, so is PHRC, so is Nigeria LNG - the petrochemical complex argument holds no water.
It is getting investments with numerous examples - the IPS in Port Harcourt, the NIT in Bonny, the PTI being refurbished, the Polytechnic in Bayelsa - there are numerous examples of investments. This ONE case is not any indicator that investment is being denied the ND. It will be ridiculous to expect EVERY investment to be there.

Debosky, there is an issue in Nigeria, and the issue is that a lot of us do no understand the issue of the Niger Delta.

See the links below, the so called investments you mentioned ie Brass LNG is a joint venture project and it has to do with exploration and as at February has not even been fully agreed with all parties. Excravos GTL, Gas to Liquid geeze how can you sight such examples becos i used the word petrochemical complex in the context of the debate did you not understand the point.

http://www.lngpedia.com/total-no-decision-yet-on-brass-lng/

The Excravos GTL again is an exploration complex.
http://www.hydrocarbons-technology.com/projects/escravos/


You have provided exploration projects as petrochemical complexes and tried to insinuate that since they are in Warri then what is the issue of having KPRC in Kaduna. Okay let me rephrase since the intent of my statement is being diverted. Why cant the government site Excravos GTL in Kaduna? If you can educate us on this i rest my case.

I am not judging confidence by the sighting of one school but my the total gesture of the governemnt it is an insincere one and from all its actions including this it is obvious. Please allow me to digress a bit frst it was the mantra of rule of law but we have seen that it is only applicable when it sooths the govt. Now a project that the end result can empower a people is been taking away. Your example of retreats and flying to venues for training etc again re-enforces comparative cost, i am not saying it can not be done but it is more expensive vis a vis an option of siting in the same place , comparative cost. I really dont get all this anymore.

My firend it is you that is trying to introduce false hood into this debate, those examples are not investments per say they are exploratory activities (forced investment) and are only there because of the availability of the natuaral resource. A lack of indepth understanding of isses is really obvious now. The government needs to properly legislate those explorative activities you mentioned, these projects and such activities are the whole issue of the agitation, the companies get away with anything as close as murder. Go to the villages for yourself and lets stop this comfort discussion. If you are interested i can send you journals that will inform you a bit more.

The government can as well sight Excravos in Sokoto?

away4real:

Debosky, there is an issue in Nigeria, and the issue is that a lot of us do no understand the issue of the Niger Delta.

I agree - you show glimpses of this as well.

See the links below, the so called investments you mentioned ie Brass LNG is a joint venture project and it has to do with exploration and as at February has not even been fully agreed with all parties. Excravos GTL, Gas to Liquid geeze how can you sight such examples becos i used the word petrochemical complex in the context of the debate did you not understand the point.

First of all, Brass LNG has NOTHING to do with Exploration any more than a refinery does. It is a liquefaction plant and can be built almost anywhere as long as there is access to gas (either by long pipeline) and a means of export (coastal access).

http://www.lngpedia.com/total-no-decision-yet-on-brass-lng/

The Excravos GTL again is an exploration complex.
http://www.hydrocarbons-technology.com/projects/escravos/

Escravos is not an exploration complex - please educate yourself. It is an GTL processing plant that will convert gas to liquids using chemical processes (petrochemical conversion process).

You have provided exploration projects as petrochemical complexes and tried to insinuate that since they are in Warri then what is the issue of having KPRC in Kaduna. Okay let me rephrase since the intent of my statement is being diverted. Why cant the government site Excravos GTL in Kaduna? If you can educate us on this i rest my case.

Again, this is wrong - an LNG is a petrochemical facility, it involves processing and separation of petroleum raw materials, ditto the GTL project.

In any case, without even considering ANY of those examples, Warri has the Warri Refining and Petrochemical Plant http://www.nnpcgroup.com/nnpc-group/wrpc

So your assertion that there is no petrochemical plant in Warri is inaccurate.

I am not judging confidence by the sighting of one school but my the total gesture of the governemnt it is an insincere one and from all its actions including this it is obvious. Please allow me to digress a bit frst it was the mantra of rule of law but we have seen that it is only applicable when it sooths the govt. Now a project that the end result can empower a people is been taking away. Your example of retreats and flying to venues for training etc again re-enforces comparative cost, i am not saying it can not be done but it is more expensive vis a vis an option of siting in the same place , comparative cost. I really dont get all this anymore.

Well I don't see how another university empowers the people in a way the existing ones cannot. We DO NOT need more universities - show me one piece of evidence that this would 'empower' people more than an institution (PTI)  designed to get them in by providing the NEEDED skills.

My firend it is you that is trying to introduce false hood into this debate, those examples are not investments per say they are exploratory activities (forced investment) and are only there because of the availability of the natuaral resource. A lack of indepth understanding of isses is really obvious now. The government needs to properly legislate those explorative activities you mentioned, these projects and such activities are the whole issue of the agitation, the companies get away with anything as close as murder. Go to the villages for yourself and lets stop this comfort discussion. If you are interested i can send you journals that will inform you a bit more.

Send me journals if you like, I am always keen to learn. Again, I have given you examples - you do[b] not need[/b] to site a GTL plant on the coast, except you want to export products, it can be sited anywhere as long as you can pipe gas to it. THe WRPC exists right in Warri, not mentioning Eleme as well so there ARE petrochemical plants in the delta even if you decide to discount all my examples.

Be careful when you use terms - an LNG plant or a GTL plant can never be regarded as an exploratory facility. Exploratory facilities are the ones that produce oil and gas such as platforms, rigs, FPSOs or onshore wells and associated facilities.

They are processing facilities for converting oil and gas products into more useful/transportable forms just like a petrochemical plant. As earlier shown, there is copious evidence of petrochemical complexes in the Delta, including the fertilizer company.

debosky:

I agree - you show glimpses of this as well.

First of all, Brass LNG has NOTHING to do with Exploration any more than a refinery does. It is a liquefaction plant and can be built almost anywhere as long as there is access to gas (either by long pipeline) and a means of export (coastal access).

Escravos is not an exploration complex - please educate yourself. It is an GTL processing plant that will convert gas to liquids using chemical processes (petrochemical conversion process).

Again, this is wrong - an LNG is a petrochemical facility, it involves processing and separation of petroleum raw materials, ditto the GTL project.

In any case, without even considering ANY of those examples, Warri has the Warri Refining and Petrochemical Plant http://www.nnpcgroup.com/nnpc-group/wrpc

So your assertion that there is no petrochemical plant in Warri is inaccurate.

Well I don't see how another university empowers the people in a way the existing ones cannot. We DO NOT need more universities - show me one piece of evidence that this would 'empower' people more than an institution (PTI)  designed to get them in by providing the NEEDED skills.
Send me journals if you like, I am always keen to learn. Again, I have given you examples - you do[b] not need[/b] to site a GTL plant on the coast, except you want to export products, it can be sited anywhere as long as you can pipe gas to it. THe WRPC exists right in Warri, not mentioning Eleme as well so there ARE petrochemical plants in the delta even if you decide to discount all my examples.

Be careful when you use terms - an LNG plant or a GTL plant can never be regarded as an exploratory facility. Exploratory facilities are the ones that produce oil and gas such as platforms, rigs, FPSOs or onshore wells and associated facilities.

They are processing facilities for converting oil and gas products into more useful/transportable forms just like a petrochemical plant. As earlier shown, there is copious evidence of petrochemical complexes in the Delta, including the fertilizer company.

Debosky again you dont get it. Ok thanks for defining the academic details of the projects. Why is there not an Excravos in Sokoto, please tell us since  the projects can be built anywhere as long as there is Gas. Then why is it not been built in Sokoto. Again within the context of the debate you cling to the word petrochemical complex, i used that phrase to try and conjoin what the minister said about London vs a vs Dundee and Aberdeen. In simple terms those projects are sited where they are for economic reasons simple its close to Gas, its close to what ever is required.

It can be sighted anywhere, please build piplines from Warri to Sokoto transport Gas and sight a GTL plant there. Thanks i will be careful in the narratives i have never stated i was an expert and this debate is not about GTL but i totally understand the strategic intent.

Ok explorative activities is Gas but these are processing facilities for converting. Forced investment in the regions, Ok in terms of Universities is there a federal one in the state the whole of Delta state has no federal university, there might be too much universities in the COUNTRY but are there too much in the STATE, how many in the state.When will this attitude of cancelling the previous government policies stop, lack of continuity is what got us here and what is keeping us here.

Again i summarise, a policy might be wrong the best approach might not necessarily be to reverse it, the 2 could be re-aligned and in this case i think that would have been a better alternative. Maintain the old PTI and build a new so called high cadre if it wants to.

away4real:

Debosky again you dont get it. Ok thanks for defining the academic details of the projects. Why is there not an Excravos in Sokoto, please tell us since  the projects can be built anywhere as long as there is Gas. Then why is it not been built in Sokoto. 

Simple - the Escravos GTL is designed to produce liquid hydrocarbons from gas for EXPORT, hence it must be located at a coastal location else the cost will be excessive.

Again within the context of the debate you cling to the word petrochemical complex, i used that phrase to try and conjoin what the minister said about London vs a vs Dundee and Aberdeen. In simple terms those projects are sited where they are for economic reasons simple its close to Gas, its close to what ever is required. 

You should have simply stated that, instead of trying to make an inaccurate claim about petrochemical plants not being in the Delta.

This is an institute for strategic studies and policy - such institutes by their very nature do NOT have to be even close to the center of operations and there are numerous examples all over the world.

It can be sighted anywhere, please build piplines from Warri to Sokoto transport Gas and sight a GTL plant there. Thanks i will be careful in the narratives i have never stated i was an expert and this debate is not about GTL but i totally understand the strategic intent.

Now you're being facetious.  I was correcting a misconception of yours by stating that, in principle, these plants can be built [i]almost [/i]anywhere once you can find routes to get raw materials in and finished products out.

Ok explorative activities is Gas but these are processing facilities for converting. Forced investment in the regions, Ok in terms of Universities is there a federal one in the state the whole of Delta state has no federal university, there might be too much universities in the COUNTRY but are there too much in the STATE, how many in the state.When will this attitude of cancelling the previous government policies stop, lack of continuity is what got us here and what is keeping us here.

As far as I know, the declaration of University was in name only and no funds had been voted for this purpose. In that sense, this is the best time to stop the mistake and take corrective action. Granted there are no Federal Universities in Delta state, but must PTI's vision be distorted just to create a Federal University?  Note that Delta and Edo were once one and had UNIBEN as the Federal University.

I am not against establishing a Federal University in Delta State, in fact I am all for it. But I am very aware of the ridiculous issues that eventually affect 'Federal Universities' such as quota, catchment area and the like, versus a strictly focused Institute like the PTI removed from all that noise and able to focus on it's mandate.

Again i summarise, a policy might be wrong the best approach might not necessarily be to reverse it, the 2 could be re-aligned and in this case i think that would have been a better alternative. Maintain the old PTI and build a new so called high cadre if it wants to.

Can you give me ONE reason why the old policy made sense apart from to build a 'federal university' in Delta State? Is that reason to essentially destroy the vision around PTI to bring about middle/low level manpower development of Nigerians? 

Even the polytechnics in Nigeria want to become 'universities' so they can award BSc. degrees and be 'equal' with others in competing for white collar jobs that are VERY FEW in the oil and gas industry.

What does 're-aligning' of the policy mean to you? 

My advice to the FG is to establish a separate University in Delta state if needed  the PTI is far too precious to get caught up in the rest of the mess we have with Universities - it should retain it's unique status and continue to develop in that line. Business analysts will tell you that most of the time, once an organisation goes beyond what it is best at doing (i.e. it's core competencies) it is bound to fail. Let the PTI keep doing what it's doing and deal with the university issue separately.

human capital challenge ke, nigeria
14billion is a lot of money and can help revive the structures already in place to provide jobs for the millions already trained
these people self,this country is definitely in the wrong hands

[ We need a change in this country, ND boys need to teach this people more lesson, its really saddening that @ 49 we are still acting we need to stop living and start existing.

Hey People do you know people here in actually do not understand what this whole thing is all about, they think the presented is moving the school to kaduna. ie complete removing the school from here in warri and moving it to kaduna. my people why is that Nigerians lack this reading culture.

so what next, hope MEND have taken note of this steps taken by FG

For the first time on Nairaland, Debosky is talking rubbish!!
Even the smartest fellows have their bad days, and Debosky, this is surely one of them for you!!

Your line of argument, though sound and very logical, it is becomes baseless when you apply simple common sense.
There is no credible reason, why such an announcement to cancel OBJ's choice of Warri and replace same with Kaduna, would made be at a time of very heightened  tensions emanating from injustices on the Niger Delta.

This govt has officially declared itself blind and brainless!

Thank God for MEND, as they seem a credible antidote to all these kind of stupid policies!