pinceprinz:


My point is that if you must abort a pregnancy, do it before it can be said to be a grown foetus. Aborting a pregnancy is still legal before 12weeks of its cycle when it begets heart not.

faites:
If this girl had sold this baby to a childless couple, people here would still castigate and call her wicked.

Kay17:


What family planning methods did you have in mind?

fortunechy:
any gal dts responsible for dis will never hear the cry of a baby in all her miserable life.

LaExpert:

A miserable life is when you have sex with different people and expose yourself to the consequences without being ready for them (STDs, Pregnancy, social embarrassment etc)...not when you abstain.
Young man, abstinence WILL WORK for you...and will save you from ALL consequences of illegitimate sex.

Forced abortion or not, women who abort face the same risk! They risk losing their lives and their fertility!

So, which world is unreal? The one you're in?
For your information, legality doesn't translate to morality.
LGBT is a crime here in Nigeria...and it is completely Legal in some other countries.

Now it has moved from consensual sex to rape.

benjibabs:


MrBrownJ & pinceprinz,

Both of you should stop deceiving one another. Because aborting within 12 weeks is legal (wherever) does not make it right.

What is the difference between the young fetus and the grown one? It is not the same baby?

Without the young fetus can there ever be the grown one?

If the young fetuses "WHO" grew up to become both of you today had ended up being sucked out of your respective mothers, would you two be here today to contribute your quota?

Do you even know how dangerous abortion is at any point in the pregnancy cycle?

I dare you two to watch the videos in the link below and still remain the same:

And did I mention that the first line of defense is the old fashion abstinence? and it is the only form of "protection" that is 100% guaranteed!!!

pinceprinz:

In my world, life starts when the embryo in the womb develops and differentiates into a distinct head and tail region and has started the basic Xteristic of a living thing acronym MR NIGER if u kwim... This life process is initiated in the womb, Its murder and sheer wickedness to terminate a life just cos its depending on you for shelter and food for a prescribed length of time. If u doing that out of fear poverty , Just fogerit! Its never a curse being born poor or giving birth in poverty. You will be whatever you wanna be if you can concentrate and carry on no matter how hard. The holy book promised, "to every single being is a means of sustenance paid in full" ...

Anyway, the bottom line is that folks should endeavor to jealously guard against getting pregnant when they know they are not ready to bear the consequences , If it then happens for whatever reason , then you gotta belt up to bear the consequences of parenthood. That's my position.

And yeah, to each his own!

MRBrownJ:

to me (and many other men AND women), life with abstinence is a miserable life...

MRBrownJ:

now here you are WRONGLY assuming that a woman who has unprotected sex automatically is a woman who has sex with different people (false!!!!!), who automatically expose herself to STDs (false again!!!!), that she automatically gives a damn about the social embarrassment (false false false!!!!), or that the sex is illegitimate (absolute nonsense!!!!)

MRBrownJ:

1) a woman can have unprotected sex as a virgin (or with the 1st man who ever has sex with her) and still get pregnant, and she would still have the right to want an abortion (if thats what she decides)

MRBrownJ:

2) many couples have tests to make sure that they are STD free, before they decide to have unprotected sex.

MRBrownJ:

3) again, just because someone doesnt want to have a kid, doesnt mean it is for social embarrassment. there are many women out there who just DONT want children (ask Oprah)

MRBrownJ:

4) a wife being pregnant by her husband, but not wanting any more children, could want an abortion, and the sex wouldnt be illegitimate, would it?!

MRBrownJ:

as i have told you earlier, people having abortion know the consequences of their act, and STILL go ahead and abort. so why dont you care about your abstaining life, and let them worry about theirs?
btw driving a car face the risks of dying in deadly accident, yet i dont see you abstaining from driving. having a home face the risks of being attacked by armed robbers, does that stop you from having a home?! there are risks everywhere in life, and each and everyone of us are aware of this, but this certainly wont stop us from living the lives we desire for ourselves.
if she was a prostitute and wanted to abort her customer's child, she would still have that right... whether you like what she does or not.

MRBrownJ:


sadly, you AND I believe that what this evil woman did is a crime by law, FACT!!!
while you believe that abortion is a crime, while the majority of the world DOESNT, FACT again!!!

MRBrownJ:

i am just giving you plausible reasons as to why people (even YOU) would selfishly accept abortion AND/OR plausible reason why this deranged women threw that baby in the dustbin... but hey, i am waiting for your answer.

MRBrownJ:

i am sure abstinence will work for me or anyone else, but we DONT want it, and this is our decision.... accept it.

MRBrownJ:


it is RIGHT by people who think like us, isnt it?!



lets see... an early foetus has NO heartbeat, doesnt breathe and have NO brain activities, while a baby does. if you cant see the "obvious" difference, then its all on you bro



is a car engine A CAR?! is a seed a flower? hell no!!!! unless you add important ingredients into the mix, a foetus/car engine/seed will remain just that!



lucky for us then, and unlucky for the gazillions that didnt have that same chance. now, imagine if every single foetus came to term, how would the world cope?! use your brain pls.



just as dangerous as driving a car at high speed, yet many gladly do it. let each and everyone live their lives, so long as you live yours. if you are against abortion then DONT HAVE ONE, basta.



i dont care about such BS propaganda videos.



good... make sure you practice that in your life, and let others live the life they desire for themselves.

benjibabs:


MrBrownJ & pinceprinz,

Both of you should stop deceiving one another. Because aborting within 12 weeks is legal (wherever) does not make it right. What is the difference between the young fetus and the grown one? It is not the same baby? Without the young fetus can there ever be the grown one? If the young fetuses "WHO" grew up to become both of you today had ended up being sucked out of your respective mothers, would you two be here today to contribute your quota? Do you even know how dangerous abortion is at any point in the pregnancy cycle?

I dare you two to watch the videos in the link below and still remain the same:

AbortionsProcedures.com

And did I mention that the first line of defense is the old fashion abstinence? and it is the only form of "protection" that is 100% guaranteed!!!

Kay17:
The abstinence crowd wouldn't talk about the failures of abstinence. When sexually active adults are battered by raging hormones, when Nature has appointed the age when we reproduce, who are We to deny such a natural process?

Besides abortion helps keep the population stable, we can't recklessly bank on abstinence.

gbaskiboy:
Op you have said it all, she is heartless

gbaskiboy:
Op you have said it all, she is heartless

Stupedinluv:
The man who impregnated her must be a shameless irresponsible looser


Sorry child

Kay17:
The abstinence crowd wouldn't talk about the failures of abstinence. When sexually active adults are battered by raging hormones, when Nature has appointed the age when we reproduce, who are We to deny such a natural process?

Kay17:

Besides abortion helps keep the population stable, we can't recklessly bank on abstinence.

LaExpert:


The abstinence crowd probably don't know its failures...because it has none, and if you think there are; you may go on to mention them.


Can you tell me of anyone that abstinence has killed or probably harmed in anyway.

Abstinence does it better.

Learn to appreciate good things...and reject bad ones.

benjibabs:


MrBrownJ & pinceprinz,

Both of you should stop deceiving one another. Because aborting within 12 weeks is legal (wherever) does not make it right. What is the difference between the young fetus and the grown one? It is not the same baby? Without the young fetus can there ever be the grown one? If the young fetuses "WHO" grew up to become both of you today had ended up being sucked out of your respective mothers, would you two be here today to contribute your quota? Do you even know how dangerous abortion is at any point in the pregnancy cycle?

I dare you two to watch the videos in the link below and still remain the same:

AbortionsProcedures.com

And did I mention that the first line of defense is the old fashion abstinence? and it is the only form of "protection" that is 100% guaranteed!!!

Kay17:


An individual in the motions of abstinence who loses control of his/her sexual urges and gives in to sex, is often in an unplanned situation without contraceptives or other means. Abstinence is as strong as one's willpower. And once such willpower falters, there is no safety net cos most abstinence crowd believe they will never fail.

LaExpert:


As reasonable as what you opined seems, it is still highly flawed.

Someone who is in the motion of abstinence will;
1. Most likely not get trapped in a situation that will make him lose control and;
2. Recognise and avoid situations that will make him 'lose control.'

Ones willpower isn't faltered, if anyone has consensual sex, then it is his/her choice.

Why do you think someone at the verge of a sexual encounter and learns the partner is HIV+, will (most certainly) restrain himself?

Or will you have sex with someone you know has an STD because you have a sexual urge?

It all boils down to choice.

ShutdownBrown24:
What do you think is responsible for the dumping of new born babies in our streets by some ladies, do you think the guy responsible ran away, the lady is wicked, rituals, give your reasons because dumping of innocent babies is rampant this days,even we have heard cases of married women dumping their babies with reasons best known to them!!What do you think?

Kay17:


Just the same way cigarette smokers willingly struggle to quit. People don't make logical deductions to have sex, rather it is a biological response. Humans are not cold logical cases.

That's why people have burning desires, don't you think so?

LaExpert:


Burning desires or not; it still boils down you making the choice.

Having sex is NOT a reflex action, it can be controlled.
No one dies from not having sex.

If that same 'chronic' cigarette smoker knows that next stick of cigarette will choke him to death, he likely won't lit it...despite his cravings.
If that gentleman knows he'll contract AIDS from that lady, he will restrain himself despite his 'burning desires.'


If the smoker truly suffers from addiction; Why do you think that same 'chronic smoker' will magically stop smoking when the doctor tells him further smoking will lead to dysfunctional lungs and death?


Must something wrong happen to people before they do the right things?

Kay17:


Don't burning desires becloud our judgments? In some people, they are able to maintain a firm control over these desires while others fail at it. Similarly addictions, most smokers know smoking is bad and injurious to their health yet they can't summon the will to control that addiction.

Our reason and self control conflict with our desires and emotions. We try to rein the desires to eat and have sex but not always successfully.

So your abstinence policy can only work for those with strong will.

snowheart:
who are you to say that..na she give her self belle..

LaExpert:


Everyone can actually have a 'strong will.'
.

Kay17:

So you acknowledge they don't but can, right?

LaExpert:


Everyone can.

You disagree?

Kay17:


My point all along was they don't have, which apparently you agree to. Whether they can, I don't know.