komekn:


Hypocritical -a person who claims or pretends to have certain beliefs about what is right but who behaves in a way that disagrees with those beliefs.


Let's get that out the way , because it's apparent you don't know the meaning of hypocrisy. It also alludes to double standard.

Statistics are not a stand alone component but converge with other variables. So for instance Ngole Kante may not have the highest tackle rate ,but is considered the best DM in the World, you can add Casemiro, Thiago, etc.

A measure of your quality is the amount of transfer interest a player generates among top teams. Ndidi in recent times generates none.

Football is time constrained and therefore HERE and NOW assesment is intrinsic to all performance deductions. We don't use. "recent years" . Last season Tega was outstanding HERE and NOW he is not , he may catch up but let's see, his value has dropped as a result. Football is impatient get over it and deal with it.

Injury is another performance variable that impacts on value performance present and continuous. If you get injured somebody takes your place and you may have to fight to get it back. Also if you are labelled injury prone or you take longer to recover, interest and value will drop.

What is hypocritical about these observations and deductions, this is the very nature of football ⚽. There is not one rule for Ndidi and a different one for everyone else.

So what's hypocritical about that Dr 2know.❓

Iwobi left Nigeria as a toddler to Turkey and then to England his nursery school, primary school his time playing Sunday football ⚽ well documented. Nothing in doubt.

Fred Onyedinma was born in Lagos some of you don't know but you put that ignominious label FB upon him. He got here aged 3. He played in the same Blackheath district team as Iwobi.

So can you show me the hypocrisy here please ❓❓

Will you apologize or your Ego will not allow you to do that.

mostob:
The main root of this argument is the insinuation that a 21-year old can pass MRI test which you blindly and biasedly (as usual) supported. You claimed ndidi falsified his age. Why did he failed MRI then going by the stance you supported? According to your assumption, Ndidi should be around 21 years old then, why didn't he pass the MRI test?

komekn:


You are changing the narrative shamelessly without restraint.

I introduced the narrative of the 2009 U17 supposed youth team as a direct response TO YOU and your misguided proposition. Not benji93

You presented a obnoxious proposition based on perceptive preference not substance. I then used the framework of that nonsensical proposition to show you how inept it was.

I then used comparison analysis with that same inept proposition. Using unscientific observation that it is quite compelling and you still cannot concede that Ndidi failed the MRI test and is definitely not 26.

You should not be so evasive , your question ❓ should be directed to me not benji93

benji93:
Oh no, I am actually not basing my argument on 2009. It was the snack. Just threw that out there after I saw what someone else posted. My main argument is based on the article and its references. How many times will I repeat this? Listen. Listen. Apparently, there's someone else willing to do the mile, at least it seems so. Hopefully, he doesn't get lost too. You and@Goodjoe cannot follow anything. Just jumping from A to D. Calm down. Step by step.

TheGoodJoe:
cc: benji93

O! ye academia, come furnish us with your intelligence beyond world-renowned Radiographers.

Odunayaw:
No misrepresentation

do4luv14:
Una sha like Vawulence for this thread ooo,

Make I sidon dey look

benji93:
You are the first person to answer this. Thank you. Let me digress a little bit. Do you realize there's no Sub-saharan African country in there? Why do you think they did not conduct the study on Subsaharan African countries? I mean we are the most guilty of lying about our age. Take a guess.

The current data justify extension of the examined population to other ethnic groups such as sub‐Saharans

Odunayaw:

Right out of that same research work. Didn't you see it?

benji93:
We will cover all of that, don't worry. Why do you think they didn't conduct an examination on any Subsaharan African country, given we are the most guilty of lying about our age? Ofcourse they referenced other studies. But their examination did not include any Subsaharan African country.

benji93:
You are the first person to answer this. Thank you. Let me digress a little bit. Do you realize there's no Sub-saharan African country in their study(I don't mean reference)? Why do you think they did not conduct the study on players from Subsaharan African countries? I mean we are the most guilty of lying about our age. Shouldn't sampling players from Subsahara Africa be the most important? Take a guess.
@Komekn, take a guess too.

Sampling my friend. Sampling. No Scandinavian country too. Why do you think so?

Odunayaw:
Tell me why. You must have an information we're not privy to

benji93:
They did not because they would be polluting their stats. I mean if you are well aware that they lie about their age, which means their chronological age as shown in a document is different from their actual age, you don't want to include them in your stats. You only select countries where you are sure their chronological age very likely matches their skeletal age, then you assume this standard applies to Sub-saharan Africans too. The bolded assumption is where there's a problem. Data whose source is unreliable and cannot be certified is practically useless. You would defeat the purpose for which the MRI was adopted. It would be a mistake, and quite dumb.

Do you understand this, and can I continue?

benji93:
They did not because they would be polluting their stats. I mean if you are well aware that they lie about their age, which means their chronological age as shown in a document is different from their actual age, you don't want to include them in your stats. You only select countries where you are sure their chronological age very likely matches their skeletal age, then you assume this standard applies to Sub-saharan Africans too. The bolded assumption is where there's a problem. Data whose source is unreliable and cannot be certified is practically useless. You would defeat the purpose for which the MRI was adopted. It would be a mistake, and quite dumb.

Do you understand this, and can I continue?

charlesemeka85:
bro this una mri test argument since last week don do na

It’s making here boring

Odunayaw:
As e no be Nwakali matter wey you fit put mouth, you say e boring

TheGoodJoe:


Attacking me will not help your course.

The point is simple. When Ndidi started working with Nduka Ugbade,[b] he was one of the smallest boys [/b]among his peers. After working with him for years, he watched Ndidi grow to one of the tallest kids.

He is sure Ndidi is a small boy and punches holes into the lies you are trying to spread. Try a better attack.

Odunayaw:
MRI major purpose is to prevent participation in the incorrect age group

For this reason it is administered to all races. Countries with verifiable birth data capturing are still subject to MRI. Why?

For example. Blacks from the USA. Even Abuchi Obinwa failed MRI even though he was born and bred in the US with verifiable documents

Were MRI conducted only for test study and not continued in determining eligibility for U17 tournament. Then you can fly your flag

charlesemeka85:
Moffi scores his 11th goal of the season

benji93:


Anyway, that's a digression.

Wait a minute, certainly referencing other good quality articles is part of good research, isn't it? It would be insincere to ignore that they actually collected conclusions from other articles and discussed them.
But before we look at the references, let's look at something else.

In the figure, you have a table of grades and average age. Here VI corresponds to complete fusion. This means that what FIFA would be looking for is incomplete fusion. If it's complete there's nothing to check. Once it's fused no other changes can be observed. It's a reasonable protocol if you ask me.
Do you see that complete fusion has an average age of 18.3 across those samples? Since this is the cap, it means that if you sample players that are actually 18 and 19 from these countries, with more of them 18, over half of them will pass the test. Remember 18.25 is still a pass. . We are still talking about Europeans/Asians/Arabs here. Also remember I have not included the standard deviation, as in +-.

Are you still following?

Odunayaw:
Glad we've moved past guessing why FIFA don't have SSA in it's sample

Yes, fully 18y/o are mostly Stage VI

Go on

komekn:


Using your subjective and perceptive led assumptive analytics, i.e. "was one of the smallest boys"

Consider the be picture of Ashley Young ,
was one of the smallest boys in Aston Villa therefore he is not 37 It must be a LIE he can't be more than 21

benji93:
I have never argued that a 16-year-old cannot fail the MRI test. Far from it, in fact, that article says 1 16 year old achieved complete fusion. 0.8%(1 in 130 players) of the 16-year-olds achieved complete fusion. Wouldn't you count that as an exception? What you look at are the averages.

Why did they not apply it only to us? Fair question.
Do you want FIFA(a global body) to apply it only to us so that you people will start calling them racist? That would be dumb. I will even join others in calling them racist. I may not be able to help it. We'll never admit that applying it to us cos we lie the most is fair. The sentiment would be more like, are they trying to kill African players? What's in the MRI that they are applying to only Subsaharan African players? Are they experimenting on us again? Endless. I would admit though perhaps this is part of the reason they didn't sample us too.

It's interesting that apart from the fact that F-MARC was located in Switzerland, which is convenient, it's also a mesh of three European countries.

Anyway, that's a digression.

Wait a minute, certainly referencing other good quality articles is part of good research, isn't it? It would be insincere to ignore that they actually collected conclusions from other articles and discussed them.
But before we look at the references, let's look at something else.

In the figure, you have a table of grades and average age. Here VI corresponds to complete fusion. This means that what FIFA would be looking for is incomplete fusion. If it's complete there's nothing to check. Once it's fused no other changes can be observed. It's a reasonable protocol if you ask me.
Do you see that complete fusion has an average age of 18.3 across those samples? Since this is the cap, it means that if you sample players that are actually 18 and 19 from these countries, with more of them 18, over half of them will pass the test. Remember 18.25 is still a pass. . We are still talking about Europeans/Asians/Arabs here. Also remember I have not included the standard deviation, as in +-.

Are you still following?