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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 6:37pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
krattoss:Even before World Cup they turn up early for camp. World Cup just increase their ginger. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:01pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
you can be blind to certain parts, and pick what you want to read. you got the message clearly.. you are just saying a bunch of nothings. forgiveness: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:03pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
yes, u should have known that kind of question is always expected on this thread na. Kog45: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:09pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
Joebie: Na ya intelligent answer be DAT, Mr inte? ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 7:09pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:Back in the day, I used to have fierce arguments with you about this incredulous idea of training over gametime. I'm at a loss that you still preach it as gospel. It is the same drilling excuse you made that has turned Kelechi into someone who has gone from someone with an exceptional ball control (in the U17) to someone who cannot even trap the ball without pressure. It's getting worse by the day. I remember I was among those who voiced out then that drilling is no guarantee for anything. I remember Chrisantus and how we used to wonder why he kept at the bench at Hamburg when he could have gone somewhere else. But if it were happening today, you would ask that he stayed because he is in the same team with the incredible Ivica Olić and Mladen Petrić in his debut season and the legendary Ruud van Nistelrooy two years after. But how and where did our golden boy turn out? I saw you cherry picking Sane the other day, but we both know that had Sanchez transfer gone through, Sane would have no chance on the back of Sanchez's form last season. Gametime improved Sane, not bench time. Delph is now playing a full back position but only the pressures of game time could have helped him thus far. I'm not in the business of cherry picking examples for I know that there is no strategy or tactic cast in stone. It might well be that the coach would throw Victor into the fray and he would seize the chance, and then we will see you attribute it to the drilling with Gomez but I cannot see you saying anything right now even though they've now been together for 15 solid months. So why not admit that drilling is no guarantee, and desist from using it as an 'encouragement' for any player to rot on the bench? 11 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:16pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
Joebie:Komekn's suggestion is a good one. All the foreign born players we have playing for us today were approached in one way or the other. What is bad in formalising the mode of engagement. Is it right to take Tammy's refusal and use that to filter others? Even when a lady likes you, she expects you to toast her. Some will toast you but a great number will not. The idea is a super idea. We've decried brain drain of our best minds to the developed World . Now is the time to brain gain from the developed world. Two way traffic. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:26pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
OPINION Can Tammy Abraham buck the trend for Nigerians representing England? 12:05 PM WAT Colin Udoh, KweséESPN After weeks of speculation, Tammy Abraham's future appears to have been decided following a maiden England call-up on Thursday. Abraham is one of three uncapped players named in Gareth Southgate's Three Lions squad to face Germany and Brazil in upcoming friendlies. News that the 20-year-old was a target for Nigeria has been the source of some discomfort within the hallways of English football, to the extent that the player found it necessary to make a clarification that his allegiance remains with England, the country he has represented at youth level, despite claims to the contrary by NFF chief Amaju Pinnick. This call-up by Gareth Southgate would appear to be a poorly disguised attempt to tie Abraham to a future with the Three Lions before Nigeria do the same. However, it's worth noting that, with England's upcoming games friendly fixtures, the door wouldn't be closed for Nigeria should Abraham feature for Southgate's side. However, the big question for the striker is whether or not he can break the hoodoo that players of Nigerian heritage before him have suffered in the past when representing the Three Lions. And there is quite the list. John Fashanu was one of the earliest England-born players who had a chance to represent Nigeria, but thumbed his nose at the then Green Eagles, choosing to represent the Three Lions instead. By contrast, London-born Tunji Banjo did opt for the West African giants. The late Ugo Ehiogu became the first black player to captain an England team in a competitive match when he led the U-21s out against the Netherlands. He opted to play for England, and ended up with four caps, all won in friendlies. Aston Villa striker Gabriel Agbonlahor also picked England, although he insisted that despite reports to the contrary, he was never contacted by Nigeria. He ended up with three caps. Striker Carlton Cole also rejected Nigeria advances, and finished with just seven caps for England. For Nedum Onuoha, it was an even worse experience. After making 20 appearances for the England U-21s, Onuoha rejected a chance to play for the Super Eagles, deciding instead to wait for a Three Lions call-up. That call never came. More recently, Jordon Ibe has been the latest player to snub Nigeria, despite an approach from former Eagles coach Sunday Oliseh. His international career has also stagnated at U-21 level, with the Bournemouth man yet to make the step up to the senior side. His international struggles ought to be contrasted, however, with Dele Alli and Ross Barkley, both of whom represented England despite having Nigeria origins, and have over 20 appearances for the Three Lions. Beyond England, the likes of Denis Aogo, Patrick Owomoyela (both Germany), and Stefano Okaka (Italy) are a few examples of players who have seen their international careers stagnate elsewhere. On the flip side, players born or raised abroad who have chosen to represent Nigeria have largely enjoyed international success. Manchester-born Efan Ekoku made 20 appearances and played at the 1994 World Cup, while George Abbey, who had a Welsh mother, won 18 caps and a Nations Cup bronze medal playing for the Super Eagles. Victor Anichebe made 11 appearances and won an Olympic silver medal with Nigeria, and could have been part of the 2013 Nations Cup-winning team if he had not prematurely called time on his international career. Former England youth international Victor Moses was part of that team, and not only won the Nations Cup title, but is on the verge of playing at his second World Cup finals. World Cup-bound youngster Alex Iwobi, just 21 and a former youth international, has already made 13 appearances, more than any Nigerian-born player who has represented England, and is looking like a certainty for the trip to Russia. Admittedly, England offers players a more professional structure and superior organisation compared to the chaotic Tower of Babel that is the Nigeria set-up. However, in the midst of that chaos, champions have emerged, while no West African-born talents have ever truly thrived with the Three Lions. In the end, the heart will do what the heart wants, and we will all have to respect Abraham's decision and wish him well. However, the antecedents are hard to shake off, and they don't bode well for Tammy. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:27pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
Joebie: Those are players I mentioned it's not a comprehensive list, there are others like Chuks Aneke, Fred Onyedinma, It was not necessarily recommendation but comparison and a questioning of a system that by passed these players. But for the midfield role I would be looking more at Chuks Aneke. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 7:31pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
Mujtahida: everybody wanna go to the world cup oo ![]() ![]() The likes od Ebuehi, Onyekuru,Omeruo,Kayode and Musa should make the best of this opportunity... |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:32pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
Just noticed the Director of football at Chelsea a former Nigerian international has resigned, Michael Emenalo. He has explained after 10 years as director of football he wants to pursue new challenges. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:35pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
I'd love to see recent videos of Aneke. Don't get frustrated if most of us here are still not convinced though you have witnessed these players firsthand. komekn: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:36pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
Good if it means more of our players will start going to France. komekn: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:38pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
Icon79: This is not intended to be derogatory but it seems you are delusional. I will not expand more than, please support your player but don't completely loose your rational head. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:46pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
Brain gain has always been my argument for all sectors for that matter -- not just football. But will some of us embrace the idea? The next thing they will say, "you think just because you come from America you will just come and chance me" Some of us based here even feel we are more Nigerian, and feel more entitled. Mujtahida: 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:48pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
joseph1013:The title of Chimamanda Adichie's first TED talk is 'The Danger of A Single Story' which expresses the same sentiment - although in converse form- as the ancient Latin legal maxim 'Audi alterem partem'(which means you must hear the other side). Adichie's has become a favourite metaphor I use in ringing the bells whenever I encounter narrow-minded, stifling fundamentalism in any form. The Red Indians have a very rich proverb that says 'it takes a thousand voices to tell a single story' As far as many issues in life are concerned it takes a thousand voices to tell the story, a thousand mind to understand it and a thousand heart to respond to it. We must be wary of a single story. I had to drop that write up because his views regarding players born abroad and all that surrounds their change of nationality were choking me. It's not black and white abeg. It's many shades with grey And we sure need an healthy injection of multifaceted perspective to move forward in Nigeria - even our economy is a mono product economy. At a time I was active in the political section on nairaland and I was shocked at the abysmal ignorance Nigerians, educated Nigerians display regarding very important issues like ethnic and tribal groupings. I was shocked to think this are their favourite topics but yet they have only very superficial knowledge about it. I digress. Back to football Sir. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 7:48pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
Omo, next time, if you don't have anything to say, please ignore me and move on. I do not engage in senseless name calling but better believe that I do know how to dish it out as well. Anyway, I will let it slide this time until it happens again. This is only a friendly warning.... O pari komekn: 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:51pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
SerVik: Millwall were in the championship the season before that and have been going almost back and forth into the Championship from League one over the past few years. This summer Millwall rejected a bid from Watford for Fred Onyedinma it wasn't just newspaper talk but a formal bid. Last season Onyedinma was a stand out player for Millwall clearly thier most gifted and technically adapt player. They got to the Quarter finals of the FA cup last season. Check the match reports on Fred Onyedinma again Tottenham. No standards have been dropped or compromised |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:55pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
Chuks Aneke's Highlights published May 2017. Have your say. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snmgGobtBD0 Chuks Aneke's goals published 2014: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju2L8GJkM2Y |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 7:57pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
Joebie:LOL. Did more of our players go to Chelsea because of him? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:01pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
@ bolded So very true. Mujtahida: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:02pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
No lol.. just sarcasm thrown at komekn. joseph1013: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:04pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
Joebie:The first wave of brain gain was from the early nineteenth century to the early twentieth century when returning and repatriated slaves from Brazil, Cuba, Sierra Leone came to Lagos and injected new streams of life into the town - in law, education, religion, politics, music, culture and even sports and galvanised the rapid development of Lagos into a vibrant, throbbing city. You remember Ajayi Crowther abi? We need a second wave. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:13pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
Yes I do but not the story. Mujtahida: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:24pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: You're the one bringing down the quality of this thread with this your wuru wuru snapshot because there is no where in transfermarkt statistic that showed Chidiebere Nwakali ever played as RB. ![]() You can only decieve the mumus. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:41pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
Mujtahida: One of the major things that boosts civilizations is the coming together of different traditions, experiences and knowledge. This has proven true historically and holds true today. America is a super power today because of its ability to harness the best brains from across the world. Nigeria has always had attacking flair (for the most part) but lacked defensive discipline and organization. Flair come from the way, we learn football. Organization and discipline are usually taught. Many of our players do not get that education early. Players like Leon Balogun, Aina, Ekong, Ebuehi etc have better foundations. The combination of local flair and organization could help us raise a formidable team, now and in the future. 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:44pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
komekn: I don't know what happened to Chuks in Belgium. When he was playing in Belgium pro league I suggested they call him for the U23 Olympic but somebody here preferred a bench warmer Ndidi in Belgium then to him. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:47pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
forgiveness: Ndidi was not a bench warmer in the run-up to the Olympics. Aneke got a major injury that harmed his progress in Belgium 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:43pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
ENGLAND: Championship - Round 15 ![]() Whoscored Nigerian Championship Player of the Week | Sone Aluko Reading 3- 1 Nottingham Forest Omatsone Aluko (Reading) Scored https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP4pBBq5ryg +Rating: 8.81 (2nd best) +Dribbles: 3 (joint highest) +Tackles: 5 (2nd highest) +Position: MR (4-2-3-1) +Duration: 90 minutes +Goals: 1 Tiago Ilori (Reading) UNLISTED Sunderland 3-3 Bolton Sammy Ameobi (Bolton) scored https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwb0x-3i5x8 +Rating: 8.20 (2nd best) +Dribbles: 3 (joint highest) +Tackles: 5 (joint highest) +Position: MR (4-2-3-1) +Duration: 90 minutes +Goals: 1 Derik Osede (Bolton) UNUSED SUB (Returns from injury) Fulham 0-2 Bristol City Sheyi Ojo (Fulham) UNLISTED(injury) Shefield Wednesday 2-1 Miwall Fred Onyedinma (Millwall) +Rating: 6.57 +Shots: 5 (3 off target/2 blocked) +Position: CF (4-4-2) +Duration: 66 minutes (started) Hull 1-3 Middlesbrough Ola Aina (Hull) Benched Fikayo Tomori (Hull) +Rating: 5.95 +Position: RB Preston 0-2 Aston Villa Josh Onomah (Villa) assists https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahMkTFi9O24 +Rating: 7.04 (2nd best) +Position: SS (4-4-1-1) +Duration: 67 minutes (started) +Assist: 1 Cardiff 3-1 Ipswich Dominic Iorfa (Ipswich) +Rating: 6.21 +Position: RB (4-1-4-1) +Duration: 90 minutes Tom Adeyemi (Ipswich) UNLISTED Burton 2-4 Barnsley Hope Akpan (Burton) +Rating: 6.44 +Aerials Won: 4 (Joint 3rd) +Position: CM (3-5-2) +Duration: 63 minutes (started) Ike Ugbo (Barnsley) +Rating: 6.83 +Pass%: 78 (3rd best) +Position: CF (4-3-3) +Duration: 67 minutes (started) QPR 1-0 Sheffield United Nedum Onuoha UNLISTED Bright Osayi-Samuel UNLISTED Norwich 0-2 Wolves Bright Enobakhare (Wolves) +Rating: 6.91 +Dribbles: 3 (highest) +Position: CF (3-4-3) +Duration: 61st minute sub-in 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:52pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
tbaba1234:Yes, that's why seaports have always been the epicenters of commerce, industry and civilization. This post of yours is the stuff of my dreams. I've often fantasised on how a Super Eagles blended with the traditional midfield and attacking flair of our naija born players and the defensive solidity and discipline of the foreign born would look like. Your observations are quite apt. We've always been an attacking team. I really want us to be solid behind and hence my desire to have the FB in the defence. We have enough fire power in the attacking department and perhaps if Joel Obi is added into the mix of the midfielders we would be team playing good football. 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:03pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
Joebie:The bolded should extracted, framed and hanged on the wall. Words on the marble. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 10:15pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
On Monday, Oghenekaro Etebo, Alex Iwobi, Olanrewaju Kayode, Henry Onyekuru, Chidiebere Nwakali, Kelechi Iheanacho, Uche Agbo and Chidozie Awaziem arrived in Casablanca just after noon, and were immediately driven to Rabat. Less than an hour after the crew of Etebo and seven others landed, Turkey –based defender Kenneth Omeruo and Israel –based duo of John Ogu and Anthony Nwakaeme also arrived at the Mohamed V Airport, Casablanca. They were also immediately driven to Rabat, where the team is quartered at the Golden Tulip Farah. Team administrator Dayo Enebi Achor confirmed to thenff.com that team captain Mikel John Obi, as well as goalkeepers Francis Uzoho and Daniel Akpeyi, are expected in Rabat on Tuesday. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:18pm On Nov 06, 2017 |
Kog45: I do not get your question. Are you saying Rohr should not have invited Chidiebere Nwakali and invited Lawal or Rohr should have invited both? |
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