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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 1:01pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Kog45: I hope so too. With the pattern I've seen, there'd be one slot preserved for those kind of players. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 1:01pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Icon4s:ha Ejide ke? are we that desperate? so in our 20 team league we can't find a decent keeper? sounds like hiring a mercenary because after the world cup he may go off the radar again or just retire finally. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:03pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
jihday: It is in the news. Hahaha |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 1:05pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
The bitter truth is what we have now is Uzoho, Ezenwa and Akpeyi. At Euro 96 which Germany won, Andreas Kopke was the goal keeper. His club was relegated from the bundesliga that season with him in goal. The Germans looked at the stats and realized that most of the goals conceded that season were not his fault and the outstanding blocks and saves he made contributed to his club not been too embarrassed in terms of goals conceded. He was chosen as first choice ahead of the great Oliver Khan. At the penalty shoot out in the semi final against England he saved Gareth southgates penalty kick. They went on to win the tournament. If it was Nigeria, will Andreas Kopke smell the pre world cup invite? In Rohr I trust to make the best decision in our goal keeping department. 12 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by M7even(m): 1:06pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Remember the golden generation of the Ivorian team. Compare them with that of the Egyptian golden generation. You will agree with me that the Ivorian side were always a title contender for the AFCON trophy. Pundits would have easily rated their arrays of stars to crush any African side. But there was a challenge for this Elephant side. It was obviously their GOALKEEPING. They were weak without any doubt. While the Egyptian team possessed core home based team, which was equally adept in every field. Not until there was a ripe maturity from the Ivorian goalkeeper, Barry if recall in the penalty shoot out before he was able to help the Ivorian side win the nations cup, at this point the golden generation of the Ivorian side had lost a core of its key players with the absence of drogba and others. But yet they were able to win the nations cup, with a more matured GK. Who saved and scored during PK. Shaky Barry really turning this around at that point made me value experience. I stick with Enyeama. Even as an understudy to the younger GK. Another thing is having a team is capable in every aspect and not leaving a loop hole to be exploited. We can say we have the team, but the GK is still much a worry that we need to resolve to have a Balanced side like the golden Egyptian team, whose GK continues to dominate affairs for the team. Even when he came back from retirement. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 1:06pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Icon4s:hmmmm, I want to believe it's agent and hungry journalist at work here. I won't believe it until the official list is out |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:16pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
M7even: Thank you for pointing this out. I love your example. It shows you are great follower of the round leather game in Africa. We need more of your contributions here. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 1:17pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Icon4s: Lol, when he tried dribble that striker and got dispossessed in the process. hahahaha! |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 1:18pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Sorry I didn't know he was called up for his DMF abilities which I doubt because at the moment we are over saturated with good to decent DMF. Ndidi, onazi, Mikel agu, shehu abdullahi too can play that role, if worst comes to worst Etebo too can fill in that role so I see no sense in c.nwakali's invitation if it's to play DMF like you claimed. Like you rightly noted I listed CMF because that's where we have an urgent need currently which I thought was the basis of C.nwakali's call up but if you insist he was called to be tested in the DMF role then it makes it harder to justify his inclusion TheGoodJoe: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 1:21pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Icon4s: He can't speak Spanish � 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:22pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
junnyjake: The second error was after Mubi Oparaku did one useless bicycle kick at the edge of the 18yards box and some how the ball got to Baruwa who now passed the ball to an on Rushing Yugoslav player and that resulted in the 3rd goal. Mubi also lost his place to Eguavoen due to that school boy bicycle kick. Bora said the World Cup is not for boys but for men after dropping Mubi for Eguavoen. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 1:30pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Icon4s: I've seen him in 2 LaLiga games and he was impressive. Made a couple of saves, no errors at all. Every GK has a weakness, his might playing against a striker that presses a lot. Ezenwa himself is not playing games, he's a 2nd choice keeper, we hardly access his consistency, the only difference is that we were forced to play him due to injuries. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 1:31pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Icon4s: Really funny game that was. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 1:32pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
BascoVanVeli:Does he speak Igbo with his teammates in the B-team? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:34pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
junnyjake: Have you watched Akpeyi at Chippa United? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 1:36pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Icon4s:yes thanks for the correction Willy okpara. How can he fail to impress when he wasn't given a chance to keep in goal for the senior national team. Apart from youth team level do you remember any time he was given a chance with the super eagles which he messed up? By the way Rufai was in goal when the Netherlands thrashed us 5-1 in that pre-world cup qualifier 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 1:37pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
junnyjake: Of course not,, they use Efik. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 1:38pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Icon4s:Ya, He's pretty decent for Chippa. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:38pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
junnyjake:Seems funny today but we almost broke our TV screens in anger that day. Nigerian fans of today are not near as passionate as the fans of those days. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 1:39pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
BascoVanVeli:Lmao |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:39pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
junnyjake: My experience tells me that club performance can sometimes be a contrast from national team performance. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 1:43pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Icon4s: Yeah, true that. Even my mother back then knew everyone in the starting 11. You need to see how silent the streets were whenever we playing, mirth/sadness afterwards. We've been disappointed over and over again hence our decline in passion. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 1:45pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Watching Nigeria vs Zambia again....Moses Simon need to watch his back. I wont be surprise if that dude miss the trip to Russia...Full of dribbles without end product. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 1:47pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Icon4s: So you would be more comfortable with a GK who is not only 2nd choice, but hardly play games for his club side. And wait for it, has a weakness obvious enough for oppositions to explore and punish us? We are not in a haste to rush Enyeama back, we want to see him play and assess him, so why should Ezenwa gain his assessment with the SE. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:51pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
chrisooblog: Yeah I recall Rufai was in goal but the whole team was poor that day. And I think he made a couple of saves that people were welcoming him back. As for Willy, he was far down in the pecking order. Even a goalie like Emmanuel Babayaro was ahead of him. Willy Opara, Willy Agbonivbare and David Ngodigha were in the bad books of Nigerians due to their poor outings at the under aged competitions. They were not trusted. We took underaged competitions then very seriously cos those were the only means to participate in the WC. Angus Ikechi, Emeka Amadi and Lemmy Isa that did well at their respective age grade competitions just fizzled out. The whole problem started when Ike was ruled out due to injury. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:58pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
junnyjake: Your first paragraph highlights why I said goalkeeper selection is not as straight as outfield players selection. You may bring that 1st choice Ifeanyi Uba keeper to the Super Eagles and he flops big time. Dosu Joseph was a third choice keeper for Plateau United when he represented Nigeria at the 1996 Olympics. BTW Rohr has not ruled out Enyeama's return. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:02pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
junnyjake: Ordinary Golden Eaglets will be playing and the nation will sit still. You need to see the thunderous jubilations when Nigeria beat Brazil in 1996. Never seen anything like it since then. An Olympic game match o. Not even the World Cup |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by terzurum5(m): 2:04pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Mujtahida:@bolded you de fear dem? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:15pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Icon4s: I doubt Dosu Joseph was a better choice than Emmanuel Babayaro. It was just another case of bias. It was more of our offensive exploits that saved us, not Goalkeeping heroics. Heck, Dosu chopped five goals in two matches in the semi final and final. However, Dida swallowed four against us. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 2:20pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:Mehn, Dosu was poor, really poor during the Olympics o. People need to watch the whole match and not highlights. Very poor positioning and ball handling. Lucky we had a good attack and luck was on our side |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:21pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Lazyerudite: I’ll say what I thought happened. Sunday Oliseh was very influential in the team and Bonfrere had a lot of respect for him. Oliseh is like a brother to Dosu; Dosu was influential in making Julius Berger sign Oliseh before he moved to Europe. At the time, Dosu was to sign for Reggiana and what stopped him was a national cap. Everybody in the team was very good. So, when Oliseh tried to influence Bonfrere (to use Dosu), it was easy because whoever was in goal, would do well. Before our first match, Bonfrere called me to his room; Musa Abdullahi and Willy Bazuaye were there. You can enquire from them what I am about to tell you. This is what he told me and I quote, “Due to reasons best known to me, I’ll prefer to use Dosu. I don’t owe any player for inclusion and exclusion from the team.” He said he owed me that much because I was mentally and physically prepared. I felt slighted as a young man and I asked him, “If performance is criteria for being in the first team, have I failed in this regard?” He said, “No.” I am not going to lie to you, I started insulting him. I told him to go to hell. Tijani Babangida got wind of what happened and he said it was for team interest. He was privy to what was happening. I called Dosu to my room and told him, “I want you to know that I will never hate you and undermine you in any way. I want you to know that I am human but my anger won’t be directed at you but Bonfrere. If I were in your shoes, I will take the chance too but I have everything against the coach.” He was okay with my explanation and we sat together after every game to analyse his performance. He told me to help him out in areas of improvement. After the Olympics, Sani Toro told me that Bonfrere told him that I was the best keeper but he kept me out because I was not disciplined. There are no hard feelings. I did what I did because of what I was at the time. If it was now, I wouldn’t have reacted the way I did then. I use these experiences to train my players now. http://www.punchng.com/sports/sportlight/oliseh-made-bonfrere-drop-me-for-dosu-at-atlanta-96-babayaro/ 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:22pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: You doubt? Bias? You will always have your doubts in some of these selections because you think selections are as straight as X=2. So 2+X=4. |
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