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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 5:50pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Joebie: What sport add-ons do you have? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tglobal(m): 6:02pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Icon4s: It was Willy Opara Didn't have time to comment earlier, but I was surprised when folks insinuated that he was overlooked in the national team. Willy was actually the second choice keeper in France 98 and took part in two friendlies prior to the tournament: He was at the LG cup and played the second half friendly games against Germany and Holland. However, he never inspired confidence in the fans - not unsimilar with Daniel Akpeyi. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tglobal(m): 6:04pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tglobal(m): 6:11pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Catalonia vs Nigeria (5-0) Check out the 5th goal at 5:19. Helps to understand why Opara wasn't the fans favorite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gOs1wIdAsE 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 6:15pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Mujtahida:Thank you.I can say it anywhere that our US 94 team were average but solid as a team. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 6:25pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
joseph1013:Without doubt the golden generation were better for footballing ability than the the present crop. recall I said we had average players with sprinkling of star dust (rashidi for eg). Just as you mentioned players then with their clubs I could as well do same with players now. The point is we have not produced in numbers players of exceptional abilities like some would have us believe. Apart from kanu for arsenal, amuneke, finidi at ajax, ikpeba for Monaco, Martins at inter, taribo at inter, Jay Jay at psg and later Bolton, aiyegbeni,(and you can see that I am lumping separate SE teams)how many of our players have played exceptionally for barca, for man u, for Liverpool, for Chelsea, for Madrid, for bayern out of the hundreds of players we have produced from when keshi opened the doors to Europe for our players and I am not talking about playing for a club but playing exceptionally well for the top clubs. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:26pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
terzurum5: But they rose up to the challenge and beat Spain and Bulgaria when it mattered. One of our major strength is our epileptic nature. You cannot predict us. We are fund of recording shocking results both positive and negative. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:29pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
tglobal: Men...that guy was terribly bad. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by owbabs: 6:35pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Nigeria Results in 1998 Nigeria vs Germany 0-1 Nigeria vs Yugoslavia 0-3 Nigeria vs Holland 1-5 Nigeria vs Spain 3-2 Nigeria vs Bulgaria 1-0 Nigeria vs Paraguay 1-3 Nigeria vs Denmark 1-4 Nigeria vs Catalonia 0-5 Was this team overrated or what? 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 6:41pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Kog45:thank you because i remembered that you once detailed their clubs and nothing spectacular just like today's crop. the most important thing is how they play as a team. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 6:41pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
OMG! I hate to go down this memory basement! zeal was/is still unmatched till date though. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 6:43pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Mujtahida:Thank you.US 94 team were average but solid as a team. The US 94 midfield is not better than what we have now,Ndidi of now is better than Olishe of US 94,Mikel of today is better than Okocha of US 94,our fullbacks were better than US 94 set albeit Iroha Ben though US 94 squad had better CB in Okechukwu and Nwanu but lacked the bench of today's team. Defenders like Uche Okafor,Emenalo and Ezeugu will not make this present team and Keshi has passed his prime meaning the present CBs still have depths in Balogun,Ekong,Awaziem, Omeruo In attacks i gave it to US 94 squad cos Yekini, Amokachie,Siasia,Finidi and Amuneke are just too solid than Ighalo,Iheanacho,Iwobi,Simeon,well may be Vic Moses can pull a surprise making the bench cos we still have Ikpeba and Ekoku on the bench. Goalkeeping i don't want to go there cos we have solid keepers in US 94 team,Rufai and Agbonavbare are just too solid even average Alloy Agu is better than what we have now. As u said we just need to work on what we have and the only way out is tactics cos only names that can decide outcomes of a match today are Messi and Ronaldo,so tactics must do it for us with the players we have now,it works against Argentina though a friendly match. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 6:43pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
tglobal: We were atrocious in the run-up to France 98 defensively |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Caspian22(m): 6:44pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 6:56pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Truidstar:you have only just made my point by not being naming any exceptional player in the mold of the players players you just mentioned - when it was our time did we produce pele, or maradona or guĺlit, or van basten or baggio or maldini or ronaldo re Lima? No. Wiĺl the chance come to produce such players? only time and chance can tell. but from the past till now average is what we are. Time and chance has not yet brought stars of exceptional abilities our way. am hoping for stars though in the future. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 6:57pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
owbabs:Yes very overrated team,this team conceded 9 goals at France 98 just to tell you Willy Opara was not that terrible prior to WC but the defence. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:00pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
tbaba1234: Catalonia was after France 98. Just wanted to point this out. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:05pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
owbabs: They were not overrated. Individually, we had a good team. However, we had problems when they came together. Keep in mind that we were banned from participating in the AFCON. So the players had not played together for a long time. We also had the problem of switching coaches. This also affected the team. The praise the team got was due to the quality of our individual talents. However, from the qualifiers, we had challenges getting good results. That was why the Spainish win brought massive celebration because it was a testament of the quality of the talents we had and what we could achieve if we get things right. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 7:12pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:Yes you are correct cos i have some pals that were in the squad that played that match,guys like Sani Abacha,Friday Ejedegba,Lati Alanamu. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:14pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
realpoacher:you see how easily you've been sucked into the fiction i have struggled to inject realism into? and thats why i say the dire impression being given is not in line with the reality. okay now, pray tell me out of the players in our team, tell me how many are not playing regularly in their clubs. it's a fiction to extend what applies to three or so players players out of 30 from which we can pull 23 to form the WC team. just below your post is a report on players who need a loan move. how many? just five. out of the five enyeama is not a member of the team, ideye and success are effectively outsiders to this team. that leaves just iheanacho and musa. all the rest are busy playing hard for their clubs. as for average : I am not worried cos we've always been average even at our best. The kwestion is can this average bunch get it done? so far they've not failed and I pray their winning mentality as a team be stronger than their individual abilities 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:17pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
junnyjake:out of 30 players only five could be picked for transfer because the rest are working hard every week contrary to the impression given by some. note that enyeama, ideye and success are outsiders to this average team. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:20pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
joseph1013:hahahaha. I am not a good gambler. I am only trying to say I don't think he would be sacked at least from indications but if you say so then perhaps you have facts informing your assertion. in any case dropping out first round is not what we hope for. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:35pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
owbabs: The team was not overrated. The real class in that team showed when they played against Spain and Bulgaria. What affected the team was lack of early preparation. We didnt take part in the 1998 AFCON due to ban as a result of political interference by the Nigerian government in 1996. We found out our deficiencies too late and we quickly tried to make amends by making some fire brigade calls. That team was loaded with individual quality but there was no coordination as a team. In that Catalonia game I think Amodu was in charge. Following the disappointment of losing 4-1 to Denmark there were loud calls for the inclusion of "Hungry" home based players into the team. We had a couple of strange names and faces that night. And we were trashed 5-0. We got the hint that home based was not the answer. I cannot forget the loud jubilations in the streets that evening after we beat Spain 3-2. We saw the highs and lows of Nigerian football that year. So many high scoring matches. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 7:35pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Mujtahida:Yes he can be sacked if he failed to make it to second round,forget his contract extension. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:46pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Kog45: Hmmm....those were some of the strange names that donned our jerseys that day. With the exception of Sani Abacha who was part of the 1995 Eaglets we no even know where them pick some of those other players from. Tomorrow now wikipedia will refer to one Lati Alanamu as former Super Eagles international and we go dey wonder when him play for us. I still Nova recall that Ojokojo own. Hahahaha. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:11pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Icon4s:My man France 98 squad was overrated.A team with players who have passed their prime, players like Rufai,Yekini,Eguavoen, Iroha,Okafor. Hope you remember we took injured Amokachie to WC,Oparaku was not that solid like Atlanta 96 even his club status was suspect,Taribo was a suspect all through,check Denmark match,Kanu not able to replicate his Atlanta magic,just playing like normal player,Finidi form had dropped,Amuneke not the real guy again,Okocha as usual continue where he stopped against Italy,playing to the gallery. The business minded guys in that team are Sunday Olishe,Adepoju Mutiu,,Celestine Babayaro while Victor Ikpeba, Wilson OrumaTijani Babaginda,Godwin Opara who are ready to prove a point where always on the bench,remember Ikpeba,Oruma,Babangida had a goal each at France 98. My point is this based on paper the players look solid but as a team they are not solid,beating Spain was one of those things and beating Bulgaria was the confidence of US 94. My man i don't rate this team. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:24pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Mujtahida: At least, admit you were wrong in the first place then we go forge ahead with the other two things you raised. Did we have players lighting up top leagues in Europe prior to the 1994 WC? This question showed you didn't follow the team because we had players lighting up top leagues in Europe. We had players lighting the Portuguese liga, EPL, Belgium Pro league and Eredivise. These were top leagues in the world as at then. The next is, are they average? If they were average, why were they recognized with individual awards? Even with all those players we achieved nothing, how much more going to the WC with some unfit and bench warmers? 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:31pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Kog45: You so right on points, sir. You really followed. I was mad seeing the injured Amokachi on the WC list and those boys eager to prove themselves left on the bench. E don they wey business and impunity reigned supreme in our players selection. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:32pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Icon4s:Yes very strange names but the same players held very in form Senegal team to 2-2 draw in Dakar,hope you remember. Sani Abacha was not part of Ecuador 95 but parr of home based Under 23 team prior to Atlanta 96.Lati Alanamu was a solid footballer but not that serious,he played for Stationary Stores and Rangers now in UK Oh Ojokojo was a well known to guys who are real fans of Nigeria local league in the 80s especially Shooting star fans. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:44pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Kog45: How can we define average in this context? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 8:49pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Mujtahida: Eti pari oro jare. That was the point I was making few pages back and had to give up when they didn't seem to understand me. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:50pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Kog45: All those Okafor, Eguavoen, Iroha that you mentioned were not starters in the team. Yekini was not bad during the qualifiers for the WC. We didn't see him as a player that will be an excess luggage in that WC. So nobody questioned his inclusion. Yes Amuneke and Amokachi were not at their best but some other players like Ikpeba and Babangida were in blistering form.Recall The CAF APOTY for 1997 was Victor Ikpeba. Okocha had improved, same goes for Kanu Nwankwo. Oliseh had also grown in status and confidence. Celestine Babayaro was one of the most exciting young LBs in England with his modern style of play and goals scoring prowess. Taribo was still solid and very dependable. Garba Lawal , Mr Utility, was at his prime. Wilson Oruma though over shadowed by Okocha was another young enterprising midfielder. Mutiu another utility player was also doing good. Finidi up to 2000 AFCON was still deadly not to talk of France 98. Our RB was the weakest point as Mobi Oparaku had not raised his game from that of a junior international to a senior international. About 70% of the Atlanta 96 team played in that France 98 WC. Something very commendable. That team underachieved in my opinion due to poor preparations. The quality was there. |
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