safarigirl:
your opinion is quite useless as well, my brother.

You having hope or not on Nacho's career is equally useless. The guy is good, your seal of approval is not needed, so, stop stinking up this thread with unnecessary pessimism

Icon4s:


Oga Kog45, we have always cautioned peeps here on names calling and I am sure you know that.

We are all wired differently. There are some people that find it difficult to change some things about themselves.

We have always preached caution and some level of restrain when we engage in certain arguments and with that most of us that have adhered to this have not had our Fathers or mothers insulted.

There are certain things we cannot completely eradicate from a public forum like this. We can only minimise such. No system is perfect. We can only strive towards perfection.

And to every member of the house it is very important that we respect each other's views. There is always room for criticism but we must learn to do that with respect.

DrKlever:
Well, It's just my Opinion. i Have the right of preferences. I don't Fancy Vardy's style of play. U may come over to London and kill me if you're vexed.

AIG07:

Ma'am, go through my post again.

Leicester's set-up was way different from what we know them with.

They filed out in a 3-5-2 formation with Vardy and Diabate(played behind) playing upfront. In another game Nacho will pair vardy. But this one, the strategy employed by the coach favoured Diabate.

Mahrez on the other has missed two of their last games prior to today's game and he only trained yesterday in almost 2weeks. So the reason he started off the bench is not far fetch.

TheGoodJoe:



Puel was back to his old self. Negative football. That was why he left out some of his creative force including Gray, Mahrez (although the City drama made the decision easy) and Iheanacho.

Diabate offers more defensively, that was why he was selected over Nacho. In a more offensive setup, Nacho would have been picked ahead of him.

The goal Leicester City scored in the first half was kind of a Greek gift because it prevented an early offensive change. We saw the introduction of Danny Simpson.

When Nacho came in, the harm was already done. Even teams like Barcelona with quality forwards have found it difficult touching the ball.

Finito.

Icon4s:


I think you are right. You cannot start a game except if you have 11 players.

I recall a friendly between Ghana and Zambia some time ago. Zambia had only 9 players. They had to search for Zambians anywhere in London. They were able to secure 3 Zambian students. 2 of them started the game while 1 was on the bench

Zambia lost that game 4:0.

So I think you must start the game with 11 players else its a walk-over.

jihday:
I'm disappointed that you decided to quote that post, obviously he started watching football in year 2010

komekn:


Firstly, it's not about positional rigidity but adaptability and versatility.

I noticed his attributes immediately on his debut and you should know them with your experience. Then consider the team dynamics and structural strategy.

I realised immediately that he is not a straight replacement for Mahrez but as in the modern game particularly with variations of the 4:3:3 the three forward players interchange and become strikers when suited or if opportunity arises.

You have seen Diabate he has come from French league two. And he is tearing it up in the EPL for them.

Last week the TV pundits dedicated a whole five minutes to eulogize about him.

kellycute:
let me not use harsh words on you. Next time tackle my comment not my personality. Use fact to tackle my assertion of nacho being the most intelligent super eagles striker of all time. Stop acting like a slowpoke.

komekn:


Actually he is not.

In reality you are because you do not look at the team dynamics and converge that to the team strategy and the managers approach.

But being an emotive fan, you cry Wolf.

I made this observation as soon as Diabate arrived and made it clear that KC direct competition was not Vardy or Okazaki but the Diabate. I was labelled a hater bad belle and unpatriotic.

Mickael2:



nobody is denying that. It was a horrible tackle no doubt but what I am saying here is that the ref not giving Matuidi a straight red isn't exactly a case of corruption as some are potraying it. TheGoodJoe's opinion here is that Matuidi had initially tried to injure Onazi, that is also my believe as a nigerian, but call out a french guy and he would tell you that there was no malice intended and he just wanted to win, doing his work as the destroyer in midfield and he could give reasons to back up his claim too. So you see that there are two sides to this same story, and whichever side the ref chooses in that particular point in time is not wrong, it was just the way the ref viewed it.

People seem to think that I am saying that the foul was fair or something, I would have sent him off if I am the ref no doubt, but the ref on the day had enough reasons not to send him off, thats the point

TheSuperNerd:
Still on Wilfred Onyinye Ndidi.....


He made a game high Five tackles, executed two dribbles, committed five fouls (really disturbed Aguero on two occasions and also did one on De Bruyne), had a passing accuracy of 76% and made 25 passes amd made 48 touches with the ball.

He also won three solid aerial battles.... Ndidi was f**king busy yesterday and had more passes, and more touches with the ball than his other midfield mates (Silva and James). He made more tackles too... The highest in the game. His aerial wins too were the highest in the game.

Of course he still leads as EPL's top tackling machine. Up from 109 to 114....


Ndidi is key to our mission in Russia. That first game against Russia will be decided in the midfield for the most parts and we have a real battle on our hands with Modric, Rakitic and Kovacic as our midfield opponents in waiting.

Ndidi's boundless energy, growing passing range (who saw that fine pass he laid on for Vardy over the top in that first half which got cut out for Ederson who was intelligent enoughbto rush out early enough to prevent Vardy from lashing on? It was beautifull from Ndidi...), top tackling, interceptive and marking skills and all-round midfield impacts will be key to complementing the genius of Mikel Obi and the Zealousness of Onazi (or it could be Etebo or Ogu... Depends... But Onazi it is most likely).


He is among the key young players Nigeria will be banking on to deliver the goods and shock the world in Russia. Our prayer is that he suffers no major burn-out and also suffer no injuries... Keep soaring Ndidi the rock. They call him the Octopus too for the grounds he covers in games for Leicester and we see same for Nigeria's Super Eagles including his show against Argentina.

Who else caught a glimpse of his reaction after his battle for the ball led to him feeding Nacho who in turn found Iwobi for that equalising goal..... I recall Sir Tbaba1234 caught a glimpse of it coz he mentioned it. When I returned and read back on the thread I caught thst comment from Sir Tbaba... He caught glimpse of Ndidi's show of outrageous passion in the GWG.

Watch out for Ndidi people... This is not hypes... It is just what it is... A special player that I believe will bring many years of smiles to Nigerians in the GWG and beyond... Enjoy his continuous rise to the top....

komekn:


I am suprised at your analysis.

The issue is Leicester will not out play city or out pass them. They need pace to break and pace to defend step in the new kid on the block. What does he have over KC one main ingredient BLISTERING PACE.

That's the end of the discussion, anything else is jara.

tbaba1234:


Mickael2 just criticises. I have never seen him take a non-critical position on any issue.

After criticizing Rohr before the Algerian and Argentinian games and predicting losses in both games. My guy did not even give credit to whom it is due after we managed not to lose both games.

jihday:
OK sir. no need wasting energy on you

Kog45:
Sir am indeed sorry if you see my comment as chiding but we need to encourage our leagues.

Kog45:
Sir did you know Morocco have not won any major senior cup for past 40 years plus

Did you know the starting eleven of Morocco CHAN team were made up from 5 Raja and 4 Wydad players.

Did you know that the majority of starting eleven did not played against Sudan in their last match and gave them fresh legs in the qtr,semi and final match.

Did you know Morocco played all their six matches in the same stadium.

Did you know other teams need to travel by road to some stadia to honour their matches.

Did you know Morocco was a host and they had massive support knowingly they have not won any major cup at national team for so long.

I'm saying this to tell you it's not that easy though not an excuse for bad performance but mind you we played Morocco in the final.

Truly our team struggle to the final without clear performance but despite that they made it to the final,some would say Ezenwa and Ajiboye played a major role in our performance but they are part of the team.

I believe we can do better next time,losing 4 nil in the final not really good for any team but i remember Brazil losing 3 nil to host France during France 98 final,the same Brazil lost 7-1 to Germany at 2014 WC even as a host,heaven did not fall.I remember our present Super eagles lost 2- nil to South Africa at home,so nothing new about it.

Pls this is football and it happens sometimes and we just need to take it and move on and plan ahead for better performance

Mujtahida:

At first I read the bolded as 'I' referring to you. I thought Haa when did Sir Icon4s become a Zambian. On second read reading I got the message.

MetalJigsaw:
THEY THRASHED YOUR TEAM 4-0. was it a disfrace or not , that's the simple issue. yes or no. the truth is clear for us to see bro

Mujtahida:

Nobody knows it all. Freedom must be given to all to state even nonsensical ideas. Yes! That's their privilege as human beings and no one has the right to stamp on their persons in the name of 'we must only make sensible statements backed with facts and figures(yes because there's a way a man's opinion or viewpoint is attacked and he feels it is himself that is being attacked). You are a science oriented guy. Isn't hypothesis an opinion? Some hypothesis are right, some are wrong. In the face of wrong opinions correction is what is needed. But to say that only correct

Are we going to have only white here and no black? Even a regime of sensible ideas backed with facts and figures is abhorrent to my soul.

Even if one cannot stomach 'nonsensical' opinions (mind you what is nonsensical to you might be sensible to another person just as it is often said that one man's rebel is another man's freedom fighter) then one can as well challenge it but how we challenge bollocks matters. It is not until a man is told 'wakaa' that he'd feel insulted

Iheanacho is not a god. I heartily support him. In fact I get pricked when he's criticised but I do not subscribe to our creating a gang mentality where everybody must have the same opinion. That is fundamentalism, that is totalitarianism, that is how terrorism begins. Even in the face of facts people are entitled to their opinions because interpretation of facts differ from person to person. Our fingerprints differ, our brain patterns differ, our voices differ. So also our views and opinions. Let's loosen our grip on the need to be right and be seen as right to the extent that we cannot tolerate other people's opinions.

And its not correct to say that those who queried Sir Icon4s' intervention are people who hate Nacho. I understand what Icon4s said but at the same time the undercurrent sounded like he was giving approval to the way liedetector was hounded.


We should not say welcome to people when we cannot welcome them in totality particularly since this is a faceless impersonal online forum. What sort of welcome is this: I welcome you but I do not welcome your absurd opinions. If there's no liberty for them to state their opinions whether backed by facts and figures how can we discuss, how can those with wrong ideas be corrected? Congo4ka is one weird guy but I like the way he was corrected yesterday. But you will note that others still said they liked him. That's how life is.

We've all been guilty of attacking each other here but I have soft spot for newcomers. They should be handled with more sensitivity. Only God knows the many number of persons who can richly contribute to this thread that we have chased away. Would it not be better if sometimes we ask people the reason for their 'absurd' opinions and try and engage them?

And even if an opinion is wrong it won't hurt if we endeavour to correct it with the patience and the wisdom of those 'who know'. Elyte89 reaction is typical. He doesn't hate Nacho. He hates the sacred opinions, viewpoints and facts surrounding Nacho and he's decided to desacralize those ideas and facts just to infuriate those who are intolerably Pro Nacho. In a sense elyte89 wants to save Nacho and free him from the consequences of dangerous love.

I should not be misinterpreted as saying that I approve absurd ideas. What I am saying is that we cannot dictate to people the ideas and opinions they should state. I state my own. That's my freedom. You are permitted to disagree, you are permitted to interrogate my opinions, to challenge them. You are even permitted to state your own contrary views. That's your freedom. Igbos have a beautiful proverb which underlies their republican nature: let the Eagle perch, let the vulture (note that the vulture is a clumsy, gruffy, ugly, absurd looking bird) also perch. The one that says taaaa to the other, let his wings be broken.

I am pro Nacho but anti - siege mentality. I will end by giving this short anecdote which ends with one of my favourite quotes: Jean Jacques Rousseau was writing dangerous books, espousing ideas that threatened government, the social order and many cultural norms in 17 century France. He was wanted by the government. All over France he was a wanted man. He had no where to run to. Finally he decided to run to Voltaire. Upon knocking the door Voltaire welcomed him with the following words which have become immortal: I do not approve of the things you say but I will defend to my death your right to say it.

Cheers and love to you all.

jihday:
OK sir. no need wasting energy on you

MetalJigsaw:
THEY THRASHED YOUR TEAM 4-0. was it a disfrace or not , that's the simple issue. yes or no. the truth is clear for us to see bro

Icon4s:


I was on the bench ke?

Well but since I have not been capped by Nigeria who knows? Loz...

AIG07:
hahaha... You wan dump the SEs for the Chipolopolo stars abi cos you no like our new jersey?

Kwontinu.

andrew444:
I just notice something about this thread that so many people hate iheanacho for no reason,but they are quick to praise others players who are not good enough,there was a guy even considering kayode olanrewaju for the World Cup list,maybe he think super eagles is the Somalia national team,a player that cannot make a girona team is not good enough for super eagles bench.

komekn:


I am suprised at your analysis.

The issue is Leicester will not out play city or out pass them. They need pace to break and pace to defend step in the new kid on the block. What does he have over KC one main ingredient BLISTERING PACE.

That's the end of the discussion, anything else is jara.

TheSuperNerd:



You see what I was just telling Mujtahida in parts....? Bia Oga Metaljigsaw.. I really don't get it. What do you mean by "Your Team"?

Aren't you Nigerian anymore? Are the Home based Super Eagles not our team again? Smh....

Clearly very disappointing to say the least.....

TheSuperNerd:



You see what I was just telling Mujtahida in parts....? Bia Oga Metaljigsaw.. I really don't get it. What do you mean by "Your Team"?

Aren't you Nigerian anymore? Are the Home based Super Eagles not our team again? Smh....

Clearly very disappointing to say the least.....

MetalJigsaw:
;DAbegii! I'm a fan of the real Super Eagles. Not the the home based crap team ;DAbegii! I'm a fan of the real Super Eagles. Not the the home based crap team

elyte89:




Its not childish, and samething goes to those who defends IHEANACHO blindly on issues relating to him,whether true or not!,Drklever as ur moniker sound,I believe u shld b CLEVER,y not direct d same question to d PRO IHEANACHO'S who love to call monikers names if dey av any contrary opinions concerning IHEANACHO,like say na deir P-MAN,dem dey defend. It doesn't make any sense eida


Since we av refused to be "CIVILIZED" and give "mature and sensible analysis to issues here most esp anything relating to IHEANACHO, den we re in for it....



I am still ON MY STANCE, anything concerning IHEANACHO (LEICESTER), NOT SUPER EAGLES o... I WAN TACKLE AM NI,henceforth,I pray dey field him Nextweek and wait for my comments on him

TheGoodJoe:


If Blistering pace is the key to success, Andros Townsend would have been the next Maradona.

Finito.

TheSuperNerd:



You see what I was just telling Mujtahida in parts....? Bia Oga Metaljigsaw.. I really don't get it. What do you mean by "Your Team"?

Aren't you Nigerian anymore? Are the Home based Super Eagles not our team again? Smh....

Clearly very disappointing to say the least.....