But you're watching it, why quote the commentator when you are also watching it?

Bolowolowo:


The commentator just said he's been ineffective

Oh, 45 mins things for him then. Rohr should use him as a super sub for the world cup if he can no longer do 90 mins.

CaptainStephen:
he had a good first half, has been missing this second half.

OMG Who just watched the Marseille vs Leipzig match? Amazing!!!!!! One of the best Europa League matches ever!! Trust me

somehow:
But you're watching it, why quote the commentator when you are also watching it?

I'm just using the commentator's quote to corroborate my statement. The 1st half was sort of lively, but it was a bad game for him overall. Dancing with the ball and then getting it taken away does not constitute as a good performance.

tbaba1234:
Iwobi misses a good chance... Iwobi haters will have that on replay even though he has been very good since coming on...

Why is it on this forum when a player is criticised the person is tagged a HATER, Why It doesn't make any sense, the very nature of football is characterised by a continuous shift between praise and criticism. When you play well you get praised when you don't play well and or below you are rightly criticised, this is normal.

So lets look at Iwobi , R Winger and or AM, how many games as he played, how many assists and how many goals has he scored , is it good enough for someone who we feel is at least on this forum is top class player. Is he the answer to our much needed AM options

Today he missed a sitter under no pressure, football is no longer about show boating, drag backs and step overs but effective end product. For this reason as AM i would say he is behind Ramsey, Wilshire and Ozil who are a lot older than him.

In my opinion he was just OK not exceptional in order for him to progress to the next level he needs to improve dramatically on hid finishing its simply not good enough. Donkeys ago maybe a year or more i had a a heated debate with TheGoodJoe and i told him the Ox was more efective and much better than Iwobi, i told him categorically that the Ox will go for big money and he will be a target of multiple clubs. On the othr hand Iwobi will struggle comparatively to generate similar interest.

I am concerned if he does not up his game and or Wenger leaves Arsenal he could find himself struggling in the Championship, I feel complacency may have creeped into his game.

Bolowolowo:


I'm just using the commentator's quote to corroborate my statement. The 1st half was sort of lively, but it was a bad game for him overall. [b]Dancing with the ball [/b]and then getting it taken away does not constitute as a good performance.

There is a cultural issue here, Nigerian are very much carried away with whole show boating thing, as you rightly said dancing on the ball as opposed to some may call boring clinical effective end product.

Football has moved on and we need to move with the times.

komekn:


Why is it on this forum when a player is criticised the person is tagged a HATER, Why It doesn't make any sense, the very nature of football is characterised by a continuous shift between praise and criticism. When you play well you get praised when you don't play well and or below you are rightly criticised, this is normal.

So lets look at Iwobi , R Winger and or AM, how many games as he played, how many assists and how many goals has he scored , is it good enough for someone who we feel is at least on this forum is top class player. Is he the answer to our much needed AM options

Today he missed a sitter under no pressure, football is no longer about show boating, drag backs and step overs but effective end product. For this reason as AM i would say he is behind Ramsey, Wilshire and Ozil who are a lot older than him.

In my opinion he was just OK not exceptional in order for him to progress to the next level he needs to improve dramatically on hid finishing its simply not good enough. Donkeys ago maybe a year or more i had a a heated debate with TheGoodJoe and i told him the Ox was more efective and much better than Iwobi, i told him categorically that the Ox will go for big money and he will be a target of multiple clubs. On the othr hand Iwobi will struggle comparatively to generate similar interest.

I am concerned if he does not up his game and or Wenger leaves Arsenal he could find himself struggling in the Championship, I feel complacency may have creeped into his game.

So what's d point ?

elyte89:



So what's d point ?

Simply Iwobi needs to up is game to move to the next level, he needs to get hungry for greater success.

Icon4s:


That was a nightmarish score-line you posted there .

From your statement it seems as if you started off with two DMs, which I would not recommend against a team like Iceland (no disrespect meant).
Mikel, Onazi, Ndidi and Iwobi are potential starters. It depends also on your set up. Are you currently on 4-4-2, 4-3-3, 4-5-1, 3-5-2 etc. If a team is chasing a game, depending also on the balance of play, the best bet is to pull out a DM and bring in a striker or Supporting striker/Wing forward.

we play with 2 DM, we will play 2 DM against Iceland

COOL10:
OMG Who just watched the Marseille vs Leipzig match? Amazing!!!!!! One of the best Europa League matches ever!! Trust me

Watching the highlights now was watching CSKA Vs Arsenal

tbaba1234:


Obasi was training lone without a club alongside Anichebe.. He had no club at the time.

Bebe was signed from a Portuguese team, meaning he could have easily been scouted..

He was a free agent in the summer not like is been long out without a team, alot of free agent got signed without trial

We don't have a lot of strikers in the big 5 leagues, and there is nothing we can do about it for now. Let's go for those showing promise and see if they can show the same quality in camp.

somehow:
But this league defending no be here at all..

komekn:


Can I add the issue of there is no AUTOMATIC BIRTH CORROBORATED DATA CAPTURE in Nigeria. We all know what goes well don't need to expand it.

Do you think European clubs are not aware of this issue. They but they are prepared to work with it.

And you think Brazil and Argentina are innocent of that, did that affect there exportation of players

komekn:


Good agent is not really the appropriate term but a connected agent. In my experience each club and it's manager will have thier preferred agent (I am being diplomatic). No agent will bring a dead player to a club. You will have to be good enough not necessarily outstanding just good enough. That transfer will be mounted almost in its entirety on the agents relationship with the manager and club dynamics.

No matter the agent Ogbuke will not find himself in the EPL or La Liga. The level he has been playing in recent years is simply not good ( Norwegian league) add to that his age.

In this regard getting to Bolton a struggling relegation side which really doesn't play good football and pay high wages. From Ogbuke perspective a good deal.

When i mean good agent I mean connected agent

Icon79:
To me, it was never a penalty. Benatia definitely got the ball before he got Lucas. A pure dive. In the first leg, Dybala was given a yellow card for diving even though there was contact. This time Real got a penalty on a platter. But even if you think that it was a penalty, you gotta agree that it was a soft one at best. And how could anybody give such a very soft penalty at the LAST SECOND of the game? Just send them to extra time and let the better team win.

And you gotta ask yourself, why is that every call always seems to favor Real? Semi Finals last year against Bayern Munich ... once Real started losing the game, two atrocious calls went their way. Same thing happened for them in the finals against Athletic Madrid! I have already initiated calls for Interpol and FBI to investigate UEFA. They are more corrupt than FIFA.


O pari

For me it was a penalty. Let's remove sentiment and forget the time it happened in the match ( imagine if this was to be in a LA liga match on the 60th minute with Madrid 3 nil up, would there had been contention?) and you will get a better view. Benatia didn't touched the ball and that was a definite goal scoring opportunity though it wasn't a red card and in these modern age were almost 90 percent of fouls involves simulation or let's call it exaggeration of contact, this was definitely a foul. The red card to Buffon was harsh.
I agree with you that Madrid have been very lucky when it comes to referee decisions this past few years but its just football if not Isco's earlier goal in the match would have been allowed because it was a very tight call. However I agree with u that they have been favoured by referee but I don't believe uefa has a hand in it.
I also agree with you that Ronaldo is over hyped. Anything he does even if he scores just a taping or pk it gets blown up but somehow he has a way of scoring in top games.

Has Aluko not had bad games this season? Never seen you criticize your preferred players.. it's not like they show quality consistently.

komekn:


Why is it on this forum when a player is criticised the person is tagged a HATER, Why It doesn't make any sense, the very nature of football is characterised by a continuous shift between praise and criticism. When you play well you get praised when you don't play well and or below you are rightly criticised, this is normal.

So lets look at Iwobi , R Winger and or AM, how many games as he played, how many assists and how many goals has he scored , is it good enough for someone who we feel is at least on this forum is top class player. Is he the answer to our much needed AM options

Today he missed a sitter under no pressure, football is no longer about show boating, drag backs and step overs but effective end product. For this reason as AM i would say he is behind Ramsey, Wilshire and Ozil who are a lot older than him.

In my opinion he was just OK not exceptional in order for him to progress to the next level he needs to improve dramatically on hid finishing its simply not good enough. Donkeys ago maybe a year or more i had a a heated debate with TheGoodJoe and i told him the Ox was more efective and much better than Iwobi, i told him categorically that the Ox will go for big money and he will be a target of multiple clubs. On the othr hand Iwobi will struggle comparatively to generate similar interest.

I am concerned if he does not up his game and or Wenger leaves Arsenal he could find himself struggling in the Championship, I feel complacency may have creeped into his game.

bengine:


It would be a risk taking Ezenwa to world cup if he doesn't fully recover from his injuries..he is most likely our first team goalie, he has barely played 3 games this year..God help us, this is not looking good for us at all..he would lack match sharpness and this is even an average GK at best...

Ezenwa going to worldcup to me is business, alloy agu and his enyimba connection doing there dealing, Ezenwa is not even the best goal keeper in enyimba

Joebie:
We don't have a lot of strikers in the big 5 leagues, and there is nothing we can do about it for now. Let's go for those showing promise and see if they can show the same quality in camp.

Don't how it has happened but we have regressed it seems, sad but true.

Martz101:

we play with 2 DM, we will play 2 DM against Iceland

Don't get confused.
What we play is a DM and a Box to box midfielder (CM).
Ndidi played the box to box role in the Serbia game. While Joel Obi played that role against Poland.

Joebie:
We need this guy to be fit.. This is a complete forward.
Paul Onuachu


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkC5bh4Yr7k

nice clip, good confidence

Icon4s:


Don't get confused.

What we play is a DM and a Box to box midfielder (CM).

Ndidi played the box to box role in the Serbia game.
While Joel Obi played that role against Poland.

Prior to that time, Joel is not our starter, use a competitive match for example. Nigeria vs cameroon

We can just sit back and not go to Russia, then cry about it.

komekn:


Don't how it has happened but we have regressed it seems, sad but true.

komekn:


Why is it on this forum when a player is criticised the person is tagged a HATER, Why It doesn't make any sense, the very nature of football is characterised by a continuous shift between praise and criticism. When you play well you get praised when you don't play well and or below you are rightly criticised, this is normal.

So lets look at Iwobi , R Winger and or AM, how many games as he played, how many assists and how many goals has he scored , is it good enough for someone who we feel is at least on this forum is top class player. Is he the answer to our much needed AM options

Today he missed a sitter under no pressure, football is no longer about show boating, drag backs and step overs but effective end product. For this reason as AM i would say he is behind Ramsey, Wilshire and Ozil who are a lot older than him.

In my opinion he was just OK not exceptional in order for him to progress to the next level he needs to improve dramatically on hid finishing its simply not good enough. Donkeys ago maybe a year or more i had a a heated debate with TheGoodJoe and i told him the Ox was more efective and much better than Iwobi, i told him categorically that the Ox will go for big money and he will be a target of multiple clubs. On the othr hand Iwobi will struggle comparatively to generate similar interest.

I am concerned if he does not up his game and or Wenger leaves Arsenal he could find himself struggling in the Championship, I feel complacency may have creeped into his game.

Ox at Arsenal was terribly poor and inconsistent... Or is another Ox, we are talking about? Ox had been at Arsenal for a much longer time and did not show the improvement necessary. Like Henry said, he could not point out one good thing Ox did well at his time in Arsenal. His transfer had to do more with his potential than his actual results.

The same holds for Iwobi, Iwobi needs to work on his finishing no doubt.. When i say haters, i mean people who ignore all the good he does in a game and pick on that one mistake.

Iwobi has a lot of great qualities and would thrive under a better manager, who can help him work on his weaknesses. Wenger does not do that so players do not usually get to that next level.

What's up with Ademola Lookman, Komekn ?

tbaba1234:


Ox at Arsenal was terribly poor and inconsistent... Or is another Ox, we are talking about? Ox had been at Arsenal for a much longer time and did not show the improvement necessary. Like Henry said, he could not point out one good thing Ox did well at his time in Arsenal. His transfer had to do more with his potential than his actual results.

The same holds for Iwobi, Iwobi needs to work on his finishing no doubt.. When i say haters, i mean people who ignore all the good he does in a game and pick on that one mistake.

Iwobi has a lot of great qualities and would thrive under a better manager, who can help him work on his weaknesses. Wenger does not do that so players do not usually get to that next level.

They are really bashing Iwobi. But honestly, the boy is not helping himself.

Mujtahida:

From long ago Joebie and I have hammered on this point that Iwobi can play the Mikel role but many countered us. I think - if I am not mistaken - that it is only recently that you are looking at Iwobi to fill that gap.

Playing him from the wings whether for club or country is a waste.

Not just both of you, I was singing it loud, his a graduate of arsenal academy, we are lucky to have him

Bolowolowo:
I suspect Musa getting subbed off early. He seems absent during the game. Almost doesn't exist.

Bad belle no go kill you, naso village people they want our down fall

Bolowolowo:
Musa hasn't gotten a touch in 10 minutes. That's how absent he is.

He played 90 mins, God protect me from village people

Let's be real. We can't expect consistent quality from some of our players in Russia. What to do?

Dessers just completed a hat-trick!!!

goldfish80:
They are really bashing Iwobi. But honestly, the boy is not helping himself.

Immediately, i saw the missed chance, i knew Iwobi will get yabbed to pieces... He needs to work on his finishing..... He is an easy target for frustrated Arsenal fans..

lol that babalawo looking moniker

Martz101:


Bad belle no go kill you, naso village people they want our down fall