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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 3:40pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
I know Russia is not special. And I understand your point but sadly it cannot happen. Not with this CAF. Check my reply to Sir Chrisooblog and see why. Look, as it stands, if we don't wanna see those North Africans as you say messing up our chances as a continent, then we must be ready to take our game level even further too when they up their own game and then beat them blue, black and green! That way, we get to see more of Black Africa. After all, what gives any team the right to go to the mundial if you cannot beat your fellow Africans from the North in the qualifiers naa? Icon79: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 3:42pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
Good point - especially at the highlighted. O pari TheSuperNerd: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 3:44pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
Icon4s:Sir,3-4 years ago,pls add Omeruo,Echiejile,Onazi inclusive Musa save for Mikel and Moses who had good WC qualifiers. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 3:44pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
BascoVanVeli: ![]() ![]() How Marvellous Basco said this as his answer (pic description).... Basco: Well... Nigeria and Mauritania naa. They played against professionals, they were not playing plumbers. 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 3:45pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
bro allow me to list sub-saharan african team's achievements Nigeria - 2nd round three times 1994, 1998, 2014 Ghana - 2nd round once 2006 quarters once 2010 Cameroon - quarters once 1990 Senegal - quarters once 2002 (will most likely do well this year) north african teams world cup achievements Algeria - 2nd round 2014 Morocco - 2nd round way back in 1986 so bros no comparison wayodude: 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 3:46pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
Icon79: They do well on the African soil because they are typically more organized and more motivated. While teams from West Africa would have fired their coaches after a previous tournament, they will stay for months without a Substantive coach and then employ a local caretaker coach until when qualifiers are barely weeks away. But meanwhile the North Africans would have put their houses in order early enough and kick start preparations. They usually start the qualifiers flying while we from West Africa would have gotten one or two bad results first before struggling to come back and by then the damage would have been done already. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 3:46pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
Icon4s: A team that has lost twice going on three? BTW I was not debating just stating my opinion so u can state ur own if u want it is a free world. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 3:48pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
Kog45: The comparison is between Musa's effectiveness as a winger compared to Iwobi's effectiveness in that same position. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 3:50pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
Just like Nigeria, sometimes Cameroun tend to self destruct (just like in Brazil 2014). As per the Egypt or Morocco's group, let me tell you that this Portugal team isn't that great. I don't see them making it past the round of 16. Morocco would've beaten them if they had taken their chances and/or didn't gift Cristiano Ronaldo a FREE header. Morocco clearly outplayed them today. As regards to Iran, even Stephen Keshi's team with all the problems they encountered were still able to outplay Iran in 2014. Iran was lucky to escape with goalless draw in that game. Go watch the game again on youtube. So I can't see how either Ghana or Cameroun would have much problems getting a result against them. Even Morocco clearly outplayed them but then shoot themselves on the foot with a last minute own goal. Trust me, you'll see how weak these teams (Iran, Russia, Portugal) are when/if they get to the round of 16. O pari andrew444: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by princfred(m): 3:50pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
Icon4s:Moses plays best from 11 and 8 and momentarily drifts to 7 but was permanent on the right side during the last game. Iwobi does best in the 8 role with chance to roam into the 18 yard box or into midfield to help play. Etebo does better as 11 or attacking midfielder not 4. Mikel plays 10 from where he can throw long passes, joins attack or doubles 4 when the ream is under attack and not best in the 8 position because his play style is not fast enough to be effective as main 8 role. And everyone knows Tyrone is better than Shehu as overlapping LWB to help the attackers. Am tempted to say Rohr sold that match given the number of errors as martialed above in that one match, but i won't. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 3:52pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
BascoVanVeli: Yes, as if the loses were against the Nigerian CHAN team and Mauritania. You go soon prefer Osas Okoro over Ebuehi. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 3:53pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
KPOM! Baba, icon, you hit the nail squarely on the head right there! That's why, I hope that Nigeria can retain Gernot Rohr after this world cup regardless of how we do. Let's give him another chance to continue his project and see how he performs at the AFCON next year. it doesn't serve us well to hire and fire coaches after every single tournament. O pari Icon4s: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 3:54pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
Icon79: Make I agree with you but just comot cameroun for those teams you mention |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 3:56pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
princfred: Sir, the roles those 4 players played against Croatia are the typical roles they have been playing for the Super Eagles since the coming of Rohr. And you forgot to describe how Etebo was played out of position. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 3:56pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
Nna, you and I knew this but those who run out football are clueless. If you follow me on twitter, if you'd have noticed how much I pledged with the NFF to retain Samson Siasia, despite losing to Egypt, after he took over from Oliseh; but Amaju and his crew were hell-bent on hiring a foreign coach! There's no question in my mind that given the same support they have given Rohr, Samson Siasia would've done even better than Rohr. O pari Joebie: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 3:58pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
Icon4s:I tire o.The major issue is Rohr who took players out and telling them indirectly that you are not better than the Croatia team. Rohr just need to raise the morales of our boys and should stopped underdog tagging.Naija teams don't normally give respect to any opposition when it comes to football but Rohr is a weakling. Even with Iwobi as AM,Ebuehi replacing Shehu,Iheanacho starting, Mikel fallen deep with Etebo ahead,Omeruo coming into the party,i don't see us beating Iceland with Rohr's defeatism attitude. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 3:58pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
Talking about AFCON now is a digression. Everyone wants to win it all no doubt, talking about the best of both worlds. But when U look at your screen now , you don’t see continental stats but WC stats. All this while Egypt was missing out on the WC they were nothing in global football. They would rather have loved to see Salah and co get to even the second round than win another AFCON. Competition get grade. And you can hardly win it both. I don’t even know what you are arguing about. Many countries will trade a continental crown for having the best shot at the WC stage. But who will not want to win both? Your performance at the global stage carries more weight than what you did in your locality. The Ivory Coast U17 Team 2013 class got nothing on the world conquering Golden Eaglets of the same year. Also consider 2015. Who had the bragging rights in both occasions? Nigeria of course. African Champions is a just a title. At the World Cup, other countries will rate you based on what you do there. TheSuperNerd: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 4:00pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
I totally agree with you. I don't see CAF doing anything even if they want to, because these countries belong in the same federation with us and that's how it would remain. The only option to prevent from wasting our slots is to stop them by beating them in the qualifiers. Hopefully, the expansion of world cup teams starting in 2022 world cup would help us achieve that aim ... provided that CAF doesn't pack strong West African teams into one or two groups sha. O pari TheSuperNerd: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:01pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
In the spirit of African Brother-hood, let's go support Saudi Arabia to beat Uruguay for Egypt. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by princfred(m): 4:01pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
Icon4s:Assuming thats true, how well did it work all the while during the friendlies? Wasn't that enough for him to know the players werent operating at their best? Their game was very one-sided and predictable too -always to Moses on the right. Both Idowu ad Shehu never overlapping. Who wins a game like that? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by wayodude(m): 4:02pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
chrisooblog: okay you win. but none of them dey try, they should all do more. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by princfred(m): 4:05pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
Kog45:Morale is another thing. Placing the players in their right/best positions is equally important. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 4:06pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
Egypt won the AFCON back to back thrice... So why won't they get tired of Afcon success and want to take it further on the world stage? ![]() Have Nigeria won the AFCON back to back? No matter how you wanna dribble past it, the best of both worlds is what truly crowns one the Best. Look ehn, all this one is still story. A decent WC performance does not make a team Africa's best. Full stop. Algeria is a case study. Ghana is a case study. Senegal is a case study. What respect did they command on the African continent after doing well at the mundial and coming home to flunk at the Afcon? What is Senegal's reputation on the African continent? Have they won an Afcon Title? ![]() A decent/good performance is not how we know Africa's Best/finest. That is just it. IT IS JUST NEVER ENOUGH. Those that go farthest at the WC from Africa are the fortunate ones. Luck, Fortune all combined with a team's level of efforts determines this on the world stage. Some teams take the easy path, some the hard path. Fortune plays a role. I suppose South Korea were Asia's best for what they did in Korea/Japan 2002 abi... Why didn't they conquer in Asia in 2000, 2004 and even 2007? Japan is even still far more rated internationally than Korea republic (South Korea). Joebie: 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 4:06pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
Icon4s: No but they lost none the less. Seems u are looking for an argument or something but I could care less TBH. If u like say I prefer Gabriel over Iheanacho that one na your business. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:10pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
@bolded, the real question is how has it helped Africa all these years? If it’s not working, modify it. Icon4s: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:14pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
Icon4s:he is most effective, again i repeat the word 'effective' playing from the middle. he can drift right or left but let him play centrally. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ObaOni(m): 4:15pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
AIG07: I think a win for Argentina is better( preferably 2goal margin at least). It will open up the group + It will in a way reduce d intensity wit which Argentina will approach d final game |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:15pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
Okay I see where we differ. You are focused on the recognition on the continent. I’m focused on recognition at the global stage. Among us Africans expect is to be sentimental because our country’s pride is in question. Outside Africa, “African champions” is just a title. You will be rated by what you give at the global stage. Modified Nigeria has 6 World Cup appearances compared to Senegal’s 2. We are not more respected because of our 3 AFCON titles. TheSuperNerd: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:17pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
Icon4s:i didnt mention Musa. but even at that playing iwobi in the middle because Musa is not effective is cheating ourselves. maximise iwobi where he is most effective. we can manage with Musa on the wings |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:21pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
MetalJigsaw:international disgrace 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 4:22pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
African Champion is not just a title. It is a symbol of being Africa's best because that champion beat the best to get there. They conquered at HOME. South Korea for all they did in 2002 are still not reverred in the same league with Japan in international soccer. Japan trumps South Korea. They have had decent WC outings but have dominated their continents with Four titles. Iran have three titles. South Korea have the best WC showing for Asia but Japan trumps them because the balances of their performances on the continental and world stage is better compared to Korea. This is why England is still not taken seriously in International football. They have a world title... They have been world champions once. But they are not rated among the Best Teams or biggest Guns in World football. Going into any major tournament be it Euros or Worlds, England is considered dark horses. And part of this is because they have never translated their WC win in 1966 into a European dominance within the European Continent. This is why the best of both worlds is key. That is how you know the Best. ![]() Joebie: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:23pm On Jun 20, 2018 |
Icon4s:Egypt is the first country out. this highlights the importance of winning your first match. i really fear for nigeria 1 Like |
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