TheGoodJoe:


I already put that in context in my forecast. That is why I always stressed that I was more interested in Iheanacho soaking the lessons of Guardiola than playing time. I believe it will benefit him more in the long run than looking for playing time under a coach who will not instill such lessons and Discipline.

tbaba1234:


Nasri was Arsenal's best player, the season before moving to Manchester City. He did not suddenly improve because of Pep. He would have been a key player even he was signed directly by Sevilla.

Delph was an outstanding even before City. He was no slouch.

Joebie:
It seems you are sentimental toward's Guardiola in this argument. I've read your posts and your focus have been Iheanacho developing areas he does not posses under Pep. Have you ever wondered why Kelechi has looked uncharacteristically less confident since the arrival of Pep?
Is that also good for his development as well?

TheGoodJoe:


Nasri was big at Arsenal but never fired on all cylinders at City. There was even a game Nasri played well and Mancini said watching Nasri play that way makes him want to punch Nasri.

The young man lacked the drive and effort to perform consistently at a top level. Under Pellegrini's last season, Nasri was one of the pin pointed culprits for our slump. Many tipped him as one of those Guardiola will drop.

Remember, Nasri returned overweight and Guardiola screened him off training with the team. Guardiola's act sparked a drive in Nasri to prove he was still capable. Nasri worked hard, dropped his weight and reports said he was improving.

Guardiola brought him back to the team and the young man was amazing. Still have the memories of his performance that day. Fans screamed Nasri's name and pundits asked for him to stay.

So considering the dynamics, you can not use Nasri was a big player for Arsenal. That is past tense. Lol.

As for Delph, he might have ratings at Villa but was never a buzz name for City. Today, we crave to watch him play with the Sky Moon City jersey.

People play down the work behind the scene a lot.

TheGoodJoe:


I hold and share your fears. Believe me, I am as well conscious of the dicey situation Iheanacho is in. However, we can not close our eyes to the fact that without playing time, we have seen improvement in players screened off the team by Guardiola.

Aguero's recent spike in his team play happened when Guardiola left him out of the team for Gabriel Jesus.

We saw remarkable improvement in Yaya Toure after Guardiola brought him back to the squad

Samir Nasri looked a revelation after Guardiola brought him in as a sub in the second leg play off against Steau Bucharest. So remarkable he got to go to Sevilla, got the ten shirt and became a key player.

Caballero who was awful with his feet before the arrival of Claudio Bravo is now rock solid with his feet and makes picture perfect passes when under pressure.

Fabian Delph is the latest of them.

My point remains that I am interested in the result of working with Guardiola than just game time. Despite Nacho having little to no game time, I have zero doubt that he is developing at a fast rate. When he gets a run, we will tell the difference.

tbaba1234:


Nasri had a few good seasons for Man. City. He did not become exceptional because of Pep. He is not playing at a higher level than he played when he was at Arsenal. If anything, his biggest improvement came at Arsenal not under Pep.

As for Delph, playing for a bigger club gives you more recognition.

joseph1013:


Bros, gently na. So Pep is responsible for Nasri's performance at Sevilla. Haba. Why you dey do like this na?

You mention Caballero, but are always silent on how drilling spoilt Bravo's life. Drilling, drilling, drilling...yet he has become one of the season's biggest flops.

Goldfish80 don talk am tire say Delph na proper baller before City, he even shared videos, yet you continue to run with Pep created Delph talk. Why na?

Aguero recent spike is Pep? Chai...Aguero has always been the go-to person before Pep arrived. We can even argue that this is one of his worst seasons. Why na?

Yaya Toure has been a Man City legend since Pep threw him out of Barcelona. This is his worst season in England yet. But you still say he has remarkably improved. Why na?

joseph1013:


Bros, gently na. I dey observation zone before but my body no fit hold this your latest yarn. So Pep is responsible for Nasri's performance at Sevilla? Haba. Why you dey do like this na?

You mention Caballero, but are always silent on how drilling spoilt Bravo's life. Drilling, drilling, drilling...yet he has become one of the season's biggest flops.

Goldfish80 don talk am tire say Delph na proper baller before City, he even shared videos, yet you continue to run with Pep created Delph talk. Why na?

Aguero recent spike is Pep? Chai...Aguero has always been the go-to person before Pep arrived. We can even argue that this is one of his worst seasons. Why na?

Yaya Toure has been a Man City legend since Pep threw him out of Barcelona. This is his worst season in England yet. But you still say he has remarkably improved. Why na?

Kakamorufu:
What more can aluko do to convince rohr that he deserves a place in the SE squad

Humility017:

I tell you if he was in Germany playing even in second tier league rohr would have since invites him....
someone just need to tell him of this guy

TheGoodJoe:


Time is ticking but Martins early exploit at Inter Milan did not culminate in him becoming one of the best hitmen in the history of the game. That is what I am pointing at. The hype does not mean development.

Development is reaching a level where he is operating at the best of his abilities. Martins did not reach it despite ticking early.

TheSuperNerd:
Okay naa.... then let us call back Martins, Yakubu, Emenike, Osaze and even Yobo.....


is that it?

The fact is Ighalo and co are just flashes in the pan... they are not up and doing... that is the fact... and Iheanacho is the best we have now... so that makes him a man.... coz he has shown he can actually Carry the team on his young shoulders.


And when Pele was leading Brazil's attack in the semis against Sweden in 1958.... and then in the final... you wanna tell me there was no older striker in that team?

You call the world cup a men's world cup... but being a man in a team is not just a function of age and experience... it is also a function of responsibility and how much one can actually deliver on the team's behalf... this is football... and we have seen youngsters step into the shoes of men and become men themselves despite their tender years.

forgiveness:


Martins is never a up and doing player.

terzurum5:
Chelsea, Arsenal Loanees Tomori, Akpom Promoted To The Premier League



Chelsea defender Fikayo Tomori and Arsenal striker Chuba Akpom could be playing in the English Premier League next season if Brighton & Hove Albion retain their services.


Only yesterday, The Seagulls sealed promotion to the Premier League from the Championship for the first time in their history following their 2-1 win over Wigan Athletic, and Derby County held Huddersfield Town to a 1-1 draw in the late game.


This is the second consecutive season that former England youth-teamer Akpom has been part of a team promoted to the top-flight as the Hale End Academy product spent last season on loan at Hull City.


Chelsea current Academy Player of the Year Tomori has featured seven times for Brighton in the Championship, while Akpom has suited up nine times following their loan moves in the January transfer window.


Vancouver Whitecaps loanee and Canada international of Nigerian heritage Sam Adekugbe made one appearance for Brighton in the league this term.

Ifeanyi Emmanuel

http://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=22753

forgiveness:



At the end of the day, what counts is the trophies he won through his impacts. Martins don reach am.

daveP:
With what i watched tonight, i need two nig youngsters to dream of playing for real madrid. that club can ginger a weaklings confidence to think he is a star already. if only.....

TheGoodJoe:


Derik Osede made a big mistake leaving Real Madrid. He should have been patient with Zidane. Slowly the young players from the academy are breaking in. Frightening when you consider Osede was one of the shining lights of the academy.

tbaba1234:


Do you know how many youngsters pass through the real Madrid system? Only a few make it through. Derik did not stand a chance.

TheGoodJoe:


Derik Osede made a big mistake leaving Real Madrid. He should have been patient with Zidane. Slowly the young players from the academy are breaking in. Frightening when you consider Osede was one of the shining lights of the academy.

TheGoodJoe:


Why will he not stand a chance when he was one of their promising starlets? The reason why lots of Madrid players did not make it in the past is because they did not have managers who believed in youth.

Unlike Zidane who actually was a youth coach and worked with the likes of Morata and Osede. He has a preference of making his boys do well. If Zidane was not coach, most of these young lads will not get a chance. Derik was impatient. I believe he Regrets his action to leave.

tbaba1234:


He was among the most promising?? Can you provide evidence of that.

He was a good player but did not necessarily stand a chance to make the first team. If he did, he would have been signed by other sides in La liga or in the top leagues.

tbaba1234:


He was among the most promising?? Can you provide evidence of that.

He was a good player but did not necessarily stand a chance to make the first team. If he did, he would have been signed by other sides in La liga or in the top leagues.

Mutiu Adepoju was a promising Real Madrid talent. He played in La Liga.

TheGoodJoe:


You do not need evidence. It is easy to know. Osede was a Super regular player for the club. Regular for the club and became regular for the Spanish Junior teams.

TheGoodJoe:


I was critical of Osede leaving Real Madrid. My opinion of working under top conditions is clear. I would have preferred him staying at Madrid. I also hated the fact he left Spain. Maybe he wanted to mix with the English culture being part Nigerian. Lots of Spanish young players move to England because of picking the language.

At the end, his lack of patience led him to a wrong move. He had a shot.

tbaba1234:


If he thought, he had a genuine shot, he would have stayed.

If he had a genuine shot, he would have gotten other La lira offers.

tbaba1234:


That is not enough. Playing for the B team does not guarantee promotion to the senior team. Several players play for the B side and never make the move up. Only the exceptional do.

There is no evidence that Derik was in that calibre

TheGoodJoe:


There is evidence because Osede also broke into the Spanish Junior team made of promising talents and they won the Euro. By then I did not even knew he had Nigerian Youths.

The youngsters breaking into Real Madrid did not also know they will make it. Zidane is going against the norm by showing faith in the young players.

TheGoodJoe:


You do not need evidence. It is easy to know. Osede was a Super regular player for the club. Regular for the club and became regular for the Spanish Junior teams.