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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 5:32pm On Aug 20, 2020
forgiveness:


What about if Ighalo hit the ground running with Manchester United? What do you think?

In my opinion, i prefer Victor Osimhen. Osimhen is more mobile and agile and his off
the ball work is better. He is also more involved in build up.
Ighalo cannot function without a midfield while Osimhen can still function without a midfield
Osimhen's pressing is also better (Check out his goal against Valencia. It was not even a pass from his player but a wrong pass from the opposing team).
Most coaches will prefer Osimhen because of his hard working all action style.
Ighalo is still a good player though

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Olulong(m): 5:33pm On Aug 20, 2020
Subzero047:


Have you seen Joelinton stats, is Aguero better than him?

My guy

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:33pm On Aug 20, 2020
chrisooblog:
chief in command based on what? did he have the most goals? no. most assists? no so what stands him out as chief in command? please enlighten me


Against Ethiopia we were at the verge of bowing out of the competition but the individual brilliance of Vicmo won us the match after he won two penalties and scored by himself. Can you remember?

Against Cote d'Ivoire he did well.

Against Mali in the semi final, his individual brilliance recked the Malian defence and led to an assist for the first goal.

In the finals, he provided the assist that led to the goal.

As you can see, he was involved in all the games.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 5:39pm On Aug 20, 2020
Philosopher1979:


In my opinion, i prefer Victor Osimhen. Osimhen is more mobile and agile and his off
the ball work is better. He is also more involved in build up.
Ighalo cannot function without a midfield while Osimhen can still function without a midfield
Osimhen's pressing is also better (Check out his goal against Valencia. It was not even a pass from his player but a wrong pass from the opposing team).
Most coaches will prefer Osimhen because of his hard working all action style.
Ighalo is still a good player though

At the bolded
The best coach in the world starts Aguero over Jesus and Brazil starts Jesus ahead of Firmino

No Coach will pick a potent and proven goal scorer over an unproven goalscorer because of his work rate

is it the midfield of Iwobi, Etebo that helped Ighalo get his goals?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:40pm On Aug 20, 2020
Olulong:


Moses has not been at the highest level since his time at Chelsea under Conte. Look at onyekuru stats and Victor moses stats for the last two seasons. Onyekuru was clearly and by far better than him even tho they were in the same league two seasons ago. Last season even tho Onyekuru struggled, Moses stat wasn't even clearly better than his

1st Pic Onyekuru for last season
2nd Pic Moses for last season

3rd Pic Onyekuru for 2018/2019
Last pic Moses for 2018/2019

You chose only Onyekuru(who has stopped getting Call up because of his struggles last season) of all the names listed because he was the one Moses had better stats than last season.

What of Ejuke, Nwakaeme,Simon and Chukwueze

Did Onyekuru win the Afcon, Europa and any of the top five leagues? If not, he is yet to play at the highest level but Vicmo has done these.

Don't forget Vicmo is going to play in the Europa League.

Either way, throughout their football career and last season, Vicmo was better.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:41pm On Aug 20, 2020
Subzero047:


Have you seen Joelinton stats, is Aguero better than him?


Aguero is currently playing at the highest level can that be said of Joelinton?

The last time I checked, Onyekuru struggled in Ligue 1.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 5:44pm On Aug 20, 2020
forgiveness:


Did Onyekuru win the Afcon, Europa and any of the top five leagues? If not, he is yet to play at the highest level but Vicmo has done that.

Don't forget Vicmo is going to play in the Europa League.

Either way, throughout their football career and last season, Vicmo was better.

let Vicmo score 7 league goals in a season before we can say that he is better than the rest grin

You think if Vicmo was a Nigerian player first before he featured for any English youth team, you think he would have gotten to the level he is?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:45pm On Aug 20, 2020
Edopesin:
Victor Moses that has never scored 7 league goals a season in any top flight league after almost 10 years

Truth is only Conte rates him because he fits in in his style of play, when his loan deal expires at the end of the month (31 Aug) and he doesn't get another extension, no top team will go for him

Lampard wants him back. Haven't you heard? Though still a rumour.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lloydtruth: 5:46pm On Aug 20, 2020
So we are waiting.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:47pm On Aug 20, 2020
Edopesin:


let Vicmo score 7 league goals in a season before we can say that he is better than the rest grin

You think if Vicmo was a Nigerian player first before he featured for any English youth team, you think he would have gotten to the level he is?

Victor Moses was very good when he was young. Maybe you were not aware.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:47pm On Aug 20, 2020
lloydtruth:
So we are waiting.

That's my gee. grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:49pm On Aug 20, 2020
Philosopher1979:


In my opinion, i prefer Victor Osimhen. Osimhen is more mobile and agile and his off
the ball work is better. He is also more involved in build up.
Ighalo cannot function without a midfield while Osimhen can still function without a midfield
Osimhen's pressing is also better (Check out his goal against Valencia. It was not even a pass from his player but a wrong pass from the opposing team).
Most coaches will prefer Osimhen because of his hard working all action style.
Ighalo is still a good player though

Off the ball move is Ighalo speciality. Well both will improve our team and that is the koko

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 5:49pm On Aug 20, 2020
forgiveness:


Victor Moses was very good when he was young. Maybe you were not aware.

So Onyekuru and Chukwueze were not very good when they were young abi cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 5:50pm On Aug 20, 2020
lloydtruth:
So we are waiting.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:53pm On Aug 20, 2020
Edopesin:


So Onyekuru and Chukwueze were not very good when they were young abi cheesy

That was in response to your second paragraph.

Now let me address the first. Let the aforementioned players win Afcon, EPL (or any of the top 5 leagues) and Europa first before they can be better than Vic Moses.

How about that?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 5:57pm On Aug 20, 2020
which provided assist? shot that cannoned of a burkinabe defender and fell to mba's path cheesy

moses did well but he wasn't our most important. he was one among many that contributed to our AFCON success

forgiveness:


Against Ethiopia we were at the verge of bowing out of the competition but the individual brilliance of Vicmo won us the match after he won two penalties and scored by himself. Can you remember?

Against Cote d'Ivoire he did well.

Against Mali in the semi final, his individual brilliance recked the Malian defence and led to an assist for the first goal.

In the finals, he provided the assist that led to the goal.

As you can see, he was involved in all the games.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:00pm On Aug 20, 2020
Edopesin:


Are you serious?
I don't think you watched Onyekuru while he was playing for galatasaray.
What attribute does Zaha have that makes him a better player than onyekuru is?

What stopped Onyekuru from doing well in Ligue 1?

The fact that big team wants Zaha proves the attributes are there.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 6:01pm On Aug 20, 2020
fabyom:
Moses single handedly won AFCON 2013 for us.
So Mikel,Emenike,Mba and Enyeama went to do ball boy there abi?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:02pm On Aug 20, 2020
chrisooblog:
which provided assist? shot that cannoned of a burkinabe defender and fell to mba's path cheesy

moses did well but he wasn't our most important. he was one among many that contributed to our AFCON success



Na still assist. He was the most important player in that team.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elunico: 6:03pm On Aug 20, 2020
komekn:


Club level he is tested but not proven to Sane level as Ighalo.

Victor Osimhen has effectively played 1.75 seasons of first team football. You cannot compare that to Ighalo who was the highest goal scorer in the last AFCON.

Ighalo is still the Oga. EOD.

...And retired as well.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 6:03pm On Aug 20, 2020
forgiveness:


That was in response to your second paragraph.

Now let me address the first. Let the aforementioned players win Afcon, EPL (or any of the top 5 leagues) and Europa first before they can be better than Vic Moses.

How about that?

This is why I said this

You think if Vicmo was a Nigerian player first before he featured for any English youth team, you think he would have gotten to the level he is?

Victor Moses was only Privileged to be in the English football system because he is mediocre in the position he claims is his natural that's why Conte turned him into a defensive player because he contributes literally nothing going forward

Onyekuru's dribbles are productive as we've seen with Onyekuru and unlike Moses that only dribbles to throw in or goal kick.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 6:07pm On Aug 20, 2020
forgiveness:


What stopped Onyekuru from doing well in Ligue 1?

The fact that big team wants Zaha proves the attributes are there.

So which big team has he gone to now?

That's the same way we hear big teams like Liverpool, Atletico, Valencia and even Barcelona want Chukwueze isn't it?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 6:08pm On Aug 20, 2020
Anyone saying a player plying his trade @ intermilan or Manchester united(both elite clubs) is not good/not useful for super eagles present team is only been insincere to himself cool..EOD

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Olulong(m): 6:13pm On Aug 20, 2020
Edopesin:


At the bolded
The best coach in the world starts Aguero over Jesus and Brazil starts Jesus ahead of Firmino

No Coach will pick a potent and proven goal scorer over an unproven goalscorer because of his work rate

is it the midfield of Iwobi, Etebo that helped Ighalo get his goals?
I hope this is sarcasm tho
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 6:14pm On Aug 20, 2020
Musa with 2 assists at half time...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 6:16pm On Aug 20, 2020
elyte89:
Anyone saying a player plying his trade @ intermilan or Manchester united(both elite clubs) is not good/not useful for super eagles present team is only been insincere to himself cool..EOD

Any person that wants us to recall old legs who have retired rather than moving forward with the young talents we have clearly doesn't want the best for the team..

Tell me something... U badly want Saka to play for us,isn't it?
Now imagine we get Saka today and Rohr goes to Italy to beg Moses to return,and he does, would u be happy to see Saka being benched for Moses ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kellycute(m): 6:17pm On Aug 20, 2020
Edopesin:


At the bolded
The best coach in the world starts Aguero over Jesus and Brazil starts Jesus ahead of Firmino

No Coach will pick a potent and proven goal scorer over an unproven goalscorer because of his work rate

is it the midfield of Iwobi, Etebo that helped Ighalo get his goals?
well ighalo is not a proven goal scorer for super eagles. He messed up Naija at Russia 2018 world cup
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 6:17pm On Aug 20, 2020
Olulong:
I hope this is sarcasm tho

If you're talking about the last paragraph, go figure lipsrsealed
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:22pm On Aug 20, 2020
Edopesin:


This is why I said this



Victor Moses was only Privileged to be in the English football system because he is mediocre in the position he claims is his natural that's why Conte turned him into a defensive player because he contributes literally nothing going forward

Onyekuru's dribbles are productive as we've seen with Onyekuru and unlike Moses that only dribbles to throw in or goal kick.

I followed Moses from when he was 14 years old and that when was he came into limelight after he scored 50 goals for Crystal palace U14 team. He later went on to score 100 goals for the same side in 3 years and won laurels for the team singlehandedly.

Due to his performance over 3 years, Crystal palace promoted him to the first team eventhough he was just 16 year old and he didn't disappoint.

That season, after he got promoted to the team, he played consistently and was part of crystal palace team that lost in the playoffs to the EPL.


Can you now explain how he was privilege to be in the English system?

He worked for it.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:23pm On Aug 20, 2020
elyte89:
Anyone saying a player plying his trade @ intermilan or Manchester united(both elite clubs) is not good/not useful for super eagles present team is only been insincere to himself cool..EOD

You dey mind those people.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 6:24pm On Aug 20, 2020
kellycute:
well ighalo is not a proven goal scorer for super eagles. He messed up Naija at Russia 2018 world cup

You say wetin cheesy

Highest goal scorer in an Afcon qualifiers and the highest goal scorer in the tournament proper is not good enough for you.

Iheanacho that was starting ahead of him in the world cup didn't mess up abi?

it will take more than 3 bad matches to say he is not proven

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kellycute(m): 6:27pm On Aug 20, 2020
elyte89:
Anyone saying a player plying his trade @ intermilan or Manchester united(both elite clubs) is not good/not useful for super eagles present team is only been insincere to himself cool..EOD
but they are retired Naija players. Do you want us to beg them to return from retirement?

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