analice107:

My brother, it's well. God doesn't explain Himself. He does what he wants, He is God.

no...god does what you want him to do....or wat your head think....

that's why their are so many attributes of god...each religion with their own.version of god...god is man made......

lepasharon:


So what? Is a nurse the same as a doctor. Even if it was a doctor, a physical exam is not enough to conclude you have Appendicitis.

This girl. I don't know how much you ve been around doctors. But when you go them, they sit you down and ask you questions. They write what you say down. They then proceed to examine you, by touching the affected area. They then will ascertain what could be wrong with you before prescribing any medication. I don't know if where you come from, they put you under the knife by way of examining you.

Cc:Joshthefirst.
Pls Doc. Joshua, if I have Appendicitis and come to you, do you open me up to make sure it's Appendicitis?

asalimpo:


let's flog this dead horse can we?
You are worked up.
Your blow off was'nt logic based just automatic- the same way you blow of guyz saying 'hi' , before
you even know if he's a toaster or guy selling something or some1 seeking directions.

You wouldnt meet up cuz he's a total stranger- that's the point i'm making -
millions of first time dates start with two total strangers hooking up.
Just physical attractiveness (mainly) was the point.
Stop dangling this limp pious logic of it dont happen. It does and will continue to happen.

How dyu know you dont want any relationship when you've not met somebody.
- your logic is lame.

I called you up on your game because it stank and is the typical snobbish, high falutin c.rap you girls swing.
Sorry , if i was so blunt. That's how i talk.

Na wa o.

If I was worked up, I wouldn't reply you the way I did at first, I've reiterated that we are having this conversation now because you mentioned "logic", I'm not a newbie on NL, so i know how it can get on here, your comment isn't even nearly as toxic as I've had it here, therefore, it doesn't come close to what can work me up, but if you believing I am, will give you an orgasm then you can hold on to that belief, I seriously couldn't care less. Moving on.

Your assertion is very laughable because this person and I were already having a conversation, so how does the analogy of automatically blowing someone off before knowing what they are about fit? Plus how do you know I blow people off before knowing their intent for saying hi? Here you are proving my point of you knowing nothing about logic, by ignorantly assuming you know what I can/do.

Jesus Christ! How do I know I don't want a relationship when I haven't met someone? Like are you serious? This is a real question? Talkin' bout the logic being lame, nigga please! Now this is just ludicrous.

There's no game here mister, again, you are the one seeing things that aren't there and that's because you are making the gross mistake of generalising, you ought to know better than that. We were talking about God answering prayers and out of the blues the guy talks about meeting, I ask what for?(going further to say this platform is enough, cos I was still believing it was about our discourse) He says cos we both nairalanders and reside in the same town, I say that's not reason enough to meet someone, seeing as that person could be just anything(serial killer being the phrase used, which was even said jocularly). I wouldn't meet up because I don't see a reason to and you say I'm being illogical/snobbish. mehn! Na real wa.

Anyways, the manner with which you addressed me at first, already said it all , every other thing na just formality.

Seems you believe every girl should respond to a guy that says hi, while it is civil to, it is most definitely not unreasonable not to, seeing as people have the right to choose who to respond to or not.

Shollyps:
no...god does what you want him to do....or wat your head think....

that's why their are so many attributes of god...each religion with their own.version of god...god is man made......

There's one true god, the rest are counterfeits.

And , no , he wouldnt submit to your whims . It's the other way round.

Shollyps:
no...god does what you want him to do....or wat your head think....

that's why their are so many attributes of god...each religion with their own.version of god...god is man made......

Ok

Shollyps:
thanks....old woman....waooo!!that's another escaped route... after life...I dont care about persecution n the likes...wat we are discussing is about prayer ...does prayer works. ?.those people prayed to god for safety that very morning... they were inside the church praying n praising god...yet he left them to die...so you mean it is better for a young boy of 20 to die like that because he will be in heaven...he has no purpose on earth?...the question is.. why did god turn a deaf ear to there prayer? so that the prophecy of the bible can be fulfilled right??that means prayer can't change anything... wat will happen will happen anyway...your last statement... I thought Satan is in charge of the world now... n he is the ruler of the world...na god dey run am now?

Some people talk because they want to hear the sound of their voices. You typed because you want to type? It's difficult for me to type because am using a phone which auto corrects, it gives me hell typing.
That said, did you read the passage I posted? No, you don't care about after life, but you care that they died. Whether they died to join their Saviour is not your concern.
Why won't you ask why he delivered the Adulterous woman who indeed committed sin, from being stoned, but allowed righteous Steven to be stoned to death. Why did he allow all his Apostles to die such horrible deaths? Una get plenty questions to answer?

analice107:

This girl. I don't know how much you ve been around doctors. But when you go them, they sit you down and ask you questions. They write what you say down. They then proceed to examine you, by touching the affected area. They then will ascertain what could be wrong with you before prescribing any medication. I don't know if where you come from, they put you under the knife by way of examining you.

Cc:Joshthefirst.
Pls Doc. Joshua, if I have Appendicitis and come to you, do you open me up to make sure it's Appendicitis?

Looool... ofcourse they would not open you up.

In addition to a physical exam, a blood test + urinary test and others will be done for an accurate diagnosis.

The problem with ur story is that you were only given a physical exam and diagnosed by a nurse and not a doctor. who then concluded you have Appendicitis
#wheretheydothatat.....Oh in africa

asalimpo:

There's one true god, the rest are counterfeits.

And , no , he wouldnt submit to your whims . It's the other way round.

How do I know that your own God (yaweh) is the true God? Because your Bible said so?

How is Allah not the true God? Quoran did say so.

How is Santa clause not real? There are lots of comic books about him.

How is Spiderman not real? Books and movies are there to show he is real.

The reason you discard other gods as fake is the same reason I tell you yours is fake.

asalimpo:

The bible makes claims you should take seriously .
So do other religions. The Bible has also proved itself to be inhumanly inspired scientifically , so for
the sceptic that's one line of persuasion right there.

Excuse me? Santa clause is not a joke. Explain how all those kids get their presents! Santa exists

asalimpo:

What will seeing do for you ? make you believe more?

If I see the walking corpse of a dead Jew? Yes. Except he flew into the sky after telling the Jewish author these things. How convenient.

lepasharon:


Looool... ofcourse they would not open you up.

In addition to a physical exam, a blood test + urinary test and others will be done for an accurate diagnosis.

The problem with ur story is that you were only given a physical exam and diagnosed by a nurse and not a doctor. who then concluded you have Appendicitis
#wheretheydothatat.....Oh in africa

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simplex2:


How do I know that your own God (yaweh) is the true God? Because your Bible said so?

How is Allah not the true God? Quoran did say so.

How is Santa clause not real? There are lots of comic books about him.

How is Spiderman not real? Books and movies are there to show he is real.

The reason you discard other gods as fake is the same reason I tell you yours is fake.

which of them promised to forgive your sins.

Which of them makes a comment about how the first man came to be?

lets first use that as a filter.

asalimpo:

There's one true god, the rest are counterfeits.

And , no , he wouldnt submit to your whims . It's the other way round.

how do you know there is only one true God?... let me guess...the one you were exposed to from childhood is the true God!..waoooo!wat a lucky coincidence!...am sure if you were born in Saudi Arabia...you will be proclaiming Allah as the true God right now... you will probably be a Hindu if born in India... so why is your own version the true one n others counterfeit.... explain with good point?

Weah96:



If I see the walking corpse of a dead Jew? Yes. Except he flew into the sky after telling the Jewish author these things. How convenient.

And if you saw one and told your other atheists 20 years later and they retorted as you retort now , what would you do to convince them?

Shollyps:
how do you know there is only one true God?... let me guess...the one you were exposed to from childhood is the true God!..waoooo!wat a lucky coincidence!...am sure if you were born in Saudi Arabia...you will be proclaiming Allah as the true God right now... you will probably be a Hindu if born in India... so why is your own version the true one n others counterfeit.... explain with good point?

In other words, it's impossible to you, for a person to change to the truth after being indoctrinated from childhood?

asalimpo:

Sorry girl, but i dont throw around lame logic.

I said you snobbed him because that's a subconscious response.
You are simply denying that with hollow logical excuses tht dont apply.
I'm talking at the subconscious level. The guy probably knows this.
You may wanna deny to appear more polite but that major bullsh*t.
save it.

" How do you know you dont want a relationship when you've not met the person?"
I said that , arguing that you dont want to meet some1 because the person is a stranger,
is illogical because 1) most relationships start with strangers meeting. 2)
if you meet him, he may be different from your (wrong/negative perception) and may even be
some1 you may want to see again and it could lead to something better.
A blind date doesnt mean a negative experience.
It takes a few minutes to create an impression , and if likeable, all the due diligence could
be performed as the people interact.
people hook up on fb, tweeter etc People who dont know jack of each, no background info nothing.
Just an impression.
You're yapping logic here, your species fall inlove all the time with the wrongest type over nothing logical at all.

I didnt say you were snobbish cuz you couldnt meet up but because that's the typical response - to bounce a hooter. which is b*tchy.
It's like you feel its the moral thing to do. As if admitting him in would signify vulnerability on your part.

Apparently you have issues bigger than this argument, you need to get those sorted it.

You are just all over the place, totally talking off point.

analice107:

Some people talk because they want to hear the sound of their voices. You typed because you want to type? It's difficult for me to type because am using a phone which auto corrects, it gives me hell typing.
That said, did you read the passage I posted? No, you don't care about after life, but you care that they died. Whether they died to join their Saviour is not your concern.
Why won't you ask why he delivered the Adulterous woman who indeed committed sin, from being stoned, but allowed righteous Steven to be stoned to death. Why did he allow all his Apostles to die such horrible deaths? Una get plenty questions to answer?

lol...am sure it is even easier for you to type...mine is. worse...my phone is very slow while typing on nairaland...I don't know why...I use like 10min to type few words.n with auto correct ish...na double wahala..that's why I don't really comment much on nairaland..I prefer reading people's comment..... I will say he abandoned Stephen as well ..he couldn't save them...maybe he didnt hear their prayer or he is. not powerful enough to save them

lepasharon:


Looool... ofcourse they would not open you up.

In addition to a physical exam, a blood test + urinary test and others will be done for an accurate diagnosis.

The problem with ur story is that you were only given a physical exam and diagnosed by a nurse and not a doctor. who then concluded you have Appendicitis
#wheretheydothatat.....Oh in africa

Doctors know how they diagnose issues like this.
some have ample experience from years of exposure to be able to determine the case
without jumping thru all those hoops you mentioned.
finally, read about the doctor who performed an appendectomy on himself.

Here's the story.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonid_Rogozov

Or will you now ask me to prove that wikipedia is real?

asalimpo:


Doctors know how they diagnose issues like this.
some have ample experience from years of exposure to be able to determine the case
without jumping thru all those hoops you mentioned.
finally, read about the doctor who performed an appendectomy on himself.

Here's the story.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonid_Rogozov

Or will you now ask me to prove that wikipedia is real?

She was not diagnosed by a doctor don't you get it?!

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asalimpo:

In other words, it's impossible to you, for a person to change to the truth after being indoctrinated from childhood?

that was why I said probably... it is possible to change... but am telling you your environment influenced your decision concerning religion... wat do you know about Hinduism ,Buddhism?.. little..... n you can confidently say yours is the only true god?..many in China ,India doesn't even know anything about. Christianity... their own religion n God is the only right one for them as well...so your opinion doesn't make your god to be the true one...it remains your opinion... just like Muslim believe Allah is the only true god n its working for them

lepasharon:


She was not diagnosed by a doctor don't you get it?!

no, you dont get it. If the doctor that performed self surgery could diagnos his case by mere physical examination only, why can't an experienced nurse do same!
Nurses are often the first personnel to attend to patients before they meet the doctor.
They are also with doctors in theaters treating patients.

asalimpo:

no, you dont get it. If the doctor that performed self surgery could diagnos his case by mere physical examination only, why can't an experienced nurse do same!
Nurses are often the first personnel to attend to patients before they meet the doctor.
They are also with doctors in theaters treating patients.

Ah sharap. Nurses don't diagnose. Stop dancing

asalimpo:

which of them promised to forgive your sins.

Which of them makes a comment about how the first man came to be?

lets first use that as a filter.

so the one who promised to forgive an imaginary sin caused by his own incompetency is the true one?..that's how to know the true god sey? Allah will forgive anyone who beliefs in him...he is also a true God...yahweh who needed to murder his son before he can forgive his mere creature. . is that the forgiveness of sin you are talking about?.....
how man came to be?..lol...you av to be kidding me...man was made from clay right?you believe that?

Shollyps:
that was why I said probably... it is possible to change... but am telling you your environment influenced your decision concerning religion... wat do you know about Hinduism ,Buddhism?.. little..... n you can confidently say yours is the only true god?..many in China ,India doesn't even know anything about. Christianity... their own religion n God is the only right one for them as well...so your opinion doesn't make your god to be the true one...it remains your opinion... just like Muslim believe Allah is the only true god n its working for them

We are in a spiritual world. You are a spirit so am i.
The Word of God is spirit too.
No matter how deep and thick the darkness in a region is, when the truth pierces it, all those logical props and lies used to keep people in darkness will part way.
That's why in the bible, Paul could take the gospel to thickly heathen nations and unanimously almost the entire city would be converted for Christ.
Christianity is not marketed at the logical level only. Infact, without the spiritual thrust of the Spirit of God, it is nothing but empty hollow rhetoric.
I ask you, why do regions conquered by Islam , inclined to mindless violence and suppression? You think it is just mere strong ideology binding the people?
Wherever Christianity permeates it begins to take root- spiritually,
that's why, most regions are hostile to it - It is the truth. It is the real deal.

Why do i know that Christianity is the truth - because of the spiritual touch to it. physical proof second, logic last. But that spiritual witness to it is compelling. It isnt something your parents can teach you.
Most people in christian homes who havent given their lives to Christ , can play religion.
But when they have a personal encounter with God (often through his Word), they know they've met something and not just tradition.

asalimpo:

And if you saw one and told your other atheists 20 years later and they retorted as you retort now , what would you do to convince them?

There would be no reason for them to believe me. Why would a dead Jew reveal himself to me and then enter the sky afterwards, leaving no evidence of his presence or existence? Common sense should immediately discard the story.

Dead Jews who walk around carry powers to defy our experience of nature. That's the whole point of being dead and still being able to walk. If the dead man wanted me to convince others, I'm assuming that he would have contributed some evidence.

Shollyps:
so the one who promised to forgive an imaginary sin caused by his own incompetency is the true one?..that's how to know the true god sey? Allah will forgive anyone who beliefs in him...he is also a true God...yahweh who needed to murder his son before he can forgive his mere creature. . is that the forgiveness of sin you are talking about?.....
how man came to be?..lol...you av to be kidding me...man was made from clay right?you believe that?

yeah, i believe that. It sounds plausible.
More plausible than a fish swimming out of water and forgetting his way back only to become gorilla!
utter junk.

As for the Allah you talk about, show wht he says about sin, forgiveness and eternity.
I hope you can see how narrowing down to the essentials of life - sin, death, origin of man -
cut out so many of the junk figures you were lumping together to push your point.

Weah96:


There would be no reason for them to believe me. Why would a dead Jew reveal himself to me and then enter the sky afterwards, leaving no evidence of his presence or existence? Common sense should immediately discard the story.

Dead Jews who walk around carry powers to defy our experience of nature. That's the whole point of being dead and still being able to walk. If the dead man wanted me to convince others, I'm assuming that he would have contributed some evidence.

Bros, stay focused.
If a dead jew met with you and you verified that he was dead but is now alive. And you had to convince
your fellow atheists 20,30,50 years later. How would you do it?
You know what you saw, the dead jew is gone, but you have the task of convincing a doubting set!
How would you resolve this dilemma ?

lepasharon:


Ah sharap. Nurses don't diagnose. Stop dancing

Nurses can't tell a sickness from the symptoms ?

Shollyps:
lol...am sure it is even easier for you to type...mine is. worse...my phone is very slow while typing on nairaland...I don't know why...I use like 10min to type few words.n with auto correct ish...na double wahala..that's why I don't really comment much on nairaland..I prefer reading people's comment..... I will say he abandoned Stephen as well ..he couldn't save them...maybe he didnt hear their prayer or he is. not powerful enough to save them

Nairaland package is very heavy. My black Berry suffers the most. It runs down my ba3 very fast. It was alway very hard to type with it. This is infinix, it's better, but still hard.
Lol. OK sir. Jesus is weak eh?
You remember today. My joy is, no one, I mean, no one will escape standing to answer. Death won't help, we all, sinners and Saints will resurrect and stand and answer. Don't bother responding. We are done here.