sirthisthickkal:
I endorse this thread.

NaijaTalkTown:
Thank you.

LordAdam:
GEJ lost his election majorly because the West was against him.

Obama sent PMB one of his campaign staff. And I can remember a vivid warning from the US and UK that GEJ's government should not tamper with the elections prior to the elections been held.

Part of the anti-GEJ rhetoric that culminated in the "ineffectual baboon" tag placed on him by The Economist was orchestrated by the West because GEJ was pro-China.

Unfortunately for PMB, he used the West's help to ascend to power and is nothing but a pawn. If the West sees him to be pro-China, China will not stand for him and leave him up to the West to manhandle. He has bitten the hand that fed him, and seeing how he was used by the enemies of Nigeria (the West) to destabilize the country (look at the current state of our economy), I have no pity for him.

He could have demonstrated tact, but someone that cannot even manage the sensitive nature of Nigeria's ethnic divide or present a budget hitch-free cannot possibly develop a tactical foreign policy with two superpowers.

It is wrong timing to pick a fight with the West and China is not Russia who stand toe-in with their allies even through the worst.

The next couple of months will be interesting.

-Lord

NaijaTalkTown:
You made sense, but you are wrong. GEJ's administration is the cause of the country's current economic problem not Buhari. And Buhari cannot be blamed for biting the "hand that fed him". He did not sign any deal with the West, he only asked for their help. In politics, especially international politics, this is allowed. Even Putin had to seek support of the West in 1999. In fact, Putin and Tony Blair were best of friends back then but today, he is considered the number one enemy by the West. You are also wrong if you actually think Buhari is not tactful enough. The way he has handled the Biafran issue, the Book Haram issue and the pressures from international forces is amazing. He has done perfectly well. He knows how to play the diplomatic board game. Turning to China few days after returning from the US was the right thing to do and it was very well anticipated by the US and those who understand international politics. We cannot chose to remain in ruins because of the fear of the Americans. We will rather confront our problems while we continue to build our economy, develop our infrastructure and develop capable defense forces. No the Americans are not going to send F22 Raptors to Nigeria and bomb our asses to hell. No they are not going to be able to send trained terrorists into our territory if outlr borders are well protected. No they are not going to succeed with their color revolution if we, the people do not let them and their media outlets tell us what to do with our own country. The Russians have done it, the Chinese have done it, the Iranians are doing it so we can do it. All we have to do is support our government to the end.

LordAdam:


You do know all of what you typed is trash right?

You say Nigeria's woes is caused by GEJ alone, and you're absolving Buhari who cannot keep fuel supply coming, keep electricity at the level he met it, has not made any economic policy 11 months after he resumed office, orchestrated the worst Budget saga in the history of Africa? Are you an adult or a teenager?

Next you say he did not sign any deal with the West? Really? When he was a regular guest of Chatham house and having so much as President Obama's campaign staff on his campaign team. Do you think the West does anything for free? Without some motive or backside agreement?

You're actually comparing Putin to Buhari? How low can you go really? Do you know how old the Russian Empire is? The Soviet Union fought on the side of the Allied and helped stopped Hitler. Russia is a superpower and Putin is a tenured ex-KGB agent and politician who has been in power for over 1 decade. Buhari lost elections 3 consecutive times and won one after doing a merger. Putin and Buhari are not mates. Putin is the world's most influential person on Forbes for crying out loud.

When you say Buhari is tactful in the way he handled the Biafran and Boko Haram issue, I try to imagine how old you are? If he handled the Biafran and Boko Haram issues well, why is the ICC chief prosecutor currently in Nigeria to investigate both incidences. Don't type trash, it's annoying. Would you also say he handled the Shiites issue well? What about the Fulani herdsmen issue?

Buhari has had no international pressure safe from the Iranians and up till this point has enjoyed the goodwill of the West, Saudi Arabia leading the Middle East Sunni bloc. Any president who enjoys the support of the West and Middle East Sunni bloc can literally do anything and get away with it. But Buhari has bleeped up so bad that the ICC is letting the 6 petitions against his government stand. In less than 1 year. How many years did GEJ stay? Aside the Amnesty International/West-backed report of army excesses to discredit his war against terrorism, did GEJ receive any ICC petition in 6 years?

Buhari that couldn't attend a crucial UN meeting on Boko Haram while he was in New York is a kindergarten when it comes to diplomacy. For the last 11 months he strung along with the US and the West hoping for hand-outs and shunned the Chinese. Who does that? Even the Americans run a special relationship with the Chinese where they do not agree on security, cyber, and East China sea; while they work together in commerce and finance. China is America's biggest lender.

Buhari shunned them as if the US have ever had our backs. That is suicide. So after giving the West green light all this while, you make a U-turn to China, and you call that a tact move? That is what any 5-year-old kid would do, it is not tact, it is a reactionary measure. What's wrong with maintaining talks with the US while we get involved with China? Egypt maintained a two-prong relationship with the US and Soviet Union during the cold war under Nasser. Thanks to a luminary like Nasser and also a middle-man foreign policy by ousted Mubarak, Egypt had the most-sophisticated military in Africa, second most sophisticated in the Middle East and stable economic outlook.

GEJ lost his presidency for confronting the West, I hope Buhari does not end in Hague for confronting them, because the SS/SE will be willful tools in their hands if the color revolution starts. After the many killings, marginalization, and insults, we would take the "an enemy of our enemy is our friend" approach.

If you do not know, America's policy in the event of a calamity in Nigeria is to send marines to the South to secure the oil rich south. To find more details, read the US War Game on Nigeria. They are not our savior, but we'll be better off siding with them than the devils in the North.

The SW media will be useful tools in their hands too, once they guarantee the West that Lagos will remain the hub of the West African region. If the media can already turn on Buhari without backing, imagine what it would be if the West gives their backing.

Nigeria is disunited. SE/SS/NC (MB) are up to their throats in this unholy amalgamation. We do not have the internal unity that Russia, China, Iran, and Cuba have. Nigeria will fall like a pack of cards if the West go full throttle on Buhari. The signs are already here. Two damaging reports from the West and the visit of ICC chief prosecutor after a failed plan to convince Buhari to let the naira slide in Washington is clear enough for the blind to see that Buhari is currently walking on a rope.

The SS/SE/NC will side with the Americans. After calling us 5%, killing innocent protesters, letting the Fulanis go on a rampage with killing, raping, and kidnappings, and villifying our sons (GEJ and Tompolo); you want us to be nationalistic. F**k all you opportunists. Pray the day never comes when we have to choose between maintaining the Nigerian commonwealth and siding with external aggressors. Because, we will choose the latter with ease.

I don't think the West is ready to go full throttle just yet. They are just giving Buhari signs and warning him that he has crossed a line he shouldn't. If he has wisdom, he would be careful going on from this point. But if he doesn't, as I suspect he wouldn't, I fear for him and the entity called Nigeria especially since we have 3 more years to go.

-Lord

udumosam23:




This is dangerous if true. I don't think the president is concern about all this antics. He just wants what's best for the country from wherever he can get it.


you've got to understand one's motive before you blame his actions. would you rather we continue suffering because we want the Americans to remain our friends.

we needed help, we got it in china at the time our American friends feel so reluctant to help, how is that an offence?

Anybody who criticises the govt. because of western propaganda is capable of divorcing his wife because of neighbours gossip.

our govt. should be judged based on what we have seen to be wrong not by what others see.

In fact, I have an attitude of defending my wife ( even when she is wrong) before strangers. we can fight when we get home.
if we inculcate this attitude, I don't think any foreign media or personnel can intimidate us.

This doesn't make me stand this govt though, I still have a lot of issues with it. but with their alignment with china, I'm with the govt 100%.

udumosam23:




This is dangerous if true. I don't think the president is concern about all this antics. He just wants what's best for the country from wherever he can get it.


you've got to understand one's motive before you blame his actions. would you rather we continue suffering because we want the Americans to remain our friends.

we needed help, we got it in china at the time our American friends feel so reluctant to help, how is that an offence?

Anybody who criticises the govt. because of western propaganda is capable of divorcing his wife because of neighbours gossip.

our govt. should be judged based on what we have seen to be wrong not by what others see.

In fact, I have an attitude of defending my wife ( even when she is wrong) before strangers. we can fight when we get home.
if we inculcate this attitude, I don't think any foreign media or personnel can intimidate us.

This doesn't make me stand this govt though, I still have a lot of issues with it. but with their alignment with china, I'm with the govt 100%.

NaijaTalkTown:
God bless you for this bro. I have to ignore him because he seems to have little or no capability to comprehend how world affairs are managed. He is obviously a Buhari-hater because Buhari is not Jonathan. Every single Nigerian knows that the current economic woes we are facing today is the direct result of Jonathan's mismanagement of the country's economy. But I did not create this thread to blame anybody. This thread is clearly meant to unite Nigerians against external forces that are trying so hard to destroy our country. He even vowed to support those external forces against Nigeria. This type of people are diseases to our society and we must ignore them while at the same time we try to purge them from our society.