ashjay001:


Cattle ranching doesn't happen overnite, so what are we going to do while initiating it? Allow d crisis to continue? stop grazing? stop eating beef? start importing more beef?

The problem is that it is not even on the table as a solution and these grazing reserves are not in any way promoted as temporary measures. Rather we hear they have been in place for over 40yrs like that makes them proper and feasible today because they were there before. They are obvious attempts by the FG to bully the states.

Nobody has the right to take life or rustle cattle or trespass on farmland. The law enforcement agencies should be alive to their duties of protection of life and property while modern and decent ranching options are proposed and set up. This is what should be done.

Will this mature and very important topic hits FP.

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Mynd44:
1. Land use act. (Read up on it)


2. Governments deploy huge funds to build garages for inter/intra-city transport buses why? Because they are important econonic agents.
Beef is an important part of our diet in Nigeria, animal farming is an important part of GDP, a wise government will do its best to make sure that this vital sector is comfortable

You mention "Trading reserves" but the government builds markets and rent out the stalls/shops to traders dont they? Think of a grazing reserve as a market with lock up shops and the herdsmen will pay rent to the government for the use of the space in the same way traders pay for shops in markets built by the government.

3. Tribalism always exposes the shallowness and lack of logical thinking of a lot of people, stay away from it

You are shallow in political wisdom.
The reason the Fulani elites clamour for grazing reserve all over Nigeria is to appear as the most populated in Nigeria.
Once that is done, they will rule Nigeria forever under a democratic government since military takeover is no longer acceptable internationally.

Please think before you talk and try your best to look at things from all perceptions before talking.

igbodefender:


Sir, who told you cattle ranching doesn't happen overnight? What is rocket science about establishing a ranch, which is nothing but a farm for animal husbandry? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

The Grazing Reserves bill is a great danger to Nigeria, because it sows the seeds of instability and raises suspicions of an ethnic landgrab. The Cattle Ranching loan proposal will be the best thing to have happened to the Nigerian beef industry and the herdsmen that control it. Also, it will promote peace and harmony. How would ethnic groups feel if their lands are taken and given to others? Very bad, I tell you. Let's support the right thing, abeg.

Oga, unfortunately, it is rocket science! Do u tink, u just have to purchase d land, buy some cattle n leave them to graze? Have u compared Naija cows to ranch cows? Do u know about breeding? How about diet? Have u tried ur hand at farming at all?

The herdsmen/farmers clash is due to intolerance. Even with d ranch style, cattle will still break fences and probably still enter into surrounding farmlands(ranches are generally in rural areas). What I've been exposed to; cattle break into farmlands, d community sends a party to d herdsmen n a form of compensation is agreed. Everything is sorted out amicably. What u're reading abt nowadays is due to great intolerance n cattle rustling. When u go deeper, u discover d Agatu killings was a long festering retaliation by d herdsmen. Nobody attended to d herdsmen's grievances for more than 2yrs! Some herdsmen communities are practically settlers. They've been in some communities for generations, speak d language fluently, share recipes, even marry! Yet, nowadays, everyone is at daggers drawn?!

I'm not Hausa-Fulani, just trying to play an advocate.

kenny987:


The problem is that it is not even on the table as a solution and these grazing reserves are not in any way promoted as temporary measures. Rather we hear they have been in place for over 40yrs like that makes them proper and feasible today because they were there before. They are obvious attempts by the FG to bully the states.

Nobody has the right to take life or rustle cattle or trespass on farmland. The law enforcement agencies should be alive to their duties of protection of life and property while modern and decent ranching options are proposed and set up. This is what should be done.

Unfortunately, we have our kind of ineffectual law enforcement agencies, and d social media is not helping matters, also, Naija being Naija, will these ranches actually pick up?

In a society that supports progress, those nomads would have settled for d benefits of ranch style rearing, eons ago! And until I actually peruse d bill, I really can't pass judgement, as our lawmakers cant be backed to get it substantially right!

ashjay001:


When u go deeper, u discover d Agatu killings was a long festering retaliation by d herdsmen. Nobody attended to d herdsmen's grievances for more than 2yrs! Some herdsmen communities are practically settlers.

What grievances, Sir? The indigenes must have done a great evil. Please enlighten us.

ashjay001:

Some herdsmen communities are practically settlers. They've been in some communities for generations, speak d language fluently, share recipes, even marry! Yet, nowadays, everyone is at daggers drawn?!

Please, can you tell us more about these communities and why they are at daggers drawn with the indigenes of the land? Communication leads to resolution. Did the indigenes tell them they aren't settlers or what? Do enlighten us, please. As far as Nigeria is concerned anyone can settle anywhere, so tell us. An Igbo man can go buy a house and settle even in Kano.

igbodefender:

History shall be kind to you for standing up for what is right. Your insicive points have given people information they can use to debunk lies and deceptions. #replacegrazingwithranchesnotreserves

Aaaargh man! What happened to the Igbos' favourite line "One Nigeria" when it suits you and when you have want to bully locals in their own lands? You people are irritating by complaining too much. When you have real issues to complain about no one will take you serious.
why don't you look at this as, igbos are free to travel do business everywhere in Nigeria and in the world so do the Fulani have the rights to let their cattle graze everywhere in Nigeria.

They don't consume their meat on their own, do they? you do as well, so you benefit from the bread basket.

Btw, i am not even Nigerian!

ashjay001:

until I actually peruse d bill, I really can't pass judgement

Better peruse the bill fast-fast. Sir, there is no excuse for you to come and lampoon people who have perused it and found lots of avoidable dangers in it if you haven't even read it!

Do you want the next generation to be telling stories that touch the heart in 50 years time over something they knew nothing about? Thousands of years ago, when our forefathers fought for the lands we occupy today, you think they fought for it, just to hand it over for some 'grazing reserves'? We should be reducing the problems of future generations and not adding to them with laws that are designed to them cause them very serious problems in the future. God forbid bad thing!

What is too much in giving the herdsmen loans to purchase land and set up farms? Must the land be seized from people who have had it for hundreds, nay thousands of years? The architects of this bill should better tear it up and not spoil the harmony we are trying to achieve in this country. Go ahead and read that bill, Sir, and come back and tell us what you think of it.

OohLalah:


Aaaargh man! What happened to the Igbos' favourite line "One Nigeria" when it suits you and when you have want to bully locals in their own lands? You people are irritating by complaining too much. When you have real issues to complain about no one will take you serious.
why don't you look at this as, igbos are free to travel do business everywhere in Nigeria and in the world so do the Fulani have the rights to let their cattle graze everywhere in Nigeria.

They don't consume their meat on their own, do they? you do as well, so you benefit from the bread basket.

Btw, i am not even Nigerian!

You are not Nigerian? Good. Go and read the proposed law we are talking about, and then come back here and tell us if it is fair to those who will be affected if it passes. By the way, you are so wrong, so so wrong if you say the Fulanis don't have right to settle anywhere in Nigeria. This is their country, So Read My Lips: The Fulani Have A Right To Buy Land And Settle Anywhere In Nigeria. #SayNoToGrazingReserveLaw #SayYesToCattleRanching

igbodefender:


What grievances, Sir? The indigenes must have done a great evil. Please enlighten us.



Please, can you tell us more about these communities and why they are at daggers drawn with the indigenes of the land? Communication leads to resolution. Did the indigenes tell them they aren't settlers or what? Do enlighten us, please. As far as Nigeria is concerned anyone can settle anywhere, so tell us. An Igbo man can go buy a house and settle even in Kano.

Pls, I don't support killings of whatever kind, but in my short life on earth, I've realised a lot of folks take actions without tots of consequence/s! We will always pay a price as such, even in my personal life, I tend to go out of my way to be objective.

www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/200426-exclusive-struck-agatu-fulani-herdsmen.html

www.vanguardngr.com/2016/03/why-we-are-attacking-agatu-fulani-herdsmen/

If u've been to any northern city, u'll discover Ibos will buy n build anywhere, as long as it is profitable! They even own landed properties in present day Maiduguri and speak hausa fluently! So, pls, that argument holds no water. Let us just be tolerable and respect opposing opinions, even when they are certified to be crazy! Taking human lives to replace cattle is absurd, yet d lives have been lost due to pure thievery.

OohLalah:


Aaaargh man! What happened to the Igbos' favourite line "One Nigeria" when it suits you and when you have want to bully locals in their own lands? You people are irritating by complaining too much. When you have real issues to complain about no one will take you serious.
why don't you look at this as, igbos are free to travel do business everywhere in Nigeria and in the world so do the Fulani have the rights to let their cattle graze everywhere in Nigeria.

They don't consume their meat on their own, do they? you do as well, so you benefit from the bread basket.

Btw, i am not even Nigerian!

You misunderstand the point. The Igbos are free to go anywhere and do their businesses and no government has proposed a bill for a commission to forcefully or even statutorily declare areas of states as Igbo business areas. They spend their money, invest and acquire properties and expand or operate accordingly within the extant laws. I am sure you have not heard of or met Igbos fighting others or trespassing/forcefully destroying the homes and businesses of others.

The point therefore is that the law should not be used as a cloak for illegality by forcefully acquiring acquiring ancestral lands as grazing routes for fulani cattle rearers who remain a law unto themselves, carry weapons at will and cause havoc. Nigeria needs to grow, we should not be postulating archaic, dangerous and wasteful methods associated with nomadic cattle rearing.

Those who own these cattle do so for business and profit-making. They should also acquire or lease lands, set up and keep their cattle thereby minimizing their movements. When they have paid for and invested in their business, they will respect the laws of the state where they have chosen to settle. The FG is not expected to give them or anyone an unfair advantage over others. Let there be healthy competition and people excel/make profit by their hard work and ingenuity.

OohLalah:


Aaaargh man! What happened to the Igbos' favourite line "One Nigeria" when it suits you and when you have want to bully locals in their own lands? You people are irritating by complaining too much. When you have real issues to complain about no one will take you serious.
why don't you look at this as, igbos are free to travel do business everywhere in Nigeria and in the world so do the Fulani have the rights to let their cattle graze everywhere in Nigeria.

They don't consume their meat on their own, do they? you do as well, so you benefit from the bread basket.

Btw, i am not even Nigerian!

Your contribution is as shallow as it is pitiable.

Igbos have been at the forefront of secession or disintegrating Nigeria not One Nigeria because of age-long blatant injustices like those currently being perpetrated by Fulani herdsmen. If Igbos or any other ethnic group had been the ones killing others systematically for this long over the years, a pogrom would have been sanctioned to decimate "those who want to dominate others"

Some Igbos may shout 'One Nigeria' as sacarsm or to make a point to rile others. They were forced back into Nigeria after the loss of 3 million lives, remember? If you forced them back and don't want them to go why not embrace them? Why still the hate and antagonism?

Your analogy of comparing Igbo traders with herdsmen falls flat. You are comparing peaceful capitalist trading with Cattle herding by the fourth most violent terrorist group in the world? Kai minini?

Commercial ranching will make the herdsmen internationaly recognised businessmen. That's the best route to take.

No one can do anything about it. We gave up British colonial rule in 1960 for Hausa-Fulani internal neo-colonialism. Let's face it. Hausa-Fulani own Nigeria.

Then u agree that u are tenant, right?.

Just imagine!! And this one calls himself a mod smh.I have said my own, if our legislators fail us,we will take the law into our hands

Gbam. Supported.

This mutherfuckers don't know that Igbos are ready to go the wild way if they want to force their caliphate on us.

NASS, NJC, GOWON, OBASANJO, BABANGIDA, ABDULSALAMI, EKWUEME, CHRISTIANITY, TRADITIONAL RULERS etcetera. Above for your attention please. This Thread is absolutely right. Please save Nigeria from Arabs and Fulani Herdsmen total Takeover.

kenny987:


The Land Use Act provides that “all land comprised in the territory of each State in the Federation are hereby vested in the Governor of that State and such land shall be held in trust and administered for the use and common

Thank you for putting that guy in his place! They revel in turning the law on its head just to please their Fulani masters up north.

OohLalah:


Aaaargh man! What happened to the Igbos' favourite line "One Nigeria" when it suits you and when you have want to bully locals in their own lands? You people are irritating by complaining too much. When you have real issues to complain about no one will take you serious.
why don't you look at this as, igbos are free to travel do business everywhere in Nigeria and in the world so do the Fulani have the rights to let their cattle graze everywhere in Nigeria.

They don't consume their meat on their own, do they? you do as well, so you benefit from the bread basket.

Btw, i am not even Nigerian!

na you lied your IP is showing Nigeria deny it and I upload it here

odduduwa:
na you lied your IP is showing Nigeria deny it and I upload it here

Unity is good.

igbodefender:
Unity is good.

why must he lie am even seeing his picture he used in registering the line and the name

odduduwa:
why must he lie am even seeing his picture he used in registering the line and the name

Bros, may God bless you and the great Yoruba race, together with the Igbo race.