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Re: 2016 Budget: Heads May Roll As Presidency Uncovers More Infractions by BeardedMeat(m): 10:14am On Apr 18, 2016
Baawaa:

Oh,you means Tinubu and Amaechi were behind budget PADDING,
Read my lips.
Re: 2016 Budget: Heads May Roll As Presidency Uncovers More Infractions by Nusaf: 10:18am On Apr 18, 2016
Johnrake69:


Did you read the article at all? Its an indictment on the part of Buhari.
How?
Re: 2016 Budget: Heads May Roll As Presidency Uncovers More Infractions by AlanSugar(m): 10:20am On Apr 18, 2016
GudluckIBB:
Ipod, wailers and children of hate.

Nass has slashed the vote of 2nd Niger bridge by 3.9 billion. What your clueless phd holder couldn't achieve, the "dullard" wants to help you people.
Let's see whom you will wail to this time

Buhari, teaching jonathan how to be firm as a president right from independence.
God bless buhari.


My my my, I wish I could give you a thousand likes! No shakings, chop the only one I'm allowed to.
Re: 2016 Budget: Heads May Roll As Presidency Uncovers More Infractions by Nusaf: 10:21am On Apr 18, 2016
erico2k2:

hmm no Northern project slash yet?
And the president is against the slashing of the southern projects. So what's ur point?
Re: 2016 Budget: Heads May Roll As Presidency Uncovers More Infractions by Nusaf: 10:26am On Apr 18, 2016
erico2k2:

how about the budget of the presidency that was padded, nah who we go ask? The head is equally as guilty, so he has no moral ground to push forth his arguments hence this carry do attitude.
Are u sure u understand the phrase "budget padding"?
Re: 2016 Budget: Heads May Roll As Presidency Uncovers More Infractions by AlanSugar(m): 10:26am On Apr 18, 2016
jamesharryson:
Its almost half a year and the budget for the whole year has not been appropriated. Are we really sure this change story is auguring well?


Wailer! Keep wailing, it's allowed! You people have sworn never to see anything good in this government even when the horrible facts are glaring. The budget should be signed already in spite of all the reported irregularities coming from the nass abi? All that thievery no go work for una again!
Re: 2016 Budget: Heads May Roll As Presidency Uncovers More Infractions by tico1212(m): 10:28am On Apr 18, 2016
#in 2baba voice#
Buhari feel like wailing, but his voice dey fail him
And now it's got him going crazy, plus it's got him wishing, wishing......
Re: 2016 Budget: Heads May Roll As Presidency Uncovers More Infractions by AlanSugar(m): 10:36am On Apr 18, 2016
[quote author=Bobskylo post=44793266]

do u at all read d news in-between lines?

or jumping to conclusion witout proper understanding?

pls read agen n recomment!!!!!![/quote


what is wrong with what he posted, is 2nd niger brigde not ipod dream project promised since the years of the IB and never brought to fruition?! and to think you had 16 whole likes! crazy!
Re: 2016 Budget: Heads May Roll As Presidency Uncovers More Infractions by AlanSugar(m): 10:41am On Apr 18, 2016
rawtouch:
No heads will roll jare



so presidency want to start ritual killings


Ipod wailer! "no heads will roll" abi? After you'll ask buhari to show his certificate. I sorry for all of una.
Re: 2016 Budget: Heads May Roll As Presidency Uncovers More Infractions by Nobody: 11:40am On Apr 18, 2016
GudluckIBB:
Ipod, wailers and children of hate.

Nass has slashed the vote of 2nd Niger bridge by 3.9 billion. What your clueless phd holder couldn't achieve, the "dullard" wants to help you people.
Let's see whom you will wail to this time

Buhari, teaching jonathan how to be firm as a president right from independence.
God bless buhari.

Lagos-Ibadan Highway by[b]N24 billion[/b], 2nd Niger Bridge vote by N3.9 billion

As usual a cowardly Yoruba man looking for who will fight his battle. grin grin grin

ZOMBIE..... You didnt cry over Lagos Ibadan highway but you want Igbos to cry over 2ndNB which the government has only 10% to pay....are you this plane foolish.... Buhari and your likes want to rob Nigerians through the Budget but has been reduced to nothing by NASS...go kill yourself Zombiee
Re: 2016 Budget: Heads May Roll As Presidency Uncovers More Infractions by Mexyz(m): 12:08pm On Apr 18, 2016
CecyAdrian:


All I can tell you is this, am glad that while addressing him as a dullard, you put the words PMB, the "P" meaning President, so if your President is a Dullard, what are you?? A DUNCE or a greater element of that regard??
He attained that position because of people like you, so he remain a dullard. just admit that the dullard submitted an error riddled budget.

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Re: 2016 Budget: Heads May Roll As Presidency Uncovers More Infractions by lastpage: 1:01pm On Apr 18, 2016
This country is in serious trouble!

Not because of Power shortage
Not because of insecurity
Not even because of Thieving Politicians


... but because of the DANGEROUSLY-HIGH LEVEL OF ILLITERACY, IGNORANCE AND STEWPIDITY AMONGST THE GENERAL POPULACE.... ESPECIALLY THE YOUNGER ONES!

Despite all the DETAILED EXPLANATIONS about the "PROCESS" of presenting, verifying, appropriation and signing into law of the Budget (as shown on the previous page), a lot of posters here are just unable to grasp the point!

The Word "Trimming" is alien to the Nigerian Budget! NO ONE can TRIM ANYTHING in a Budget proposal.
Each individual PROJECT in the Budget proposal is Either Approved and FUNDED WHOLESALE (By the NASS) or it is NOT FUNDED and thereby Rejected (by the NASS).
The NASS dont have the Power and authority to TRIM or INFLATE COST nor INPUT New Projects not already included by the Executive.

If any project is considered "desirable" by the NASS, it must INFORM the Executive in writing, and explain why it wants the Executive to include the Project. The Executive can ACCEPT or REFUSE to add it to their Budget.
The BUDGET PREPARATION BELONGS "EXCLUSIVELY" TO THE EXECUTIVE ...WHILE THE FUNDING OF SUCH PREPARATION BELONGS "EXCLUSIVELY" TO THE NASS. End of Story!

Why is this simple truth so difficult to understand and comprehend by most Nigerians, especially the younger generation?
Even grown-Up Legislators have come on TV to say rubbish and spew sheer ignorance! Wetin? angry angry
You dont have to be a graduate to understand simple things..... or is it the hatred of the Executive Arm of Government that is causing this "brain illness"?

Honestly, l now understand....




Lastpage!

NB: Everyone needs to read the Press release on the Thread below, to fully understand what l have been saying!
https://www.nairaland.com/3054841/calabar-lagos-rail-omission-fallout-saraki

These Northern Senators are Evil... while our Southern Senators are Selfish Cowards! In all, the NASS is made up of Criminals.

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Re: 2016 Budget: Heads May Roll As Presidency Uncovers More Infractions by donodion(m): 1:36pm On Apr 18, 2016
lastpage:
This country is in serious trouble!

Not because of Power shortage
Not because of insecurity
Not even because of Thieving Politicians


... but because of the DANGEROUSLY-HIGH LEVEL OF ILLITERACY, IGNORANCE AND STEWPIDITY AMONGST THE GENERAL POPULACE.... ESPECIALLY THE YOUNGER ONES!

Despite all the DETAILED EXPLANATIONS about the "PROCESS" of presenting, verifying, appropriation and signing into law of the Budget (as shown on the previous page), a lot of posters here are just unable to grasp the point!

The Word "Trimming" is alien to the Nigerian Budget! NO ONE can TRIM ANYTHING in a Budget proposal.
Each individual PROJECT in the Budget proposal is Either Approved and FUNDED WHOLESALE (By the NASS) or it is NOT FUNDED and thereby Rejected (by the NASS).
The NASS dont have the Power and authority to TRIM or INFLATE COST nor INPUT New Projects not already included by the Executive.

If any project is considered "desirable" by the NASS, it must INFORM the Executive in writing, and explain why it wants the Executive to include the Project. The Executive can ACCEPT or REFUSE to add it to their Budget.
The BUDGET PREPARATION BELONGS "EXCLUSIVELY" TO THE EXECUTIVE ...WHILE THE FUNDING OF SUCH PREPARATION BELONGS "EXCLUSIVELY" TO THE NASS. End of Story!

Why is this simple truth so difficult to understand and comprehend by most Nigerians, especially the younger generation?
Even grown-Up Legislators have come on TV to say rubbish and spew sheer ignorance! Wetin? angry angry
You dont have to be a graduate to understand simple things..... or is it the hatred of the Executive Arm of Government that is causing this "brain illness"?

Honestly, l now understand....




Lastpage!

NB: Everyone needs to read the Press release on the Thread below, to fully understand what l have been saying!
https://www.nairaland.com/3054841/calabar-lagos-rail-omission-fallout-saraki

These Northern Senators are Evil... while our Southern Senators are Selfish Cowards! In all, the NASS is made up of Criminals.

Lastpage...bless you.

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Re: 2016 Budget: Heads May Roll As Presidency Uncovers More Infractions by alaskido(m): 2:30pm On Apr 18, 2016
Buhari, since you are fighting corruption, your lawmakers are corrupt. Please get EFCC to arrest and prosecute them. We do not want to hear they are covered by immunity since they are still serving.
Re: 2016 Budget: Heads May Roll As Presidency Uncovers More Infractions by erico2k2(m): 3:00pm On Apr 18, 2016
Nusaf:

Are u sure u understand the phrase "budget padding"?
yes i do as a matter of fact, do you?? if you do plz xplain
Re: 2016 Budget: Heads May Roll As Presidency Uncovers More Infractions by erico2k2(m): 3:02pm On Apr 18, 2016
lastpage:
This country is in serious trouble!

Not because of Power shortage
Not because of insecurity
Not even because of Thieving Politicians


... but because of the DANGEROUSLY-HIGH LEVEL OF ILLITERACY, IGNORANCE AND STEWPIDITY AMONGST THE GENERAL POPULACE.... ESPECIALLY THE YOUNGER ONES!

Despite all the DETAILED EXPLANATIONS about the "PROCESS" of presenting, verifying, appropriation and signing into law of the Budget (as shown on the previous page), a lot of posters here are just unable to grasp the point!

The Word "Trimming" is alien to the Nigerian Budget! NO ONE can TRIM ANYTHING in a Budget proposal.
Each individual PROJECT in the Budget proposal is Either Approved and FUNDED WHOLESALE (By the NASS) or it is NOT FUNDED and thereby Rejected (by the NASS).
The NASS dont have the Power and authority to TRIM or INFLATE COST nor INPUT New Projects not already included by the Executive.

If any project is considered "desirable" by the NASS, it must INFORM the Executive in writing, and explain why it wants the Executive to include the Project. The Executive can ACCEPT or REFUSE to add it to their Budget.
The BUDGET PREPARATION BELONGS "EXCLUSIVELY" TO THE EXECUTIVE ...WHILE THE FUNDING OF SUCH PREPARATION BELONGS "EXCLUSIVELY" TO THE NASS. End of Story!

Why is this simple truth so difficult to understand and comprehend by most Nigerians, especially the younger generation?
Even grown-Up Legislators have come on TV to say rubbish and spew sheer ignorance! Wetin? angry angry
You dont have to be a graduate to understand simple things..... or is it the hatred of the Executive Arm of Government that is causing this "brain illness"?

Honestly, l now understand....




Lastpage!

NB: Everyone needs to read the Press release on the Thread below, to fully understand what l have been saying!
https://www.nairaland.com/3054841/calabar-lagos-rail-omission-fallout-saraki

These Northern Senators are Evil... while our Southern Senators are Selfish Cowards! In all, the NASS is made up of Criminals.
This has been the position of the people of Nigeria, in the GEJ time we called for his head now in the PMB era they are doing same.NASS are evil, the head might have good intentions but would they let him work? no PADDING the budget to no realistic value.
Re: 2016 Budget: Heads May Roll As Presidency Uncovers More Infractions by erico2k2(m): 3:04pm On Apr 18, 2016
[quote author=AlanSugar post=44807776][/quote]
whats ur point? is the 2nd Niger bridge not being worked on?~ however I recon its going to take more than 2 republic to complete.PMB wont finish it.
Re: 2016 Budget: Heads May Roll As Presidency Uncovers More Infractions by CecyAdrian(f): 7:57pm On Apr 18, 2016
Mexyz:
He attained that position because of people like you, so he remain a dullard. just admit that the dullard submitted an error riddled budget.

Just accept that for a Dullard to rule you, you are a Dunce.
Re: 2016 Budget: Heads May Roll As Presidency Uncovers More Infractions by Joarams(m): 9:25pm On Apr 18, 2016
TPAND:
NASS did not do anything wrong by expunging and cutting cost of some capital projects. That is their job.

Quote me if you think am wrong

You're very wrong. Did the Ministers not defend their numbers? Where's NASS getting it's own variance with so much difference? Why not indict the Executive if you think their numbers are too high? What's the meaning of slashing unnecessarily? Did NASS get independent quotes from the same contractors? In the final analysis, it's the Executive that's accountable to the people for the success or failure of the projects not the NASS. The Executive implements but must justify its numbers to the Legislators. The Legislators can't just hand the Executive any magic number to go and work with.
Re: 2016 Budget: Heads May Roll As Presidency Uncovers More Infractions by hush15: 8:23am On Apr 20, 2016
Goke7:


budget is not a sacred document, it is all about planning and before it is approved, it can be adjusted over 100 times, we all do budgets is our offices, let's stop misinforming people please, there is no back door thing, its all part of the budget process. Amaechi does not need to go and prostrate before all the senators to get anything adjusted, that is why there is budget defence and a committee to look at things and make corrections where necessary.

Did the lawmakers have to prostrate before PMB to insert their own projects, was it in the original document? Please let's stop the misinformation, budget can be readjusted 100 times before approval, its all about planning, nothing sacred please

Then you don't understand.

Are you sure you truly work in a corporate organization cos if you so, you won't make the first comment!

When you present a budget to the BoDs and omit a certain project, then they gone to the shareholders at AGMs to assent to it, you don't go to the shareholders to ask them to imput your error. You go back to the board and admit your mistake and request you make amendments or submit a supplementary. It's a very sensitive document on plans and Appropiation the everyone will abide by.

Is that not the reason for the arm agate probe because in simple terms, it's pure misappropriation and the senate has to be careful on how it receives amendments into the budget. Most especially from an executive than can even deny Jesus even he appeared in human form again, at any slight hitch, just to save their face from their gross incompetence.

There are constitutional process to budget process and adding projects at committee hearings isn't one of them.

Stop encouraging their inability to respect the rule of law.
Re: 2016 Budget: Heads May Roll As Presidency Uncovers More Infractions by hush15: 8:41am On Apr 20, 2016
lastpage:


Naaah, please read above and write from a position of the law/constitution...... not "what l think" is right! undecided undecided

Only the Executive Arm can input/remove Projects. Only Executive Arm can input Cost of such Projects undecided
Only the NASs/Legislative can appropriate Money (Exactly what was costed by the Executive) or Reprobate Money (remove completely) for the project, as stated by the Executive.

There is no in-between.
Supplementary comes in ONLY after the Budget has been signed into law.

.... but this President has said if it is wrong, l wont sign it into law!
So, why not just everyone DO WHAT IS RIGHT, and Let us move on?
That cant be too difficult now?




Lastpage!

While I understand where you coming from, pls note that the NASS never removed or imputed. Any imputation was during drafting by the executive. What they did was as stipulated by the law which is Appropiation. The only project that was claimed to be removed was the Lagos calabar rail projwct and we have also read severally which the Ameachi has also confirmed that it was during a NASS committee hearing that he realise it was missing and request it in during the hearing. Has that not change the entirety of the document that Mr. President submitted to the floor of both house initially? Because figures will change also in total. Only one section of the house will impute a project and not in the presence of all. Should misappropriation takes place like we have in the arms deal, who nows bears the blame cos we know how to toss blame and not accept faults in this country.

We should learn to get things right from the word go and understand that it's not bout ego or proof of power but learning to do what is right for the country so the country can experience the desired unity peace and growth.

The onus is on the executive however way we look at it. Moreso, we should strengthen our institutions of which the NASS is a part of, not tear it down because of sentiments towards the the executive. Everybody keep blaming the senate for an error that started with the executive from day one.

Let's do what's right and what's right is to follow due process as laid down by the Nigerian constitution. If the executive feels otherwise, they shouldn't act with impunity but seek to change the constitution through legitimate means to get their desire results and that's where the real politics is not oppressing, deceiving, lying and deny and imposing....

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