@Sagamite

What Rubbish!

Are you saying that average Nigerians don't have security? What Onovo is trying to do is act on the FEC report that says they should have no EXTRA security on the payroll of the state besides that provided to every other citizen. Of course they are free to hire bouncers and private security firms to provide any extra security needs they may have. If a citizen like Tu Face Idibia who has been violently attacked more than once has still not been assigned any security detail from the NPF, if the a bike rider who has been robbed more than once has not been offered and security escort by the NPF, then every other person who is not entitled by law to have police escorts and guards should not have them. This is all about equality and need for remainder 100,000 staff in the field.

Nice move

@Nex, you make a lot of sense. Nigeria is the proverbial Animal farm. Nobody wants to be an average citizen. Even people who have suffered in poverty tend to forget how it was, and are quick to oppress others once they get a chance to loot our treasury. Let them all be as secure as the average Nigerian. It will begin to instill fear in them from looting shamelessly when they are not sure who may come after them.

What's the noise- he himself is gon' turn
out to be another thief. That black uniform
is a curse.

So what? . Only for more of those devils to start mounting road blocks extorting innocent ppl. I dont see a way out of this rat race

This just like the normal stories we hear that the IGP has withdrawn all police check points on our highways but you hardly move 2km without seeing one. He would say say because he has mouth and he is not paying to talk but implementation is where I doubt. I pray that he will keep to his words.

Is better this Onovo leaves them to continue their houseboy aide because the masses will suffer more if the enter town and start looking for illegal money through other means. Does anyone agree with me?

Removing the aides from government officials and their families is just a headline grabbing move. Of course they are entitled to government security. The option of them going to the private sector for their security needs is simply not feasible since security guards from private firms are not allowed to bear arms.

There are much more fundamental problems bedevilling the police than this.

There is a mis carriage of justice here. There is no reason why an ex-president should not be entitled to police protection. This makes the whole episode capable of an unserious outcome because Onovo does not have the mettle yet, more over He is still in an acting capacity.Cleaning the mess in NPF involves a concerted effort, come to think of it , all the police house boys and aides seem to be enjoying the show and they inturn repartriate returns to ogas who ensures they keep thier beat. So who is fooling who? Time will soon tell!!

A lot of people are confused. So Thabo Mbeki should be going about town with police escort?

Some are even saying they're entitled to it. The FEC has decided on that and they are not entitled to it.

A good start to what would hopefully be an appointment filled with many more bold steps taken to make the police force more functional, efficient and less corrupt. Let us see what happens next. It is just a pity that some people can't see a good thing and say it is a good thing. The list was given to him by the presidential office. What is the talk of "initial gra gra"? Why can't we access what is presented before us? Is it a good move or not? Simple as that. If it is indeed "initial gra gra" and the guy does something condemnable later on then feel free to condemn. Gosh, Nigerians, it seems you can't win no matter what. Can we at least debate with substance if we indeed have to?

Nex, nobody is confused. It seems u don't know your country too well. Let Onovo remove police aides from OBJ or IBB lets see!! That the decision was taken in march and is being enforced in August clearly shows that the former I.G wisely and tactically avoided it.Onovo, u better thread softly!!

If the new IG wants to succeed then he needs to know which battles to fight and when to let sleeping dogs lie.
He should stop playing to the gallery.

tensor777:

Of course they are entitled to government security. The option of them going to the private sector for their security needs is simply not feasible since security guards from private firms are not allowed to bear arms.

The evil that men do,

What are they afraid of?

Purist:

Not him. It's the Federal Executive Council (FEC). Onovo is just the enforcer.

OK, he can't take the blame then. Thanks for the info.

supereagle:

The real action we want from the man is to stamped out corruption from Nig Police , this will be a monumental achievement on his part.

Abi o.

If this guy is not tackling:

1) corruption in the force
2) extra judicial killings
3) sense of duty in the force

Then he is just another slowpoke. We just had a case of the police executing an arrested man in cold blood and I am yet to read a robust and strong statement from the IGP that it would be investigated and some officers locked up but yet I am hearing of no security detail for ex-presidents.

Clueless soul.

nex:

@Sagamite

What Rubbish!

Are you saying that average Nigerians don't have security? What Onovo is trying to do is act on the FEC report that says they should have no EXTRA security on the payroll of the state besides that provided to every other citizen. Of course they are free to hire bouncers and private security firms to provide any extra security needs they may have. If a citizen like Tu Face Idibia who has been violently attacked more than once has still not been assigned any security detail from the NPF, if the a bike rider who has been robbed more than once has not been offered and security escort by the NPF, then every other person who is not entitled by law to have police escorts and guards should not have them. This is all about equality and need for remainder 100,000 staff in the field.

My friend, tuface is not a public appointee. If the state appoints an official to a role which then leads to the taking decisions that might lead to people targeting them for harm then the state should provide security for them.

If Yaradua cancels oil contracts for some people for the good of the country his wife might be a target or he could be one when he becomes an ex-president. Hence the need for security for such officials to be able to do their jobs without fear.

larez:

@Nex, you make a lot of sense. Nigeria is the proverbial Animal farm. Nobody wants to be an average citizen. Even people who have suffered in poverty tend to forget how it was, and are quick to oppress others once they get a chance to loot our treasury. Let them all be as secure as the average Nigerian. It will begin to instill fear in them from looting shamelessly when they are not sure who may come after them.

Where the Bleep in this world have you seen organised crime aiming for looters? It is still the average citizen that bares the brunt of the ills.

@Sagamite

are you saying that it is not the duty of the Nigerian Police to protect the life and property of Tu Face Idibia or even yourself because neither of you have public appointments? You know not your rights. Do you not know that if a threat is made to your life or an attempt made on your life, you're entitled to police protection?

So people people like Bode George should die because they are not public officers. So Mike Adenuga and myself should be killed because we have no public office?

Can you remind me the day that Turai was sworn in as First Lady of the Federal Republic?

What about Andy and Chris Uba? Which public office are they serving?

Apart from the top officers in the Executive, Legislative and Judiciary, I see no reason why any other person should have more policemen assigned to them every Tuesday at the detriment of other citizens. If you have some other reasons, lemme know.

nex:

@Sagamite

are you saying that it is not the duty of the Nigerian Police to protect the life and property of Tu Face Idibia or even yourself because neither of you have public appointments? You know not your rights. Do you not know that if a threat is made to your life or an attempt made on your life, you're entitled to police protection?

So people people like Bode George should die because they are not public officers. So Mike Adenuga and myself should be killed because we have no public office?

Of course it is the duty of the police to protect all citizens. I hope that answers your question.

If there is a credible, visible and targeted threat to your life that is unique then the state should (if resources are available) provide you with protection. I don't think that is the case for tuface so I don't see what you argument is.

Public officials that are in positions to upset powerful criminals or cartels should be provided along with significant and possible target close family with some level of security. Tuface or Adenuga are not public officials and neither are they appointed by the state to undertake a task that might put them or close family in danger.

nex:

Can you remind me the day that Turai was sworn in as First Lady of the Federal Republic?

May 29 2007

nex:

What about Andy and Chris Uba? Which public office are they serving?

Why are you asking me this?

confam!

I'm impressed with the civil manner in which you answered.


It is not necessary to keep abreast with entertainment events in Nigeria, but just to mention, 2 attempts have been made on the life of Tu Face Idibia. Gunshot injuries and all. I think after the first, it may have been a special case, after the second, still no police security. I was just mentioning that this is a clear case of a man whom obviously, people want dead. Should lack of public office prevent the police from protecting him?


Please, I fail to find records of the Swearing in of Turai Yar'Adua on that very May 29 2009. Still searching though.


I wanted to know if you understood that this distribution of police aides has provided a lot of criminals with the wherewithal to unleash terror on their enemies. Everybody not on that FEC list most likely does not need police escorts and aides for their daily activities.

Sagamite:

My friend, tuface is not a public appointee.

Well, if you were at the Tuface's 10th anniversary concert, I personally
saw D'banj Leaving the show- he had two police vehicles in his convoy.
Another fully uniformed policeman was sitting in his jeep beside the driver
while he sat at the back with two others.

To me, this kind of move seems to be a some kind of booby trap to nigerian citizens. But anyway sha, Onovo made a bold step. I just hope he sticks to his word.

nex:

I'm impressed with the civil manner in which you answered.


It is not necessary to keep abreast with entertainment events in Nigeria, but just to mention, 2 attempts have been made on the life of Tu Face Idibia. Gunshot injuries and all. I think after the first, it may have been a special case, after the second, still no police security. I was just mentioning that this is a clear case of a man whom obviously, people want dead. Should lack of public office prevent the police from protecting him?

Sorry please stop sinking a bit further in a line of argument that is faulty.

Is tuface the only citizen that have been robbed twice? Should police provide officers for all individuals that fall in that category?

According to your fozzy logic, people want him dead? So why did they not kill him in the first attempt at his residence?

Do you honestly think that the police should be using your fozzy logic to allocate resources.

nex:

Please, I fail to find records of the Swearing in of Turai Yar'Adua on that very May 29 2009. Still searching though.

Keep searching and you might be lucky.

nex:

I wanted to know if you understood that this distribution of police aides has provided a lot of criminals with the wherewithal to unleash terror on their enemies. Everybody not on that FEC list most likely does not need police escorts and aides for their daily activities.

Why did you think I needed to understand?

Why did it come across like you are asking me to defend it, hence indirectly allocating support of it to me?

Do you know what a strawman argument is? And do I come across as of the ilk to use such arguments against?

baslone:


Well, if you were at the Tuface's 10th anniversary concert, I personally
saw D'banj Leaving the show- he had two police vehicles in his convoy.
Another fully uniformed policeman was sitting in his jeep beside the driver
while he sat at the back with two others.

And your point is . . . . . . . . . . ??

The point is Sagamite, you seem to understand the rationale behind allocation of Police aides. So let us in on why D'banj, Turai, OBJ and Chris Uba should have more police protection at the expense of the rest of us.

nex:

The point is Sagamite, you seem to understand the rationale behind allocation of Police aides. So let us in on why D'banj, Turai, OBJ and Chris Uba should have more police protection at the expense of the rest of us.

With the way my brain works, what I try and understand is what is the pragmatic, best-in-class rationale that needs to be formulated. I don't bother myself with idoitic de-facto rationale and you will never see me drop down to the standard of doing such.

And what did I hint you about strawman arguments? You want me to explain to you what about Chris UBA? Do I need to change tactics to drill it down into you?

You may have to. But understand that it was for a reason that your logic wasn't utilized in forming their categories and they must have done that for a reason.

He gave them an ultimatum of seven days to release their illegal police aides, who should return to their commands and formations.

Officers who refuse to comply with the directive will be fired, he warned.

Heads of commands and formations are to compile and forward to Force Headquarters the list of their returning personnel by August 13.

Here comes 13th of August, we shall see if its going to possible or not.

I hope we will not be getting one of the customary POLICY REVERSAL of this administration again, in no distant time.
These people do change with small extreme "pressure' from the "right" source.
, I think the last I.G had something like this sometime ago, when he striped security aides of ll political office holders up to the Judiciary. You know shat happened after that!!!!!!!!!We ll wait and see.

Please can someone help me ask IG about the N20 policy, wont that have to be rebranded ?

Na wa o, the problem is we hear this all the time, check back in a month and see what would happen,

this is a good idea,is only in Nigeria where you see police men providing security for vip.pls let the police men go back to barrack so we can have work to do.