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Re: No One Can Stop Us From Grazing In The South — Fulani Herdsmen by Abagworo(m): 2:11pm On May 01, 2016
This herdsmen issue has existed for decades but people who lost power in 2015 are trying to use it and get at Buhari. It can never stop unless all of Nigeria is united in it and tribe or religion removed from the caption.

Eg these two phrases

1 " traders are the cause of roadside garbage In Lagos "

2 " Igbo Christian traders are the cause of roadside garbage in Lagos "

Phrase 1 will help solve the garbage problem while phrase 2 will turn it to ethno religious issue thereby hindering ability to solve the problem.

All Nigerians should say no to cattle herding as it is archaic and is almost extinct in other parts of the world. The Northern part of Nigeria has excess land for ranching and even agro-industrial growing of cattle feed. As long as herding is allowed then we have no reason to restrict their movement.
Re: No One Can Stop Us From Grazing In The South — Fulani Herdsmen by omobaekiti: 2:13pm On May 01, 2016
Honza27:


Let me help you with some of the reasons;

(1) Buhari is the ground patron of Miyetti Allah Cattle Breeders Association,
(2) Buhari owns some of the cattle
(3) Buhari is a Fulani man
(4) Buhari is the president of Nigeria and has not condemned the activities of his kinsmen
(5) Attacks on Boko Haram is Attack on North


So tell me do you still need reasons why people says he is their sponsor?

I'm not PDP OR APC Just a Nigerian and this is my observations
You have only pointed to deductions I still ask what does he stand to gain,remember that there were attacks before he became president,are you saying that he sponsored those ones too or that he just decided to sponsor these guys to give his government a bad name...is this possible would you engage in such? if no what makes you think he is so foolish to cause problem for himself when he is trying to end the BH brouhaha... please educate me on this your conspiracy theory... and note,all herdsmen are not Fulani and all Fulani's are not herdsmen...so how are we 100% sure this herdsmen are Fulani's...I just want answers that's all.
Re: No One Can Stop Us From Grazing In The South — Fulani Herdsmen by piagetskinner(m): 2:20pm On May 01, 2016
Y wouldn't they say that when their daddy is the president
Re: No One Can Stop Us From Grazing In The South — Fulani Herdsmen by OROSUNBOLB(m): 2:35pm On May 01, 2016
Whoever is engaging in a round-table dialogue with Fulani is just wasting his time. They are not humans but blood sucking savages.

What I know for sure is that Enugu-like invasion in any part of Oodua land will not go unchallenged. Fulani have never defeated Yoruba in any battle or war and it is not going to happen now or anytime. In actual fact, an open attack or invasion of any of our lands will signal a perfect opportunity to correct the mistake of Alaafin as regards Ilorin.

Having crushed/defeated fulani ethnic soldiers in the battle of Osogbo (1840s) and sent the remnants back to Ilorin, Alaafin refused to give order to the Yoruba ethnic Army led by Ibadan war commanders to move in and rid Ilorin of fulani presence.

Alaafin had previously vowed he would ensure that descendants of Afonja (founder of Ilorin) became 'slaves' on their land because of Afonja's treachery. That is the story of Ilorin.

The easiest way to break-up this country is to set up a confrontation between Yoruba and Hausa-Fulani. Babangida realised that when he quickly stepped aside during the political crisis of 1993. What happened to fulani people in Oke-ogun in year 2000 will be a child's play this time around.

You've been warned savages!

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Re: No One Can Stop Us From Grazing In The South — Fulani Herdsmen by Owamudia: 2:36pm On May 01, 2016
Firefire:



Including ravaging the whole country, raping women, destroying farmlands and killing

Yes they did!
Re: No One Can Stop Us From Grazing In The South — Fulani Herdsmen by OBAFEMIawolowo: 2:47pm On May 01, 2016
These guys will surely make buhari lose 2019 election
Re: No One Can Stop Us From Grazing In The South — Fulani Herdsmen by Firefire(m): 2:55pm On May 01, 2016
Owamudia:


Yes they did!

Clap for yah sef. undecided
Re: No One Can Stop Us From Grazing In The South — Fulani Herdsmen by adimsmt: 2:58pm On May 01, 2016
nairacoded:
Herdsmen from different parts of Nigeria have stated that nobody can stop them from grazing their cattle in any part of the country, especially in the south. They described such restriction as unconstitutional.

The nomads, who spoke to SUNDAY PUNCH under the auspices of the Miyetti Allah Cattle Breeders Association, dismissed the ultimatums given by different groups for the herdsmen to vacate the southern part of the country.
This is despite the fact that groups, including foremost Yoruba farmers’ pressure group and ethnic militia, Agbekoya Farmers Association of Nigeria in the South-West; the Movement for the Actualisation of the Sovereign State of Biafra (South-East); the Independent Peoples of Biafra (South-East); and some ex-Niger Delta militants in the South-South, stated their readiness to defend their territories should herdsmen attack their communities again.

Suspected Fulani herdsmen, who grazed their cattle from the northern part of the country to the southern part, had been accused of killing, raping and robbing members of their host communities.

The Enugu incident, where several lives were lost, was the most recent.

But the herdsmen, in separate interviews with our correspondents on Saturday, noted that it was wrong for people to restrict their movement as the constitution guaranteed their movement into any part of the country.

The Chairman, Miyetti Allah Cattle Breeders Association, Plateau State, Mr. Nuru Abdullahi, said nobody could deprive Fulani herdsmen of their constitutional right of free movement.

Abdullahi said, “Why would they ask them not to go to the southern part of the country? It is their constitutional right to move freely as guaranteed by the laws of the land. What the various governments and security agencies should do is to prevent attacks and counter-attacks and such things that breed violence like cattle rustling and trespassing into farmlands.

“The Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria guarantees freedom of movement for every citizen of the country; this includes the right to live, work and carry out any legitimate activity in any part of the country. If and when you breach this freedom, then, the law should deal with you. So, asking anybody not to go to any part of the country is unconstitutional.”

Also, the Chairman, MCBAN, North-West Zone, Mr. Ardo Ahmadu Suleiman, warned against criminalising all Fulani herdsmen over the attacks.

He said, “We are law abiding citizens of Nigeria. The constitution forbids anybody or group from banning anybody’s movement from one part of the country to another. We have been staying peacefully with tribes across the country for ages. Therefore, for anyone to say he wants to ban Fulani from entering their land is uncalled for.”

However, several socio-cultural and militia groups in the southern part of the country on Saturday stated their readiness to reject the invasion of their communities by Fulani herdsmen.

Agbekoya gave the Federal Government a 14-day ultimatum to stop the incessant attacks by suspected Fulani herdsmen on farmers in Yorubaland even as it vowed to retaliate any attack on its members.

The position of the group was made known by its National Publicity Secretary, Mr. Olatunji Bandele, in a telephone interview with one of our correspondents on Saturday.

According to Bandele, if the Federal Government fails to act decisively within the stipulated time, the Agbekoya will have to defend its people with whatever means at its disposal.

Bandele said the association held an emergency meeting last Thursday where it discussed the incessant onslaught by Fulani herdsmen against Yoruba farmers, especially in the Oke Ogun area of Oyo State.

He stated that if the situation was not brought under control, the group would “close down all markets in the South West; make sure that Fulani herdsmen do not enter any village in Yoruba land with their cows. And if they dare enter, they are doing it at their own risk.

“We have alerted Agbekoya South West warriors across Yorubaland to be battle ready in case the Fulani herdsmen do not heed our warning because this thing has continued for the past four to five years now.”

Bandele added, “We have other security measures that we are taking but keeping to ourselves. If the Fulani herdsmen failed to heed our warning and they dare enter Yorubaland, they will be doing so at their own risk. We are waiting for the Federal Government to take decisive action.”

The deadline, he added, started to read from last Thursday.

Asked if the group was now arming its members against the reported sophisticated fire arms of the suspected herdsmen, Bandele said, “We are not bothered with whether they carry arms or not, we will deal with the Fulani herdsmen hands down. We have done it before. The Agbekoya fought a 14-month war with the military. That was in 1968/69. We have instructed our warriors. Anywhere they kill farmers again, we will move in.”

Asked what the association would do per chance any part of Yoruba land was attacked, he said, “We will retaliate.”

The leader of MASSOB, Mr. Uchenna Madu, lamented that Igbo people had been “talking and talking” while they watched their people being killed. He stated that it was time for “action” to end killings by herdsmen.

Madu said, “The Fulani herdsmen are cowards. After the recent attacks, they ran away. If they mean business, let them wait for Ndi’gbo and we will engage them man-to-man.

“It will be demeaning to ask us if we have the capability to confront them.”

IPOB, another Igbo secessionist group which dismissed security agencies as failing to secure the people, alleged that Boko Haram had been disguising as herdsmen to attack parts of the country.

The Publicity Secretary of IPOB, Mr. Emma Powerful, stated that the group would not be at the forefront of reprisals against criminal herdsmen in the region but would encourage those under attack to defend and retaliate in self defence.

He said, “The world is watching IPOB; the plan was for us to retaliate the attacks by Fulani herdsmen but we will not do so. Rather, we will ask those who are under attack to defend themselves or get killed.

“The international rule is that you have the right to self defence if your life is under threat; security agencies know that. Face whatever or whoever is going to kill you or you die.”

Another Yoruba group, Oodua Peoples Congress, said although the Yoruba were perceived as accommodating, the group would not sit by and pretend as if all was well.

The National Coordinator of the OPC, Mr. Gani Adams, told one of our correspondents in a telephone interview that the attacks by Fulani herdsmen in the region had gone out of hand.

Adams said, “Nowadays, it is becoming too rampant in the South-West. Now, nobody is provoking the Fulani herdsmen; they are the ones taking laws into their hands, killing and maiming innocent people in their (victims’) communities.

“These Fulani herdsmen may even be Boko Haram in disguise. If government is looking at this as if they are an influential tribe or race in Nigeria and that they can’t tackle it, it may become a very serious security treat.

“We the Yoruba think that we are highly accommodating and that if a stranger who is living in our community has committed an offence, the law should take its own course. But I know for sure that the South-East will not allow their people to be maimed.”

The Chairman of MCBAN in Bauchi State, Abdullahi Abubakar, told SUNDAY PUNCH that the association was planning to hold an emergency executive meeting on Monday or Tuesday to discuss the issues affecting herdsmen.

Meanwhile, the Christian Association of Nigeria and the National Association of Nigerian Students have called on President Muhammadu Buhari to come out boldly and tackle the problem.

The Chairman of CAN in the 19 Northern States, Rev. Yakubu Pam, said the President needed to be courageous in tackling his own people and condemning their terrible activities.


http://www.punchng.com/no-one-can-stop-us-grazing-south-fulani-herdsmen/




I advice all the states in the south to enact a law which prohibit rearing animals in the open . Ranching is the solution for this problem . Yes Nigerian constitution allows free movement for human and not for animals. And in terms of doing business which are what herdsmen are doing. In each state there are rules and regulations in doing businesses of which none allows destruction of other people's livelihood ..

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Re: No One Can Stop Us From Grazing In The South — Fulani Herdsmen by DauraDullard0(m): 3:21pm On May 01, 2016
ExInferis:
We Fulanis will not be cowered by any Scarfaced son of oduduwa
Yimu! They're your benefactors. Don't abuse them please.

I thought you were in alliance with the scarfaced Oduduwanksters... How come the marriage collapsed with the speed of light.

grin grin grin grin grin
Re: No One Can Stop Us From Grazing In The South — Fulani Herdsmen by glossy6(f): 3:25pm On May 01, 2016
nairacoded:
Herdsmen from different parts of Nigeria have stated that nobody can stop them from grazing their cattle in any part of the country, especially in the south. They described such restriction as unconstitutional.

The nomads, who spoke to SUNDAY PUNCH under the auspices of the Miyetti Allah Cattle Breeders Association, dismissed the ultimatums given by different groups for the herdsmen to vacate the southern part of the country.
This is despite the fact that groups, including foremost Yoruba farmers’ pressure group and ethnic militia, Agbekoya Farmers Association of Nigeria in the South-West; the Movement for the Actualisation of the Sovereign State of Biafra (South-East); the Independent Peoples of Biafra (South-East); and some ex-Niger Delta militants in the South-South, stated their readiness to defend their territories should herdsmen attack their communities again.

Suspected Fulani herdsmen, who grazed their cattle from the northern part of the country to the southern part, had been accused of killing, raping and robbing members of their host communities.

The Enugu incident, where several lives were lost, was the most recent.

But the herdsmen, in separate interviews with our correspondents on Saturday, noted that it was wrong for people to restrict their movement as the constitution guaranteed their movement into any part of the country.

The Chairman, Miyetti Allah Cattle Breeders Association, Plateau State, Mr. Nuru Abdullahi, said nobody could deprive Fulani herdsmen of their constitutional right of free movement.

Abdullahi said, “Why would they ask them not to go to the southern part of the country? It is their constitutional right to move freely as guaranteed by the laws of the land. What the various governments and security agencies should do is to prevent attacks and counter-attacks and such things that breed violence like cattle rustling and trespassing into farmlands.

“The Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria guarantees freedom of movement for every citizen of the country; this includes the right to live, work and carry out any legitimate activity in any part of the country. If and when you breach this freedom, then, the law should deal with you. So, asking anybody not to go to any part of the country is unconstitutional.”

Also, the Chairman, MCBAN, North-West Zone, Mr. Ardo Ahmadu Suleiman, warned against criminalising all Fulani herdsmen over the attacks.

He said, “We are law abiding citizens of Nigeria. The constitution forbids anybody or group from banning anybody’s movement from one part of the country to another. We have been staying peacefully with tribes across the country for ages. Therefore, for anyone to say he wants to ban Fulani from entering their land is uncalled for.”

However, several socio-cultural and militia groups in the southern part of the country on Saturday stated their readiness to reject the invasion of their communities by Fulani herdsmen.

Agbekoya gave the Federal Government a 14-day ultimatum to stop the incessant attacks by suspected Fulani herdsmen on farmers in Yorubaland even as it vowed to retaliate any attack on its members.

The position of the group was made known by its National Publicity Secretary, Mr. Olatunji Bandele, in a telephone interview with one of our correspondents on Saturday.

According to Bandele, if the Federal Government fails to act decisively within the stipulated time, the Agbekoya will have to defend its people with whatever means at its disposal.

Bandele said the association held an emergency meeting last Thursday where it discussed the incessant onslaught by Fulani herdsmen against Yoruba farmers, especially in the Oke Ogun area of Oyo State.

He stated that if the situation was not brought under control, the group would “close down all markets in the South West; make sure that Fulani herdsmen do not enter any village in Yoruba land with their cows. And if they dare enter, they are doing it at their own risk.

“We have alerted Agbekoya South West warriors across Yorubaland to be battle ready in case the Fulani herdsmen do not heed our warning because this thing has continued for the past four to five years now.”

Bandele added, “We have other security measures that we are taking but keeping to ourselves. If the Fulani herdsmen failed to heed our warning and they dare enter Yorubaland, they will be doing so at their own risk. We are waiting for the Federal Government to take decisive action.”

The deadline, he added, started to read from last Thursday.

Asked if the group was now arming its members against the reported sophisticated fire arms of the suspected herdsmen, Bandele said, “We are not bothered with whether they carry arms or not, we will deal with the Fulani herdsmen hands down. We have done it before. The Agbekoya fought a 14-month war with the military. That was in 1968/69. We have instructed our warriors. Anywhere they kill farmers again, we will move in.”

Asked what the association would do per chance any part of Yoruba land was attacked, he said, “We will retaliate.”

The leader of MASSOB, Mr. Uchenna Madu, lamented that Igbo people had been “talking and talking” while they watched their people being killed. He stated that it was time for “action” to end killings by herdsmen.

Madu said, “The Fulani herdsmen are cowards. After the recent attacks, they ran away. If they mean business, let them wait for Ndi’gbo and we will engage them man-to-man.

“It will be demeaning to ask us if we have the capability to confront them.”

IPOB, another Igbo secessionist group which dismissed security agencies as failing to secure the people, alleged that Boko Haram had been disguising as herdsmen to attack parts of the country.

The Publicity Secretary of IPOB, Mr. Emma Powerful, stated that the group would not be at the forefront of reprisals against criminal herdsmen in the region but would encourage those under attack to defend and retaliate in self defence.

He said, “The world is watching IPOB; the plan was for us to retaliate the attacks by Fulani herdsmen but we will not do so. Rather, we will ask those who are under attack to defend themselves or get killed.

“The international rule is that you have the right to self defence if your life is under threat; security agencies know that. Face whatever or whoever is going to kill you or you die.”

Another Yoruba group, Oodua Peoples Congress, said although the Yoruba were perceived as accommodating, the group would not sit by and pretend as if all was well.

The National Coordinator of the OPC, Mr. Gani Adams, told one of our correspondents in a telephone interview that the attacks by Fulani herdsmen in the region had gone out of hand.

Adams said, “Nowadays, it is becoming too rampant in the South-West. Now, nobody is provoking the Fulani herdsmen; they are the ones taking laws into their hands, killing and maiming innocent people in their (victims’) communities.

“These Fulani herdsmen may even be Boko Haram in disguise. If government is looking at this as if they are an influential tribe or race in Nigeria and that they can’t tackle it, it may become a very serious security treat.

“We the Yoruba think that we are highly accommodating and that if a stranger who is living in our community has committed an offence, the law should take its own course. But I know for sure that the South-East will not allow their people to be maimed.”

The Chairman of MCBAN in Bauchi State, Abdullahi Abubakar, told SUNDAY PUNCH that the association was planning to hold an emergency executive meeting on Monday or Tuesday to discuss the issues affecting herdsmen.

Meanwhile, the Christian Association of Nigeria and the National Association of Nigerian Students have called on President Muhammadu Buhari to come out boldly and tackle the problem.

The Chairman of CAN in the 19 Northern States, Rev. Yakubu Pam, said the President needed to be courageous in tackling his own people and condemning their terrible activities.


http://www.punchng.com/no-one-can-stop-us-grazing-south-fulani-herdsmen/
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Re: No One Can Stop Us From Grazing In The South — Fulani Herdsmen by Nickymezor(f): 3:49pm On May 01, 2016
Such effrontery. .. Anyway its their constitutional right indeed, but it doesnt give dem d right to devastate crops n people's means of livelihoods. Hmmm, fr me WAR LOOMS o

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Re: No One Can Stop Us From Grazing In The South — Fulani Herdsmen by Nobody: 4:17pm On May 01, 2016
pls Nigerians.they are all evil..
Re: No One Can Stop Us From Grazing In The South — Fulani Herdsmen by keally: 4:21pm On May 01, 2016
kropotkin11:
The fulanis who are Nigerians just like the rest of us have a constitutional right to unrestricted movement to all parts of the country. The law enforcement agencies also have a duty to provide protection to all Nigerians everywhere
. You guys are just fooling yourselves while thinking you are fooling others, of course you know what you are, f***s. You are talking of constitutional rights but foolishly forgot that where your right stops mine starts. If by your excercising your right my life is endangered, I reserve every right to defend myself with whatever at my disposal. Self defence includes prevention of murder and genocide against my people by restriction of your movement. When curfew was imposed in Northeast why didn't you go to court enforce your fundamental human since your movement was restricted. We will restrict your movemement in the south and the heavens will not fall. Whatever you want we will give you. This is not 1967 that world powers fought for you. This time we will give them crude oil in exchange for weapons. This time your vast desert land will be the war front and will eventually be desertified the more. I advise you get into more alliance with ISIS and their likes, it will not save you from impending doom and destruction that will come on you proud f***s very soon.

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Re: No One Can Stop Us From Grazing In The South — Fulani Herdsmen by jaz(m): 4:33pm On May 01, 2016
I'm tired of the term Nigeria. The south needs to break away from the north, have and defend it's own territory as a separate nation
Re: No One Can Stop Us From Grazing In The South — Fulani Herdsmen by OneManLegion(m): 4:35pm On May 01, 2016
omonnakoda:
The men cannot be denied entry but their cows have no such rights. There is no right to move cattle on land that you do not own absolutely no such right. I might decide I want to rear snakes or crocodiles or whatever do I have the right to move my snakes on other peoples' property? There is nothing different about cows.There is no such thing as a right to graze.

Bros, do not argue on what you don't know.

Cows and alligators are not the same. Cows are domestic mammals while snakes and crocodiles are venomous, wild reptiles. I understand you are angry, but learn to analyse issues with disinterest.

I didn't say they have a right to trespass on other people's property, I said they have the right to move to any state with their cows.

Quote me again when you can produce a statutory or judicial authority that goes contrary to my assertion.
Re: No One Can Stop Us From Grazing In The South — Fulani Herdsmen by Nobody: 4:36pm On May 01, 2016
keally:
. You guys are just fooling yourselves while thinking you are fooling others, of course you know what you are, f***s. You are talking of constitutional rights but foolishly forgot that where your right stops mine starts. If by your excercising your right my life is endangered, I reserve every right to defend myself with whatever at my disposal. Self defence includes prevention of murder and genocide against my people by restriction of your movement. When curfew was imposed in Northeast why didn't you go to court enforce your fundamental human since your movement was restricted. We will restrict your movemement in the south and the heavens will not fall. Whatever you want we will give you. This is not 1967 that world powers fought for you. This time we will give them crude oil in exchange for weapons. This time your vast desert land will be the war front and will eventually be desertified the more. I advise you get into more alliance with ISIS and their likes, it will not save you from impending doom and destruction that will come on you proud f***s very soon.
Your emotional opinion is of no consequence
Re: No One Can Stop Us From Grazing In The South — Fulani Herdsmen by Nobody: 4:48pm On May 01, 2016
Babacele:
it is obvious you have never been to the North but regurgitating the falsehood you have been fed with....the North is more cosmopolitan than your present thinking and ecology.

Uncle, I traversed the North when Jigawa had Sahad stores as the only supermarket and Rafin Sayin was the only place to drink cold beer. I was there till they built an airport.... I was there from the beginning of Kano flyovers till I moved on, Azare, Bauchi, Yobe, Maiduguri up to MallamFatori....
Unless a rapid metamorphosis took place, that place was dark and evil then...
You can believe what you want.
Re: No One Can Stop Us From Grazing In The South — Fulani Herdsmen by Nobody: 4:51pm On May 01, 2016
glossy6:
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Re: No One Can Stop Us From Grazing In The South — Fulani Herdsmen by IYANGBALI: 4:57pm On May 01, 2016
Baba and hell rufai have tolded them what to say and do.


























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Re: No One Can Stop Us From Grazing In The South — Fulani Herdsmen by Mbediogu(m): 5:00pm On May 01, 2016
Firefire:
Very Good.

Please start your grazing from No. 26 Bourdillon Road, Ikoyi and spread into Alausa, take a long trip to Iragbiji in Osun State and occupy the whole of the south. It's your constitutional right to graze around the country while carrying your AK 47 riffles and destroying others means of livelihood with your cows. The CHANGE has come.

Sai Buhary. grin

Spokesman for Fulani cattle men was right when he said the constitution guarantees free movement for citizens. Does it also guarantee same for cows, or do Fulanis put themselves at par with cows? I am not even sure that there is constitutional right for migrating plundered and killers. Let's get it right.
Re: No One Can Stop Us From Grazing In The South — Fulani Herdsmen by donvicky2007: 5:08pm On May 01, 2016
kropotkin11:
The fulanis who are Nigerians just like the rest of us have a constitutional right to unrestricted movement to all parts of the country. The law enforcement agencies also have a duty to provide protection to all Nigerians everywhere

The Nigerian constitution empowers her citizens with the right of movement but doesn't empower "animals" the freedom of movement, we are not against the herdsmen but we are aganist them moving their cow and destroying farmlands.

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Re: No One Can Stop Us From Grazing In The South — Fulani Herdsmen by Babacele: 5:11pm On May 01, 2016
mykl01:


Uncle, I traversed the North when Jigawa had Sahad stores as the only supermarket. I was there till they built an airport.... I was there from the beginning of Kano flyovers till I moved on, Azare,Bauchi, Yobe, Maiduguri up to MallamFatori....
You can believe what you want.
n you can tell about the ever peaceful Sokoto, the cosmopolitan of modern Gombe, the pride of Kaduna, aloofness of Bauchi, or the colourfulness of Plateau; plurality of Nasarawa,Benue and Niger? u can tell me about the friendliness of Adamawa,Kastina, Taraba and Kebbi not to talk of war torn Bornu. .? Sahad stores may not be in Jigawa ,the new world, but the number of Aboki stores n commercial centres that deal in goods n services from which many across the Niger secure their livelihoods ain't bad after all.. isn't certain gaps meant to be filled by entrepreneurs instead of condemning the opportunity as a regional sin? All fingers are not equal but all are important , if u doubt me ,cut 1 of yours to disprove me...Lols...Let us love Nigeria more. God bless Naija.
Re: No One Can Stop Us From Grazing In The South — Fulani Herdsmen by omonnakoda: 5:11pm On May 01, 2016
OneManLegion:


Bros, do not argue on what you don't know.

Cows and alligators are not the same. Cows are domestic mammals while snakes and crocodiles are venomous, wild reptiles. I understand you are angry, but learn to analyse issues with disinterest.

I didn't say they have a right to trespass on other people's property, I said they have the right to move to any state with their cows.

Quote me again when you can produce a statutory or judicial authority that goes contrary to my assertion.
Well your assertion is what needs proving.
There is an aphorism :ei incumbit probatio qui dicit non qui negat

It is incumbent on he who asserts a thing to prove it not on he who denies to refute
It is for you to prove your assertion that there is a right to move domestic animals without restriction.Animals do not have rights.

You cannot move anything on land that does not belong to you without the owner's consent
Now you have introduced the term "domestic animal" is there a definition for that in our statutes.

Please define domestic
The word domestic animal does not appear anywhere in our constitution NOT ONCE.Leaving that to one side as it is neither here nor there.
Even if you were moving biscuits the movement can be regulated by laws. You have no right to trespass

There is no right without limits. Nigeria's constitution is not materially different from the US or elsewhere.
People do not moves cows across other people's lands in these places instead they rent land and plant grass and move their animals to market in trucks
There are rights to move goods etc but they can be regulated .Secondly the key issue here is the right to graze on lands that you DO NOT OWN and the question of HOW TO MOVE animals from location to location. i,e can you move cattle on motorways roads etc or only in vehicles.
It is possible to discuss issues and disagree without being rude ie "learn to analys before..." . If you see me in real life you will never utter those words so please stick to the issues and avoid unnecessary personal remarks. The only evidence that you have superior analytic tools resides only in your mind.
With regard to the movement of animals domestic or otherwise that is NOT a right.
Re: No One Can Stop Us From Grazing In The South — Fulani Herdsmen by Litmus: 5:48pm On May 01, 2016
Until, relevant Nigerian communities begin industrial scale cattle production, are State governors allowed to import beef for their citizens from a foreign Nation like Kenya?

Confucius say, he who goes to bed with itchy butt, should expect to wake up with funky fingers...
Re: No One Can Stop Us From Grazing In The South — Fulani Herdsmen by marlockj: 5:50pm On May 01, 2016
nairacoded:
Herdsmen from different parts of Nigeria have stated that nobody can stop them from grazing their cattle in any part of the country, especially in the south. They described such restriction as unconstitutional.

The nomads, who spoke to SUNDAY PUNCH under the auspices of the Miyetti Allah Cattle Breeders Association, dismissed the ultimatums given by different groups for the herdsmen to vacate the southern part of the country.
This is despite the fact that groups, including foremost Yoruba farmers’ pressure group and ethnic militia, Agbekoya Farmers Association of Nigeria in the South-West; the Movement for the Actualisation of the Sovereign State of Biafra (South-East); the Independent Peoples of Biafra (South-East); and some ex-Niger Delta militants in the South-South, stated their readiness to defend their territories should herdsmen attack their communities again.

Suspected Fulani herdsmen, who grazed their cattle from the northern part of the country to the southern part, had been accused of killing, raping and robbing members of their host communities.

The Enugu incident, where several lives were lost, was the most recent.

But the herdsmen, in separate interviews with our correspondents on Saturday, noted that it was wrong for people to restrict their movement as the constitution guaranteed their movement into any part of the country.

The Chairman, Miyetti Allah Cattle Breeders Association, Plateau State, Mr. Nuru Abdullahi, said nobody could deprive Fulani herdsmen of their constitutional right of free movement.

Abdullahi said, “Why would they ask them not to go to the southern part of the country? It is their constitutional right to move freely as guaranteed by the laws of the land. What the various governments and security agencies should do is to prevent attacks and counter-attacks and such things that breed violence like cattle rustling and trespassing into farmlands.

“The Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria guarantees freedom of movement for every citizen of the country; this includes the right to live, work and carry out any legitimate activity in any part of the country. If and when you breach this freedom, then, the law should deal with you. So, asking anybody not to go to any part of the country is unconstitutional.”

Also, the Chairman, MCBAN, North-West Zone, Mr. Ardo Ahmadu Suleiman, warned against criminalising all Fulani herdsmen over the attacks.

He said, “We are law abiding citizens of Nigeria. The constitution forbids anybody or group from banning anybody’s movement from one part of the country to another. We have been staying peacefully with tribes across the country for ages. Therefore, for anyone to say he wants to ban Fulani from entering their land is uncalled for.”

However, several socio-cultural and militia groups in the southern part of the country on Saturday stated their readiness to reject the invasion of their communities by Fulani herdsmen.

Agbekoya gave the Federal Government a 14-day ultimatum to stop the incessant attacks by suspected Fulani herdsmen on farmers in Yorubaland even as it vowed to retaliate any attack on its members.

The position of the group was made known by its National Publicity Secretary, Mr. Olatunji Bandele, in a telephone interview with one of our correspondents on Saturday.

According to Bandele, if the Federal Government fails to act decisively within the stipulated time, the Agbekoya will have to defend its people with whatever means at its disposal.

Bandele said the association held an emergency meeting last Thursday where it discussed the incessant onslaught by Fulani herdsmen against Yoruba farmers, especially in the Oke Ogun area of Oyo State.

He stated that if the situation was not brought under control, the group would “close down all markets in the South West; make sure that Fulani herdsmen do not enter any village in Yoruba land with their cows. And if they dare enter, they are doing it at their own risk.

“We have alerted Agbekoya South West warriors across Yorubaland to be battle ready in case the Fulani herdsmen do not heed our warning because this thing has continued for the past four to five years now.”

Bandele added, “We have other security measures that we are taking but keeping to ourselves. If the Fulani herdsmen failed to heed our warning and they dare enter Yorubaland, they will be doing so at their own risk. We are waiting for the Federal Government to take decisive action.”

The deadline, he added, started to read from last Thursday.

Asked if the group was now arming its members against the reported sophisticated fire arms of the suspected herdsmen, Bandele said, “We are not bothered with whether they carry arms or not, we will deal with the Fulani herdsmen hands down. We have done it before. The Agbekoya fought a 14-month war with the military. That was in 1968/69. We have instructed our warriors. Anywhere they kill farmers again, we will move in.”

Asked what the association would do per chance any part of Yoruba land was attacked, he said, “We will retaliate.”

The leader of MASSOB, Mr. Uchenna Madu, lamented that Igbo people had been “talking and talking” while they watched their people being killed. He stated that it was time for “action” to end killings by herdsmen.

Madu said, “The Fulani herdsmen are cowards. After the recent attacks, they ran away. If they mean business, let them wait for Ndi’gbo and we will engage them man-to-man.

“It will be demeaning to ask us if we have the capability to confront them.”

IPOB, another Igbo secessionist group which dismissed security agencies as failing to secure the people, alleged that Boko Haram had been disguising as herdsmen to attack parts of the country.

The Publicity Secretary of IPOB, Mr. Emma Powerful, stated that the group would not be at the forefront of reprisals against criminal herdsmen in the region but would encourage those under attack to defend and retaliate in self defence.

He said, “The world is watching IPOB; the plan was for us to retaliate the attacks by Fulani herdsmen but we will not do so. Rather, we will ask those who are under attack to defend themselves or get killed.

“The international rule is that you have the right to self defence if your life is under threat; security agencies know that. Face whatever or whoever is going to kill you or you die.”

Another Yoruba group, Oodua Peoples Congress, said although the Yoruba were perceived as accommodating, the group would not sit by and pretend as if all was well.

The National Coordinator of the OPC, Mr. Gani Adams, told one of our correspondents in a telephone interview that the attacks by Fulani herdsmen in the region had gone out of hand.

Adams said, “Nowadays, it is becoming too rampant in the South-West. Now, nobody is provoking the Fulani herdsmen; they are the ones taking laws into their hands, killing and maiming innocent people in their (victims’) communities.

“These Fulani herdsmen may even be Boko Haram in disguise. If government is looking at this as if they are an influential tribe or race in Nigeria and that they can’t tackle it, it may become a very serious security treat.

“We the Yoruba think that we are highly accommodating and that if a stranger who is living in our community has committed an offence, the law should take its own course. But I know for sure that the South-East will not allow their people to be maimed.”

The Chairman of MCBAN in Bauchi State, Abdullahi Abubakar, told SUNDAY PUNCH that the association was planning to hold an emergency executive meeting on Monday or Tuesday to discuss the issues affecting herdsmen.

Meanwhile, the Christian Association of Nigeria and the National Association of Nigerian Students have called on President Muhammadu Buhari to come out boldly and tackle the problem.

The Chairman of CAN in the 19 Northern States, Rev. Yakubu Pam, said the President needed to be courageous in tackling his own people and condemning their terrible activities.


http://www.punchng.com/no-one-can-stop-us-grazing-south-fulani-herdsmen/


Something shock me about this fulani Ppl...they can enter anywhere with their cows....no fear of death..
Re: No One Can Stop Us From Grazing In The South — Fulani Herdsmen by islandmoon: 6:03pm On May 01, 2016
KIRIJI:
Agbara nbe, Ogun si nbe

But do you think those things still works?
Re: No One Can Stop Us From Grazing In The South — Fulani Herdsmen by lagosrd: 6:36pm On May 01, 2016
omenka:
When you set emotions aside and think this through and through, you'd see some sense in it.

ALL LANDS in the country belongs to the government according to the Land Use Act and the constitution guarantees freedom of movement.

Nomads move around to graze their cattle, selling some where possible, while other people equally dispersed across every nook and cranny of the country sell clothes, vehicular spare parts and other such commercial activities. I don't see anyone calling for a ban on such activities.

What we should be bothered about is mitigating clashes between herdsmen and their host communities by way of ensuring they don't graze on cultivated fields.
That is the angle I think the government should be looking at working on, perhaps they could ensure noticeable barriers are created so when these herdsmen see them, they know "this is a restricted area" and trespassers would be duly punished.

There are some people inflaming the whole situation just because of the occupant of Aso Rock- taint the Fulanis and you essentially have tainted the president. What better campaign tool would there be for a party known for extreme ethnoreligious politicking, PDP, in 2019 than "Buhari is a Fulani man and his brothers are killers. Look at what they have done. Would you want to have them come back and kill the rest of you??" That is where I think this whole drama is headed.

As usual, I expect a lot of overly emotional kids to do nothing but insult me over my opinion, but hell, it wouldn't change nada.

On the other thread where they did the same, I wondered, the same people who wanted to bury Buhari alive when it was alleged he said "Nigerians are criminals", claiming (and rightly so) NOT ALL Nigerians are (Baba didn't say Nigerians are though but only listed some crimes we engage in abroad which give the country a bad image), are the people crucifying the Northern governors for saying essentially NOT ALL Fulanis are criminals!!

How the heck does one adopt two different opinions on these two (exactly similar) scenarios??

So with all the book wet you read this is your conclusion no problem now. If grazing is still practised in civilized world we will know. Shebi no one can challenge them abi we will see. This if not proper handled will only set the country on fire. Meeting farmers on their farms and killing them and raping their wives is still part of the land use act abi. See no one has monopoly of wahala. By the time they shift people to the wall even the president will not be able to beg. This country belongs to everyone and you can't come to my domain/ territory and start attacking me and you think I should start calling in Jesus name or Allah akubar. Nnmba nu (no not at all)
Re: No One Can Stop Us From Grazing In The South — Fulani Herdsmen by spiralwedge(m): 6:36pm On May 01, 2016
seguno2:


Without constraints?
Including on the public roads and private farms VIOLATING other people's rights to free movement and property protection?

Dont be silly. Read the whole comment and stop picking out abstracts.
Re: No One Can Stop Us From Grazing In The South — Fulani Herdsmen by spiralwedge(m): 6:43pm On May 01, 2016
Activa:


It's not true.

That right is not absolute. That 'anywhere' belongs to some people. That's the offence. You're just not getting it.

Is it right to use your plot of land as a sleeping place for my poultry or dogs?

Your bigotry only makes you read what you like. You are not making sense to me again, because its either you understand what crime means (in all of my comments, with examples) or you just chose to be back and forth unnecessarily.

You can continue having a monologue.
Re: No One Can Stop Us From Grazing In The South — Fulani Herdsmen by naijaking1: 6:45pm On May 01, 2016
Just like the oil in the south, the northerners also own the green grasses, the tropical rain forest, and the good-for-nothing individuals living there.
Re: No One Can Stop Us From Grazing In The South — Fulani Herdsmen by OneManLegion(m): 7:17pm On May 01, 2016
omonnakoda:
The men cannot be denied entry but their cows have no such rights. There is no right to move cattle on land that you do not own absolutely no such right. I might decide I want to rear snakes or crocodiles or whatever do I have the right to move my snakes on other peoples' property? There is nothing different about cows.There is no such thing as a right to graze.

I don't like talking too much on unambiguous issues. You were the one who stated that it's wrong for them to move their cows around and you supported your stance with the effete analogy of snakes and crocodiles(which I have dismantled).

There's a Latin legal maxim that says: nullum crimen sine lege(No crime without law) and Nulla poenis sine lege(No punishment without a law[that outlaws such]).

I maintain that there's no law that outlaws or forbids the movement of domestic animals about. The onus of proof has shifted from me to you to prove the existence of such a law if indeed there is.

Once more, don't quote me until you've brought statutory or judicial authorities to disprove my assertion.

Note that if you don't do the above, I will not respond to your quote again.
Re: No One Can Stop Us From Grazing In The South — Fulani Herdsmen by omonnakoda: 7:24pm On May 01, 2016
OneManLegion:


I don't like talking too much on unambiguous issues. You were the one who stated that it's wrong for them to move their cows around and you supported your stance with the effete analogy of snakes and crocodiles(which I have dismantled).

There's a Latin legal maxim that says: nullum crimen sine lege(No crime without law) and Nulla poenis sine lege(No punishment without a law[that outlaws such]).

I maintain that there's no law that outlaws or forbids the movement of domestic animals about. The onus of proof has shifted from me to you to prove the existence of such a law if indeed there is.

Once more, don't quote me until you've brought statutory or judicial authorities to disprove my assertion.

Note that if you don't do the above, I will not respond to your quote again.

1. Dismantled? You made an assertion about domestic animals. I asked you to define "domestic" so we can explore that. LOUD SILENCE It is only when you answer that that we can talk about the movement of NON Domestic animal
2. The issue here is about rights not crimes. I have a right to move freely but I do not have a right to enter another's compound
3. I cannot talk about crimes without a name and other particulars
4. We are discussing the principle that cattle herdsmen can move their cattle to graze in land that they do not own. Do they have such a right YES or NO


It is easy to confound and complicate things that are simple.

It all comes down to
does freedom of movement mean FREE RESOURCES. The pasture that is being grazed is it without owners. The crops on farms that are being eaten do the owners also have rights? Those are the issues here.
Your argument is very egotistical about YOU and ME. I am not interested in dismantling or assembling. Just deal with the issues raised

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